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and washington governor jay inslee. that's eight to 10 am, tomorrow morning. the 11th hour with brian williams begins right now. ins right now. >> good evening once again day 143 of the biden administration but it is the trump administration and its attorneys general that are under scrutiny tonight. increasing scrutiny at that. 24 hours after that blockbuster new york times report about the secret seizure of data from house democrats in the hunt for sources of leaks in 2017 and 18. just as departments independent internal watchdog has now launched an investigation, senate majority leader schumer in durban say the democrats will open their own inquiry they attend to subpoena those former trump attorneys general sessions and barr, to testify
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before lawmakers. as of tonight, current house intel chairman adam schiff, and committee member adam swalwell both democrats from california have confirmed their records were seized. >> i think we've shown through to impeachments a willingness to hold donald trump accountable. donald trump think he's going to be reinstated in august, he's running for reelection in 2024, you have a number of want to beat donald trump's who are just as corrupt and probably more competent, if we don't take steps to make sure this doesn't happen again, we could really see the erosion, the complete erosion of the rule of law in our country. >> swalwell says he and other house intel staffers were notified by apple last month about the trump doj grand jury subpoenas in february 2018. it forced apple to turn over the data in a statement today apple revealed quote, the subpoenas sought customer or subscriber account information
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for 73 phone numbers, 36 email addresses. and that the ndp oh or nondisclosure order was extended three times. that is a gag order, each for a year. that means the company was forbidden to disclose what the government took from them. microsoft also said if received a subpoena related to a personal email account. back in 2017. as soon as the two year gag order against them expired, microsoft says it notified the customer who was indeed a congressional staffer. an interview with political today, attorney general barr as quoted as saying that he does not remember being briefed on the moves and was not aware of any congressman's records being sought in a league case. he had a trump never suggested he target democratic lawmakers and a former senior justice department official tells nbc news, that when jeff sessions was a gee he never approved subpoenas for members of the
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house intel committee and a leak investigation. whether or not either or both of these former trump a.g.'s are telling the truth, that will likely be borne out in public in the investigation. as the current justice department grapples with this latest controversy, it's also focusing on the continuing efforts to curve voting rights across our country. and a speech today attorney general, merrick garland, who is under fire, make no mistake, made no mention of the seizure of house democrats data, but did announce plans to significantly expand the department civil rights division. >> we will use all existing provisions of the voting rights act, the national voters registration act to help america vote act, and the uniform and overseas citizens absentee voting act to ensure that we protect every qualified american seeking to participate in our democracy.
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we are scrutinizing new laws that seek to curve voter access and where we see violations, we will not hesitate to act. will>> while all this was happeg in washington, president biden spent the day in the uk trying to strengthen our alliances during the g7 summit and taking part in the first of two meetings with queen elizabeth. this is queen elizabeth's 13th american president, by the way. he will be meeting with vladimir putin on wednesday. tonight, in an exclusive interview with nbc news foreign correspondent here simmons, the russian leader offered his views on the u.s. president and the man joe biden defeated. >> i believe the former u.s. president mr. trump is an extraordinary individual, talented individual. otherwise he would not have become u.s. president. he's a colorful individual. you may like him or not, but he didn't come from the u.s. establishment, he was not part of big-time politics.
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president biden, of course, is radically different from trump because president biden is a career man. he'd spend virtually his whole adult life in politics. just think of the number of years he spent in the senate. a different kind of person. it is my great hope that yes there are some advantages and disadvantages but there will not be any impulse base movement on behalf of the sitting u.s. president. >> with that let's bring in our lead off guest on this last night of the week susan page veteran journalist bestselling author usa today washington bureau chief. eugene daniels white house correspondent for politico, coauthor of each day's addition of political's playbook. and daniel goldman former cyst and u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, notably also served as general counsel for the house intelligence committee during the first trump impeachment. good evening, and welcome to you all. indeed counselor, it's because of your resume that we asked you to be on tonight and i would like to begin with you.
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you are both a doj veteran, and a work closely with chairman schiff for all we know your name is on one of these lists. your data has been shared, what is your personal reaction to this story and can you explain to our viewers why this is such a deadly, serious matter? >> i'm horrified to see this. it's not for a lot of the reasons others have said. i think the department of justice has every right, broadly, to investigate crimes. but knowing the people who received these subpoenas, or whose records were sought through the subpoenas, i find it very hard to believe that there was any legitimate and real and credible evidence that would have led, and objective,
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prosecutor to issue these grand jury subpoenas. that means that it was a purely political hatchet job if that is accurate. we haven't seen with the bases was for the investigations, for the subpoenas. apparently, according to reports chairman schiff's office has requested that information and the department of justice has declined to give it to them thus far. but, i'm very suspicious as to what is behind their. i am somewhat suspicious of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle within the house of intelligence committee, whether they were providing some of these telephone numbers, some of these email addresses to the department of justice. because they would've had access to more of that information than just about anyone as the majority staff for the house intelligence committee. >> while, that last bit is food for thought. eugene, what is the white house
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view of this thus far? >> right now, i mean, we've talked about this before the justice department has been very busy and in the news over the last few weeks. they are staying out of it. this is something that they have talked about and the reason is exactly because of what we're seeing right now. they want to make sure that they are not seen as being a political, as using the doj in any kind of political way. when you talk to people behind the scenes, you talk to them on the record, you talk to them on background, off the record they will tell you the exact same thing which is that president biden wants to stay out of the doj. he is telling his people to not try to put their thumb on the scale and let them investigate this and whatever else pops up. they want to see what happens, who did what and what was his
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peanut and what was seized. they also know and are watching what is happening on congress. they know that if you see sessions or barr both be subpoenaed and brought in congress, that is going to be a blockbuster day or so of back and forth between congress and those two gentlemen's. that is something that they're watching as well, how this plays out. but they're definitely trying to stay -- as far out of it as they can, but they are very aware of it. >> susan, exactly 24 hours ago i try to warn our audience that people were going to hear the word nixonian tossed around a great deal. indeed, over the past 24 hours it has been and john dean heard enough of that, he knows from nick sony and here is what he said on cnn, will discuss on the other side. >> a lot of people are comparing that with nixon. nixon didn't have that kind of
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department of justice. it is beyond nixon, yes. it is nixon on stilts and steroids. >> so susan as you well know, nixon would've killed to have a doj that he could operate with a lever that would've performed on a win for him. are you as convinced, as everybody else, that it doesn't end here, that this may be the tip of the iceberg? >> i think it is hard to argue that this is clearly more serious than the abuses of the watergate that president nixon was trying to protect a particular incident and abusing his power. this is a broader assault, i think, on our democracy. this is seeking, subpoenaed neck records, without a legitimate cause.
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it is a kind of aggressive pursuit, reporters who the administrators see as their critics, i mean we've seen these disputes before and leak investigations. this is more serious, more of our weaponization of the powers of the legal authorities than we have ever seen before in our history. >> daniel goldman this is where i get you to comment on the sitting attorney general, we have seen enough of merrick garland to know that he is a rule follower and law venerated to almost a paralyzing degree, people want to see a proof of motion on this front, what do you want to see in the coming days from doj? >> well today's step of opening an investigation is a good step
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for the department of justice. but attorney general garland is an unenviable position of trying to ride a ship that has been very wronged over the last four years, and doing that does not mean that you have to continue to do what occurred during the last four years, just the opposite. you actually have to fear on a different course. but part of the trick, and part of the challenge that he has is that in order to move forward i think there needs to be greater transparency than the department ordinarily would like to give, both to congress and to the american people. this is just one example, i'm sure there is more to the story that we will continue to follow. we've heard from reporters of records being subpoenaed, we've heard about congressman record being subpoenaed and there will be more, this is not the end of it. but i think that attorney general garland would do well to try to get out ahead of some
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of this stuff and be more transparent than perhaps his gut, his instincts, or even his understanding of the norms of the department of justice. it is not a normal time. he's trying to re-normalize things, but we can't just ignore what happened over the last four years. i think we need to understand what occurred before we can move forward. >> eugene, the president will come back to this country after the wednesday's summit with putin, compared to what he faces on his domestic agenda, he may choose to spend more time with putin. remind our audience the work that remains once he is wields down at andrews? >> at this point, we've been talking about infrastructure for a very long time. we're almost back at square one. he walked away from the table with negotiations with senator capito from west virginia who was negotiating for republicans, and now you have this group of
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ten, this gang of ten republicans and democrats who they say they have a deal. they have a deal that they're going to take to their leadership in the house and in the senate. they're going to take to the white house and see where they're at. the problem is, and everyone on this panel knows, the gangs in congress they haven't been that successful as of late, probably would we're gonna see here and what we've seen from the white house on the deal that they kind of struck was this idea that it was very lukewarm, to say the least. while we're seeing is joe biden, when he does come back is coming back to a congress that is at a standstill. his agenda, still at a standstill because of such a slim majority in both the house and the senate, and more importantly fighting within the party. now you have progressives who are getting more and more for bull about their irritations on waiting on joe manchin, on
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waiting and trying to get republicans to get on board. he is going to have to deal with a lot of the domestic thinks, and he's been what's seven days overseas dealing with all the foreign policy aspects. and like you said in might be a little bit easier, because when you get back here, the types of votes that are going to be taken, the amount of time they have to get a deal done and get him something that he can sign, they are really running out of time. >> susan, let's talk about putin. he really laid it on about trump, calling him an extraordinary individual, talented and colorful, no one has any doubt that it isn't trump's phone ring tone. think about it, putin the return on investment from this guy and the kgb should take a bow for training him well, he spent what's $7 to meddle in our 2016 election and now for no cost at all, a few words
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here and there, he has trolled biden indirectly as a career guy on the eve of their summit. >> i don't think if human career politician as a compliment, there was no talk about how much more he like president trump as an international person and you would understand why. he use the russian forces to help elect on a trump the first time and this is going to be a real test for joe biden, and he's gone a really warm welcome with the leaders of the g7 this is friendly territory, there are relief to have him in the white house replacing donald trump. that won't be the case with putin. one of the most extraordinary questions to answer from your credible interview with putin today was when keir simmons read the list of people who
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have been assassinated at the order of putin, he didn't bat and i, he didn't flinch, he also didn't deny that he had ordered them killed. he dodged the question. that was pretty chilling, brian. >> as i say, the kgb must be proud of this particular graduate. i know it's been a long week for all of us that is why we are so thankful for susan page, for eugene daniels, for daniel goldman for starting us off on this friday night. thanks, gang. coming up for us from an unprecedented use of government power, to unprecedented acts of voter suppression, it's been a busy day for the current attorney general, our political experts standing by to weigh in on what he's facing and the challenge ahead of him. later, the man who literally wrote the book on tyranny takes a closer look for us tonight on what may be behind putin's stunning praise of the former president, now retired and
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if you use his force when multiple courts have already authorized this audit he will be in violation of the law. lawless thugs is all they will be. it's a lot from more we welcome back juanita tall over veteran political strategist for political candidates and tim miller, and former comes director for jeff bush. good evening. i would like to begin with you the a.g. spoke in rather lofty terms on voting rubs but then there is this, from npr in arizona. republicans from a growing number of states are traveling to maricopa county in arizona to witness a controversial election review ordered by gop leaders in the state senate. a sign that similar probes may be sought elsewhere across the country. so tim, what is your understanding of what the dreadnaught doj can do as this
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massive organization, now beginning the process of vetting and hiring 50 more lawyers while republicans are running around the surface of the country doing their darkness to restrict voting rights? >> it is going to be tough, brian. as encouragement to the speech, all of this takes time. staffing up takes time. meanwhile he's going to play this game of restricting voting rights whack-a-mole, and not just arizona but texas, and a number of other places, michigan and pennsylvania and etc over the course of the next year. look, i think this is the head of the biden administration has been dealt, hopefully, this was a signal from garland today that the doj is going to be aggressive. the roberts who has actually been pretty good as chief justice, his roulette gutting the voting rights act is
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definitely a black mark and that is going to make garland's job harder, because he doesn't have the standing that he would've had if it wasn't for that supreme court ruling to take some of these challenges to court in the texas law in particular would be one example of that. as i've said, it is a big game of whack-a-mole and they're gonna start hiring quick in order to fight it. >> juanita you're in the thick of this and a friend of mine said tonight that out of all the members of the biden cabinet he was so surprised that it was merrick garland who is proving so controversial with the democratic base, he is taciturn, he is deliberative almost crippled by his desire to follow the rules. he said today congress should pass voting rights legislation, who's going to tell him about joe manchin?
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>> not only who's gonna tell him about joe manchin but who is gonna tell about an entire republican party that is committed to dismantling our democracy. and so, what i appreciate about garland saying today as they're taking this action, they're not gonna wait for congress to act but there is very real barrier still in congress about manchin opposing the for the people act and expressing support for the john lewis voting rights act, but still that opposition for the peoples act is a direct barrier to legislation stuck remedial lot of voter suppression language that is included in these laws and states like arizona, georgia, florida and others. but i see here is yes, it is great that the doj is being empowered to step up and as tim mentioned play this voter suppression walkable but more is needed, especially as the 2020 midterms are coming up and voters are going to start to feel the tension and the reality that comes with these
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laws that are essentially disenfranchising them and turning them off from voting increased barriers for them to vote. while this action from the doj's promising, and it is much needed support that we know progressive groups in the states who are already taking -- presenting these court cases against these laws, it is only the start. there needs to be sweeping systematic change to protect voters and protect voting rights in this country. >> all right, a quick break here thankfully both of our guest have agreed to stay with us while we do this and coming up as one columnist put it today, biden can either be a good president or transform america. will ask our guests about that calculus. whether or not it is too cute by half, right after this. half, right after this. but new cascade platinum changes all that. new cascade platinum, with 50% more cleaning power! it dissolves fast to start cleaning sooner, releasing the soaking power of dawn.
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restore order overseas, daily beast senior columnist matt lewis had eight some advice for the work awaiting him back home. he puts it this way and we quote, biden can be a good president or transformed america, not both. he goes on to say, biden can quit trying to be fdr or lbj, and he can just be joe biden. he can reinvent himself and rewrite his own narrative. it could be as simple as that. he can stop pretending that having the tiebreak and a splits and it means he has a mandate for sweeping changes,
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and start acknowledging that he was elected to steady the ship, not rebuild it. still with us, juanita tolliver and tim miller. the juanita, hair is the choice. does he have a point? or do you it doubt the entire premise there? >> if i fully reject the entire premise, brian. and i appreciate you offering me the option, because you know that was i was going to pick. because the people who voted for biden, who voted for him to build back better, and i want to emphasize better, because it recognizes that systems in this country are broken. and this pandemic merely exacerbated the inequities that people across this country experience. especially low income people, who have always struggled to access health care. black and brown people have been subjected to racial injustice is since the foundation of this country. to reneged on that promise, to reneged on that commitment that biden stomped on, that members
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of the georgia senate caucus stomped on. it's essentially going to be the quick quickest way to lose the confidence of voters who went all in on biden, and went all in on democrats in 2020. because we know from every piece of research, every poll that i've worked on in the 2020 election cycle, rebuilding better is what people voted on. that's why excited them. because they knew there was no return to normal, because normal isn't serving them. for biden to step away from that, is not even an option. if anything, if biden re-brands himself, he needs let go of this notion of bipartisanship and focus all his energy on delivering for the people by any means necessary. because the people don't care about whether it was bipartisan are not, they only care if you deliver for them. and if you improve their lives in a substantive way. he did that on covid, he needs to keep that same energy as it relates to infrastructure. voting rights, policing, and every other thing that impacts the way people live their lives, today. >> all right, tim, let's talk
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about mr. manchin. mostly because it's so much fun. to quote a great book your father's house may have, there is many mansions, but there is about one in the u.s. senate. does he have too much power? especially for a guy representing a state with 0.5 of 1% of the u.s. population? or do you buy into the amy stoddard, james carville argument, that this is all a material. it never should have come down to him. what part of a 50/50 senate did the democrats not understand? it's all about math, not mention. >> yeah, i might get some fruit throw thrown at me over this. i'm going to come to mentions defense nightly. >> oh boy. >> if joe manchin is interested -- you're going to get an insurrection in their next time. right? the choice isn't between joe
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manchin and whoever your favorite senator is. it's between joe manchin and is very far right republican, who's not going to support any of the objectives that the biden administration has. i point the criticism a little bit more towards the democratic senate leadership, that i think needs to be given mentioned outs. i think that giving these big, broad bills, with a lot of progressive priorities -- some of them agree with, some of them i don't agree with. but regardless of what the particulars are, they are not putting him in a position to get to the ends right now. i think they need to look at -- whether that's john lewis voting rights act, certain elements of infrastructure. some of these other bills. what are ways you can get manchin to yes, then flipped the script. and put the pressure on republicans. positive, excuse me not positive, popular legislative items that joe-mentum can
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support in front of him. let him get to yes. and then put the onus on republicans to say hey, you guys get to ten on. this infrastructure is popular, john lewis voting rights acts popular. i think that's where democrats need to pivot and put mansion in a better position to be helpful. >> sure would be interesting to see a majority leader, lyndon johnson right about now at this moment in history, and see how it stand. let others throw the fruit. thank you both for bringing the fire. resented arguments tonight from our friends juanita tolliver and tim miller. to thank you both for coming on and staying out with us. coming up for us, more from our exclusive nbc news interview with russian president vladimir putin. just tonight. we'll show you his response when asked if he's a killer. when we come back.
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of the hour, days before his summit with president biden
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next week, vladimir putin sat down with nbc news correspondent keir simmons. it is the russian president's first american interview in nearly three years. here is more from their exclusive conversation. >> we sat down for a 90 minute interview inside the kremlin, where i pressed him on accusations he is ordered assassinations of his adversaries. >> the late john mccain, in congress, called you a killer. when president trump asked, was told that you are killer, he didn't deny. when president biden was asked whether he believes you are a killer, he said, i do. mister president, are you a color? awesome [laughs] >> over my tenure, i've gotten used to attacks from all kinds of angles. all kinds of areas under all kinds of pretext, in every. since of different caliber and fierceness. and none of it surprises me. as far as harsh rhetoric, this is an expression of overall
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u.s. culture. of course, in hollywood, there's underlying deep things in hollywood. macho. which would be treated as cinematic arc. that's part of u.s. political culture, we are considered normal. by the way, not here. it is not considered normal. here >> i don't think i heard you answer the question, a direct question. him >> i did answer. i'll add if you let me. i've heard dozens of such accusations. especially during the period of grievance, during counter-terrorism efforts. we're when that happens, i will always act on the interest of the russian people in russian state. in terms of who call somebody who, it's not something i worry about in the least. >> let me give you some names. alexander -- poisoned by polonium. sergey, allegedly beaten and died in prison. boris, moments from the kremlin shot. mcconnell, died of trauma in
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washington d.c.. are all of these coincidences, mr.? president >> [laughs] look, i don't want to come across as being rude. but this looks as some kind of indigestion. exactly except that is verbal indigestion. you've mentioned many individuals who perished at different points in time, for various reasons, at the hands of different individuals. >> but today, reports that russia is offering to supply iran with satellite technology that would help it targeted u.s. military in the region. president putin denying those claims. >> at the very least, i don't know anything about this kind of thing. >> brian, and our wide ranging interview, president putin denied any knowledge of hacking and called on president biden to reach an agreement with russia on cyberspace. brian? >> keir simmons, our thank you for that. congratulations on the interview. we want to let our viewers know there will be more of this exclusive interview with putin,
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on monday, across the networks of nbc news. with us tonight to talk about what we just saw and more, professor timothy snyder, of yale university. former marshall scarred scholar. specializing in europe and the holocaust, among his works. two books particularly relevant to this conversation. on tyranny, 20 lessons from the 20th century. and the road to an freedom, russia, europe america. he also has a newsletter where he comments on current affairs called thinking about. you can find it at professor, your reaction to this interview? you don't need that kgb degree to know to flatter a narcissist. he has owned trump from hello. he praised trump and by doing so, trolled biden on the eve of their summit. but keir was the first reporter in memory to confront him by name, with this label that he's a killer. l that he' >> i notice a couple of things
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here. the first thing i notice is that mr. putin seems to be out of practice in direct engagement with journalist. he's an intelligent man. he's a charismatic man. he has many talents. but he's used to now press events that are entirely staged. he's used to the person that who sets the terms. so regardless of the content, which was not existent, one has to notice that the style of his response was also not very impressive. he was invasive, but he was a evasive in a very interesting way. the reporter is pressing the basic issues. issues of life and death. issues a free speech. issues of representation. and we're not getting very much back. nothing in content, but also very little instyle. >> he has for very little cause, very little output on his part, we overshot expectations. talk about a return on
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investment. his impact on american life and society -- look at the stories we're covering tonight. has way over indexed beyond investment by russia. >> we should give credit where credit is due. what the russian leadership understood were certain kinds of american vulnerabilities. given mr. putin's own kgb background, and given the importance of the secret services in russia, generally, it's not surprising that they would've understood that social media provides a way into the mentality, the psychology. into the society of what they regard as an enemy country. what they were able to do in 2016, and to some extent, since, display on the vulnerability which recreated for ourselves. we think technology works for us, but it doesn't always. social media doesn't always work for us. we think technology works for progress, but it isn't
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necessarily work for democracy. so, it's true, russia has a small economy. in terms of traditional measures of influence, russia shouldn't be very important. it's basically as important as we allow it to be. and under mr. trump, of course, we allowed it to be very important, indeed. >> terrific point. our friend professor snyder. we know in vienna, austria. is about 5:44 am in order to speak with us, life. he's going to stay with us a bit longer. coming up, we'll talk about what concerns our distinguished guests has about all that we have witnessed thus far this year. ar natural propellant? cheaper aerosols use artificial propellants. that's why febreze works differently. plus, it eliminates odors with a water-based formula and no dyes. for freshness you'll enjoy. managing type 2 diabetes? on it. on it. on it, with jardiance. they're 22 million prescriptions strong.
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it's finding innovative ways to move forward. >> today's report is one of the chase for business ® . make more of what's yours ® . many reasons i support the ability of existing investigations to uncover all actionable facts about the events of january six. i continue to support these
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efforts over any that seeks to publicize politicize the process. and i would urge my colleagues to do the same. >> mitch mcconnell struck down the idea of a bipartisan commission to investigate the january 6th attack on our capital. on the events that transpired that day, our guest tonight, professor timothy snyder writes this. quote, the terrorist attacks of 9/11 race questions about foreign policy and airport security. the terrorist attacks of january six raised deeper questions about how our country is governed, and who we have become as a people. 9/11 led us to the invasion of iraq, the foreign policy disaster that marked our century. january six leads us to a catastrophe on that scale, but inside our own country. still with us is professor timothy snyder. professor, indeed this is peggy nunes later's in the journal. if you were appalled by january six, and you have given up, thrown in the towel. democracy is done, it's over. those who know it's not done,
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not over, who don't allow it to become be done and over, also know that democracy needs friends right now. and this country we had the extraordinary event on memorial day of hearing the american president refer to our democracy as being in peril. professor, we deal with this topic every day. but it's like the frog boiling experiment. it's not being treated as an emergency. it's kind of a ruling benign event. should it be treated as an emergency? >> it should be treated as a constant challenge. these two segments are connected. look at mr. putin, we think about the assassination of people like boris -- and anna -- . these were people who are trying to find out the truth about basic issues in russia. the truth about chechnya. the truth about ukraine. by the seeing token, we want to avoid becoming like that. we have to have leaders who
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instead of hiding the truth, what the truth to be, exposed as a clearly and early and in as many ways as possible. if we don't have a 9/11 commission, then ngos have to step in, congress has to step in, because if you miss your own history, if you can't tell your own story, then your story gets told for you. at our story for a lot of americans is now being told through the prism of this big lie. the big lie that trump supposedly actually won the election. and that line leads people to close their minds to other people. and it leads a political party to move away from democracy. so i would say, constant challenge. always a challenge. >> how do you get a basically trusting society, ours, operating with a first amendment to be more skeptical of what they see. if you know what to look for on social media, you know the sites that the russians are boosting. it's any bad news.
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anything to make us feel bad about our country. the virus, our politics, our divisions, race. how do you make a more educated consumer, without entirely turning people off to our politics? >> i think you have to think of very broadly. i think democracy isn't just something which is under threat. democracy is a project. it isn't come naturally. it depends upon civic education. it depends upon history. we need more history so that americans aren't surprised by bad news. and know where it comes from and think about our future. what we really need, and russia has also been listening here, is local news. the crash of liberalism a democracy of russia begins with the crash of local news there. we're following that same trajectory. if you want americans to have a source of information for common conversation, that information has to be about the places where they live. right now, americans is a news desert. if you want people to have
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alternatives to social media, you have to give them those alternatives. you have to give them the facts about their actual life around them. that creates the basis for a larger national conversation. if all of our conversations are just about national politics and ideology, we are going to be divided. i like the question, because if you think big like the founders did. you have to think about building from the ground up. what kind of education? what kind of factual environment do we need to become better's is? i think that's the moonshot which is missing so far from the biden administration. we can't just think about defensively. we have to think about what kind of climate can create our own young americans for the future? so that they'll be ready for democracy. fu>> here, here. as a 12 year veteran of local news, proudly. and if you are of a every night to this day. i couldn't agree more. professor timothy snyder, please come back on. and take our questions. once again, thank you so much for joining us from vienna, austria. early, early in the morning. coming out for us. the people who hand out the
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i can't breathe. please get off of me. i can't breathe. he cried for his month. he was in pain. it seemed like he knew it was over for him. he was terrified. he was suffering.
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this was a cry for help. >> last thing before we go tonight, remember that from the chauvin trial. that was the voice of darnella frazier. on the afternoon of may 25th, 2020, she was taking her nine year old cousin to buy snacks at an unremarkable corner store in minneapolis called -- cup foods. quite literally the definition of minding her own business. when she made a quick decision that would change the course of history. she took out her phone. she started recording what became the murder of a man in the street, in broad daylight, under the knee of a police officer. she chronicled the departure of life from the body of the man we now know as george floyd. today, he darnella frazier was recognized with a special citation from the board that wards the pulitzer prize. as rioters reported it today quote, the citation at the 2021 pulitzer prize ceremony is a rare instance of the board recognizing the journalistic achievement of someone with no professional experience in the
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field, a striking distinction in the genre sometimes known as citizen journalism. frazier, 18, it was recognized for recording quote, a transformative video that jolted virus and spurred protests against police brutality around the world. and no, it is not hyperbole to say that darnella frazier the's decision in that moment changed the world. people marched around the world. george floyd's name has been spoken and in remembrance in the oval office it's the title of a proposed act of congress. indeed, what darnella frazier did in that moment was the definition of electronic journalism. as ugly and stomach turning as the video is to watch, the question remains, would we be seeing the name george floyd were it not for the bravery and presence of mind of a young woman named darnella frazier. so, that is our broadcast for
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this friday night. and for this week. with our thanks for being here with us. on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news. good night. s. good night >> tonight, on all in. >> they have ought to investigate adam schiff for looking that information. he should not be leaking information out of intelligence. they ought to investigate adam schiff. >> abuse of power on a scale we may not have seen before. >> this is the type of stuff that vladimir putin does to alexei navalny. >> donald trump's doj is caught spying on political opponents. tonight, what we're learning one day later. the urgent need to hold all of the former president's men accountable. with one of trump's targets, eric swalwell. then as eric garland vows to defend voting rights. is his justice department ready


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