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i'll see you tomorrow and sunday morning from eight to 10 pm eastern. this week i'm talking to congressman bennie thompson, from the committee to investigate the january 6th insurrection. have a great holiday. and goodnight. ay an>> let me welcome everyone to the be. we begin tonight with donald trump's kids speaking out amid this ongoing criminal criminal probe after their company, where they work, the trump organization and his longtime cfo, have been indicted. it was 15 counts of charges we've been running through that are in our coverage starting -- growing pressure and heat on ellen weisselberg to talk, to flip. now, there are many ways to count this up and their debates over how typical this kind of charges is. but as a practical, legal matter he could face over a decade. potentially a decade in prison if convicted. those are numbers that would
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give get anyone's attention. whether you think is an unusual theory of the case to go after these benefits are not. trump's children are speaking out for the very first time about the indictment. donald trump jr., who is executive vice president posted a 13 minute video on facebook, discussing how the intent he says, is to try to defend the company where he works and his family business. his he has every right to speak out. although some of what he said may have made matters worse. >> my father, after almost 50 years of employment, paid for his grandkids private schools in new york city. my dad did that, because he's a good guy. takes care of his employees. >> my dad did that by because he's a good guy. well, that may not be helpful. he's linking his father, he's providing the kind of public testimony. we don't have any reason to believe he's faced vigil grandeur. and admitting it was a trump indeed who personally paid for weisselberg's kids. for schools, i should say. i just want to be clear with
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you, as a logical matter, there is no defense toot attacks of asian that you didn't help someone. by definition, if you evade taxes, that's extra money. and if you give that money to extreme -- or even give it to charity, that doesn't get you out of the underlying charge if the facts show under jury thinks that you dodge taxes. this is about off the books tax crime allegations. and as reference in the indictment, don junior may have just decided to admit what is already on paper or on the books, which is donald trump's signature on those very checks that were used as criminal evidence in the indictment. another executive at the company, another family member, eric trump speaking out to defend family. >> are you concerned they may send an indictment your way, your brothers we, or your sister's way? ment your way,you >> know, i'm . because we've always lived clean lives and. believe me, if they could have they already would have. right? that's what they wanted.
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and that was their main goal. >> amazingly clean lives. you can think of this as the outcast defense. so fresh and so clean. but again, adjectives, claims, opinions about how they live or what the goals were, that is not going to cut it in court. if you watch this show the be, you know we cover these cases fairly accurately. i said before and throughout coverage of this trial, there may be exculpatory accidents for mr. also burke. he may be the case but he won't beat it by saying that he so fresh and so clean. as for what else is going on in the case, we know the new york attorney general said that is a cool, ongoing case. we don't know the entire impact of the trump org on the pending indictments. -- we don't have any reporting on anything that suggests the kind of repeat corrections have hit this company yet. let's get right into it with our experts.
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rnc chair michael steele and former sdny prosecutor danya perry. good evening both of you. >> a, sorry. >> are you feeling clean michael? are you feeling fresh and clean? >> i feel fresh, baby. i feel fresh. [laughs] it's the best defense i have to offer is i'm fresh. [laughs] >> i mean, look, michael this is my last q, i'm having a little fun with it. obviously africa are the serious part seriously. by politics and in rhetoric, you can see whatever you want, you can run your campaign about whatever you want. your supporters will probably give you the benefit of the doubt on certain things. is it going to work the same way in court though to say this was all about donald trump's charity and his being nice employees and that's all it was about? >> no. no. then law doesn't give a damn about his charitable inclinations. [laughs] when it cares about,
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particularly in the tax base, as the good counsel who is with us knows, is whether or not you are in violation of the law. so as you rightly lays out, i may have the best intense in the world. here's $100,000 to educate your child. guess what, the irs says that's awfully nice of you, but ma'am that is income to you. and sir, you have to account for that on your books for the company. so, if you don't do either of those two things, guess what? you are in violation. so, you can be amazingly clean in your mind, but your hands and your actions are still dirty. and that's the problem. and here's the second problem. the boys need to shut the hell of a. because all they're doing is offering prosecutors efforts evidence they're going to replay at the trial. so, it's amazing to me that they still believe in this trump magical kingdom that if
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we say it it is so. and if we say enough enough people will believe it to make it so. but that's not how the irs and the government looks at these things when they come at you. so, i just find it all rather amazing that amazing clean will be the owner of the day until the irs tells you, guess what, you're going to jail. u, guess what, you're goi>> yeah, that will ma. danya, i want to play a little bit more of eric trump who might want to talk less as michael pointed out. here he was. >> they had an entire district attorney office and attorney generals office that's focused on taking down a political opponent. this is what they do. this is new york state for you. this is worse than a banana republic. it's truly horrible. >> danya, let's take that
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seriously. less explore if someone does the thought experiment and a local red district or state, against the prominent democrat, in a case that was initially described as potentially big and involving said democrats. but anticipating the people around them. and is numerically smaller. i don't think one point $7 million in tax evasion is most americans think is -- having said that, this is a different point. a different allegation about a political da office. your view and response to that? >> yeah, first of all i want to go back and agree with michael. people should be talking less. right now, they are potentially much like weisselberg, agents of the company. they should be watching what they're saying. they also don't appear to be legal experts or tax experts.
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their comments are inaccurate on many levels. i don't think they will have jury appeal. they certainly don't have any legal value. the da's office has been looking at this for years, as we know. they just brought the first case. we don't know if it is this is the last. these are serious i -- mean every felony charge is serious one. but this one charge is pervasive, years long, broad scheme on behalf of an organization that appears to be a modus operandi for the company. right now the low hanging fruit at least, have been charge. we've got weisselberg. clearly they are going to be others. i don't think it's time for the trump team to be taking any sort of victory lap. trump has not been charged or anyone else. nor should they be saying they could've charged them, they would have charged them.
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because this is the first round and it's not the last. and then this happens all the time. a lot of talk about this. a, it's not a small defense. and be, it's just the first defense. so, i think they should be silent and watching and waiting and lori lawyer-ing up. >> fair points, and then michael, we didn't have an open surveillance camera when the news broke, but we had an audio read out, a kind of live flocking to use the technology that he's familiar with. he is an ex blocker now, and that's okay. that's okay. but it was kind of an audio live blog with an abc news reporter who happen to be on the phone conducting another interview, so we have an interesting read on that. take a listen. >> i just spoke to former president trump who's reacting to this in realtime. he called the charges are disgrace and it is a
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continuation of the witch hunt that's been going on for sometime can continuously said that it's a shame, paused and said at cable news coverage and said to me, john, i can't believe it is a disgrace, he's a tremendous person. and then he went on to say that weisselberg, this is former president trump terry, he said that they are pressuring him, setting him up, they want him to lie against trump. and then as the former president does he think it's gonna happen? he said, no. >> fact check, and then a question, the prosecutors are not demanding he lied, indeed prosecutors can be disbarred or worse for that. what they're asking weisselberg to do is go under oath and tell the truth, and if that cooperation or truth, by the way, does not result in charges, that is okay. they have the evidence, they just want to get his cooperation which he's resisting which is why they are finn references to gangs, mobs, and other places. most americans when called upon in a situation like this, even
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if they get a lawyer and double-check, they're willing to provide accurate testimonies. fact check there. then your response to just the overall reaction, what we're gonna get from this person who may not run for office again? >> the first part of what trump said is the typical trump dribble about witchhunts and outrage and indignation, etc. we dismiss that. at least i dismiss that. what i pay attention to was the last thing he said, when asked will weisselberg basically flip on him and his response was no, and i think everybody needs to take that with a pound of understanding. weisselberg knows how his bread has been bothered for 15 years. this man has put his kids through school, spade hammocks extremely well, done things for trump and trump has done things for him. there is a symbiosis in this
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relationship than the one we saw with michael cohen, and others. this goes to the money. this is the guy who was in the room when the money decisions are being made. i do not have a sense, again, i'm here in washington, not in new york. i'm following and covering this like everybody else. but my sense is, weisselberg is prepared to go to jail. trump knows that. weisselberg is prepared to repay that -- by taking this particular federal bullet, if you will. everyone needs to settle themselves down and think, oh hit because we have trump, know you and got him. the guy you think was going to hand over is not brutus. he's not judas. he's weisselberg. that is trump's guy. i don't think, at least my impression, from how i'm reading this, that he is prepared to do trump harm at
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this point. >> it is a sobering analysis, many people will be concerned about the implications but it's why we draw on our experts, especially now that this is absorbed for a day. i'm hearing from you michael and danya, i thank you for joining us, i want to tell everyone what else we have going on. first, a preview of this january six committee, speaker pelosi scoring a big win there. also special tonight, the special and famous malcolm gladwell is back, we're gonna get into it. and if that isn't enough, our friend, the well-known chef wolfgang puck is here life, we're talking food, restaurants and what it means to get back out there. stay with us. stay with us reason, or fun. daring,
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>> meanwhile, a top republican in the house, kevin mccarthy, opposing any probe. now clashing with cheney because she defied his warnings about anyone in the caucus joining the group. she says for her part she is honored to serve. adding what happened on january 6th can never happen again. those who are responsible for the attack need to be held accountable. and this is not just an exercise in assembling information. or going over these very disturbing videos, or other things that have emerged. this will be a subpoena backed operation. so, just like federal investigators are other investigatio you've heard us cover, this committee with subpoena power can get new materials, new information, and follow other leads apart from what is only allowed under the criminal standard by those pending doj probes. for more context, i'm joined by the new york times michelle goldberg. olson and this embassy. analysts hi, michelle. >> i, there.
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>> we'll put the members back up on the screen there. we had them briefly. folks are familiar with this type of thing from select committees in the past. or from impeachment. you've got people who know what they're doing. laughlin, skill in breast gator prosecutor. adam schiff, both part of the impeachment teams. raskin, many people familiar with these issues. cheney of course sends out for the reasons we mention. what do you see substantively here in what this peanut backed group can do? >> i think we saw in both of the impeachments how impeccably adam schiff and jamie raskin in particular were at building a case, and building a narrative and using multi media to explain something very complicated. and this case, what happened is not necessarily that complicated. what is going to be complicated is the legal process of getting people like kevin mccarthy to testify. subpoenaing possibly donald
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trump. right? getting at the responsibility of people at the highest level of public republican politics. which is why it is not at all surprising that people at the highest level of republican politics want to sabotage this commission in any way they can. commission in any way they can>. mccarthy fighting it tooth and nail. and then allegedly, reportedly, trying to use are some illegible use his powers to intimidate people out of what being a what is a lawful house select investigative committee. take a listen. >> i'm not making any threats about committees. as you know how congress works. if the person is republican, for some to accept committee assignments from speaker carlos e., that's unprecedented. i was shocked that she would step something from speaker pelosi. it would seem to me, since i didn't hear from her, maybe she's closer to her than us.
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i don't know. >> he doesn't know. i mean, this kind of theater is particularly silly or error symbol, given the public falling out they just had were they purged her. what do you make of this? >> there was some reporting in the newsletter that he's thinking of appointing various well-known trolls. jim jordan, elise slot nick, people who've been down for the maga narrative, to challenge the legitimacy of biden's election. so it's, not clear what they're going to boycott this committee. to actually think democrats should be hoping that he makes good on his threat. right? obviously they want to de-legitimize it and make it seem as if it's a purely partisan endeavor. but i think the only people who are really going to care about that are people who are already convinced that it is illegitimate. most people are going to be more interested and what they find than in who are the
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senators that make up this committee are. so, i think it will be a great thing for democrats if they are not interrupted by idiotic digressions by jim jordan, or attempts to blame this on antifa. or make it about problems with the capitol police. i think we should remember that this is going to be a years-long process. and even if people don't tune in every step of the way, we never know what can come out of something like this. right? a lot of people wrote off the benghazi hearings. the biggest stories we're in fact a ridiculous farce, but i can think you can make a good argument that without those hearings, which on earth here in the clinton's email server, the entire catastrophe of donald trump's presidency would have never happened. >> you know i have to say to that on this holiday friday michelle? >> was that? >> but her emails.
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[laughs] >> always good to see you. yeah, have a great holiday weekend. we have our shortest break right now. malcolm gladwell is here when we come back. you know when your dog is itching for a treat. itching for an outing... or itching for some cuddle time. but you may not know
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news because even before many americans tuned in over the past year to just how deep and pervasive structural racism issues are, you study that. you've written a lot about it. walk us through why you looked at that then and what you found. particularly some of your work about unconscious bias, talking with strangers, the way our minds work. >> yeah, i first brought about police shootings in my second book, blink. if you remember the case of amadou delano, who is a young african shot 41 times by nypd officers as he was reaching for his wallet to show them his i.d.. i think the simplest way to explain my -- what draws me to the subject is it is enormously complicated. i think we have to have an appreciation about a difficult how difficult police work is. i think if we start from that premise that is really hard to do well, that really does
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inform the kind of discussion that we have about how to make it better. >> unhook some of the moral judgment, although i think moral judgments apply, but you look at unhooking from that and say while you may have a mental error, it doesn't mean that your quote unquote a bad person. >> i think in instances that i was talking about in my last book talking to strangers, before the bomber mafia, i was focus on the case of sandra bland. the sequence of high-profile cases from a couple of years ago. it was one of those rare cases where you have the videotape, or the audiotape of the entire encounter. we can break down what happened with absolute precision. what it is isn't extraordinary
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complex slow unfolding exercise in misunderstanding on the part of the police officer. he keeps jumping to unwarranted conclusions, he keeps reading the signals that sandra bland is sending him wrong, and acting in ways that are unwarranted. he keeps rushing forward when he should be slowing down. when you look at that, first of all we have a renewed appreciation for the complexity of police work, but you also understand that man, this guy was a kid. he wasn't well trained enough, he wasn't experienced enough. he was just thrown out there. it goes to my feeling that we have not in this country taking the task of policing seriously enough. we don't understand that it is a profession that is as demanding as being a lawyer or a doctor. we need to train people the same way we train them for those professions.
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>> i mentioned your podcasts revisionist history, a lot of people feel like we're living through an attempt to revise history in realtime. viewers know about the republican party that have been lying about what happened in their own workplace, of congress on january 6th. what are your thoughts about all of that and are there any solutions? >> i think about the role of time. i wonder whether we're in too much of a hurry to pass judgment on the people who continue to lie about what happened on january 6th. there are many different forms that denials can take. one of the one's is, i really don't believe anything went wrong. the other one is i do believe something wrong went on but i and not ready to admit it yet.
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people just aren't ready to come clean and renounce a lot of what they were saying for the previous four years. we have to give them time. >> the book is the bomber mafia, tell us about it. >> it is this extraordinary story that i stumbled across that has been written in academic text but never for a popular audience about a group of pilots in alabama in the 1930s, who wanted to reinvent warfare. who thought that with the benefit of new technologies, they could render all forms of warm a king obsolete except for bombing. it's a story about what happens when ideals met the reality of warfare. first in europe and then heartbreakingly in japan in 1985. we did this audio book that has all the voices and brings to life the battles that were
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fought in the second world war. i'm really proud of this book. >> that's saying something because people know about your books, the fact that years were passionate about it over what might sound like a seemingly arcane element of that important period of history is fascinating. some people are slow but paradoxically malcolm your quite fast, you know what i mean? >> i don't know what you're referring to whether you're referring to my riding speed on my running speeds. >> i'm thinking specifically of your running. this is something that super fans of yours know about, and you recently ran a race where you were faster than some of the younger also able runners. let's take a look. >> i have to say i don't know about malcolm socks. i'm out. >> when your 57 you might be compression socks. >> malcolm is sitting on chris, the he's able to seize every
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move. malcolm's pulling away, gladwell has opened a gap. age defeats beauty. malcolm is the one to take it in 5:15. >> i don't know that this will be the most significant question i have for you tonight, but at a time where all of us have struggled in quarantine and put on some pounds here and there, let's go us weekly, what are you doing to stay so fit? >> well, i took the opportunity of covid to do long running. i got myself even a coach which i haven't had in 40 years and i return to racing. as you've just seen, with some quite encouraging results. so yes, i made good use of the downtown of the last 18 months. >> it's great, that caught our eye and bus one more stereotype that book worms can't be
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athletic, vice versa and everyone in between. welcome gladwell, great to have you back on the beat, again. i hope everyone goes and checks out the bomber mafia, it's out now. and from book worms to cookbooks wolfgang one puck of the most famous restaurant years and chefs in the world is here next. re next.
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the holiday weekend and many more people will be able to do something they haven't done over the past year, go out to dinner. hiring restaurants and bars is driving a job surge as mae version of semi normal. our next jeff is the perfect person to talk about, it wolfgang puck is one of the most famous chefs and restaurateurs in the world. he has a star on the hollywood walk of fame. eat your heart out, other chefs. that's an eating pun. he's also the subject of a new documentary, wolfgang. >> at my age everyone says wolfgang slow down, and take it easy. but it is quite the opposite. >> he's serving the simple food that's incredibly flavorful. >> choice one, two and three was impeccable. >> everything was a huge success. >> wolf gang doesn't have it, maybe that's why he still added.
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>> the shelf wolfgang puck is back here, now it is just wolfgang. >> thank you so much, because puck it's too complicated and it might be misspelled so wolfgang is enough. >> what can you do. we're thrilled to have you, we cover a lot of different things on this program, we're all going into the holidays and thinking about restaurants. but you're also in the intersection of culture. a good restaurant in a good community is part of the local community culture. what was it like going through to the pandemic and where you going now? >> it was very difficult to close the restaurant. we had so many people out of work. not knowing when it was going to end, that was the most difficult thing. we couldn't see the light at the end of the tunnel. now it is really exciting to be back, most of the restaurants are doing well. las vegas is on fire, most of
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them are doing better than ever before. beverly hills, they're all really ramping up and doing well. we're excited. now we cannot find enough staff to open fully. for example, in beverly hills, i cannot open for lunch because i don't have enough waders and chefs. many chefs went to work for private people at home and get paid maybe more, but work less. >> you mentioned spa go, i had the chance to eat there it is excellent, i only have one issue with it, you know it is? >> you tell me. >> it's very expensive. >> oh come on, you guys on your network are paid so much money. >> but it is very expensive. i'm right or die frugal.
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the food is excellent, you get a rebuttal on the beat. >> if you want to buy a mercedes or you want to buy a cadillac, cost over $80,000. but it's a good car. i think it is the same thing with the quality of our restaurants. if you want a pizza with smoke salmon, we make it and it cannot cost $5. it is expensive. whatever we do, we have to stay in business and you know it is actually the chief restaurant like the chain restaurants that make more money than the upscale restaurants. because our investment is really high and the demand is very low. it's very difficult, you know what i'm the most proud of, it's that it is open for 40 years and doing better than ever. now the same thing with the other restaurant, it's been open for 30 years. longevity in anything is
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amazing, just like a tv show. if you're on a tv show 40 years for now, then you can say it's a big success. >> my last question to you is is there anything coming out of the pandemic that was possibly good or make you think a new or change the way you work with your team, at your restaurants? >> out of every problem that comes, something positive can come. now we're learning how to operate better, how to operate with less and actually we may be able to get more in the bottom line. one of the things i learned, is to put some reserves away in case something happens. we can help our employees. we can help people who don't have the money. be sure that the employees get good health insurance because this has shown, if you don't have good insurance if something happens to you you can be in the richest country in the world but you're gonna
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have problems going to the right hospital and getting the right health care. >> i think that's all sound advice and you've provided so many experiences and memories for so many people, i love what you do. you employ a lot of people who i know you love about. i hope you come back wolfgang, maybe will do -- you can go check out " wolfgang " on disney plus, thank you sir. >> thank you, good to talk to you and remember i give you 50% next time. >> i'm not asking for a discount, although i will probably take one. but i have to be transparent. thank you wolfgang. we're gonna fit in a break and then we have a true innovator the founder of 23andme, which brings up this iconic larry davis scene from " finding your roots ". >> are you telling me that my great grandfather's fought for
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the south in the civil war? >> what? >> you did it, you did it. i knew it. i knew it. unbelievable. >> this is a special day on the beat, we will explore all of that with an expert, next. expert, next.
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find long lost relatives. now tonight, we turn to a new interview airing for the first time the tech veteran analyzing how the internet and other media can feed misinformation about everything from politics, to vaccines. >> i think health care, health care in many ways the original fake news. if you look at the twenties and i love reading newspaper articles, frankly, customers -- people today, they are not taught about how to think about science. how to judge appropriately. i think we've done a real disservice over the years of having this white coat mentality where you have a degree, and you have a look and it implies that only you can understand, or only that white coat can understand.
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i think that this country really needs to invest in scientific education. people are so confused about vaccines and autism, when it's been refuted so many times how safe those vaccines are and that they are not associated with autism. so, i argue, mostly, that we need to have scientific education so that people know how to make decisions and i think that when i look at those numbers about vaccine hesitancy today, to me, that is illustrative of a lack of scientific knowledge and a lack of trust. we trust of the health care system. >> there is there her -- this skepticism, well-known and documented. on the flip side there is something really interesting about who people trust. if you pull people on the most
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trustworthy sources of information they have, way above news media, or other factual sources, the top three sources people trust the most are, dr. fauci, their pastor or faith leader, and the number one above all their personal doctor. i'm curious what you think three gives me a lot of confidence in people. again, i do think that he is phenomenal. i don't know -- there are parts of me that i believe -- i question it. most people today don't necessarily have a one-on-one relationship with their physician. in some ways i look at the fact that people don't necessarily trust vaccines with the fact that people are saying that they do trust their doctors. there is a disconnect here. >> yeah. >> and i do think that there is an opportunity to almost start
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a new. >> the google veteran of 23andme seems constitutionally committed to thinking a new, which also informed what was once a controversial idea about giving people direct information on your industry. >> i've always thought about genetics holistically. i think one of the most beautiful things about genetics is that it connects us to all life on the planet. so not just our human counterparts but all life, all of us have the exact same building blocks. i think, especially in this day and age, of all the strife that we've had over the last year and again all those emotions. helping people realize how much we have different life experiences but we have the same fundamental ingredients. the >> were looking at this
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with all the different ways of people learn about their family trees and their roots, and i want to play a little bit from the andrew series, where larry david has this unbelievable reaction to what he gets to learn. take a look. >> the plot twists so absurd, it seemed like something larry david himself might have dreamed of. >> are you telling me that my great-grandfather fought for the south in the civil war? what? are you getting? i hope they show up on -- >> please turn the page. larry, this is another part -- >> oh, you did it. you did it. i knew it. i knew it. unbelievable. the name of the slave owner, my grave grandfather was a slave owner. >> his reaction is very curved, what are people supposed to do
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when as he learned in that moment something that he had never known about his ancestors, and in this case, something horrific. but that he also has that all hall of learning something. >> to be honest the one thing i've learned when we started this company, we thought wouldn't it be amazing if one day we connected a family, or reunited siblings. now we see it almost on a daily basis. it's something, i think it's an experiment that every single one of our customers will go through, there is something -- there is a surprise in there. almost for everybody. your past -- the history that you have is not always accurate. and i think that there is a lot for people to learn. what you do with that knowledge is hopefully it expands your
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mind to be more inclusive and more open minded's and strive to be better, based on all the information that you've learned. one thing that i do love, i love the ancestry product that we have. people see the genetic and formation and all different parts of the world that comes from. i find that people tends to look at themselves in the specific silo. you realize that you have all kinds of connections that you did not know about and i hope for people that it gives them more empathy and humility and connectedness to all these other communities that are learning about it as well. >> in this new summit series, we're just hearing parts of it, we tackled some other topics. here are the final highlights. >> are people more interested in their past, or in the future. >> i think people want to learn
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from the past and they want to have a better future. when you ask people who like the health care system as it is? no one has ever raised their hand. this is going to be a 20, 30 year journey of changing your behavior and being proactive in exercising and thinking about how the eat. do you want to be thriving, like thrive at 100? >> or keep it 100, as the kids say. would you do anything differently or was it necessary to disrupt an entire industry? >> the world changes because of people, massive societal change is 100 percent possible. it comes because you. >> highlights from a new interview with the 23andme founder, she's one of the most important people in tech. all part of our ongoing beats summits series with leaders at the summit of their field. you can watch the entire conversation, just go right now to our beat with our we twitter page it's the top link or go to youtube and search melber and
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23andme on youtube and you'll find the whole thing. there's a lot more of the interview. as i've mentioned if you have ideas for other leaders that we should have on in this summit series with these in-depth interviews, send them over and go on any social media at ari melber or go to ww ari melber .com where you can connect with me. one more thing. many americans will also not only go to restaurants but also hit the movies for the first time in a while. lynn manuel miranda's in the heights movie is one of the options. we recently sat down and talked with one of the film stars, joshua pathankot. >> i think it is so important to have a movie to come back. it is a celebratory joyous, it's about dreams. it is about unity. it's about community, inspiration. there are so many uplifting things evoked through the strict screen. the film is such a weak universal languish i we can all
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connect to, dreams, a sense of belonging. we all have dreams, we all want to be empowered, we want to be proud of where we come from. i think that's what lin-manuel did within the heights. >> that's one of the themes of in the heights as you look at your summer plans. now we're going to break but i am with you live for the next hour. at 7 pm eastern hour. we've got love more including a trump insider speaking out for the first time here with us on those new indictments. it's the number one doctor recommended brand that is scientifically designed to help manage your blood sugar. live every moment. glucerna.
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