tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC July 7, 2021 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
before we go to sleep. >> we try to become completely reconciled each night before we go to sleep. a bit of marital advice to end the night. that ends tonight, the first lady of the nation of haiti, as in the united states. he arrived in miami for medical treatment. she said to be in critical condition, with multiple gunshot wounds. she apparently was shot in her home, in the middle of the night, last night, by armed attackers who shot and grievously injured her. the same armed attackers killed her husband, the president of haiti. the u.s. has told staff now at our u.s. embassy in haiti, that they cannot leave the grounds of the embassy.
they're also apparently closing the u.s. embassy there. haiti has a land border with one country, dominican republic, crossings between hideous and the dominican republic are now closed. nobody is quite sure what will happen next, chaos does seem a good bet after the assassination of the president. haiti is a country with close ties to the united states. through the huge haitian american diaspora in the united states. hi -- heavy is the poorest country in the western hemisphere. we are the largest donor in terms of the system of all kinds. haiti has been in more than its usual share of chaos, recently, including political chaos. the president who was just assassinated late last night, arguably, his term in office as president came to an end this past february, but he stayed on nevertheless, and declared that efforts to remove him were cool attempt, and he had his political opponents arrested. haiti has multiple sources of
authority in the government, a president, a prime minister, also a haitian supreme court. the head of the supreme court, just two weeks ago, died of covid. there is essentially zero covid vaccination in the country, even among the elite, people like supreme court justices. in the wake of the presidents assassination last night, it is the prime minister who has proclaimed now that he is in charge of the country, but nobody seems quite sure if that's true, or if that is proper, if it is true. there is also the question of who did it? how are multiple assassins able to get in the presidents private residents to shoot him and his wife? how are they able to get away afterwards without a trace? there is a hunt on for them now. there's some conflicting reports as to whether there may have been some arrests, but, basically it's been more than half a day since this happened. nobody seems to know conclusively what has become of
these multiple assassins, despite the fact that witnesses from that neighborhood import prince last night when the assassination happened, say this is a length of attackers, heavily armed in multiple vehicles, making no effort to hide or be quiet about what they were doing. where are they now and who are they? the language spoken in haiti are creole and french. when the prime minister today announced that the president had been assassin, he said that the assassins spoke english and spanish. presumably implying some sort of foreign attackers carried out the assassination, or mercenary forces of some kind? there is video circulating online, of somebody at the scene of the assassination last night saying, in what seems like an american southern accent, that a da operation was underway. as than a drug at fours -- enforcement ministration.
nobody thinks in the air enforcement was underway but, who was at the scene of this presidential assassination in haiti last night speaking and an american southern accent? then apparently, getting away afterwards, without being caught. president biden released a statement today calling the killing a horrific assassination, a heinous act. ing a hoit's a good couple quesn the matter from reporters today he said it is worrisome. the first lady of haiti has now come to the united states. she's in miami tonight for emergency medical care to try to save her life. she apparently was shot multiple times. the haitian president is dead at the hands of assassins who got in his home. those killers, as far as we know, have not been found. again, there are some conflicting reports about
potentially there having been arrests tonight. everything we know about these assassin so far, a spiked with about 1000 red flags, and intrigue. we will be watching this as the story come to used to unfold. spare a thought for our brothers and sisters of haiti tonight. they are staring into the abyss. haiti is a belligerent company, a few miles off our coast. so many accomplished and wonderful american he shuns in our country are worried about their family tonight. worried what will come next. keep haiti in your thoughts tonight. it's been an interesting day in the news, not to news developing today lots of serious manners. on covid, i think today may have looked like a landmark day in retrospect, for what appears to be the new face of the covid response in our country. we've been watching worrying headlines over the past couple of weeks out of southwest
missouri, particularly out of springfield missouri. missouri, broadly, has less than 40% of his population vaccinated. it's worse in the southwest part of missouri. that has had consequences. they have got a rip roaring epidemic right now of covid, thanks to low vaccination rates and to the delta variant. the vaccines apparently do work against, but it doesn't help you if you are not vaccinated. the delta variant appears to be so much more transmissible than the initial variants of covid were. for people who haven't hand the vaccine, again, and that's a place where not very many people had the vaccine. multiple hospitals started diverting new covid patients in springfield mississippi, they were full up and can handle any more. the president and ceo in springfield missouri put out this call
that was yesterday at 10:30 am. the call to arms, by this morning, at 8:21 am, that hospital ceo said that 14 respiratory therapist have contacted his hospital offering to help, thank you so much. but today at lunchtime, 12:30 pm, more heartening news. the same ceo saying we've had now quote as the ceo of cocks health in
missouri. when he's talking about is for real and bad. the kansas missouri star speaking now saying that, a month ago, that hospital, cox health, it had 35 patients, now they have 95. when from 35 to 95 patients in one month. the hospital says they are admitting on average, 18 patients every day now. they think they are going up to 27 new admissions a day within the next two weeks. they are trying to scale up their staffing and physical capacity to handle the number of hospitalizations they are coping with, because of the covid surge in southwest missouri, on top of their public offer respiratory services calling for everyone, help they of their staffing in the hospital. the usual number is about 40 traveling nurses, and now it's 150 traveling nurses right now. still they are struggling to keep up. in a different hospital in
springfield, the chief administrative officer of mercy is asking for respiratory therapist to come bolster the staff. tonight at mercy, he said their senses as 120 covid patients of their icu patients, 80% of them are on ventilators. he has been putting out these kinds of numbers daily, for the last few days, along with begging the people of southwest missouri to please get vaccinated, to try to stop the surge there. this is some of the stuff he posted in the last couple of days quote
the situation we have been watching, and there has been public calls for help out of the health care system in southwest missouri, springfield missouri, now the federal government is responding as well. they are deploying with their calling a covid -- covid surge team from the federal government to go help in that part of the country. this is personnel from cdc, department of health and soon -- human services, epidemiologists, and contract traces sent there to get their arms around this rapid spread and big surge in missouri. doctor anthony fauci, the country's top infectious disease doctor, keep seeing in public remarks these days that he thinks we are heading into a really bifurcated response as a country. part of the country with high vaccination rates, returning to something approaching normal in terms of lifestyle, restrictions, health care utilization. while on the other hand,
simultaneously, parts of the country with low vaccination rates are sliding back into potentially some of the worst of what we saw last year, particularly now that we've got the rising presence of this extra contagious variant. the delta variant, that it is ripping through unvaccinated populations now. vaccines all appeared to be effective against the delta variant, at least initial clinical trials -- sorry, studies, the effectiveness of the vaccines show that they are all effective against delta. if you are not vaccinated, the delta variant is more transmissible than what brought the country to its knees last year. and so, that's a dangerous place to be for parts of the country that have lower vaccination rates. if that means what we are going to see now, federal surge teams fanning out to unvaccinated pockets of the country, to try to stop situations like what
we've got right now in southwest missouri, then -- indeed, it's good there innovating new responses, but it looks like a new phase of covid in america. a new test for america to defend against covid. whether this comes the new american response, we may look back on this week, and even today, as a sort of landmark news development for covid, and for the biden administration's ability to adjust and adapt, react, innovate new strategies to deal with the new strategies and problems for this pandemic. the serious thing for the government, we are also seeing a test for the government simultaneously, on the end of the afghanistan war, the u.s. troop withdrawal from afghanistan, which is now nearly done. president biden said he wanted it done by mid september, it is apparently more than 90% done
now. whatever that says about the end of the war overall, and the pace of the withdrawal, and how u.s. troops got out, there is a lot to be said about all those things. in the very short, and immediate terms, that rapid withdrawal is putting all the more pressure, all the more urgency, into the task of airlifting out of there, the translators, the afghan translators, the afghan citizens who worked as translators for the u.s. troops during the work there. we have been covering this over the past few weeks but, a real scramble has started to really get it done, to stop talking about it and implement -- start implementing one needs to be done. we have seen increasing pressure from afghanistan veterans in particular, including multiple afghan serving as members of congress now. as all that pressure is ramping up, and time is getting very short in terms of need to get
this done, we have just heard tonight, from the white house, that president biden is gonna make a speech about this tomorrow. about the withdrawal of u.s. troops, and about this now deadly urgent situation to get the translators out of their immediately, before they're taliban overran the entire country and kill them all. what we will talk tonight -- we've been following this the last couple of weeks, we will talk about it from an afghan vet whose translator saved his life twice, over there. he hasn't been able to get this translator to his family over to the u.s., and now they are working to try to get all the translators out, right away, right now, as u.s. troops are almost all the way gone from afghanistan. we will talk with him about where we expect to hear from president biden tomorrow, how the plan is shaping up to actually do this, and why so many afghanistan veterans are focusing on the idea that translators and their families could be moved to a third location, conceivably that could be moved to guam, where
the governor of guam said he welcomes this idea. governorstay in guam while theis are processed. while they are effectively vetted for their entry into the united states, but they don't have to wait in afghanistan with their lives in deadly peril every passing day. it's a fascinating prospect, innovative, interesting, aggressive, and it needs to be done immediately so we're gonna talk to someone who is intimately involved in that advocacy tonight. we're also gonna talk tonight with congresswoman lauren underwood. she is, in my opinion, an incredibly charismatic, effective, interesting young member of congress. we have been talking with her periodically ever since she was first elected to congress and an upset victory when she ousted a long term republican incumbent from his seat in a very swinging swing district in a relatively conservative district in illinois. again, it's sort of like a really great purple swing district. president trump, you'll recall,
like to go to very red districts that only elected republicans that voted to elect him by large margins. president biden is proving to be the sort of opposite of that. he has shown thus far in these first months of his presidency that he likes to go to places that are right in the middle, or even places that voted for trump. he was in lauren underwood's district today, gave her a major shout out for her effectiveness as a young congresswoman. we're gonna talk with congresswoman underwood in just a moment about having the president come to her patch today and what it's like to be in a swim district from this -- during her first term of the trump administration. but, you know, there's a lot of interesting things going on today. it's a substantive day in the news. but it's one of those days in the news where there just isn't that split screen quality. that i think the beltway press looks for every day. that split screen quality between what's happening on one side of politics and the supposed mirror image in terms
of how the other side of politics is approaching the same set of problems. i mean, on the democratic side, there is all the stuff i described going on with the administration today. below the federal level, at the state level today we just got really interesting new law in new york state passed by the democratic legislature in new york state, signed by that democratic governor. it's a new law that would allow individual communities in new york, or the state attorney general in new york, to sue gunmakers. to suit gun manufacturers for the harm that is caused by the illegal use of guns. the criminal use of guns in new york state. again, this new law just signs in new york, this is something that is definitely going to go to court. but there is a federal law that is not that old. that was passed by a republican congress signed into law by a republican president. there is a federal law that is
designed to shield gun manufacturers from lawsuits. that this runs right up against an arguably, that federal law has really never been properly tested. well, here is police take new york today going on offense to say here will test it. we want to be able to treat gun manufacturers like that tobacco company got treated, or like any other company that tells people, the society otherwise has to clean up after without their help. that policy innovation will be tested in the courts. coming today out of new york, right on the heels of something from the west coast, san jose california, the biggest city in silicon valley, enacting a new regulation by which local gun owners in san jose would be required personally to get liability insurance, because gun ownership has been proven to be something inherently posing a risk to others. they want gone owners to have
to buy liability insurance. they want an annual tax for gun owners to defray local expenses in dealing with gun crimes. and again, that two will end up in court. but that is the community of san jose, california. relatively progressive community and progressive state going on offense on gun violence. trying to innovate some kind of policy solution to something that is so intractable and so intolerable in so many american communities. a problem for which republicans have blocked every proposed reform or advance of any kind at the federal level. philip itchy kickoff, who is yale scholar and an advocate on policing issues, philip and democratic congresswoman katie porter wrote this week about trying to promote nationally trying to reduce play shootings
because someone is in a mental health crisis or because they need a safety check in or somebody are behaving rationally or posing a threat to hurt themselves. when someone calls 9-1-1 for that kind of a crisis, the first responders dispatched in response would be trained mental health workers. that is who would get their first, not necessarily armed police officers as the first response, but people instead specifically trained in mental health and substance abuse issues to de-escalate. try to get some help there. you might have heard this kind of discussion for a sort of different approach to 9-1-1 calls for people who are in crisis. this is a new approach that has been piloted with considerable success in multiple places around the country right now. basically a progressive community around the country. so far the initial responses to these pilot project show that it's good for police, it's good for people in crisis not getting shot by police and
people who are trying to do this work to be able to do it at the tip of the sphere where they can do the most good and save the most lives for people in the most dangerous part of mental health crises and it's being tried out in communities around the country and initial indications are that it's working where it's being tried which is interesting, right? substance of approach. congresswoman katie porter trying to get a national grant program now for communities everywhere to try that approach if they're interested in that kind of approach. to apply for grants, to put in effect that kind of a pilot program to see if it works for them. places that are trying it are having good success. how about a national grant program that allowed communities all over the country to try it? constructive, right? innovative, at least. policy ideas, new approaches to hard problems. and, you know, trying to withdraw safely and ethically after 20 years of war in afghanistan. and dispatching new federal
multi disciplinary covid expert surge teams to unvaccinated pockets of our country that are starting to get overwhelmed with covid cases. and, frankly wrangling with these russian organized crime groups and russian state hackers that keep mounting increasingly brazen cyberattacks on u.s. targets, including, apparently the national republican party this past week. handling that as a national security matter, as a legal matter is now a new foreign confrontation with vladimir putin and the kremlin. we'll have more on that story tonight as well. but it's all this hard work of governing, right? thanking and working our way out of and around hard problems. here on earth one. and on earth to, house things today? people say you can take a split screen approach to american politics. whatever is happening, the republicans will have a
different idea, the democrats will have a different idea. that will come somewhere in the middle. that's not where our lives are right now. that is not where countries like right now. what i described is what is happening on earth one. that is with democrat of -- kinds of problems that they're trying to approach right now. that is earth one. it's too, here's the other party. here is that headline today in the philadelphia enquirer. quote, key pennsylvania republican asks counties to hand over ballots and election equipment for an arizona-style audit in pennsylvania. here we go. [laughs] eight months after the 2020 presidential election, republicans and pennsylvania are starting their own inquisition. summoning the ballots in the voting machines and the tally makers because they too, just like the republicans in arizona, just like the ones in wisconsin, just like the ones in georgia and says that their real work as elected official right now
is too fair it out in the infernal machinations of the illuminati and the deep state and the jewish bankers. and the dead communists. who tracked the world into believing that the lord emperor donald trump is no longer president when clearly he's poised to be reinstated after the fraud is revealed. i mean, in arizona, there is a headline in the arizona republic. it's about how, a couple of more weeks -- headline today in the arizona republic is how they're inquisition into the election which started in april it's gonna go on a few more weeks. they're enjoying themselves, frankly. playing with all the millions of ballots and all the election equipment that they use for their power as republicans state legislators to get. they know they said it would be over by may, but it's july now and as of today, they said they're not planning actually on it being done anytime soon. it's really working out for
them there. and pennsylvania republicans really are, as of today, starting up their own version of what's going on in arizona. they've started in the -- sorry pennsylvania legislator chair and started with a voluntary request and this republican legislator. voluntary request to three pennsylvania counties, but they're threatening that subpoenas, mandatory demands will follow if and when the counties say no. and might the counties say no? i don't know, what would you say if you are a pennsylvania county and this is the list of things that this guy just mandated you hand over? all the ballots from the presidential election, the mail ballot applications, that mail ballot envelopes and the vote counting equipment and the ballot production equipment. all computer equipment used throughout the election process. in all 45 different categories of material, they want handed over enfold to the republicans
in the arizona state legislature which will have alexei. and arizona, this mess in arizona has been one county. this inquisition in arizona and the cyber ninjas and the stuff that started in april was supposed to be done in may announced june, july, and supposed to be done last thursday but now it might be august and we're just enjoying ourselves. it's been one county, and it's been going on since april. and pennsylvania, they are starting with these demands to three counties including philadelphia. and then they say, after that initial response, they will make the same demands of more counties. so hey, maybe they'll be able to keep their is going on for years. there is no split screen. there are two different worlds. there is a party that is trying to use electoral politics and the democratic process to make policy about the problems of the country faces. there is another party that is trying to and the use of
electoral politics as an objective way of deciding who has power and how questions get resolved in our country. the two parties are engaged right now in fundamentally different politics. one is around solving problems, and the other is an conjugation of an in micro, seat right? on earth one, there is serious stuff going on right now. a presidential assassination in a nearby troubled country that we are inextricably entwined with. ending a 20-year war, trying to save our allies there while we're on our way out the door. innovating new approaches to rapidly evolving covid challenge. and evading new approaches to long-standing intractable, deadly, only in america problems like mass gun violence. on earth one it's like dude, oh look, rudy giuliani just lost his license to practice law and d.c. too. as well as new york. because he is the president's personal lawyer and he's been doing lots of lying about whether the last republican
president actually lost the election. . maybe he didn't. because maybe communists or something. which is something we're gonna beat litigating full-time now in multiple states, wherever republicans have power, as the only detailed project that republicans want to work on full-time aside from anything they can do to make it harder to vote and pick on trans kids. one of these things it's not like the other. i keep waiting for them to catch on this year. tch on this year ance and comfortable long-lasting protection. because your strength is supported by ours. depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. hearing is important to living life to the fullest. that's why inside every miracle-ear store, you'll find better cheers with your favorite fans. you'll find a better life is in store at miracle-ear,
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poorest -- rallies in the deepest pockets of the country. places where he was popular. who wouldn't want to do that? jones funder visit where people love you more than they love fresh air, they love you more than beer. [laughs] more than this villafranca cut grass. who wouldn't want to bask in? that our current president has taken a different tact. punchbowl news points out today, the president biden has been traveling to republican health districts, also to swing districts that are only narrowly out buying democrats. he headed to a historically registered biden in the district of illinois. it's a district that went for trump in 2016, incense burned
very narrowly blue since electing the democratic congress in 2018. it might be why president biden went there today. >> this woman here, hang on to her, man. hang on to her. she knows what she's doing. she knows what she's doing. >> that woman there, is democratic congresswoman lauren underwood. she and president biden today visited make henry county college, a community college in underwood's district. the president promoted his legislation to promote and child care, education, health care. and the president went out of his way several times, during this visit, to praise congresswoman underwood, who really is a big democratic success story in a previously red corner of that state. lauren underwood is a registered nurse. after trump was elected, she watched a republican congressman in her home state repeal the affordable care act. she decided that she would do
it, she would run against him. she is 32 years old. she had never run for anything before, but she ran an absolutely flawless campaign, and she won. she turfed out a four term republican incumbent congressman, and in so doing she became the first woman, and the first person of color to represent her district. she of course, immediately, became one of the republican's top targets in terms of trying to flip that district back to, right back to the republican party. her reelection race, last year in 2020, she was seen there and will -- as one of the most vulnerable people in the congress. she had a close race, but she won again. we have been checking in with congresswoman underwood periodically, ever since she was first elected. in part because, she has such promise, and she such a good campaigner. she's obviously so talented, and she is so focused on her district and suited to her district, even though it's not an easy place for democrats to win. to have the president there
today, after this hard-fought reelection battle is, it seems like sort of a benchmark moment for her, and for where the democratic party is going. i wanted to check back in. joining us now is congressman al -- underwood, thank you for having us back. and i know it's been a hard day. >> i'm so delighted to be speaking with, you thank you rachel. >> tell me about having the president come to your district today. how much of a surprise was it, and what do you make of his decision to be with you? >> it was a complete surprise. we founded on saturday he would be coming here to northern illinois, to a community called crystal lake. this is a community that the intersection of suburban and rural areas here in my congressional district, and it's a politically competitive area. and so, i was excited to be able to welcome the president, to talk about this american families plan, and his ideas to live and move our country
forward in this pandemic recovery period. >> one of the things that was so remarkable about your first term in congress, is not only that you won it, but also that once you are there, with president trump vice president, you authored four different pieces of legislation that got signed into law by president trump. you have been a remarkably affective young member of congress, and first or member of congress. now you are in your second term. i was interested today, to see president biden showed you out, specifically, for something in the american families plan. this issue of maternal health, and part of the legislation that you are spearheading. i want you to talk about that a little bit. >> i'm so excited. in 2020, in the spring of 2020, i introduced a mommy bust act with then senator kamala harris as are suddenly. this is a comprehensive legislation, nine bills at the time, now we introduced us 12 bills to end our nations maternal my toilet --
fatality complex. black women are 3 to 4 times more likely, to die of pregnancy related complications, than their white counterparts. this is a disparity that's been around my entire lifetime. for every death, we have 70 near misses. the majority of these deaths are present -- preventable. i am so pleased that we have the opportunity to reintroduce the mommy bust this year with a new cory booker. we was expanded it to the covid environment where, and we know they're significant disparities when it comes to covid diagnoses, deaths, and pregnant see related complication. president biden's who is that it works in the opportunity to save moms life. he has carved out three billion dollars in the american families plan, to address maternal health, of which the mommy bus is being included.
we are so excited to be able to partner with the president of the united states to do this important work. >> let me ask you, also, you've been so focused on health care. that legislation you are talking about specifically, i love that it is called the mom bus. also, i want to ask about covid and vaccine uptake and visited -- vaccine hesitancy. it's hesitancy in you're district for vaccines. i wonder if you feel with your health care background, if you've been able to approach that in an innovative way, or a way that might give some license and helped other parts of the country struggling with that? >> one thing we have seen, is the power of local leaders stepping up, validating, and normalizing this idea of vaccination. one thing we know is a core value in our community here in l.a. -- illinois, is respecting down, and respecting the science.
we have a community filled with people who aren't educated, they educate their kids, and vaccinate them they recognize vaccinations the key to moving past the pandemic. we have very variation in vaccine rate. biden, lunch over 50% of eligible adults are vaccinated, fully vaccinated. i get a daily report on our covid via -- and vaccine numbers, tracking this in my office every day since the pandemic began. we have seen some variations, but we've largely seen uptake. there are numbers where there are areas of concern. a rural communities, and areas where there are people of color. they remain areas of concern that are more remote so we have more work to do as a country to make sure we are talking to
people, having these conversations door to door. that's when i heard in the president's new plan. he is interested in putting resources to those outreach efforts, to embrace these communities that have been a little more reluctant, and make sure they have the opportunity to get their questions answered and get vaccinated. >> congresswoman lauren underwood of illinois, such a pleasure to have you back on the show, congresswoman. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you very much. >> she is just -- i don't know why congressman on girl -- congresswoman under woman gets more press. she's a superstar, practical, educated, representing the swing district. she is perfectly tuned and time to the needs of her district. running a great office, doing fairly effective work at home and in washington. getting bills signed as a freshman, she is a star. absolute star. we will be right back. stay with us. stay with us
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rights first. they just came out with this today. watch. >> i am a veteran. >> i'm a veteran. >> i served in afghanistan. >> i served in afghanistan. >> i'm alive today because of my translator. >> my translator chose -- >> chose to fight for our country. >> my translator is as much of a veteran as i am. >> as. i.m. >> as i am. >> thousands of our wartime -- >> remain left behind. >> our nation made a promise. >> to ensure that no one is left behind. >> president biden, keep our promise, evacuate our afghan allies. one of the vets featured in that ad is matt zeller, when he served in afghanistan alongside this afghan translators who is standing with him. two weeks after he arrived in afghanistan, then captain zeller was caught in a taliban firefight. he thought he was gonna die. he said it was his translator
who saved his life. when he left afghanistan, matt zeller personally lobbied to bring his translator and his family -- his translator is now a naturalized citizen. mr. zeller has since expanded his advocacy work to all the translators that are still there as u.s. troops pull out of afghanistan rapidly now. president biden is expected tomorrow to address this now very pressing crisis. joining us now is matt zeller, he's actually major zeller now. with his interpreter. he cofounded the group no one left behind which advocates for bringing afghan interpreters to the u.s.. major zeller, thank you so much for being here. i appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me, ma'am. >> what are you hoping to hear from president biden tomorrow, and do you have any expectations of what you will hear? >> i hope he says the words, we're gonna get them to guam. guam is the best place to bring these people. the island stands ready to
receive them and has a historical precedent having been used previously in other evacuations at the end of the vietnam war, in 1996 we actually moves a condition for a couple of months. we want to say get them to guam. but we don't want them to say is we're gonna move them to some third country that we have to negotiate a refugee camp that might end up being there in perpetuity. we want them on u.s. soil where they belong in safety so that we can process their cases without having to worry about the taliban death squads that are hunting them right now. in fact, when i get off this interview i'm gonna be interviewing a guy for our podcast called wartime allies who had a grenade in his house last week. they're hunting these people down one by one systematically and it's for purpose. they're trying to convince future partners that american friendship is a death sentence.
and so what if all of this is that in addition to having a moral obligation to saving these peoples lives because we made a promise that if they serve with us, we take care of them, we're gonna have to stand to them and suffer a higher casualty rates in future wars if we don't take care of these people now, because nobody is ever going to believe us again. and our nations veterans are gonna suffer a profound moral injury to if we don't keep this promise. >> help me understand the fight here. because this is so urgent and so timely. this is not some perspective thing that we're spelling out as some sort of hypothetical or some side of war game. this is right now, as you're saying, people are being hunted down right now as u.s. troops withdraw. as far as i can tell from here, veterans serving in congress, people who served in afghanistan and are now veterans who are members of congress think that guam is a good idea. veterans advocacy groups think that one is a good idea. there's even been reporting that the white house thinks that guam is a good idea. the governor of guam and the
people of guam appear to be in favor of this and as you say, there's historical precedent for them playing this kind of role. given that i don't see anybody will end up on the other side of the argument, what is the holdup here? >> we are told that it's the department of homeland security. we're told it's career officials who want to do that whole, oh, we can't bring them here they might be bad people. this program has existed for over 15 years and in that time not a single nefarious individual has ever snuck through. these people had to be vetted just even work with us overseas, so they've already gone through some extensive vetting just to be able to serve alongside u.s. forces and the reality is that the taliban does not care about our standard of vetting and who gives and who doesn't. if you work a day with, us they're going to kill you. and it should be a national security imperative to now save these peoples lives. you know, rachel, you point out that we built on a bipartisan
coalition that could prevent a human rights disaster in the making. we call this and never again moment in the making. this is an administration that champions itself as a defender of human rights. well, here it is. here is one of the moments that were all raised on as children. if we fail to do this, mass murder is going to take place. and we have all of the means to prevent it. we just now need the courage and conviction to do the right thing. >> matt zeller, the cofounder of no one left behind, veteran of the war in afghanistan. major zeller thank, you for being here i have a feeling we're gonna hear significant news from the white house tomorrow. i'm not saying i've heard anything, i just have a feeling that they wouldn't announce that the president was gonna make remarks on this unless he had something significant to say. we'd love to be back in touch with you and have you on the show to assess as this move hopefully in a rapid way. >> i will come back anytime you have me, rachel. thank you so much. >> all right, we'll be right back stay with us. with us.
something to reporters as he was walking out of the white house to get on board marine one and it was hard to hear because the helicopter work, but we have it from the official white house transcript. reporter one, quote, mister president these cyberattacks keep happening. at what point does the united states respond and take action? then, reported to, quote, what's your message to putin on cyber? and a message for your briefing on cyber from your officials? president biden responds to that reporters quote, i will deliver it to him. meaning that's his message to putin. we don't remotely know wet president biden's message to putin is on cyberattacks originating out of russia but that's president biden himself this morning saying we he has a message to putin on that and that he will deliver it to putin himself. that was about an hour after president biden had a situation meeting today with national security officials on these ongoing cyberattacks out of russia, including the one on friday it hit somewhere between
800 and 1500 businesses around the world on their widest reaching ransomware attacks ever. that is being attributed to a group called our evil, that operates out of russia. the republican party also looks like it was hit this weekend and originating from the russian intelligence services. will now, just within the past hour, breaking news from the new york times that there's been yet another russia-based cyber attack on american targets today. reporting from the new york times says on wednesday, meeting today, revil had a new target. a florida defense contractor that sells space and weapons launch technology, the navy, the air force, and nasa. the biden administration's line on russia has been that they want things to be predictable and stable between us and russia. right now, the cyber stuff, maybe it's for predictable but it's not stable. this seems to be escalating
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