tv The Beat With Ari Melber MSNBC July 7, 2021 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT
>> thank you so much, welcome to "the beat," we have new details emerging from the january 6th insurrection, the latest and joe biden's mocked mitch mcconnell for opposing help for his own constituents. but first, donald trump announcing a class action lawsuit against facebook, google or twitter or the color blue, essentially quoing "he's wrongly censored." does trump really want discovery? it all starts with the strange scene today, trump speaks from a podium he created from etsy to look candidly like the presidential podium.
what did you do to stop the insurrection as some people call it and why were you not able to stop it? >> that whole event, unfortunate event went through congress and a record was issued and my name was not even mentioned. >> an unfortunate event like apparently trump thinks it was the insurrection when in fact it was him and the "time" does mention trump's name, more than 40 times. this company and cfo indicted on 15 counts. joining me now is melissa murray and our correspondent joan walsh. professor murray, i am going to start with you. this is important to do this reset every single day. when i talk to people who don't
do this for a living they're like how much trouble is donald trump in? so can you lay out to the audience again with investigations into the cfo, with information about them keeping two sets of books. how much trouble will donald trump be in if he's anyone other than donald trump? >> a damming picture. this is a person that managed todd distance himself from all manner of criminal activities that's boiling around him. will this go so far to actually attach to donald trump? that remains to be seen. surely he's involved in this whether or not there can be evidence that links him into a conclusive way that prosecutors can then use all the elements of their case but it is not great but this is a guy who's always been slippery.
when you say he's slippery, in the past, he suggested he's paying people off and bought people off and basically bragged about all sorts of criminal activities. donald trump does not have that much influence anymore. is this a matter of when because it is not like rudy giuliani can't practice law and can't protect him anymore. is this inevitability or there are still holes in these cases that can allow trump or members of his family to get free. >> it is hard to say because we don't know what all the evidence is or what the charges will be. again, i think if there is something connecting him to this in a more explicit way, we are going to learn it the next couple of weeks but without actually knowing what the case against him will be. that explains why we have bizarre class action lawsuits today. it seems not only intended to
get him back in front of the camera but also drum up some funds for all different initiatives he has going on at this point. >> so joan, i was unhappy this morning, i decided i was going to get breakfast. as disrupt says he's going to sue facebook and twitter and google and tumblr and friendster. is this the fact that he's starving for attention. you don't have to be a lawyer or play one on tv to think that he hates the fact that every single day he's not able to be on social media platforms. that's what this suit is about. >> it is entirely what it is about. this lawsuit is as dead as the trump foundation and trump university and ivanka's clothing line. i won't milk this. i can go on and on. fst first and foremost in attempt to get back in front of
the camera which succeeded. the fund raising appeals went out from him and don jr. and almost immediately. i hope they're not doing what they did during the campaign which was sign people up automatically monthly, repeat donations. these people are internally ready to fall for him. that's all it is about. we would love to see it going forward because we enjoy seeing him depdepose and ask him quests about january 6th. it would be a site to be hol. >> we know that trump is reaching rock bottom when he's doing all these cameos like
donald trump jr. >> there is audio of how small the trump's circle has become. i want to play this audio and get your thoughts on the other side. >> what would you like to say to her? >> my wife and i returned a month or so ago, i know she saw us, she put a newspaper in front of her face in order to make sure we didn't catch her. i know she did. i don't care about this point, right now it is only about the truth and only getting the truth out. >> this news season of succession is going to be great. you have ivanka trump is now avoiding eye contact with michael cohen. this is not high school drama. it suggests to me that the number of people who they think can flex on influence has diminished immensely just a couple of months ago. michael cohen had been outside
the circle quite a while. there is reports that she's not especially close to her father lately and that she's using her help in the media to send forth this notion that she's estranged and embarrassed by so much he's done. we have been through that before. we don't know what's going on with these investigations. i don't want to over-speculate or promise anything. if her dad is in trouble, she's in trouble. the boys are in trouble. it can't be comfortable. the family dynamic is succession-like. i am dying for next season and this is going of to do for a while. melissa, i have a list right here and all the people. we have don and ivanka and weisselberg and donald trump jr.
and eric trump, all these people. >> if you look at this list right now, which of these people, we already know weisselberg, which of these people do you think may be the most concerned? >> maybe ivanka or don jr. give me reasons to be concerned or if they did more than sign a couple of charity checks. >> all of this depends on what comes out of the investigation. it could be the case that the person that's handling most of this going back and forth between the two sets of books are allen weisselberg. it is set up that way so only one person is on the hook and that person is related to donald trump in any way. picking between these three children and this is just sort of whackamo at this point. this entire family is bounce up
on the cult of personality the trump organization and their father. if the trump organization is in trouble and allen weisselberg is in trouble, all of these individuals are going to be worried. >> going forward, the law is not always clear as to whether or not a president can block people or public officials can block people one way or another. is there any case here? quite frankly, twitter and facebook and a lot of social media platforms seem to be consistent of who they ban and how could trump have a case here? hey look, i was in trouble. that was donald trump the president and now donald trump as a private citizen, i should be able to say what i want. does he have a case here and would it matter if he's going against facebook or google or twitter or how long his case is?
it is based on the banning from facebook on january 7th, 2021. facebook violated the first amendment. collaboration between facebook and the government does not suffice to make facebook a public entity. the first amendment does not apply. the second claim is the decency act, section 230 immunizes platforms from lawsuits over contact moderation should be struck down. it is unconstitutional. that's a hard issue for follow and there is a lot of criticisms of section 230 but there is also praise for it for what the internet have been able to allow
to flourish. there is pretty much a free reign on the internet and that's what made the internet so successful. again, i don't think there is a lot here. this is as joan says an opportunity for former president trump to fundraise of his own sense of being briefed or believered by the public. >> i want to close this on joan. when i think how trump dominated the media by using twitter for so long. it is interesting to me that his grip disappeared without his platform. trump only been off twitter for six months. do you think republicans will push some legislative way to force social media outlets to put him back on or do you think
it is a done deal because mitch and the rest able to get what they wanted from trump when he's able to tweet. >> i would not put anything past mccarthy and mcconnell in terms of defending trump. he did take a new step in terms of defending the january 6th lawlessness insurrection in terms of saying the people who have been arrested should be released and calling asheli babbitt a martyr, we believe it is a police who shot her after warnings. that's dangerous. the lawsuit itself is a joke. this news the territory scares me a little to be honest. >> the defense of terrorist from the former president of the
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florida, the search and rescue phase is now over. the number of confirmed dead is now 54. 86 are still unaccounted for. one official is saying there is zero chance of survival at this point. two weeks after the building collapsed. search and rescue had to halt their effort as elsa is affecting the area. the fbi releasing 11 new videos highlighting and freeze framing for individual suspects revealing unseen harrowing footage of that harrowing day. you can see a man holding a metal pole jabbing it towards the officer. the suspect is on the left and the fbi is trying to find the suspect. this shows a capitol hill
officer being stomped and beaten by the horde of trump supporters. this shows two men lobbying a massive wooden pole at officers. today the former president complains about how the terrorists were being treated. >> people being treated unbelievably unfairly. when you look at people in prison and nothing happens to antifa, the person that shot asheli babbitt, boom, right on the head, there is no call for that. >> the fbi infiltrated a group that called themselves a bible study group. they discuss firearms training and a succession. a member asked "how do we feel about an intel run around the
capitol tonight." good opportunity to expose weaknesses. the militia leader responding "poke and pride." mccarthy does not want a full investigation of the riot that threatens his own life. candidates are running on trump's big election lie seeking to out trump one another to win the gop base. where is this party embracing the big lie going and how can democrats fight back with the facts? we have the perfect guest, david korn, after our shortest break just 60 seconds. r shortest break just 60 seconds.
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going to put on jim jordan and elise stefanik. why is nancy pelosi allowing any republicans on this committee? and certainly any republicans who voted against the insurrection investigation. explain this to me. >> well, it is even worse than that. you look at the first impeachment hearing that jim jordan played a big role in. he and the others, elise stefanik, too, all they did was trying to divert and deflect. it is not about ukraine. it is not about -- everything about the fact that is donald trump tried to pressure ukrainian president to launch an investigation on biden. they want to make it into a
circus. they don't want to get to the truth. they know it does not take two to turn something into what type of a show. it takes one group of people to do that. and that's all they need to do. they need to delegitimatize and discredit the investigation. they don't have to prove that donald trump did the right thing. they have to make it seem like this is partisan bickering. partisan fighting breaks out at committee hearing today. jim jordan is particularly good at that. i don't know what choice speaker pelosi has in terms of not letting republicans on the committee at all, but i think
they're going to be tight rules and have their -- and just let them rant and raid for a couple of minutes at every hearing and say, are you finish now? can we get back to reality? it is going to be very ugly. >> right. >> here is the thing. i found that amazing that the number of conspiracies that jim jordan always talk about it in public but could not find it. here is the problem that i see, it is another sign of weakness on the part of democratic party leadership. why can't pelosi simply say look, we are going to have this committee and we'll allow republicans in the committee, voting to investigate the investigation. why not say to mccarthy right now that that's the pool of people we'll have to pick from. all we are going to hear about is jim jordan screaming and one
crazy thing and one strange guest that the special guest star, the one person that the republicans give the rose to is going to bring down the entire event. why do you think they're not flexing the power they actually have on this committee. >> i think in some degree, they still believe fairness good or bad. you and i can grimace about this, they may be in the minority two years from now. there are rules about establishing committees and the leaders of the party gets to pick whether you are a minority leader or speaker of the house. i think they don't want to totally blow it up. i understand where it is coming from. it is actually, you take it down to a level deeper and the question becomes how do you work with a party that wants to subvert democracy, that believes
in authoritarian and delegitimatize elections chlts we talk about bipartisanship and unity. how can you play nice as someone who wants to tear down your house. you can't have a hearing and fire safety with an arsonist who's running around with carosene and a big lighter. he talks about bringing the country together and working together in infrastructure. if there is a party that's committed to implementing authoritarian and undermining our democracy. a lot of americans don want to believe it and some believe the people who's telling the story is our enemies and they want to
destroy america. democrats say republicans want to do this and republicans say democrats want to do that. at some point and when biden gets a few things done, this may have to be the story that's told going into the next election and certainly 2024. >> i don't see how and i love your metaphor, i don't see how you can investigate a fire when half of the other seem is -- >> later on in the show, details on the shocking assassination of haiti's president rocked the nation. biden is traveling to trump country today, retouting his job's agenda. >> bishop william barber is here to discuss what his new plans are on how to help america. w pl are on how to help america
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today. >> mitch mcconnell loves our program. you know what mcconnell says? you are going to get a lot more money. >> he's bragging about it with kentucky. >> he's a great thing for kentucky. that's amazing. >> the total amount that'll come on our state. >> check out mitch mcconnell, you have seen it on tv. >> mcconnell add miting he tried to block money from his own people. tomorrow he'll meet privately with civil rights group on voting rights. it comes as republicans push new efforts to restrict voting. texas governor gregg abbott told
republicans to revisit a proposal in a special session. bishop william barber is joining me now. keech chair of the poor people campaign. his organization is launching a new series of events. they're aimed at protecting vote rights. thank you so much for being with us today. i think that congressman jay powell represents the energy i got when it comes to putting pressure on this administration. i want to play this script and i want to get your thoughts. >> this is urgent. but in full view of the american people who are watching their rights to be stripped away. >> i take it that you don't think he's done enough publicly? >> he has a tremendous amount when he came in front of him. yes, i this hi he needs to do
more on this issue. >> bishop, i want to hear about voting rights every single day. if i were in the administration, i would find some long, municipal line, i had joe biden standing there for six or seven hours, just to demonstrate how serious it is. at the state level to push back some of these horrific voting restrictions that it had been passed. >> first of all, i think that -- it is not trump's country. it is our country. he needs to disaggregate of the things he wants to pass, how is it going to help everybody cht secondly, we have to not limited to voting rights. that's why we are talking about voting rights and living wages. the administration, the senate and the state level, if we can't
keep saying, jason, that the democracy is imperial and watch voting rights and living wage and infrastructure undermine without responding with non violent direct and moral action, as much including all people. we can't let them make this a binary argument of black and white. because i undermines the policy that's going to lift us all up. this is a moment, it is not just about -- it is about democracy verses autocratocy. >> so i want to add. going to play another clip here.
when all these people who affected by the voting rights restrictions, nicole hanna jones talking about sort of where and what the larger issue is behind these voting rights restrictions. i want your thoughts on the other side. >> the same thing is critical race theory. they're trying to bending the teaching of the true racist in this country. there are other place -- idea changed action. it is very dangerous and we have seen this before. >> so, the fear that i have is not only she's exactly right but not enough people are going to listen, your thoughts? >> she's exactly right. the same places are introduced are the poorest state, they have the highest number.
they're the same state that a block ing leaving and healthcare. this is not a jim crow attack on black folks. this is an attack on the democracy. fe have to say that and to democrats, look t if mitch mcconnell can take 51 votes and put supreme court on the bench and everyone who did not join them, they're going to be the one to blame. we are launching on july 12th. that we are having experiences of national moments. we are calling for four days. stop the filibuster so this democracy can work. >> number 20, pass the era and pass living wages.
>> august 6th, we are going to engain next monday that women are going to gather and engage in moral dry recollect action. the next monday we'll be in state of democrats and republicans, we'll encourage our as a whole lies and push our al adversaries. we'll have a mass of clergies and low-wage workers, coming together. we must change this narrative and shift the discussion in this moment. we can't do it. we can't even do it with just one rally. >> this is a serious infection point in this democracy. we god to connect the dots, get the same people that suppress the vote and wages and healthcare and suppressing
immigrants rights. we ought to be smart enough to come together and declare this is a constitutional moment. the real question is which side are you home? >> that's the question? which side are you on sinema and mcconnell. we can't wait on this because democracy is at steak at this moment. >> when it comes to racism and bigotry that we have seen from the republican party for years and especially this year, cuddling white nationalistsnati. you are a clergy and business,it is your job to do. what would it take for someone
to mcconnell, to have him realize,blocking to his own people is knotts a goods thing. >> too many republicans believe having their own konts wents suffer is fine. >> well, let's be real. long before trump, republican party decided they're going to make -- that was decided long time ago. it is just coming in full at this moment. connect them with black folks in louisville. we must come together. what we got to do is push the democrats, the use of power they have. i would love to convince mitch
mcconnell. there is a script that says only god can change the lem pard spot. we not 51 -- sinema, you need to decide, which side are you on? it is time to use those 51 votes to do what's right for this democracy. the way we push that to happen is that we got to show and even the democrats, democrats and republicans want minimum wages and that's what we got to put in the street. if we let this be a black and whitish, we lose on that. if we make it a moral issue, a constitutional issue, and it will be changed being willing to do something about this. and put our bodies on the line in a non-violent way. but, we do need our reparation.
we'll ask people to jump on. we should have done it when matthew turned back to $15. >> right. >> in addition to hundreds of thousand of people we are trying to get manchin to understand. >> thank you so much for taking me to church. haiti president is assassinated in his own home. the latest on the investigation. >> the hero who films george floyd's murder. d's murder we'll be discussing that next. we'll be discussing that next. o. one that's been tamed and one that's forever wild. but freedom means you don't have to choose just one adventure.
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the teen who tall in george floyd's murder, killed. the officer pursuing the car jacked vehicle. his uncle, frazier was in the other car, completely unrelated to this chase but he was killed. >> the investigation was long and this is is chopped up to gross negligence on the part of police. is that the same as -- >> the one year anniversary of floyd's killing, darnell a says he's still traumatize. >> it is a little easier now.
a part of my child hoods taken away from me. she said it made her realize how dames point bridge yous to be black america. >> when i look at george floyd, i look at my dad, my mother, my cousins and uncles, because they are all black. i lie at that and how that could have been one of them. >> joining me now is the perfect perfect to talk about brittany cunningham. brittany, i want to start with this, is case team forgot. i want to play that video that was codes dated to her behaviorally last year to make america aware of police vai
lens. >> thank you, darnell la. >> thank you darnella. >> thank you, darnella. >> all those thank yous won't have her sleeping any better at night. all of that thank yous don't make up for her uncle being killed. what's the impact of this kind of internal violence on black people? what is this going to do? >> first to this little girl and the community at large after already going through what we did with george floyd ochlt. >> jason, thank you, the thank you, thank you for asking the question that we far too often don't actually hear ask. the trauma and the repeated videos. the deaths, the violence. the in actment over and over again on violence against black
bodies does something to us. it lays down next to us when we go to sleep at night and it wakes up with us in the morning. if you think of the bravery that darnell frazier showed. making sure the minneapolis police and the entire country can no longer keep telling the same supreacist lies. there is a human being and a young woman who had pay for that dearly. she already paid for that with her childhood. she paid for that with her own sense of peace and safety and black people across this world are paying that cost over and over again. >> here is darnell, all right paying that cost every single day and now she wants again has to make the ultimate sacrifice. her family has now lost another
loved ones to the same item that had already placed darnella and our community in great danger and disprepared. >> i thank you for asking that question because we need to start the conversation right there. brittany, i want to brin this in the back, this is really key. this is really key. pepper sprayed. the police seem t prey on the same black people over and over again. i always made that abundantly clear. i believe in abolishing police, starting from the beginning. we done that before. in this moment, what should the country be learning from the fact that the young woman who already witnessed violence that she had no part of, just lost
her uncle to the wanton violence and irresponsibility of the police. what's the lesson the nation needs to learn right now? >> the system is working precisely as it was designed. that to revisit the same black families, black people and black communities is not happenstance. it's not an accident. this isot intentional. this is ais choice. there are multiple systems that continue to perpetuate inequities. we look at child and family services and people who are trying to do honest work but work ends up impacting black families. poisonous water. it's our families who are going through the revoling doors of those systems. this is by intention.
the system that continues to visit andem revisit black peopl with intention is working precisely and exactly as it was designed. >> thank you so much. unfortunately, we will have this conversation again. ahead, the assassination of haiti's president and the hunt for answers. we'll be back. s esprident and tt for answers. we'll be back. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google, turn up the heat. ♪ ♪ ♪ (piano playing) here we go. ♪♪ [john legend's i can see clearly now] ♪♪
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the president of haiti was assassinated overnight. the prime minister says a heavily armed group of unidentified assailants stormed the presidential palace. the president's wife was also shot. her condition is not publicly known. he had been the target of protests in recent months. now haiti face a political void atop an economic crisis and surging gang violence. supporters asked president biden about the assassination today. >> what's your reaction to the
haitian president being assassinated? >> we need a lot more information. it's very worrisome. >> thank you for taking this time. we're getting reports that the people who attacked and assassinated the leader came in claiming they were american dea agents. the united states has denied this. where would is this coming from and why would that cover be used for an assassination? >> one thing everybody here in haiti will fell you is that the u.s. is very powerful. u.s. institutions are very powerful in this country. the dea used an operation in
haiti. many they come to you and look like dea agents, everybody in haiti would listen to this. >> what was the president's status in the country? i know you have an election coming this fall. obviously there were protests against him. was he vastly unpopular? what's the initial thought about where an attack like this on a president, and this is the most -- we don't have assassinations of world leaders very often. what do you think might have been the cause of this now? what's the speculation on the ground? >> he's assassinated while in
office. three were assassinated after they left office. it's not common practice that we kill our presidents. he was a very unpopular president. large protests started and it's implicated -- i'm sorry. i'm sorry hearing a noise. were implicated in cases in the country. his companies were named in civil reports, including from senate reports and other institutions reporting about corruption. he was criticized as well by the international community because he was trying to change the constitution of the country by our referendum which is something the 1987 constitution. it was an illegal.
>> hold on. we're running up on time. thank you smouch. we will be coming back. any attack on any president anywhere in this hemisphere is a concern. we'll follow this story again. thank you very much for your time. that does it for me. the reid out is up next. >> thank you very much. we'll be following up on that story. appreciate the color coordination. i love the way we match. have a great rest of your evening. thank you very much. we have a big hour ahead including details about donald trump's perverse view. he told his staff, hitler did a good thing. a republican congressman admits he wants nothing but chaos for next 18