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welcome to tuesday. it's "meet the press daily." i'm garrett haake in for chuck today. elsa is has maximum sustained winds of 60 miles per hour. a patrol call storm warning is in effect with some areas under a hurricane watch. the storm could complicate ongoing search and rescue efforts at the collapsed condo in surfside where crews continue to work around the clock. we'll go live to the scene ahead. elsa broke the record for the earliest e-named storm ever for the atlantic hurricane season. about six weeks earlier than average. earlier and more sbebs storms, extreme heat in the pacific northwest and worsening drought conditions are a few of the many recent headlines further raising the a large on the growing climate crisis and many activists and progressive democrats are looking to
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congress for what they see as the perhaps the last best opportunity to meet this crisis head on. but much of what progressives want has been stripped out of the bipartisan infrastructure deal struck by the white house putting more pressure on the democratic-only reconciliation package to include the climate initiatives. that reconciliation package must get approval from moderates like joe manchin and progressives like ed markey saying repeatedly no climate, no deal. and the scope of the climate provisions are one side of the political rubik's cube democrats have been dealing with. the house problem solvers caucus announced to back this bipartisan infrastructure framework today. how does their support change the math and the politics around
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that bill moving forward? >> reporter: that's right. they back a concept. they support the 579 billion infrastructure frame work but doesn't have legislative language and as you know there's a big gap between supporting a concept and then the legislation. if those 15 -- if the problem solvers caucus endorsement holds that means 15 republicans at a men mum in the house supports that bill and gives nancy pelosi wriggle room on the left to lose some democrats who might not want to move forward with the bipartisan deal and advance it but the speaker's office and the speaker is emphatic to not bring up the infrastructure deal or any other piece of legislation until the senate passes both infrastructure bill and the reconciliation with climate priorities. >> i think i have to put a quarter in the jar for calling it a bill when there is not a
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bill. how does democrats try to work this high wire act? you had the white house publicly backing away from the idea that these two pieces of legislation, two concepts, the infrastructure deal and the reconciliation package are linked but how are congressional leaders keeping them in balance and move them forward? >> reporter: it's enormously complicated. a source compared it to a rubik's cube. you have to make sure that the moderates get what they want. their policy demands there. you have to make sure the republicans are on board because the moderates want bipartisan cover. make sure the progressives are on cover and the real priority is climate change and the safety net with child care, elder care. that sort of thing. you have to keep these things together while also getting 98% of house democrats on board with the reconciliation bill and 100%
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of the 50 senate democrats on board with the bill and there are some democratic senators like ed markey who say no climate no deal and emphatic that the infrastructure bill should not and cannot get in the way of progress on climate change and the reconciliation bill. >> there's no room for error. it's a huge problem and talking a lot about climate and climate change provisions with the next two guests. it is a huge priority for progressives. where do the negotiations stand on including the kind of muscular provisions like they want to see in this reconciliation piece? >> reporter: it's very much up in the air and the strategy is to start with a major opening bid. that's 6 trillion for reconciliation bill as an overall price tag and not going to happen but it shows you where progressives are coming from.
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the list of demands from the caucus is major investments in housing upgrades consistent with the green new deal. that's a very heavy lift. investments in a new power grid, clean energy to keep climate warming to the maximum proposed of 1.5 degrees of warms. these are very ambitious asks and unlikely to get the support you need of democrats but that's where they're starting and they'll find a way to move forward and did it the democratic caucus unified on this. >> sahil on capitol hill. i'm joined by lee stoke at university of california santa barbara. professor, talking about a hurricane in the southeast. we just saw these extreme temperatures in the northwest. can an infrastructure overhaul be complete without the kind of initiatives that sahil was
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talking about, addressing climate change to make sure the roads and bridges aren't washed away in the next generation? >> last week was a big wake-up call for people. we saw record temperatures in seattle and portland. in portland to 116 degrees fahrenheit and roads that were buckling. there was literally metal that was just melting in this high temperature. about 800 people have died in these record heat waves across the west coast and a very deadly event and not just what's happening on the west coast. in detroit terrible flooding that the city is still dealing with. as you mentioned tropical storm elsa headed towards florida. the list can go on and on in terms of climate disasters so we need congress to act. you cannot have an infrastructure bill with climate change happening right now that doesn't take on the climate crisis. that's why it's so important to
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be talking about the bipartisan bill alongside a bold climate infrastructure package that president biden has proposed called the american jobs plan and which is really popular with the public seeing what's happening with climate change and people are scared and they want congress to act. >> the bipartisan portion of the infrastructure legislation does leave out most of the big climate initiatives promoted by the white house in the jobs plan. that leighs democrats doing this alone on the reconciliation bill. i want to talk about how pivotal you think this is. "the new york times" described it as a do or die moment. is this hyperbole? if democrats don't take advantage of the opportunity to address this in a complete way, what are we looking at around the corner in the next set of summer heat waves? >> it's not hyperbole what he
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wrote. i was quoted in that piece and i said this is a window of opportunity. the windows for policy change in congress open and they close. and the last time we had a chance to pass congressional legislation on climate was 12 years ago. with the waxman/markey bill and why it's so critical that 14 senators stepped up sayinging no climate no deal. they're not going to be moving forward orion any legislation this summer without a bold climate package. we know what needs to be in that climate package. we need to be cleaning up the electricity system. getting to 80% clean by 2030. we can do that threw a clean standard. and through extending tax credits. these are popular ideas that the public supports and the benefit of the reconciliation approach is that it turns it into an investment program with the federal government. it is a kind of cost share you could say where the federal
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government says you know what? this is what we need to do as a society to keep people safe, to protect the infrastructure. so we'll help pick up the cost. >> professor, only about 30 seconds left with you. can you give me -- if you say i can get in a couple things to the president's desk. what's the order? what are the most critical things to get to the president's desk coming to climate? >> we need things on electricity. on transportation. support on electric vehicles and things on clean buildings to get fossil gas out of homes through heat pumps and stoves and then we can meet the goal. >> fabulous. professor stokes, thank you. we'll turn around and talk about that with a democrat at the center of the negotiations on the democrats' reconciliation
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bill, that's kentucky congressman john yarmouth. mr. chairman, you heard there from the professor you're ultimately a key people who has to decide what can go in this bill, what doesn't fit in this bill. when it comes to climate can you get any of those three priorities in? more than what the professor is talking about into this reconciliation package? >> i think we can. let me add one thing to what professor stokes didn't say and that is a huge response to research and development. the president proposed this is essential. we have the mental capacity. i think in this country to solve much of the climate problem if we just add the -- rededicate the resources to them and an important priority. i know everybody wants to focus on the differences that we as democrats have and how people are taking hard and fast
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positions. i don't think that's happening in reality. i think there's posturing going on and people say we won't vote for anything without this but every democrat on our side of the building, the capitol, on the senate side understands that we have to have virtual unanimity in order to get anything done. any of you are prytys. everybody knows that they have to compromise some on their own priorities. but everybody is in agreement i think with the general themes of the president's job plan and families plan. that is, we have to make a huge investment in infrastructure. infrastructure has to be climate related and we have this care economy that's part of the economic foundation of the country to emphasize. a lot of balls in the air but a common purpose and e met last week with the blue dogs, moderate wing. with the progressives and the
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committee chair and that's the sense i got from everybody. we have to stick together. we have to vote for one thing and that we won't get everything that we want. >> we have seen the moderates flexing the muscle already. joe manchin on the senate side and now you have progressive members making noise about blocking or not voting for the reconciliation package, the paul ryan -- bipartisan bill. how seriously do you take these threats? listen. >> if this package, the reconciliation bill, isn't big enough will you consider not voting for it? >> yeah. if it doesn't meet our climate and racial justice and economic justice goals i will not be voting for it. >> so you say you're all working together here. do you think you can congressman bowman's goals here? what do you make of comments like that? >> i'm not sure that he is
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talking to nancy pelosi yet. she is a very convincing leader. i just think that these are -- that right now as sahil said, there's no legislative language. we don't know ultimately what the pay fors are going to be. what revenue elements are part of both reconciliation and the infrastructure -- bipartisan infrastructure plan if it comes to pass so there's a lot of details to be ironed out before we can ever count votes. so what we are trying to do is work together. house and senate. we are working. we on the house budget committee working with the senate budget committee. all the committees of jurisdiction are working to try to find a package on
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infrastructure, on the care economy and the revenue side that can get virtually every democratic vote in congress. >> one thing that's not a detail is the price tag of this. in my day job up on capitol hill i noticed democrats stopped talking about the numbers that might be attached to this. at least in any detail but earlier on bernie sanders on one end saying $6 trillion. joe manchin speculated numbers in the $2 trillion range. there are thousands of billion of dollars in between. where's the goldilocks zone for you as somebody that has to make some decisions? >> i met with the white house legislative team last week and they said i bet you stay up at night counting dollars. i said no, i count votes. i'm not worried about the money. 20167 republican tax cuts said $1.6 trillion. that is not true. it was about $5 trillion worth
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of changes in the tax code. but it was a net because they found revenues in other places, a net of 1.7. throwing numbers around at this point is really dangerous because it may be a top line spending number and i think the -- what we need to focus on is the benefits of what we propose to the american people and not the cost. we finally in this country are asking questions in the right order. we ask first what do we need to do to serve the american people? and then secondly how do we resource it? i'm excited about that and i think the american people are, as well. >> chairman yarmuth, i'll be interested to see how it plays politically because republicans will call it a $6 trillion package until you call it something else. chairman yarmuth of kentucky, thank you. the mayor of surfside says the rescue operations will continue around the clock until
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everyone has been pulled out of the rubble. he joins me next. later the ongoing push to get more americans vaccinated as cases of the delta variant continue to grow. it is now the most common strain in the country's most populous state. ♪ ♪i've got the brains you've got the looks♪ ♪let's make lots of money♪
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welcome back. the death toll continues to climb in the condo collapse in surfside, florida. officials announced that crews found four more victims. at least 32 people are now confirmed dead with 113 people still unaccounted for. the search now in its 13th day has a new sense of urgency. with tropical storm elsa moving north and while they may avoid the worst of the wrath crews faced winds and rain continuing to search for victims and
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possible survivors. vaughn hillyard joins me now from surfside. have you noticed a new sense of urgency with the storm looming? >> reporter: yes. we have. ever since 1:00 a.m. yesterday morning about 200 individuals, rescue crew on top of the pile. a slight pauses of time overnight due to lightning here but today is a blessing here. we were expecting rain at sun rise this morning and wind gusts and lightning. but there's not been any rain today and like everybody we have been checking and the storm moved west which is prevented the rain here from settling in over this rescue effort here. i want you to hear from maggie castro, a fire rescue worker who with the team on the pile because i asked the question to her, at what point does this
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become a recovery effort? they're still calling this a rescue operation and individuals found alive since the day of the collapse here because operationally concerning could they go at a quicker pace to recover more bodies. >> at the end of the day we are still looking for people. we are still looking for families' loved ones and always treating the people looking for with that dignity and respect and honor they deserve. i don't foresee us changing too much the way we do the work because that's what we're trying to do preserve is something to bring back to the families. >> reporter: you said 113 unaccounted for individuals. there's a new number that officials gave. that is the number 70. 70 confirmed missing individuals. essentially a 43-person discrepancy. there are the questions here
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about who are these 43 individuals. officials said they're trying to identify everybody who machb in that building. essentially folks calling in leads or reporting folks that were inside potentially that building. but there is a question mark. closer to 70, 113? hoping for that number on the lorer end this afternoon. >> yes, we are. vaughn hillyard in florida. thank you. we me is charles burkett mayor of surfside, florida. you said you have deep concerns of champlain tower north. what are those concerns? >> you know, it is the -- it's got the same name, the same developer, built at the same time. the plans substantially the same and probably built with the material and setting off a lot of alarm bells in my head and to that end i have asked our town
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manager and town attorney and our consulting engineer to focus on this building and tell me what we need to do to make sure it is safe not going to fall down to the best extent we can. now it's my opinion that something very, very bad happened at this champlain south towers. it seems to me -- this is just my opinion that something happened underneath the building. because it seems to have just fallen into a hole and we've got to make sure that the champlain north tower building and the others don't have this sort of mystery problem that we are now becoming aware of. >> i want to ask you and i hate to do it but the same question that vaughn asked that rescue worker there. what point does this become a recovery mission opposed to a rescue mission? >> after we pull the last person
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out of the rubble. >> fair enough. understandable attitude i'm sure a lot of families involved appreciate. let me ask you. how did the saturday night implosion of the rest of the tower change what's going on on the pile? what i think how the search is being conducted? >> completely. you know, a couple days ago i met with governor desantis and agreed that given the storm to blow the building down on top of the pile creating a catastrophe for the rescue i went to mayor cava who had been told three weeks to bring the building down and told her that i thought and the governor thought we could bring it down in 30 hours or less. to her credit, she went back to her experts and found a way to get this building down within that time frame. and that was a tough, bold
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decision and i credit her with the leadership qualities in that moment because that was a very tough call, i think the right call and opened up huge vistas for us. we didn't have the looming threat of that building falling down on the pile allowing us to get the work ores and heavy machinery on a third of a pile which had not here to fore been accessible. so that change enhanced the search. that allowed us to pore resources on the side and bring out more survivors, more victims, more quickly. >> when you look for a miracle every little bit counts. you met with the families of some of the people still unaccounted for. what did you tell them? how are they holding up now as we get into the second week of this? >> listen. i met with a family this
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morning. i go to the family briefing every day twice a day. a family had a daughter that had graduated law school and married in january and just starting her life with her husband who are missing in the building. the mother is distraught. we talked about what had been done and i assured her that i know that this rescue effort is unlike any that we have seen in the past. given that every single level of government, every stripe of political persuasion are all working together. we are all pulling in the same direction. we have one goal in mind and that is to pull those people out of the rubble and reunite them with their families. we don't have a resource problem. as i have said all along we have a luck problem and hoping that we are going to see some miracles and execing some miracles. we have prayers and we're really -- the rescue workers are
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super charged. i'm out there every day. they are pouring the hearts and souls into this effort. everybody knows it. we have to sit and hope and pray for the results we are looking for. >> mayor burkett, thank you. everyone in the community is in our thoughts, my prayers. we'll bring updates we can to the viewers as we can. i hope you stay dry and the crews keep working. a russian hacking group is claiming credit for what some call a largest ransomware attack ever. how will the u.s. respond? d? removes 99.9% of the virus that causes covid-19 from treated air. so you can breathe easier, knowing that you and your family have added protection. ♪ ♪ ugh, there's that cute guy from 12c.
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nbc's shannon pettypiece is at the white house. there's growing pressure on the white house to do something else to defend the u.s. better against the cyber attacks. how's the white house planning to respond? is there a longer term plan in the works? >> reporter: press secretary jen psaki was asked about this in the briefing room right now and we got new information from her saying that high-level u.s. officials have been in contact with high-level russian officials on the area of cyber attacks since the meeting with the president in geneva and stopped short of directly attributing this to russia saying that the intelligence agency z doesn't have a ruling on that but cyber security experts link it to russia but said that the administration position remains that if russia's not going to take action against bad actors on its soil or linked to the country then the u.s. will take some
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action. not the strongest words against the country but the message that the president's position from geneva remains and that the u.s. is looking into this seriously. >> i don't know that high-level follow-up conversations are satisfactory with the highest level possible meeting with the two leaders. what's the white house's view, approaching the idea that russia's role in this? mabel not a state hack but a group that is protected by the russian government or at least ignored by the russian government. can you get into that? >> reporter: again, it's this gray area that a lot of groups operate in and i think psaki said that sometimes they have affiliates and can kind of make it difficult to directly link them to the russian government. from this administration, talking to administration officials and people close to the administration more broadly about their russia strategy, they like to keep the tough
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conversations with russia private and rather than come out publicly and admonish russia so one strategy here could be to save the tough talk for the phone and the private conversations and in the public sphere answering questions or press secretary psaki coming out and answering questions to sort of lay off the pressure campaign publicly but let things play out behind the scenes so that's a potential thing that we could have going on here. >> we'll keep an eye on that strategy. on a different topic the president is receives a covid briefing i believe right now as missing the vaccination goal over the weekend. 70% by july fourth goal. it could take another month to get there so where does the administration turn its focus now? how do they make up that gap where now you see the problems of hesitancy and specific states just continue to persist? >> reporter: right.
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a lot of concerns in the administration about these pockets and sometimes much bigger than pockets of unvaccinated people as this delta variant rapidly spreads across the u.s. and will be the dominant strain. it's linked to more illness and a big concern why the administration saying they expect the president to outline some areas to double down. getting vaccine to pediatrician offices and primary care doctors to really communicate directly with patients as a person they trust and the community outreach efforts they have been trying. >> the people that don't trust dr. fauci will trust their doctor. shannon, thank you. awaiting remarks from president biden in about an hour on covid-19 we are digging into what we know and don't know about that delta variant and its specific dangers.
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welcome back. as we mentioned later this afternoon president biden will outline how the u.s. plans to increase vaccinations in lagging communities. as the hyper transmissible delta variant takes a stronger hold in the u.s. it is the most common variant in california. last week cdc director said it is a quarter of the new cases nationally. vaccines are still largely effective though now questions of how effective. israel reported a steep drop in protection to the virus with the pfizer vaccine but the vaccine is more than 90% effective of preventing serious illness. joining me is an infectious diseases physician. she's also a msnbc contributor. doc, the u.s. missed the
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administration's 70% vaccine goal. delta is now on track to be the most dominant strain in the u.s. what do you want to hear from the president today. what areas do you think the administration can take helpful action? >> i think what you are seeing is that strain or trend develop that we were worried about which is that with the variant i'll talk about the israel study in a second but with the protection of hospitalizations and deaths and it really is the unvaccinated. 99% of the deaths from covid-19 are among unvaccinated people in this country so the areas that shannon talked about with under overall vaccination and the one thing i think -- i hope we don't miss is pockets of unvaccinated people within highly vaccinated states. the report coming out of l.a. county of increased
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hospitalizations in young patients particularly black and hispanic patients and the concern here is we saw this -- my concern is of the last year we saw communities of color getting affected because many of the people affected were front line essential workers. if you have pockets and l.a. county for example showing 18% increase in hospitalizations among african-americans you see a big gap among young californians from xhumpbts of color compared to those lower. for example in asian-americans in the 20s. so what i'm hoping is that the president will not just focus on the states under vaccinated but the pockets and patients who are
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high risk because of the fact they're on the front lines. >> i don't know how you convince someone that haven't gotten the vaccine to get it now but on the delta issue it is the dominant variant in california. what do you think are the odds it's the dominant variant in the country if not already? >> the most predominant almost in every state. so far that has seen an increase in cases. that is taking over. the israel study, i want to throw caution on that because we haven't seen the data on that but the study basically shows an increase in the number of people getting symptomatic infection from the pfizer vaccine and england showed you have good protection, 88% with the delta variant and we need to see that. what this tells me for the states with higher number of delta variants, if you have a
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variant you need to see more people getting vaccinated. when we build the models we build that on how efficacious the vaccines are and you need more people to be vaccinated to stop the transmission. it raises the concern for me. cdc may stop reporting breakthrough infections in those people not vaccinated. i would like to have systematic breakthroughs in vaccinated for exactly the reason. >> if most of the infections are not severe or potentially asymptomatic i think people may not know that they have covid now. if you get the sniffles you won't run for a covid test like you might have done. can you clear this up?
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from the israeli study, is there anything that's pointing to the idea particularly since both focus on the pfizer vaccine that people in the u.s. might be thinking about booster shots? is that something that seems more realistic as you look at the data? >> again i want to throw caution there. we haven't seen the data from the israel study and we have to understand. one is what's different about the public health england study showing that you have a high protection and if the data holds out from israel what's the difference in the populations? doesn't matter. what if you get breakthrough infection and not transmitting. that's why not for the individual won't matter if you have a mild infection. but for research and understanding whether the delta variant is having more infections we should have usda
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that and cataloging and getting information to cdc on the symptomatic infections not hospitalized is important. we don't know the answer to that. >> doctor, super quickly. for those fully vaccinated, do you need to do anything different with the delta variant prevalence? >> the data even with the israeli study says good protection against severe disease but medically high risk, in areas of high transmission, put on a mask going indoors and to protect you further. >> thank you. up next, what's changed and what hasn't? exactly six months since the attack on the capitol. ♪
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[john legend's i can see clearly now] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ make your reunion happen with vrbo. your together awaits. vrbo welcome back. it's been six months nearly to the minute since the historically mundane political process of certifying election results turned to the worst attack on the u.s. capitol in more than 200 years. today more than 500 people have been criminally charged for their involvement. meanwhile the house investigation is just getting started and the politics surrounding it are heating up. speaker pelosi already tapped eight members to sit on the chit
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committee and now it's up to republicans to fill or not fill the remaining five seats. joining me is former congresswoman donna edwards and brendan buck. brendan, i want to start with you. speaker pelosi appointed eight members to the house select committee last week. now leader mccarthy has the opportunity to recommend five more if he wants to with pelosi's final approval. who would you tell them to put on this committee and why? >> i actually don't think that he was likely going to name any republican members until liz cheney agreed to be one of nancy pelosi's appointees. i don't think he wanted to legitimize the panel. i still think that's the approach. the republican job on this is to take every opportunity they can to say this is a partisan
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political exercise. he's going to be looking for some brawlers, some republicans who are known to fight and can get in there and mix it up. i'm thinking of a jim jordan. you think back to elise stefanik when she defended donald trump in the impeachment. i think there's a long line of republicans who would like to be on this, because there's no downside to them to be defending donald trump in republican politics these days. the next wave may be a jim banks or rodney davis. they're all going to be interested in being on this panel because the incentives are to downplay this, to defend donald trump and to attack democrats as being partisan political hacks. that's really what they're going to be trying to do. >> i think we might have gotten a preview of the mccarthy strategy last week. i asked him if he regretted not supporting the independent submission because he was now stuck with this committee.
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>> no. i regret the politics of nancy pelosi. for 6 months she played politics with this. so what has transpired in those 6 months? in those 6 months in the senate they had two committees bipartisanly investigate this and give it a report. the fbi has arrested almost 500 people. that's why no one really takes this serious based upon the direction of what she wants to go. >> is this a preview? are we going to see five or six republicans saying look what a big joke this is? >> yeah. unfortunately, i don't think this is going to necessarily be a sober fact-finding mission for republicans. look, the tricky thing is that one of the things i'm sure this committee is going to want to look into is some of the actions of republican members to motivating people to want to be
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there. that's where it's going to get really interesting whether it's a mo brooks speaking at that rally. >> how do democrats hedge against the idea this looks so partisan? i think we've compared this committee a lot to the benghazi committee which i think is its closest analog in structure. how do democrats make this look like a serious fact-finding committee and not like a circus, if that's the way republicans try to pull it? >> first of all, the benghazi committee started out as a circus. i don't think under the leadership of benny thompson, if you know anything about him from his leadership of the homeland security committee, he's a no-nonsense guy, he's going to follow the rules. i think there's going to be a lot of truth seeking on the democratic side. they'll let the republicans play their antics, but the reality is
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the republicans don't really control anything in this process because they gave that up by abandoning the idea of an independent commission. i think democrats are going to put their heads down, follow the facts and not play to the antics that will no doubt be a part of the republican presentation. frankly, i wouldn't be surprised because there's so much vying on the republican side that the worst actors, the loudest voices, the biggest clowns will be part of the republican selections. i think it's going to make democrats and liz cheney look all the more competent, professional and really seeking the truth of what happened before, during and after january 6th. >> republicans will tell you their best friend when they're in the minority across d.c. is the idea of democratic overreach. does trying to get former president trump to come testify,
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does that get into that overreach territory? >> i don't think they have to do that. i think there's going to be a lot of seeking of documents and documentation, of records that are going to prove their case. i think they will very judiciously exercise their subpoena authority and the witnesses they will be calling might come from the department of defense and the d.c. national guard and all of those elements that are going to lend a lot of credibility to this process. i just don't really see democrats calling people who are going to turn it into a circus. >> we have to leave it there. we could do an hour on this and i bet at some point we will. thank you all for being with us for this hour.
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