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if it's wednesday president biden holds a meeting in the situation room after another alleged russian hacking becomes public. the second in just days. three weeks after biden warned putin to shut it down. breaking news in haiti where the nation's president was assassinated overnight. and the apparent winner in new york city's democratic may oral primary is a moderate former police captain that campaigned on fighting crime. what adams' victory does and doesn't say about the democratic party's future. welcome to "meet the press daily." president biden is under increasing pressure to respond to the threat by russia as cyber
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criminals and russian intelligence continue to target american companies and organizations. president biden convened a meeting in the situation room to discuss his administration's response to the attacks. today's meeting comes after revelations of that massive ransomware attack. and a newly revealed attempted attack on the republican national committee. when pressed this was biden's response. >> what's your message on cyber? any message on cyber? >> what point does the united states respond? >> biden seemed to down play the severity of the kaseya attack yesterday. >> on the latest ransomware attack can you tell us if that rises to the level of u.s. retaliation? >> i can tell you a couple things. i received an up date from the
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national security team this morning. it appears to have caused minimal damage to u.s. businesses but still gathering information. i will have more to say about this in the next several days. we are getting more detailed information. >> today sit room meeting comes three weeks after meeting with vladimir putin saying that the u.s. would respond to continued cyber attacks from russia. i'm joined my shannon pettypiece who asked president biden about the attacks this morning and kirsten todd and former ambassador to russia michael mcfall. shannon, president biden seemed to punt when asked about responding to russia. it is the departure from how he responded running for president. >> reporter: clearly choosing there not to telegraph through the media what the message is, how he feels about this
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situation. that's not completely surprising having talked the people close to this administration. they're thinking is that when it comes to dealing with putin the best strategy is to save the tough talks and the tough conversations for private and to take a more measured approach publicly. that's the sense in general about what's going to be most effective. the administration is careful not to assign responsibility to the russian government here saying they're still collecting information. if this is russian actors that said that the expectation from the geneva summit is russia will respond and if russia doesn't the u.s. has the right to respond on the own in kind so they're not taking any response off the table. we are hearing the administration as you noted measure back and not make at least any efforts publicly to call out putin and russia on
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this particular attack. >> leaves you to wonder when they might use that prerogative. what options does the u.s. really have to prevent with this? can the u.s. act unilaterally or do you need an international agreement to aggress cyber security? >> i think when we look at how to respond looking at the type of actors globally the united states absolutely has to work in collaboration with its like minded economic partners, allies which it is doing. there's an effort working with 20 other countries to evaluate consequences and how to deter action. but for the united states specifically in how to prevent this is about education and training. this is about making sure that small businesses around the world not just in the united states are doing the basics. if i'm a small business i make
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sure to use multity factor authentication. the lines are straightforward but not doing them enough in this nation and globally. >> ambassador, i feel like you will hear the criticism from the right that president biden wasn't forceful enough with vladimir putin when they met. what's your understanding of that conversation? was he forceful enough? does he need to say more? publicly or loudly something to vladimir putin? >> my understanding is he was forceful in the meeting. he said don't do this. he designated critical infrastructure. so what? this is vladimir putin. of course he'll test us. of course he is going to listen to that and not respond until there is a greater response from our side. and i think now is the moment. i think the president rightly
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drew red lines. said you have to not do this. putin said make my day. see if you can stop me. now i think that the administration has to respond more forcefully. at a minimum give us more information about who the people are. second indict them. if they're criminals indict them. mueller did that. that puts them on an interpol list. once indicted criminals that puts the pressure on the russian government to treat them as criminals. so far vladimir putin hasn't said a single word about who these people are and if they are criminals it is incumbent upon the russian government to treat them that way. >> would something like an indictment be enough to get vladimir putin's attention or does the response need to be more forceful even than that? >> of course there's an escalatory ladder. you start with that. it gets people's attention.
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indicting the dozen gru officials that demonstrated the incredible cyber capability and every now and then you need to expose that to allow the adversaries to know what capabilities we have epa then escalations are sanctions and attacking those that are attacking us. >> i remember the indictments was information of who used with keystrokes and showed the capability. on the previous ransomware attacks you have situations where jbs, colonial paid ransoms to unlock the systems. does that set a bad precedent? do continued payments continue more of these kinds of attacks? >> when we talk about paying ransom by an infrastructure company we ask the wrong question. those companies should not have been in that position. colonial pipeline we know wasn't using multifactor
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authentication. they didn't update with the patch by microsoft. whether you look at small businesses that have fewer resources we can't be in the business of telling infrastructure companies no matter how small or big they are right now whether or not to pay ransom. they have to stay viable but we have to get to a place where there's the destination. a $70 million put on this, $45,000 is what revil is corporations to free up. we don't want to get into a barter or a financial transaction. there needs to be greater effort right now and i want to make the point of greater efforts. if we have a country providing sanctuary to criminal actors we have to do something about this? if it was a terrorist organization we would tell them to extradite them to be able to prosecute them.
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we have coconvert what we know into the digital world and haven't done that globally and absolutely is something that has to be urgent particularly looking at the prevalence of these attacks across all countries. >> so you heard a menu of options about ways that the administration could take action here if they wanted to do so to escalate this. what do you know about what's on their menu of options going forward? >> reporter: we're not hearing at the white house any of those items. not publicly, not with reporters. could be happening behind the scenes. what they are talking about publicly is meetings and conversations with the russians. had a number of high level meetings with the russians around cyber. so publicly they are saying they're going to keep conversations going with russia. they aren't taking options off.
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they could retaliate but as to the specifics that is something that the white house is certainly keeping private. >> michael, the conversations, as someone that dealt with putin and his people, if the putin regime is having conversations with the american regime are those conversations just meant to keep talking so it looks like something is being done or are those actual good faith efforts based on your experience? >> i think they're good faith efforts on the part of the biden administration. >> sure. but part on the russians? >> no, of course not. let me be more precise. of course we should talk to the russians about what we know and tell them to stop but it takes -- you have to back up that diplomacy with deterrence. you can't presume that vladimir putin is going to change his ways because you talk to them. i think it's a first step.
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right for president biden to meet with president putin to lay out what we want to cooperate on and where we disagree as he did in geneva and now the hard part of deterrence. credible deterrence. there are multiple areas where mr. putin is testing us, testing the fortitude and i think it takes some power to make those diplomatic conversations more credible. >> is the russian economy as vulnerable to this kind of cyber interference as is ours? i think about the idea of the responses to be proportional. are they as dependent, as vulnerable as we are? do they get kind of the stacks of this game that's being played here? >> our economy's bigger and many more targets and not doing the basic things. part of it has to be education and just that people are not using multiple authentication
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for the email. saying this to whoever is listening. that's crazy. here we can't get on the email system without doing that. part is also our resilience. but we do also don't want to be like them and get in a tit for tat acting like cyber criminals. it's legitimate to go after target evenings and organizations. i don't think it's right to have the russian economy and russian consumers be hit because these criminals hit us. to me we would not want to engage in that. >> kirsten, i think talking about hacking people think of a futuristic person in a dark room. realistically how much of this is prevented by businesses and individuals using basic internet
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hygiene? >> more than we think. that's why the biden administration has focused new efforts on education and training and really our greatest vicks are small businesses and we have to do a better job to help them from industry and government and initiatives within department of homeland security to help the small businesses. it doesn't take a lot to be resilient but it prevents the attacks we see right now. strong pass phrases. basing things as individuals to institute across all organizations and small businesses because i think we'll see from this particular attack they have been hurt the most and just coming off a pandemic and got to be able to collaborate and work with the businesses or the stronger and resilient. >> i'll check my two factor
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authentication in the commercial break. thank you all. now breaking news out of haiti where president moise assassinated overnight. the prime minister says a highly trained and heavily armed group attacked the presidential palace killing the president. the first lady was also shot and being treated but the condition is currently unline. the prime minister is urging haitians to remain calm. joining me now the founder and publisher of the haiti times. how unexpected is this plital violence and what if do we know about the assailants? >> i got awakened about 5:30 in the morning from a correspondent in haiti telling me that moise has been shot. i was in shock because this is the last thing that we expected out of haiti.
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there is a lot of trauma, a lot of problems but then again we never expected this to happen. moise as several months left in the administration so elections were being scheduled and everyone thought this was it because to the old ways of taking care of the coup detat on the ground so everyone had to resign themselves for him being in the term smoothly if anything. no one expected this to happen. it is really sad and shocking moment for all of us to try to process what this all means. to answer the second part of your question we don't know. it is definitely an inside job because there are no reports of security guards being killed or
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injured. gun fire exchanges. so absolutely inside job but who exactly was behind it we don't know right now. >> do you have any new reporting on the condition of the first lady? >> no. she was taken to the hospital overseas. we don't know where but the most likely place would be the dominican republic because if her condition is grave she would have to be at a hospital as soon as possible. the other place that haitian officials go for medical care is cuba and so i don't know where she's gone but the fact remains that she is in critical condition and fighting for her life. >> is the line of succession clear in haiti? is it obvious who's in control of government now? the president had just appointed a new prime minister not yet sworn in so who's really in
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charge at this moment? >> no one, garrett. no one is in charge because of what you said. ideal lie the sitting prime minister would have been president. but there's a confusion as to who's actually the prime minister. because there's an interim prime minister and there's another prime minister that was nominated a few days ago. >> is it clear who's in control of the military? >> haiti's military is relatively new. not much of a force. it is based more of a police force and that institution is very weak and why i said earlier i didn't think a coup was on the table because that force cannot lead such a thing. >> what can the international community do in this moment of uncertainty? >> the haitian diesparo can help
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a lot. biden extended the protection for haitians in the u.s. but stayed away from haiti itself which is going through turmoil since 2018. the country is overran by gangs. just last week a massacre where 15 people died and also shot prime minister and a political activist. and that was really shocking to the country and this on top of all of the problems going on has been really a lot to bear and i think the international community has -- doesn't have too many option just the u.n. left haiti two years ago and
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there's no appetite for it to return and i'm not sure the haitians want that. no one wants that. what's moving forward? essentially like you mentioned going to have to be the diasparo working together with the people in haiti to try to bring the situation to a sort of like calm. >> an extremely fragile situation and one to continue to follow. thank you very much. coming up, tropical storm elsa makes landfall in florida. we're live on the gulf coast and in surfside next. and later sources tell nbc news that house republican leader mccarthy will fill the five republican seats on the january 6 select committee and that he's spoken with multiple members of the conference to serve. the latest reporting on that coming up.
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welcome back. tropical storm elsa made landfall around 11:00 this morn jared goff -- morning. it could create life threatening storm surge. elsa the first atlantic hurricane of the 2021 season is execing to move north. surfside, florida, is not having to deal with a significant impact from the tropical storm. workers are still searching more nearly 100 missing people. officials announced crews pulled ten more bodies from the rubble bringing the confirmed victims to 46. bring in nbc's antonia hilton and conditions there don't look too badly. what's the biggest concerns? >> reporter: right now the real challenge is continued high
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winds here. tampa is unique in that the water is shallow which means that the winds can contribute to a potential threatening storm surge and flooding. as the waters can be very easily movered ashore and people live in low lying areas. officials urged them to stay in higher ground or shelters until it passes over. governor desantis reminded people after the worst of the storm has gone through there is still potential for loss of life as trees come down, debris and power lines down. 25,000 or so people dealing with the power out right now. while many feel grateful they didn't get hit by the worst of elsa they need to be careful. >> vaughn, elsa mostly missed the surfside area. was the big ers impact of the
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storm that it led to officials deciding to demolish the rest of the building and opened up the new areas to search? >> reporter: it was the surfside mayor that called it a blessing in disguise the fact that the storm threatened to hit her harder forces them to bring that building down and get to that rescue effort accelerated and seen in the last 36 hours 18 more individuals recovered. last night ten. this is a process now with sunshine out here the crews are measure ably to access this ground here at this hour. >> vaughn, mayor cava says staff are on site at the other tower, the north champlain tower. what is going on over there and what tells us about the investigation of the collapsed building itself? >> reporter: this is the concern. the county essentially going and
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working with the cities to conduct audits here across the buildings across the greater miami-dade area and that particular building the champlain tower north built at the same time by the same firm and noted serious instruct ral concerns and individuals do live in the complex and of course addresses the challenges takes time and i think today a lot of this came to a head if i may. you saw on the 14th day of searching mayor cava address the reporters in an emotional way. she's been straight faced and assuring and here this afternoon she was still that but at the same time you can see that clearly two weeks into this it is taking a toll on those here in the community. take a listen. >> everybody single victim uncovered is somebody's child,
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somebody's mother, somebody's teacher, somebody's colleague. a classmate. a best friend. our commitment to this mission is deeply personal. this is our community, our neighbors, our families. and our first responders have truly searched that pile as if they're searching for their own loved one. >> reporter: there' also lawyers that went to courtroom here this morning that agreed to represent great number of the families pro bono. this is a community impacted here as this recovery process takes place. 94 unaccounted individuals. >> this is a story about human beings and families and will have harder times to come. thank you. coming up, the apparent winner in new york city's
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democratic mayoral primary put together a coalition compared to the coalition that joe biden put together to win the presidency. what it says for democrats crafts a midterm strategy. first happy coronavirus news. this morning new york city threw the first ticker tape parade in two years. celebrating the essential workers who worked to get the city through the worst of the coronavirus crisis. the emotional parade down the canyon of heroes with 14 floats representing 260 groups of front line workers. earn from the folks that worked in hospitals to bodegas. the first american to receiver a coronavirus vaccine was grand marshal. we'll be right back. ight back. . you remember rick, her neighbor? sure, he's the 76-year-old guy who still runs marathons, right? sadly, not anymore. wow.
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when he led he decleared himself to be an example for the national democratic party. >> i am the face of the new democratic party. look at me and you will see the future of the democratic party. if the democratic party fails to recognize what we did here in new york they're going to have a problem in the midterm elections and in the presidential elections. >> joining me now is my colleague steve kornacki. adams was unafraid to talk about crime on the campaign trail and said it should make him the new face of the democratic party. does this message work outside of new york city? >> yeah. it is really interesting. adams was in the fore front coming to just putting crime out there as a top issue, quality of lifer issues out there as a top
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concern to convey to the public. something people connected more with him than the other candidates. so i think that's a factor but also worth noting with adams he brought a unique background to this race, too. somebody who's the brooklyn borough president right now and as a police officer he'd been a sort of a leader in reform efforts, movements within the police force drawing attention to abuses by police officers when he was on the force so he brought a very unique background to this and the key in terms of appeal and talking about both things simultaneously. he didn't shy away from the past talking about justice and fairness issues and stressed equally and i think very loudly there the issue of crime,
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safety, quality of life. i think that broke through with him in a way others didn't necessarily have the opportunity to because they weren't talking about it. >> we need to stamp this segment that this election is unique but that said adams' core political positions aren't that different from those held by president biden who is much more popular than the national democratic brand. the nbc polling from april. democratic party 39%. republican party 32%. so is there something to be said for democrats as they look ahead to the midterms of being a joe biden democrat? >> yeah. the comparison to biden you can draw a parallel between this new york city race and the dynamics that we saw just play out here and what we saw in biden's democratic primary race in 2020. if you look at sort of a coalitions that emerged here look at the three top candidates
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in new york city, adams winning, garcia in a narrow second place, wylie as third place candidate though earlier she was in second place here. i think there was a lot of overlap demographically. with folks that voted for bernie sanders that supported bernie sanders. i think there's a lot of overlap, looking at the support of the primaries in 2020. demographically where warren support coming from. college educated often higher income. more female than male. a lot of overlap there. with garcia's appeal. and then you had adams and the core of the adams vote a middle class, working class, poor outer borough. big numbers outside of manhattan. extremely strong support of
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african american voters but that was the coalition i think that powered him and see parallels between that and joe biden in 2020 in the democratic primaries. >> a giant field with progressives dividing the vote and the moderate wins. i knew i had seen that somewhere before. the other thing from adams is the idea that twitter isn't real life and that the democratic party and maybe americans as a whole aren't as progressive as the activist's political class. is that an inconvenient truth for many in the democratic party? >> inescapable. the party that emerges not just through twitter but a connection between the conversations on twitter and comes through on the media and the broader mass cull chur. that strain of liberalism is
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prominent to anybody that taps into social media, watches political content. but i think that sort of branch of the democratic party, it's different than the democratic party that just powered adams in new york city, joe biden in that primary in 2020. they end up coming together in the general election. long term that could be an issue if that distance continues. if it increases ever. >> thank you. folks on twitter, don't at him. it's not his fault. former president donald trump announced today to bring a class action lawsuit against the biggest social media companies. the lawsuits are targeting facebook, instagram and twitter and filed in florida.
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trump is completely banned from twitter and temporarily from facebook following comments on the january 67 attack on the capitol. pete williams says the lawsuits are doomed to fail as judges have consistently ruled that platforms are private not subject to the first amendment but if they go nowhere they will be fund raising for the former president. in fact the former president and republican campaign groups are already doing it. up next, senator mitch mcconnell promising up to put up a hell of a fight as democrats try to pass a trillion dollar infrastructure plan along party lines. lines.
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this is going to be a hlg of a fight over what this country ought to look look in the future and will unfold here in the next few weeks. >> that was senate minority
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leader mitch mcconnell slamming democrats on the plan to pass a budget reconciliation bill alongside that bipartisan infrastructure plan. mcconnell promised to quote make it hard for democrats to pass a bill on party lines with trillions in spending for child care and other social programs not covered in the bipartisan infrastructure framework. president biden is touting that very plan across the country set to speak shortfully crystal lake, illinois. joining me is my colleague leighann caldwell. president biden said he might support the framework and throwing a wrench in the way of the democrat-led reconciliation bill so is the whole package in trouble? just the reconciliation bill? where do we stand on all of this? >> reporter: if the whole thing falls that's really bad news for democrats and president biden especially. the reality is that leader
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mcconnell as the ability to probably sink at least the bipartisan component convincing enough in the party to object to it. as far as this reconciliation bill is concern mcconnell yesterday spoke in the strongest terms yet that this is a major fight moving forward and that there's people that he says in the political center and some democrats in states who are not going to like what is in this major reconciliation bill and then because of the major cost of it and that seems to be a message to senator sinema and manchin whose eyes on where they fall and stick with the other 48 members of the party or if they're going to be the ones that sink this reconciliation
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bill. mcconnell won't go down fighting. >> he'll lobby them to try to lock them in a broom closet to miss votes. on the other side of the capitol, house republican leader mccarthy is planning to putt his five republicans on the january 6 select committee. what do we know about who he might choose or what the strategy might be even by agreeing to participate in this committee at all? >> reporter: yeah. our reporting including yours shows that he is talking to lawmakers about sitting on this select committee republicans and who he's going to choose is going to be the big question and it is going to set the tone really of what this -- how republicans deal with this select committee and if they're going to be willing partners in investigating or just try to derail and make this a political fire bomb for democrats. the names that we hear most
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often are the usual suspects like mike johnson of louisiana and elise stefanik. she replaced liz cheney. jim jordan, most vocal and most effective messenger in the republican party among house members as we speak so we'll see how mccarthy deals with this. we have no timeline yet but the fact that the sources say he is going to choose members is a development. >> democrats aren't keen on waiting around for that. we could see that first hearing soon. thank you. coming up, as america reckons with how to teach and talk about the dark parts of oush history the u.s. government is working to uncover the truth of what happened in native children at government boardingschools. we will have that story next. stt
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sharing with you all, first, that the department will launch the federal indian boarding school initiative. >> from the tulsa massacre to the native american boarding schools, the biden administration is beginning to address some of the darkest parts of our history. the american native children who were taken from their homes to be put in boarding schools has not been investigated. this announcement is coming after the remains of nearly 1,000 children were uncovered in unmarked graves at similar boarding schools in canada, and as horrifying as those numbers are, some expect the toll from u.s. boarding schools to be much higher. i am joined by the native american rights fund.
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and so, brett, this is the first time that america has taken account of these boarding schools and native american boarding schools, and how is it that we are opening up this investigation and starting to look? >> it is a huge first step, and landmark and the first time that the united states has taken steps towards the reconciliation of the forced assimilation that has lasted over 100 years. >> obviously, this is going to be a long and i presume quite painful process, and what does it take to unravel a century of pain and trauma, and what do you expect it to produce? >> a massive investigation of what happened. it is not known how many children were involved, who they were and what happened to them.
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so a full accounting needs to happen, and most of the records are old by now, and they are buried within the federal archives probably, and also within church archives and the churches who ran the schools. what we would like to see on the other end of it, obviously, the truth telling of what happened is the first step of any reconciliation process, which is a big first step, and it is to document why that matters today, and it does. for example, the transgenerational transference of trauma is known in the field of psychology in the years, but it is not so well known outside of that field, so it is good to show why what happened at the boarding schools still matters today within the communities, and then also moving forward, how do we heal from what happened, and the tribal schools have good ideas, because they have been trying to heal all along, and hopefully they will get some help with that. >> i want to broaden the context, and we are in a time in
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the country of grappling of how to handle darker periods of the history head-on, and how the teach real history in generation, and i grew up in texas, and i did not learn about this in school, and in your view, how pivotal is this investigations, and efforts like this one to see how the history that we are teaching is complete? >> this is a huge first step. this is a first time that i am aware of that the united states has so willingly taken on the responsibility to become more knowledgeable of and more truthful about what actually happened in the past. it is essential to move forward like i said before, and so this is great, and hopefully it is going to spark an interest and lead to more and more understanding of what the real understanding of the nation's past is, and only can we understand that past and move forward intentionally. >> here is what we could be looking at in the future, and
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canada's truth and reconciliation report has described the residential schools report is more than a school, but it was part of the conscious policy of genocide. do you expect the united states to go that far? was this cultural genocide on the u.s. soil? >> yes, it was. that was clearly the intent and one of the more famous catch phrases by one of the major proponents of the thing was to kill the indian in order to save the man inside of the child. that is who was leading the charge was basically saying that, and yes, the united states will be similar to canada, and in fact, canada modeled the system after the united states, and there is good documentation in the historical record after that. >> what can we learn from canada about the truth in reconciliation efforts that they put in place there, and the canadian nations that are still
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facing challenges years after the report was completed? >> i think that the most present lesson now is that we need to be thorough enough, and the danger that we would be done with this within a year, and secretary hollins' investigation is set to go for a year, but it is going to take longer than a year to research and document more than 100 years' policy and practice. so we have to check more than a box after this year. it is going to open up doors and the recent discovery of the graves and despite what canada has done more than decade is the need to be more thorough. and another process that we need to pay attention to in canada is the pay attention to the mistakes that they learned along the way. for example, early on, they took testimony from the survivors, and it was harmful to the survivors, and in a way that required aftercare for them.
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so learning from them. >> and important conversation from brett shelter of the native american rights fund. thank you. and chuck will be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." and we will have more coverage with geoff bennett right after this break. bennett right after this break. t-mobile america's largest, fastest, most reliable 5g network. this isn't just a walk up the stairs. when you have an irregular heartbeat, it's more. it's dignity. the freedom to go where you want, knowing your doctor can watch over your heart. ♪♪ (upbeat music) - [narrator] this is kate.
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