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all the way to the end. as we all have. sorry for your community suffering and what this means for the people there. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you lawrence, stick with us. we will need you every step of the way. >> thank you very much. that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. williams starts now. this is day 163 of the biden administration, big trouble tonight in the form of criminal charges however. for donald trump's family and the head of his finances. prosecutors for the men handing that -- they can use them running a 15-year scheme to avoid them from paying taxes and defrauding federal new york state, and new york city tax authorities. the indictment says 73 year old
cfo allen weisselberg was one of those executives. he is charged with grand larceny, tax fraud, after being accused of dodging taxes on one point $7 million in parts that should've been reported as income. those port -- perks include red luxury cars, private school tuition for family members as well. weisselberg surrendered to authorities earlier this morning, then came the walk as he was marched in handcuffs to his booking appearance where he was ordered to surrender his passport, where he pleaded not guilty. reports indicate he is so far resisted to cooperate with investigators. michael cohen, who is cooperating in this investigation pointed out that, today's ex grow shading public experience might push weisselberg to start talking. >> i can tell you that the feel of the handcuffs behind your back, it's not comfortable. nor is it sitting there and having your photograph taken. allen could be a tough guy for
donald, which is what we all want him to be, but that's when you're being investigated. >> this 15 counting bitumen also noted the chalk organization kept a spreadsheet to talk about weisselberg's expensive -- >> they say the case is politically motivated. >> these charges are unprecedented. and 244 years, we have not had a local prosecutor go after a former president of the united states, or his employees, or his company. i believe the political forces driving today's events, are just that. it's politically driven. if the name of the company was something else, i don't think these charges would've been brought. >> as to the man whose name is over the door, the ex president, he struck -- step to his usual messaging today calling the charges a
witch hunt and blaming radical left prosecutors. as all this unfolded in new york, there are significant movement on capitol hill towards creating a select house committee to investigate the january 6th insurrection. eight lawmakers served on the committee. one of them happens to be a republican, congressman liz cheney to be one of only two republicans who voted for the committee to investigate the. riot this afternoon, congresswoman cheney was asked about reports that republican leader kevin mccarthy warned republicans they could lose their committee assignments if they accepted an appointment to the committee. >> it's clear to all the people on this committee, that our oath to the constitution, our duty, our dedication to the law and peace of power hasn't come
above any concern of partisanship. partisanship i think the committee do decide towards the investigation. what i know, it will be thorough, it will be professional, it will be serious, and not partisan. >> by the way, and importantly, this committee will have power to subpoena, witnesses. the house reporting -- now sleet or is questioning her loyalty to the party. >> i was shocked that she would accept something from speaker pelosi. it would seem to me, and since i didn't hear from her maybe it's true she's closer to her than us. >> we are also following the reacting to a major supreme court ruling today on voting rights. today, the court upheld arizona voting restrictions that a lower court said discriminated against minority lord or --
leaders. we will have more on. this has been a week since the collapse of the condo building in surfside florida. such a sad scene there. rescues resume their search efforts after a nearly 15-hour work stoppage. that happened this morning, and of concern that the rest of the building could fall down. 18 people have died, as many as 145 souls remain on the list of missing. president biden, first lady jill biden, they travel to surfside today and spent three hours in a private meeting with loved ones. they also met with the first responders, thank them for the tireless efforts. toughest parties comforting the family who have no answers. their loved ones uncounted for. >> jill and i wanted you to know that we are with them. the country is with them. our message today is that we are here for you, as one nation, as one nation.
with that, let's bring in our league in guests on that. peter baker, the veteran journalist and author. he's chief white house correspondent for the new york times. daniel goldman, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. also happen to serve as general counsel for the house intelligence committee during the first trump impeachment. and former u.s. attorney joyce vance, a 25 year veteran of the federal prosecutor. also one of the cohost of the pot -- pod casts sister in law. good evening, welcome to you. daniel, i want to begin with you. earlier today you said the indictment was detailed, and that it was powerful. for the folks at home, why did they need to know about the indictment? >> this indictment outlines a 15-year scheme to effectively
pay ellen weisselberg, and others, off the books through very sort of brazen and blatant ways. by creating, effectively, separate. books allen weisselberg sign checks on behalf of the trump organization that paid for his rent, his car, that pay for his children's tuition, and it was all documented within the trump organization because, it all went towards his overall salary, but it allowed him to avoid paying income taxes, and allow the trump organization to reduce its tax requirements. from a very technical perspective, it is clear that the manhattan da's office has overwhelming evidence, documentary ever in evidence -- they're clearly in possession of a number of tax records, and documents, including the spreadsheet. so, if we are going to focus
narrowly on the charges in this indictment, the manhattan da's office has the goods, and it appears as though it's a very strong case. >> joyce vance, you know, attention spans being what they are in the stage for people want to cut to the chase, and get a preview, please preview what kinds of penalties weisselberg and the company that large, are looking at, if convicted? >> sure. so, the company obviously can't go to prison so we are talking about fines in that scenario. ultimately, perhaps, if the new york attorney general has appetite to do it, she can go after the company using some new york's sky laws organ -- that they operate with the significant power of fraud is west sanctions. everyone sees there is a strong
case against weisselberg. everyone sees this is not an indictment that can reach the former president, they apparently don't have proof of his intent, or knowledge of the schemes. the question is, is there something here that would cause weisselberg to flip, and to cooperate down the road? the reality is, sentencing here is likely in low single digits, something that weisselberg would've been aware of going into it. as michael cohen says sometimes the feeling of the handcuffs can cost to the change. certainly, when people feel their family -- as was the case with michael cohen, just a mounting pressure of legal bills and paying back taxes can cause weisselberg to ultimately flip. we don't know how far this goes after weisselberg incorporation. >> peter baker, how show --
a lot of folks chose to talk about a coconspirator, but we're all left with that mystery. bottom line, donald trump himself has not been charged. can you give us some idea of what this might mean for donald trump himself? >> we should start by remembering just tell unique this event is. it's not just one company the president was involved with. it's his entire career. family, there's no border. this is the trump family. he himself is not indicted, the trump organization a's very tightly associated with the former president himself. that's a nine usual situation in american history how the former president of the united states indicted through his company, and called a criminal
organization. we did not lose sight of that. there's a political angle here. you could already see it. the republicans are saying, this is more prosecution. its democrats coming after us. and you are extended tierney general with the manhattan da has said vocally in her campaigns that she wanted to go after trump. you heard donald trump junior on fox tonight compare this, if you can believe, to putin jailing the alexei navalny. a weird connection given trump's friendship with putin. -- did not go after him. wonder where accountability will be. whether a financial charge gets to the crux of what they want to see the former president scrutinized for. there's a political element here. will it change anyone's mind about this? hard to say. the issues but they're --
then out there for a while. people factor in their equations and their views of the president. of course we will hear a lot more about it in the coming days. >> so daniel goldman, given your experience, take us behind the scenes. ellen weisselberg is alone with his thoughts. one happened starting tonight? one happened starting over the holiday weekend? if there were a mob movie made about this, i would be compelled to ask. is there anything barring dumb nor trump and weisselberg for being in touch either tele--- -less or anything barring a third party from transmitting a message to weisselberg? >> only in the laws against obstruction of justice. it would bar donald trump from trying to influence weisselberg one way or another. this was not a surprise to allen weisselberg. the da's office wanted haze
cooperation and targeted him oppose the linchpin of the trump organization, as the individual who would know the most about the finances, and most likely to say whether trump or his children were involved in this scheme, or some of the other fraud allegations they have been investigating. this isn't new today to allen weisselberg. when he goes to sleep tonight he will say, okay, i call their bluff. they threatened they were gonna charge me if i didn't cooperate. they chose -- i chose not to cooperate, this is where i will be. let's see how this plays out. what's weisselberg is banking on, because new york state sensing -- for white collar cases are relatively lenient, he's not likely to face that much jail time. i think you will wait to see the evidence that the prosecutors have, which they have to turn over within 45
days. then he will start to make some decisions as to why he wants to do. motions he wants to file, or whether he wants to try to work out the guilty plea short of cooperation, or perhaps, if he wants to cooperate. given that he had the opportunity to cooperate any likely knew he was facing and chose not to, i don't think the handcuffs today, or tonight, when he goes to sleep, knowing he's been arrested, i don't think it will change his calculus. if there was additional witnesses and charges, that would combined with prison time, that's what prosecutor has against the defendant to get them to cooperate. >> interesting. joyce vance, i want to redo a quote from one of our favorite writers, susan glasser of the new yorker who peter baker knows well mostly because they are a married couple. she writes, --
. joyce, susan there is describing a group that resembles our viewing tonight. what is the chance that this event could lead to consequences for mr. trump? >> i think we're in a tough spot to evaluate that, brian. i think susan makes a really important point. for one thing, there will be an extraordinarily low above confidence in our justice system if there is never accountability for the former president who engaged in so much wrongdoing in plain sight in only seem to have issues which kept him from having
consequences. he never was really held accountable. that is in large part because he spent the last four years shielded by the presidency. now that the protection has slipped away, he becomes increasingly vulnerable. there is this case, proceedings down in georgia perhaps, involving the call he made soliciting election fraud in georgia. it is a real issue whether there will be that one big moment or not. the thought that i will leave you with in that regard, is we saw something last week from trump's lawyers that we have seen before. during the mueller report, we saw this effort to say, obstruction of justice is not an important crime. it's just a process crime. he remember that, right? obstruction is not important. last week, we heard trump lawyer saying, this is just fringe benefits stuff. nobody gets charged for fringe benefits. it's not important. now, it turns out we can see this indictment, and we understand this is not just fringe benefits, brian.
this is a definitive pattern over 15 years of engaging in tax evasion schemes. for one thing, taking peoples direct compensation, instead of paying them with a check for giving them apartments, cars, other sorts of benefits. they cheated on their taxes to avoid doing that. you get what's wrong with that is a business owner. you don't get to have your of house paid for by your business then claim it as a taxed does action. what's the namesake company was doing is a pattern no fraud, a pattern of cheating. he should be prosecuted where the newer journal -- put on evidence that is a come up of some sort by the former president ultimately. >> spoken like a former fed. tonight's last word goes to peter baker. the other great writer in the two great wired or household. peter, you covered donald trump
for a long time. what are people about to learn about how the trump business was around? where they will see obvious, an immediate, parallels to have the trump -- was run. >> i think there has been a long history here. it was examined before the 2016 election. it's a business that's been successful, but in many ways it cut corners. it's a president who didn't pay his contractors, he was sued thousands of times by people who said he owed them money. they went bankrupt repeatedly, and he boasted when he went bankrupt in atlantic city where his casinos were, and he came out of that with a lot of money.
they got hold of his tax returns that he tried to keep from the public, and discovered a pattern of reporting that it looks like evasion of taxes, at the very least, or perhaps even something illegal, depending on how lawyers interpret it. long before today, we already knew this was a business on the edge, at the very least. there's a more tangible, concrete evidence of that. the rules don't apply. the rules that apply to other businesses, they were not taken seriously in the last two years for this instance, and the person who went on to become our president. one it will lead to for trump down the line is the question. the story is not ended. >> we are indebted to these three terrific guests on a thursday night. all friends of this broadcast
for explaining everything for us in great detail tonight. peter baker, daniel goldman, joyce vance, our thanks. coming up for us, the man who was formerly the nation's lead lawyer before the u.s. supreme court, neil cokie all standing by to weigh in on what the court decision is for the future voting rights. later, why kevin mccarthy is not happy about a member of his own party joining the committee that is going to invest -- investigate january 6th. all of it as the 11th hour is just getting underway. ting underway.
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iceberg when it comes to the multitude of illegalities that the district attorney is currently looking at. i think it is wrong of us to presume, for a moment, that this is it. this isn't the big surprise. hey everybody, look, we will get allen weisselberg. it's not allen weisselberg they are looking for. >> interesting point there, that prediction tonight from former trump organization employee, and former trump personal lawyer, michael cohen. as we mentioned, the trump organization and it cfo have pleaded not guilty today to tax charges. back with us is neil conte all department of justice, former acting solicitor during the obama administration who has argued cases before the supreme court. well let's talk about the chump matter with that prime diction
michael cohen just made, what do you think it comes down to? >> i think michael cohen is absolutely right. the prosecutors here are looking for something bigger than just. this once we left and people don't talk about in the discord, these charges are against the trump organization where donald trump run as the president, brandon and his name. they are not minor charges. they allege about 1 million dollars in taxes not being. paid it's like 1 million dollar highs. the justice department does do a 15-minute google surged. you will see the justice department puts people in jail for five years for that. it's mine, or in something that's being used as leverage probably, to try and get allen weisselberg to flip. it should go without saying, today it, donald trump's business was labeled a criminal organization, essentially. >> want to pivot to the supreme
court today, the decision upholding voting restrictions in arizona. it came down along party lines, i know it's just -- undignified to use party lines one referring to the supreme court, but we all seen the confirmation hearings and people are not stupid, and know the score on the court. here is kagan from her descend. justin kagan writes in part, what's tragic is the court has, yet again rewritten. ,,, why, neal did the court do for the voting rights act, and -- societal problems than issues, especially where peoples rights are concerned. i guess, nodding this case. >> yeah, they profoundly
undermined the voting rights act. this law has been around since 1965, before i was born, it had two big provisions in. at one was called section five, and said, if you are a state that discriminates then you have to change, and you are trying to g -- changer voting rules. we have to get it pre cleared by a court in washington d.c. with the justice department and they argue that case in 2010 in the court upheld that constitution. that section of the voting rights act, only a few years later to reverse course in a case called shelby county, and strike it down. that was the first big assault on the voting rights act by the u.s. supreme court. today unfortunately is the second they reached section two of the voting rights act which is a section that allows people to sue if they find a voting practice that is discriminatory. when the supreme court said to say, and justin kagan is upset about, just -- they used language trying to
expand access to the ballot. here you've got the majority of the supreme court, six justices saying you gotta read it more narrowly, and effectively undoing much more of what the provision is about. >> final question, where do you look as a remedy if we can agree that anything less than making sure all barriers are cleared, making sure all americans can vote, where do you look for a remedy to all the state laws being passed? >> how our founders basically put congress in the driver seat. it could take long after the 15th amendment which guarantees the right to vote to give congress specific power to enforce that by appropriate legislation. the voting rights act was most recently reauthorized in 2006, with the foreign 21 voted to pass a 99 to 0 vote in the senate. this is the essence of what america is. right now, bills are pending on the floor, like the john lewis
voting right after in hr1 and different -- whatever it, is there is a bunch of different bills out there that would solve this problem. right now we've got to do something. there is an president assault on taking place in this country with dozens of laws passed just since the election to restrict peoples right to vote. brian, i look to congress. they have got to do it. >> 98 zero vote in the u.s. senate, that i would like to see in the year 2021. neil, thank you for being our guests and taking our questions tonight. coming up, one republican member of congress, the colorful reaction he had to a warning from his party's leader about the one six committee, when we come back. >> we come back. >>
the decision to name republican liz cheney, to the house one six commission, has the minority leader in something of a spot. this morning, punchbowl news, they cover the hail, reported that kevin mccarthy would warn, quote, if any republican accepts anna -- another gop house member, and kinzinger, was unimpressed telling people quote
there is -- you can fill in the blank. we welcome back to the broadcast, michael steele, former chairman of the great state of maryland also the host of the michael steele podcast and the hat wearing, truth talking, marc mackinnon. adviser to george w. bush and the core hull -- cohost, and the star of circus. here is mr. mccarthy who once said, in the well of the house, on live television, we have the tape of it that trump should bear responsibility, and now they want us to forget that. i guess he thinks for stupid. want to see so scared of, right now? >> you have to realize, his ultimate goal is to be speaker in 2022 for the republican state of the house. he is scared of donald trump ultimately, and the political
power he still retains. when this commission was initially proposed, republicans said, we don't want to partisan commission. we demand the following things including, the power to equal presentation on the committee and to subpoena witnesses. the democrats say, and you could have all the things you asked for, and the republican said, no thank you. now, what they are getting, is a committee that would have subpoena power, over which they have no say. they will regret this at the end of the day. they actually should be happy they have someone like liz cheney on their, who is doing her constitutional duty and putting the law and her country first. i think she would draw the line and some really partisan behavior, that could be going on the subpoena process. >> let me ask a quick follow-up. published cheney, and the aforementioned king zinger are the republicans that get democrats all excited, and fill
them with hope. often leading to a conclusion of disappointment. did they still manage your working definition mark, in the year 2021, of republicans? >> there is not many people that meet my definition of what a republican is. i am a compassionate conservative that was drawn in by george w. bush. looks to me that there are two members of the republican party that near my kind of politics, that's kinzinger and liz cheney. they were the only two voted for the commission. that tells you where the republican party areas, i believe that thank god for cheney and kings in your for hanging in there and ringing the bell. we >> have another republican here. mr. chairman, mr. lieutenant government, i have a running for you from the op-ed in the washington post. mr. boot writes.
michael, a question i asked tuned various forms, no fewer than 25 times over the past several months, can anything shake the party out of this flat or three mindset? >> not at this time. it is sobering, disappointing, it's hard even to acknowledge that. not at this time. to mark's point, they fear donald trump, and trump-ism, probably more trumpism, then that mob that came banging on the doors looking for the head of the vice president, seeking their own blood. so, for a lot of americans, now
it becomes a very sobering period of reflection. as the process of the one six commission gets underway, and i agree with you brian, that liz cheney will play a number of rules on that commission, the least of which will be to make sure it is honest in its deliberation and assessment, and its efforts to get to the bottom line. it also affords the american people a chance to evaluate going into the upcoming elections this fall, and next year. do we really want these guys running th country? do we really want kevin mccarthy to be the speaker of the house, after what we've witnessed of his leadership? excuse me, of his actions. baby, that ain't leadership. do we really want the thankless
nurse of republican senate, they can even honor its own words, its own response to the one sixth event. i think it's a sobering moment for a lot of americans right now. we as citizens need to get serious about that business. right now, the calculation on the republican side is, we've got, this baby. you are not gonna stop it. we have the house next year. the numbers work for us. voters still have to vote. you still have to account for what you did, and failed to do, over the course of the last year. sobering is the word for me at this moment. it's an important time for us to reflect on exactly what kind of leadership we want, going forward. >> voters have a funny way of making up their own minds, provided they could get to the polls, they are free to vote and they have that water well in line.
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doing what needs to be done, it really makes a difference. >> thank you mister president. you recognize the severity of this tragedy from day one and you've been very supportive. >> imagine that, a rare show of unity during a tragedy and star contract to recent years past as michael steele astutely observed quote, careful governor i know someone who won't like this hashtag gratitude. one michael steele and one marc
mackinnon remain with us. michael, indeed, it reminded a lot of folks especially in this part of the world, chris christy, his state decimated by hurricane sandy made the fatal political era of hugging a democratic president by way of thanking him for visiting and surveying the damage and got dragged for it like it was something awful. there was a ton of social media traffic today, so much for dissented's 2024. can he only run if he gets permission from mr. trump? >> yeah, tell me how the equation changes unless he's able to change that equation. some of the polling, some of the preference pulling if you will among active republicans especially trump republicans shows ron desantis has carved out a nice niche for himself and is making the most of it. he showing this bravado and
leadership of his state, he's very popular in his state. i think that there's a dynamic here since trump is a resident of the governor's state, which is just rich. it's just so rich to watch him sitting there with joe biden to his left and then thank you mister president. there is no bureaucracy, this is working, you are responding to our needs and then people are having flashbacks and images of the president throwing paper towels and toilet paper at those who were devastated by violent hurricanes a few years ago. so there is this interesting contrast that i think ron desantis is playing a little bit and so kudos, baby, half and with it. guess what? when the shoe drops, it's probably gonna land on your head. >> mark mckenna, and same question, niki hayley is also on this list someone who would
like to be president but has fallen all over herself preemptively with trump looming in the background. there's a long list of people who want the job and one guy they feel they have to go through to get it. >> well this is a fascinating dynamic with ron desantis and trump, he argued that he owes his election to donald trump. i mean, he hugged his need as hard as he could to get in commercials with his kids building the wall. but the interesting dynamic is that there's a lot of preference poll, as michael was pointing out, that have ron desantis on top, and you know it has to be driving trump crazy. but republicans who know the future think that ron desantis is a much better version of trump. he has the feistiness, but he thinks he's trump with brain, with empathy. it's more of a guy who can govern. what we saw on the stage today
it could be two guys running together on 2024. >> what a scenario you lay out for us. gentlemen, by way of thanking you for coming on tonight, allow me to wish you both a safe, vaccinated celebration of independence day, our holiday weekend. we thank you as always for coming on and taking our questions. michael steele, marc mackinnon have been our guest tonight. coming up for us after another break. sadly the numbers in this country are beginning to conform the fears about this covid variant. it is now surging in other parts of the world and the concern is for the unboxing aid across the us. across the us.
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suddenly upon us and for all the millions of americans who are so eager, with good reason, to celebrate a 4th of july weekend, like we used to, pre-pandemic style. for the president, there is likely some disappointment as we are going to miss his target of having 70% of adults in our country vaccinated fully by this weekend. and it is a public health issue because of the spread of this delta variant, among the vaccinated. our report on all of it from nbc news correspondent tom costello. >> after months of progress and dramatically slowing the spread of covid. tonight signs of trouble. the cdc reports a 10% increase in new cases in just one week. 25% of those linked to the new delta variant which the cdc director says it's highly transmissible and will soon be the dominant variant. >> it is clear that communities where people remain unvaccinated are communities
that remain vulnerable. >> while 67% of americans 18 and over have now received at least one shot, many states in the south and midwest are well below that mark. those with the lowest vaccination rates, after below 50%, alabama, wyoming, the virgin islands, louisiana at 48% and mississippi edges 46%. and in thousand counties where the covid variant is spreading vaccination rates are under 30%. 43-year-old joshua's decision not to get vaccinated nearly killed him. a diabetic he soon contracted covid, was rushed to a hospital in houston and eventually required a double lung transplant to save his life. >> it is the worst decision i've ever made in my life. i had to say goodbye to my parents my family my son, that is something that you never should have to do. >> he was released after nearly four months in the hospital. the cdc reports 99.5% of all
covid-19 deaths involve people who have not been vaccinated. >> the scientists clear, the best way to protect yourself against the virus and its variance is to be fully vaccinated. vaccination rates are especially low among 18 to 26-year-old. a very big reason so many colleges are requiring students get the shot. >> tom costello our thanks for that report tonight and again it turns out not getting vaccinated brings consequences. coming up for us. this statue was unveiled in the uk today. the news had to do with the two men who did the unveiling. d the unveiling.
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tonight is easily the most scrutinized piece of video in the world today. the scene in england this morning that turned the whole world briefly into of, wanting to see what it was like, the dynamic when william and harry were together and on public view in front of the cameras for saw them occasion, the unveiling of a statuef their mother on what would've been diana's fifth 60th birthday. this is what it looked like as they entered, one of them the air to the throne, the other set apart now living his life
in california with his new and very american family, all but cut off entirely by choice, from the royal family he was born into. as you watch, will read you the new york times account of the day quote, bonded by childhood grief, sauntered by adult call role, they both came together briefly for garden at kings palace, they set aside the anguish and angry denials of racism and callous treatments to pay treatment to the sudden death of this woman ended her own turbulent history and the royal family. he goes on to say but this was no cathartic reconciliation, william and harry by all accounts are still not on speaking terms, he says that he is still deeply agree that his brother, for series of
interviews in which he and his wife described royal life as a gilded prison and set family members set retrograde views on mental health and racial issues. after the 30 minute ceremony was all over, he made his way to heathrow to fly west all the way west in this case to his new home in california. he left behind the kingdom of his birth, presided over by his grandmother until it gets passed to his father, it's way too early to know if all this hurt will in the end help to somehow modernize with so many people see as a hide bound, and anachronistic institution, one that is still though the subject of so much interest and curiosity around our world. that is our broadcast on this thursday night with our thanks for being here with us and our very best for safe holiday weekend. on behalf of all our colleagues at the network of nbc news,
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