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stephanie ruhle picks up our coverage right now. hi there, i'm stephanie ruhle live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. it is friday, june 19. leet get smarter. tomorrow it is one step forward, one step back in congress as lawmakers struggle to advance president biden's agenda. democratic senator joe manchin is once again in the spotlight, floating a compromise as the senate gets ready to take up legislation next week. but republicans, they say it is still a non-starter. while on infrastructure, there are multiple plans out there. a trillion dollars on the low end, 6 trillion on the high end. but it is not clear if either has enough votes to pass. and on police reform, republicans are the ones compromising on a very key issue, whether police can be criminally charged for things like theft and sexual assault. so is that the compromise that
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paves the way to an actual bill? let's dig deeper on all of this. i want to bring in nbc's national reporter sahil kippur, and moderator for washington week on pbs, it's friday so you better tune in. sahil, let's talk about voting rights. talk to us about joe manchin's compromise and whether it actually changes the prospects of something getting done here. >> reporter: that's right, steph crucial offer, because if they can get that, they can say they're united and force a conversation about whether more is an option. they need 60 votes to move forward. they don't have any hope of getting meaningful republican
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support to advance this bill. the senate is likely to vote on tuesday. there are multiple things that manchin said that offered democratic support, including making election day a national holiday guaranteeing 15 days of national voting. even a push for some i.d. rules was pushed by warnock if it is designed in a way to not be restrictive or oppressive. a significant move, but democrats are still a long way out to pass this bill. it's going to come down to the filibuster. >> let's stay on this and talk republicans. on one level you do have a bunch of democrats willing to sign on to manchin's proposal, and to sahil's point, stacey abrams is on board, but as soon as she got on board, it seemed like republicans latched onto just that as a reason to go against it. watch this. >> is that a compromise you could support? >> absolutely. what senator manchin is putting
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forward are some basic building blocks that we need to ensure that democracy is accessible no matter your geography. >> i think every one of us looks for opportunities to work with senator manchin. we found those opportunities. i actually think when stacey abrams immediately endorsed senator manchin's proposal, it became the stacey abrams substitute, not the joe manchin substitute. >> but here's what i don't get. manchin's compromise very clearly mandates things like voter i.d., which is what republicans have been calling for from the beginning. the actual content is what republicans like. is this just stacey abrams, that's what they don't? yamiche? >> one, thank you for having me. i think it's one of those things where, when you hear from stacey abrams, you have republicans ready to run when they hear her
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because they know she is the one that delivered georgia, she is the one that called out voting rights and voter suppression. so it's really tough because the moment you get bipartisanship and the people who are focused on voting in the democratic party, chief among them stacey abrams, republicans are looking at their elections and looking at 2022 and saying, we can't tie onto anything that this woman, this very visible african-american woman, have really shaken up the map on when you look at blue and red states, we don't want to do anything that she's a part of. i think that in some ways underlines the idea that they are saying in some ways republicans are wasting our time and we should be moving forward as democrats. every time we get close to a deal, this happens. >> or lawmakers in general are wasting their time, because they're doing something we do in our personal lives every day, and that's compromise. let's talk about infrastructure. the way i see it, if democrats
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go way big, they're going to lose absolutely all republicans, and they're going to lose some moderate democrats. but if they go for a smaller bipartisan deal which is what the president has said all along he wants, they could get some republicans but they could lose progressives. is there any chance they'll be able to thread this needle? >> the way the white house has been looking at this all along, according to people involved in this process, is a two-piece process. let's see how much we can get into a bipartisan package, and everything left over, let's see how much of that we can get into a reconciliation bill. there's never been an expectation that either in the single infrastructure bill or the reconciliation bill that it would include all their hopes and dreams. this $6 trillion number, there's not been an expectation for that. there's never really been an expectation that they would be able to get the $4 trillion the
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president has put on the table. the path forward right now does clearly seem to be trying to get 60 votes for an infrastructure bill. if they can get those, then they need to move on to a reconciliation bill that has to be 50 votes and it has to, once again, pass the joe manchin/kyrsten sinema test which they need more numbers in the senate if they want to get through some of these big items that they want, and that's just the reality of it at this point. >> but yamiche, what about the white house? president biden has been very, very clear he wants a bipartisan deal. i reported myself, i talked to two people in the white house who said he doesn't want to focus on reconciliation. he continues to say, let's work with republicans. how did democrats coming back with a $6 trillion idea, how does that please this white house? >> well, i've been talking to
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white house officials even when i was abroad in geneva because white house politics was still broadening the agenda even when president biden was abroad. the president feels a responsibility to try to work with republicans because he ran and won an election on that idea. that being said, i do sense a bit of frustration talking to some officials when it comes to the idea that if this drags on and on and on and they end up in reconciliation, anyway that, they didn't turn to that in enough time. so we've heard this week, of course, white house officials tell lawmakers, we have 7 to 10 days to work on bipartisanship, then we'll have to sort of turn the page. i haven't heard a firm deadline from white house officials, but if they're already telling lawmakers there are a number of days left, a week and a half here left to continue to do this before they go another route, to democrats only, that tells you that that level of frustration that i'm sensing is now leaking into their conversations in
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congress. >> sahil, where do we stand on police reform? it started to look like we were getting close to a deal a few weeks ago, but a few weeks have passed and nada. >> talks have hit a wall over a statute known as section 242, what happens in terms of can police officers be criminally charged? democrats included a proposal that had four sets of actions that could lead to police officers being criminally charged. republicans said no deal. they are not willing to accept that. now they came back with an offer where they said they are willing to accept a world where police officers are charged with theft and sexual assault, but they argued that going too far would make police officers too hard to recruit. there is some prospect that the two sides could come together on this, stephanie. >> quickly around the horn, of
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voting rights, infrastructure, police reform, where is the white house most confident they can get something done. shannon? >> i would say the longest shot is going to be on voting rights, and i think infrastructure and police reform, it just rotates the day. one day infrastructure is alive, the next day it's dead, same thing with police reform, and i guess nothing is a deal until you actually have a deal, but i think those two are going back and forth at this point. >> yamiche? >> infrastructure has the best shot. policing, there is still a lot of dragging of feet. i would go with shannon, infrastructure, then policing, and voting is a really tough sell. >> sasahil, the last to you. >> infrastructure without a doubt because there is a way to do it without a filibuster. that is the big, big sword hanging over the democrats and the white house in terms of being able to get things done. there is at least a path to do infrastructure and economic proposals without republican
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support by getting rid of the filibuster. three liberals and four conservatives all voting on the same side. does that tell us anything about how the court may vote in the next big case? i want to bring in correspondent pete williams and melissa murray, former law clerk and now assistant to justice sotomayor. the court voted 6-3, but that's not the same breakdown at all. do you remember, it was former president trump that said, fine, congress won't do it, we'll take it to the supreme court. they'll end obamacare. it didn't happen. >> first of all, i don't think any of donald trump's predictions about the supreme court ever came true.
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look what justice thomas said yesterday in health care division. that's probably a good barometer here. he said, i think the court has been wrong twice before on obamacare, upholding it, but this time we're not rescuing obamacare, we're simply saying people who want to sue this time don't have the proper legal standing. that's an issue very dear to conservatives' hearts. you can only come into federal court if your claim against the law is that it causes some particular injury to you. and what the court said is, without the individual mandate enforcement mechanism, the tax penalty, the law doesn't force you to do anything. so the states can't say that this law harms them because it doesn't require them to do anything, it doesn't require their residents to do anything. now, the two dissenters, alito and gorsuch, said, oh, yes, there are many other provisions of obamacare that directly affect the states in many ways, but there were only two votes for that.
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this was a bedrock issue for conservatives, this standing question, and i also think it says something about chief justice roberts that he was able to hold in that majority, two trump appointees, amy coney barrett and brett kavanaugh. >> the unanimity we saw in both the asa case and the human rights case is surprising and perhaps a little deceptive. as pete suggests, the court did not reach the merits of that case. i imagine if they did reach the merits, we would see a more traditional fractioning. in the case where we had a unanimous opinion to allow catholic social services to continue to vet and to prohibit same-sex foster parents, i think we see the court moving toward a more muscular vision of free
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exercise of religion and one that is very consistent with conservative principles and the real question is why did the liberals on the court go along with it, and i suspect to stave off a more dramatic and seismic shift of free exercise and religious freedom. >> melissa, are you seeing a pattern in how these particular justices are voting that would give you clues as to how they're going to vote on key cases going forward? >> i think one of the things that we're seeing, as pete says, the chief justice holding some of the conservative members like kavanaugh and barrett together, even though others are more constructive on these questions. they're a minority of three. they're not going to be able to do anything unless the chief justice can join him and he can bring another justice or two along. the chief justice had his power shifted, but he's still managing to wield some power here.
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>> pete, you also want to ask, what's the next big case we should be looking out for? >> i think the one everybody will be watching for is the student speech case, can schools punish kids for things they say off campus. the benefits for student athletes. one of the rules in when the election rules go too far in restricting voting, and finally charities, can recipients of charities be forced to publicly disclose their contributions. we'll be getting those in the next two weeks. we have decisions on three days next week, starting on monday. >> thank you both. coming up next, you'll want to see this. the justice department just released horrifying new video from the january 6 attack showing a former new york city police officer rushing at capitol cops. those disturbing new images next.
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we have breaking news in arizona. one person is dead and 13 others hurt after eight separate incidents by the same shooter in maricopa county. police say four people were shot yesterday during the 90-minute spree with nine injured by shrapnel and traffic crashes related to what happened. one victim was found dead in a canal. the other victims are expected to recover and they do have the suspect in custody. in detroit, michigan, state police are investigating a shooting overnight that killed a two-year-old and injured a nine-year-old. it happened on interstate 75. police say it is too early to
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tell if those kids were targeted or if it was a road rage incident. and any minute now, vice president kamala harris will head to atlanta, georgia to promote covid vaccinations and voting rights. less than half of fulton county is now fully vaccinated, less than half. while that is in line with the rest of the country, it is higher than the rest of the state. and with the state opening up and vaccines rolling out, atlanta is also grappling with a massive spike in crime. homicides up nearly 60 -- 60% in 2021 and that's after last year was the deadliest in the city's record. joining us now, atlanta's mayor keisha lance bottoms. mayor, more than half the residents who can get the shot haven't. who are you reaching, why aren't they, and what's your strategy? >> it's very disappointing, stephanie, there is hesitancy obviously across this state right now.
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you have to remember this is still, in so many places in the state, still a head state, so we know there is hesitancy on the far right, but also many minority communities are still very concerned about the vaccine, and we know the historical context of those concerns, of longstanding dissonant trust of vaccines, so we are continuing to educate people. i've been fully vaccinated as well as my husband, my mother, and two of my teenagers are fully vaccinated. and so it's going to be important for trusted voices in our community, whether it be elected officials or ministers or teachers, and in this case, the vice president of the united states speaking directly to our communities, letting people know that it is safe and in their best interests to receive this vaccine. >> and as things -- i mentioned in our country opening up, we
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are seeing this spike in crime. we're seeing it across the country but also in your city. we're going into the heat of the year. what are you doing about it? >> we're doing every single thing we can do about it. yesterday i had a briefing from the special assistant in charge with the fbi. we are looking for outside support and resources, working with all of our partners, but you're absolutely right. unfortunately, this is a spike that we're not just seeing in atlanta, we are seeing it across the country. i'm talking to mayors in cities really big and small, and we are all grappling with the same issues. in atlanta specifically, we have really put a push towar getting our young people voting this summer. our school was closed for the entire school year, and there is the mental piece as well.
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president joe biden and the american rescue plan set aside $5 billion toward violence prevention programs, but there is the here and now we have to deal with, but we believe getting 1,000 people to work this summer which we've had great success with will help. but there is still so much work to be done, and until we deal with the systemic issues of gun violence in this country, how easily young people, people with mental illnesses can access guns in this country, i'm afraid this will not be the last summer we are having this conversation. >> you've called this a covid crime wave, but killings are up 50% from before covid. where is this coming from? >> well, i think there are a couple of things you have to compare. remember, in georgia, we were opened up before the rest of the country, even before the cdc said that it was safe for us to open. so our nightclubs and our bars
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remain open. we have people traveling here from across the country to party in our city. so we believe our numbers are from 2015, which they are still up. again, this is an issue happening in cities across the country. if it were an atlanta issue alone, then i would know there was something we weren't getting right addressing this issue. but when i'm talking to mayors and hearing from mayors in cities across the country in large, urban areas, we're all experiencing this, so we have to work together to find a solution to this gun violence that is gripping our nation. covid left a lot of people battered and bruised, not just physically, but also emotionally. and what we are seeing, which is a very disturbing trend, are
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domestic violence cases are up significantly, the number of shootings we're seeing are between people who are acquaintances, an inability or unwillingness to simply resolve conflict with words, and again, we are going to do everything in our power to get to the other side of what i describe as this covid crime wave, but it really will take us all working together, also with federal and national support on this effort. we have some of the tightest gun laws right here in atlanta. >> let's talk about current response. atlanta's police chief announce aid restructuring of the department. are you seeing officers hesitant to show up to scenes and respond because of the heightened tensions over the last year? >> absolutely not. our officers are still showing up to do the job that they were sworn to do. but law enforcement across the nation has really had a
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difficult time retaining and attracting people into law enforcement. what we are seeing right now in atlanta, people who are eligible for retirement in previous years perhaps would have considered staying on the force a bit longer, people are leaving the force, and again, this is not just happening in atlanta, it's happening across the country. so our officers are still showing up, doing the job that they were sworn to do, trying to protect our communities. but you have to remember, stephanie, law enforcement shows up after a crime has been committed. we just had a shooting recently. the suspects were apprehended within ten minutes. so we are making the arrests, but what we have to do as leaders and what we have to do in communities across america, we've got to stop these shootings from happening on the front end, and it's going to take work from all of us. >> we have to protect our communities, and we have to find
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a way to get these good men and women who are part of law enforcement to want to be in that line of work and want to stay in it. you know, i was going to ask you about this. you're one of several democratic mayors not running for re-election. from a personal perspective, i can obviously see why, especially given what you've been through in the last year. what made you decide this, and what's next? >> stephanie, i can't say that it was one thing in particular, but just as thousands and maybe even millions of people across the country have really reflected on this last year and how they want to spend the rest of their lives, my heart for serving my community remains. it will never go away. but for this season, i don't think that i have to do it as mayor of atlanta. and the reality is this. there is always a date certain, at least in atlanta, with the time that you have to serve.
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and voters get to decide every four years and so do elected officials. the last year was not what i had anticipated or would have scripted for my time as mayor, but i am very proud of the work that we've done in atlanta, and i can hold my head up high. and as i contemplate the next season of my life, i know that i'll pass the baton on to someone else who can continue the work that we've done on behalf of our communities. even outside of covid, issues regarding affordable housing, making sure that people have access to transit, making sure that our kids can get a solid public education, those are issues that will remain whether i'm mayor or not, and i trust that the next person will be able to keep pushing our city forward. >> mayor, thank you for joining me this morning. i appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, new disturbing video, very disturbing video from the january 6th attack as the first sentence in the case
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new this morning, the first sentencing is set to happen soon in the january 6 insurrection as the justice department releases new video of the attack. it's been used in the case against thomas webster, a former
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new york city police officer. in this video he's wearing a red jacket and carrying a flagpole. we warn you, the images are disturbing. that was not a normal day on the capitol. joining us now, nbc washington investigative reporter scott. you've been all over this. i said he was carrying a flagpole. he was using a flagpole as a
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weapon doing some patriotic march. >> and the flagpole, stephanie h a marine corps flag on it. when he lost the flagpole, the feds said he started punching and then toppled the d.c. police officer. we got the video last night, a court released it to us. then we went through his case file. stephanie, we found that webster is challenging his pre-trial detention by making this argument, that it was the officer who provoked this. that the officer was mocking people in the crowd, that the officer was making what he called provocative hand gestures and that police turned peaceful protesting to unpeaceful when they used chemical spray. we'll see where that argument goes, but webster is one of 50 or 60 being held pretrial. >> is that an argument? he's aware there's video? >> he's very aware there's video, he, like the other defendants, trying to keep the
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video from coming out. we went to the media to get them released. he's going to make the argument that it was police before the camera started rolling that provoked this behavior. >> okay. the first sentencing in this case is going to happen very soon. what are we expecting? i mean, there are hundreds of others coming. >> yeah, it's noteworthy. this will be the first sentencing. it's actually a lower level case. her name is anna morgan. she's from florida. she said she came to the capitol that day because her hairdresser recommended it. she's not accused of any violence, not accused of damaging any property here, so it's a misdemeanor case. what we've seen from prosecutors overnight is a filing calling for three years' probation for anna morgan. that's going to be their recommendation. she's asking for 40 hours of community service and a $500 fine. we'll see what the judge says when he rules next week if anna morgan enters the guilty plea she is expected to enter. >> a recommendation from her
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hairdresser. it was an attack on the capitol. i want to bring in chuck hagel. secretary, i really appreciate you joining me. after you saw that video, a former police officer charging a current officer, waving a marine corps flag. how do republicans call themselves the party of law and order and not support an investigation? >> well, stephanie, it's really astounding. what we've seen, especially the last four years in the view of many republicans, especially in congress, facts don't matter. i guess videos don't matter. the facts are the facts, the reality is the reality. what we've seen here is reality. and why they are so afraid of the truth, to get to the truth, the whole point of the january 6th independent commission,
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independent of congress was to get to the truth behind all this. but you're going to see this, the world will see this play out more and more over the next few weeks as more cases come up for trial and more videos come out. it's a disgrace to this country. >> but what is their strategy here? to continue to downplay this, we're hearing from republicans, people in the right wing media, and to your point, america has seen it, we watched the video. why would they do this? i just don't get it. >> well, i don't, either, quite frankly. i'm a republican. i'm not sure what that means anymore, but the republican party and its leaders -- >> then why fight it? >> that's another story, but i think the republican party and its leaders have lost their way. your question really con fronts that. why are they doing this? why are they acting like this didn't happen or it was just another regular day at the
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capitol or just regular protesting? this was unprecedented, as we know. so what's behind all this, i guess president trump, i guess what he's been saying for a number of months, that the election was fraudulent, so let's take the country back and rerun the election and all that goes with that, and all that he has been saying and his followers, i guess it's to bolster that argument. i don't know, president trump continues to talk about these things, to say these things that just aren't true. and they're hurting the country. yes, they're hurting their party, they're dividing their party, they're polarizing the country in dangerous ways, but i guess they don't care about that. you know, there is one thing that should be the guiding point and the compass of the north star for every elected official. that's an oath of office you take. you take an oath of office to
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the constitution. that's not to the president, not to political philosophy. we've lost that in many ways. what the strategy is, stephanie, i don't know. >> i'm really surprised by politicians being political. i want to ask you about veterans. you're the former defense secretary. you yourself are a veteran. what do you make of the large number of active or former police officers and military veterans who were personally involved, who were insurrectionists themselves, and the list seems to keep growing? >> well, it's disgraceful, to start with. they violated every premise and every commitment they made to this country -- >> why are they doing this? >> -- and their service to this country. i suspect it's because -- and we've seen polling on this over the last few years. they've lost confidence and trust in our institutions and our leaders. they have fallen prey to the crazies who are out there
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spreading lies about our government, about our country, about our leaders. i mean, president trump's whole four years in office was about that, was about misdirection. i'm going to drain the swamp, i'm going to tear down the place, everybody is a liar. the news media is the enemy of the people, the news media. i suspect that they have fallen victim to believing that kind of thing, and they think that this is the way to change it, to resurrect whatever they believed. i'm sorry about that. the whole country is, because we all suffer from that, because it infects all institutions. lloyd austin has got an issue over at d.o.d. as he is dealing with this issue, extreextremism. every institution in our country is dealing with this issue. how deep is extremism in the body of an institution? it's a serious challenge to this
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country. >> it's just stunning because you would think that veterans, law enforcement, you know, sort of the most grounded people we have are out there following a totally distorted reality from a former reality tv star who lost the presidency. i do want to ask you about politics and minority leader mitch mcconnell's strategy. it seems like he's going with his former playbook that he used when obama was in office, block, block, block. can you help me understand how local politics works, especially around infrastructure? i'm not a kentuckian, but i would guess they could use better roads and better broadband. >> i don't think it's a good strategy for obvious reasons. who is opposed to infrastructure? republicans, democrats, independents, communists? everybody likes infrastructure because it brings jobs, it
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brings economic benefit to a community, it improves a community, it improves it in every way. i think what mr. mcconnell's strategy is, you've got a 50-50 senate and everything is about next november to break that 50-50 lock. i suspect that he is maneuvering and strategizing everything going on now to get to that 50-50 deadlock issue next november so republicans can retake the senate. the house has got a democratic majority by a narrow six or seven votes, same thing with mccarthy in the house. i think that's terribly irresponsible for this country. i don't think any leadership should put that first over the interests of a country, their political interests of their party. but, unfortunately, we're at that point, i think, in this country. leaders who do that fail the country. >> i guess i'm just naive. i would think that if i lived somewhere that needed new roads
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and bridges and better wi-fi that people from my state would look and see how i voted on approving that. and if i voted against it, they wouldn't like it very much. i don't know politics, i guess. thank you for joining me this morning. i appreciate it. i have to leave it there, and we're going to move on to the coronavirus pandemic and growing concerns this morning about the risks to teenagers as new and more contagious variants emerge as the summer begins. i want to go live to heidi przybola to d.c. teens want to go out, they want to work, they want to party. >> steph, the primary way the delta is spreading is through primary and secondary schools. dr. fauci said that cannot happen here. if you look at this cavernous hall behind me, this site used to handle 800 vaccinations a
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day. now they would be lucky to get 80. they tell me what they are doing to try to combat this new normal is to target teens. a lot of it goes back going through their mothers, creating mom my bloggers, creating a new student corps. steph, we talked to a lot of students about what they're really up against here, and that is, number one, a lot of these teens, it's just not a thing for them. and number two, the amount of disinformation on line is eye opening. we talked with a 17-year-old named london. >> one conspiracy is that the vaccine is implanting a chip into us and the government is tracking us. another one is that the vaccinations will be a star to a zombie apocalypse in the future. >> steph, that is not just french, that is out there a lot on tiktok and these other social media forums, and that's why the doctor who runs this clinic says, look, this is the new
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normal, this is despite the fact that we only have about 15% of teens vaccinated in this city and even lower if you consider just black teens. it's about 5%. we've got to change tactics. >> yeah, we do, or send all those teens to summer school, because that's just plain stupid. heidi, thank you. i now want to bring in dr. scott gottlieb. he's the former fda commissioner and author of the new book "uncontrolled spread." scott, you just heard that. how do you fight that disinformation? >> well, look, there is a lot of disinformation out there. we know foreign countries including russia has been putting out information about certain vaccines. i think we need to switch strategies in terms of how we distribute these vaccines. we've been very successful to date, largely distributing them through mass vaccination sites and pharmacies, which is dependent on people being motivated to come in and get the vaccine. i think as we head to the fall, there will be a resurgence to people choosing vaccination as
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they head back to work and school in the fall. i think we should put it in the hands of providers in getting them to get the vaccine. i think more people will get vaccinated as we head into the fall. >> the new delta variant is being described as covid on steroids. does that mean vaccinated people like me are more susceptible to get it because it's a stronger covid, or it's just going to be worse for the unvaccinated? >> the evidence that we have suggests that the vaccines are fairly protective against this new variant. there is a slight decline in the level of immunity you get from the vaccines from two doses of mrna vaccines against this variant, but not appreciable. you'll have pretty good detection. this new variant appears to be about 60% more infective than the original u.k. variant, the
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1-1-7 which we all know is more critical than the strain that came out of wuhan. if you look at what's happening in the u.k. right now, it is in largely unvaccinated populations, and if you look at the hospitalized populations, half the people are vaccinated against this variant. of 200 people in the hospital, only 3 were vaccinated. >> is that impacting many communities to see people get sick, very sick? >> i don't know what's happening in the u.k. so far in the u.s., we haven't seen big shifts in the polling we're looking at in terms of people's willingness to get the vaccine. the willingness to get the vaccine is pretty high. 78% of americans said they have been vaccinated or intend to get
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it at some point. there is modeling that came out, sort of an ensemble model that shows we'll have a surge next fall. maybe about 20% of the peak of last year's elections. still quite a high surge. some states based on these models don't show any uptick at all. connecticut shows flat and some states show an uptick in infections. it basically breaks down by immunity. states that have low vaccination rates based on these models are expected to have a surge of protection from this delta variant, where states with high levels of vaccination will not. we could see a situation where we see regions across the country in states where there's less immunity in the population have to grapple with upticks in infection rates. >> there is a way for states to
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juneteenth a day after president biden signed the bill, making juneteenth an official holiday recognizing it as a federal holiday. >> nations don't ignore their most painful moments. they don't ignore the moments of the past, they embrace them. the emancipation of enslaved black americans did not marked the end of equality it only marked the beginning. >> i'm so glad to see you in person. juneteeth, for many people, they didn't know about it. >> it was the date that the last slaves were freed in texas. federal soldiers came in and told the slave holders they have to listen to the emancipation
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proclimation. so we went back to galveston, texas. this year reginald adams wanted to celebrate another way. >> the mural celebrates the data slaves were freed on this day 180 years ago in galveston, texas. >> for decades name galveston didn't know about the history of their own city. >> he created an interactive digital code that visitors could scan to learn more. >> we looked at it as a outdoor classroom. >> even somebody that doesn't know what juneteenth in sees this and they're like what is this? >> they say now a time to honor a history that is often joke looked. >> sam july collins is a
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historian. >> where are we right now? >> we're at pier 21 where many enslaved africans would have arrived here in galveston. >> they said mostly black union soldiers road in to tell them they had to free their slaves. >> that's why they say this history still matters. >> what do you hope that people take away when they walk by and see this work of art. >> i want people to learn something they didn't know. >> they hope this puerile inpyres people around the world to understand the significance of this. >> did you learn about it in school? >> i did, back in the south. >> now it's a federal holiday,
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democrating talking about doing it big and doing it alone. the white house this morning considers making the latest and the last bipartisan offer on infrastructure. just ahead we're live with a key democratic on where he sees all of this going from here. also, coming up, that new vad owe from the january 6th insurrection is just released by the justice department. we are live with the latest. a special report right here on one city's road to redemption. we're taking you to the intersection of social justice and why the motor city is looking to get rid of a highway. good morning. we're on assignment in los

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