tv Ayman Mohyeldin Reports MSNBC April 29, 2021 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
good afternoon, everyone, i'm ayman mohyeldin in new york. president biden is marking his 100th day in office by visiting georgia in support of his multitrillion proposals to boost the american economy which you're seeing some strong signs of growth today with this morning's weekly unemployment claims hitting a pandemic era low. i'm going to talk to white house communications director kate bedingfield about what is next. but right now, the president is about 150 miles south of atlanta. he's in plains, georgia, visiting there with another president. jimmy carter and his wife rosalynn carter. back in 1976, biden was the first to declare his support for president jimmy carter.
right now, kamala harris is speaking about what the administration has done about its first 100 days in office just after visiting a vaccination center at a nearby stadium. live pictures you see right there. all of this comes less than 24 hours after the president and vice president made history during his first address to a joint session of congress. >> madam speaker, madam vice president -- [ applause ] >> no president has ever said those words from this podium. no president has ever said those words. and it's about time. >> we the people are the government. you and i. not some force in a distant capital. not some powerful force we have no control over. it's us. >> joining us now nbc news chief white house correspondent peter alexander traveling with the president in atlanta. and jake sherman founder of punchbowl news and msnbc
contributor. guys, great to have you both with yous. peter, let me begin with you, the president is pushing for two more huge spending plans which is quite honestly a sharp contrast to his democratic predecessors including bill clinton whod the era of the government is over. how is biden planning to sell these proposals to even some members of his own party, peter? >> wel, ayman, he has a ability to be a transition figure to add to the safety net, trillions of dollars that he would direct for all sorts of programs for children, fruition-free community college and extended family paid leave. he's going to make the case right here in georgia which is a crucial state, of course. this is the state that helped sway congress, control of congress, to the democrats with the runoff victories just a few months ago with the two
democrats, jon ossoff and raphael warnock, you see the big sign over our shoulders that says "getting america back on track." that's the tour's name. they stop here in atlanta, philadelphia, pennsylvania, tomorrow, and virginia on monday. in terms of a sales pitch that really is the challenge and a lot of republicans have said this is a radical tax and spending spree. there is some concern amongst, the democrats. this is a big gamble by this president because he has the narrowest of margins in the senate. and joe manchin, the democrat from west virginia making it clear in his words uncomfortable with this level of spending. how do they do it? jen psaki, the press secretary saying they're open to options to get this done. saying we have a lot of options if open to consider. >> jake, to peter's point, the
president has called for $6 trillion in the first 100 days. the nearly $2 trillion package is already law. but with price tags for infrastructure and the american families plan coming to another $4 thrillian are lawmakers, again, to peter's point, particularly democrats growing wary of approving such large bills? >> well, with such narrow majorities in both chambers, remember, we're working with about a five-seat majority in the house and an even senate. so any one or any two or any three democrats has the opportunity to say, okay, guys, we need to pump the brakes here. this is not what we need to be doing, this is too much. and people, as peter and you both said are doing that. so here's a couple things that are going to be problematic. number one, there are not any republicans for the infrastructure bill or the family plan, i don't think. maybe the infrastructure. but almost certainly not the family plan as currently constructed. any legislation ayman, that
includes large-scale tax increases or even small-scale tax increases is going to be very difficult with republicans and with some democrats. and basically, if you want to understand, and peter said this, he's so right, if you want to understand the future of either of these packages or mostly the infrastructure package you need to look towards joe manchin because he holds all the keys here to understanding how this is going to get through. i'd say a corporate tax increase of the magnitude that the white house is suggesting is unlikely. maybe a smaller magnitude. but i just want to say, the american family plan with which joe biden unveiled and put some meat on the bone there last night seems extremely unlikely as currently instructed as sweeping as it is to get through congress. i just think that's a bridge too far for a lot of democrats like joe manchin, the tax increases included in there are quite sweeping. although they don't really impact a large number of people. i just think that people are
going to be wary of that. this institution, as you and i talk about all the time can only handle so much. >> no doubt about that. one thing it's trying to handle is police reform. i know members of george floyd's family met today with republican senator tim scott. he gave the republican rebuttal last night and he also said america is not a racist country during that speech. the president says he would like a bill on police reform by the first anniversary of floyd's death next month. is that a possibility? or a pipe dream? >> you know, the time line, ayman, i'm not sure about, but i do get the sense this is internally punchbowl news. i do get the sense that police reform could very well happen. it's a broader negotiation. we haven't seen what the broader republican or democratic parties think about it you have tim scott cory booker and karen bass, three lawmakers that have
tremendous amount of support with their colleagues. and nancy pelosi said today, karen bass has her proxy, basically, to negotiate this deal. so, i tend to be a skeptic, as you know. i think that this is -- i don't know likely, but it's certainly a very healthy possibility that this could happen. >> you, a skeptic? that's hard to believe. jake sherman, peter alexander, thanks to the both of you for starting us off at this hour. as we mentioned president biden and vice president kamala harris are hitting the road to tap their accomplishments during the first 100 days in office. joining us to talk about that and more is white house director kate bedingfield. thank you for your time. >> thanks for having me. >> let's talk recent polls, they do support the president's infrastructure and families plan, as well as the tax increases that he wants to pay for them by nearly 2 to 1 margins. and a lot is being said, though, about how president biden's message last night is actually shifting the democratic party back towards, you know, the big
proposal era of fdr and lbj, as i was mentioned away from presidents like former president bill clinton. with public opinion on your side, kate, is the so-called era of big government back? >> the way president biden thinks about this is, this is about rebuilding people's faith in their government and democracy. he believes this is about rebidding people's faith in the government's ability to help them, to make their lives better. that's what these investments that he's proposing are all about. that's what the jobs plan is all about. that's what the families plan is all about. these are investments that are going to create middle class jobs in this country, he's put forth the proposal for 12 weeks of paid leave, anybody out there, working parents or someone working with an elderly parent, you know how important that paid leave is. these are investments that are about making people's lives better. and he's really, you know, saying, government has a role to play here. and it's important and it's imperative for him as president.
he views it as a responsibility of his as president to try to begin to rebuild that faith that's been lost between people and their government. so, that's what these investments are about. that's what he's out today in georgia talking about and making his case directly to the american people as you saw him do in a speech last night. >> you obviously, as you just mentioned is this an investment of american people, the president referred to as a once in a generation investment in america itself. is this an acknowledgement that this year may provide the only chance for this president to try and get something approved by congress? >> i think he views this much more as being about seizing this moment, that the pandemic, the crisis that the pandemic has created, this opportunity that we have in front of us to really rework our economy so it's actually working for working people and for middle class families. and that's what you're seeing in these proposals that he's putting forward. these are investments in roads, in bridge, in broadband to ensure as we saw across the
course of this year, it became even harder for kids who were trying to learn virtually to connect to their classrooms if they didn't have good broadband. so, he's putting forward investments that are critical to making people's lives better and to making our economy more competitive. i think that's the other piece of what he's saying we have a once in a generation opportunity to reclaim our leadership in the world stage and really invest in our economy so we're creating jobs now with these investments but we're also creating jobs for the long haul. we're creating jobs as we look forward. we're making an investment in our workers to lead the world. >> some of the opposition in the price tag is coming from within the democratic party, as we mentioned senator joe manchin. is the president willing to put pressure on members of his own party to get on board with his proposal? >> well, senator manchin has been an important partner to us and we hope will be moving forward. i think what the president is going to do is make his case.
he's going to do exactly what you saw him last night speaking to the joint session, what cruel see him do in georgia today and when he travels to pennsylvania tomorrow and on monday, he's going to make his case directly to the american people i think what we're seeing from the american people, these are invests they want. you referenced polling at the top of the segment here. but what we see is overwhelmingly, people want to see investments in making their roads better and making their bridges stronger and creating these good paying union jobs in communities all across the country. people are looking for that. the president is continuing to make his case, he's going to keep his head down, keep working to try to achieve that. >> another issue that's drawn some consideration is immigration. arizona democratic senator mark kelly as you are aware put out a statement last night in which he actually said about the president's address while i share president biden's urgency in fixing our immigration system what i didn't hear was a plan to address the immediate crisis at the border. let me pose that question to you.
the president reach out to senator kelly? and when can we expect the white house to unveil a plan to deal with the increasing number of migrants arriving at the southern border? >> you know, i'm really glad you asked this question because i think there has been 2re progress at the border and i think it's important for people to hear. so, what we've seen is that the number of kids who are in border patrol custody which is the thing that a lot of the media was focused on over the conversation of february and march, the number of kids in these boater patrol facilities. the number of kids was in mid-march at about 5,000. and now, as of this week, it's under $1,000. the biden administration has moved quickly to move these kids out of border patrol facilities. we're now the average time that a kid is spending in the border patrol facility is now under 50 hours. which is down dramatically from where we were a couple months ago. so, the administration has moved quickly to move these kids out of the most dangerous part of this process. and being in the overcrowded border patrol facility and into
hhs facilities that are in and of themselves temporary facilities and we're working to unite those kids with family members in the united states. with sponsors in the united states. so, we've made tremendous progress on the situation at the border. obviously, there's a lot more to do. and i think what you heard from president biden in his speech last night is his commitment to the long-term solution here. he wants to see congress come together and move on a comprehensive immigration reform bill. he wants to move on dreamers. he wants to move on tps. these are things that we can do to make our immigration system better, to create a pathway to citizenship. for people who are in this country, hard working, undocumented folks who are in this country, contributing to our economy. so, he wants to see the congress make -- move forward and work towards solutions on this. >> i wanted to, before we go, ask you about a new report that the federal government is investing at least two possible incidents of invisible energy attacks on u.s. soil in the past
couple of years, similar to once on u.s. personnel, both in china and cuba. the white house said in a statement that it is working closely with departments and agencies to address unexplained health incidents and ensure the safety and security of americans serving around the world." what is the white house communicating to staffers who are concerned about possibly being the victim of one of these attacks? >> so, of course, we would take any threat like this, any situation like this, very seriously, as you saw from the statement, we are working to investigate. we have our agencies are working to get to the bottom of this. we take any threat to the potential safety of somebody working for the united states government seriously. so, we are -- we are working to get to the bottom of this. we are communicating directly with staff who may be impacted. so let them know that there are resources available to them. we are -- you know, we want to make sure they understand that we take this seriously. so, that's what we're doing. we are -- we are working to make sure that they have the resources that they need from
us. and that we are undertaking these investigations to get to the bottom of what's happening. >> all right. white house communications director kate bedingfield, thank you so much for your time, kate, appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. up next, new details on the fbi raids of the former trump attorney rudy giuliani's home and office. what they told craig melvin about them after seizing his phones and computers. plus, later in the hour, we'll take you to moscow where an emaciated alexei navalny appeared in court today. you're watching msnbc. u're watc. . applebee's irresist-a-bowls all just $8.99. keeping your oysters business growing has you swamped. you need to hire. i need indeed indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base claim your seventy-five-dollar credit
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today, president biden is reacting to the fbi raid on rudy giuliani's home and office saying he did not get any advance warning about them. he spoke exclusively to my colleague craig melvin, watch. >> federal investigators searched the home and the office of rudy giuliani as part of an investigation. into his time as president trump's attorney, his dealing with ukraine. were you aware of that raid before it happened? >> i was not. i made a pledge i would not interfere in any way, order or try to stop any investigation the justice department in their rest of the world learned about it. my word. i had no idea this was under way. >> have you been briefed on any other investigations? >> no. >> involving -- >> no, and i'm not asking to be
briefed. i'm not asking to be briefed. that's the justice department's independent judgment. this last administration politicized the justice department so badly, so many quit, so many left because that's not the role of a president to say who to be prosecuted when they have been prosecuted who should be prosecuted. that's not the role of the president. the justice department is the people's lawyer, not the president's lawyer. >> somebody else speaking out about the raid, giuliani's klose ally and ex-client former president trump. >> he just loves his country. and they raid his apartment, it's like so unfair. and such a double -- it's like a double standard like i don't think anybody's ever seen before. it's very, very unfair. >> and multiple sources familiar with the matter tells nbc news that federal agents executed search warrants to seize
electrical devices including phones and computers. nbc news and the rachel madoff show first reported that they tried to obtain giuliani's electronic communications. joining me now nbc news ron allen outside of giuliani's apartment building and former corruption fraud prosecutor for the u.s. attorney's office in the southern district of new york khan naladay. ron, let's begin with you, president biden said he had no knowledge of this. waiting for the biden administration to take over before pursuing this. walk us through the time line of this. >> well, it appears they were waiting, the way i've heard it from a number of law enforcement sources, people who are more expert on this than i am, suggest that the justice department under president trump was blocking this process. and now that blocking is not happening which is why the investigation is moving forward.
clearly, the biden administration is trying to downplay, or not give any hint that there's any politics involved in this. because that's exactly what you're hearing from the giuliani side of this. they claim this is a political decision, that the whole investigation is political, that mr. giuliani has even at points offered to participate, but has been denied to do the opportunity to do that to show his innocence. there's outrage on this side. there's condemnation of what's happening. and they are really suggesting and making a point of this being a politically motivated step that's happened now with the change of administrations. >> khan, this is an investigation that is being run by your former office, certainly an office you know very well. knowing what you know about it and how they operate, what else should we interpret from the timing of this case and the evidence that prosecutors already had? >> first off, to ron's point, is
this is not political. not from that office. and there's a simple reason for that, a prosecutor can't bring a search warrant unless they've gone to a judge, an independent judge, and shown that they have evidence that there's evidence of crime in the place to be searched which is giuliani's apartment. so, i think what the prosecutors are going to be doing, number one, they've gotten a treasure trove, potentially a treasure trove of evidence, in ipad, in computers. in emails. and things like that, what they're going to do is search through that for things they're authorized to search for which is evidence of crime in those materials. >> so, talk to us, though, about how recent the evidence has to be. because the first thing that came to my mind based on our own reporting that this was something on the radar of federal investigators going back months as we just mentioned there. so, when you think about the time line that this was out in the public, that investigators
may have wanted access to those devices or seize those devices. you think about how, much information could still be on there? could they have been wiped clean? could they be damaged? could they be lost? what do you think the chance of finding substance and how recent does it need to be? >> that's a fantastic question. you're right, it sounds like a search warrant had been drafted and prepared last year. and in order for you to execute a search warrant, you need to have some recency of evidence, recent crimes or recent facts that show that the evidence will still be there. what's interesting to ask yourself, the same question you're asking, well, the government must have some new evidence to freshen up that warrant they had prepared before. so, i think what people should be focused on is what is that new evidence that the government has to say, hey, listen, there's still evidence of prime on these
devices, we think there's recent stuff that there's still evidence of crime on these devices. >> yeah, it's an interesting point to get a judge to sign off on that. kan, talk to me about the fact that both of these individuals are lawyers, rudy giuliani and victoria pency who also had search warrants executed. the fact that they're both lawyers does that alarm you or give you pause? what should one read into the fact that they're both lawyers and subject to the investigation? >> number one, you should read it that doj, the prosecutors, did their homework. that they really believe there's evidence of crime in these places because they have to go through a lot of hoops even if giuliani was not former president trump's lawyer, the fact that he's a lawyer you need main justice approval. there's a lot of work these prosecutors had to do to prove they needed to go searching a
lawyer's stuff for evidence of crime. and number two, it's going to make their job a little harder going forward. they're going to have to set up a wall, meaning they're going to have to set up, let's say, prosecutors and fbi agents who are not involved with the prosecution to make sure they're not looking at attorney/client privilege stuff. >> hey, ron, have we gotten any word as to whether or not we're hearing from giuliani or anyone on his behalf? obviously we heard from andrew giuliani, rudy giuliani's son, any idea if we'll hear from rudy giuliani? >> we only heard from him on his twitter page. he produced a quip of fox news that was very complimentary of him and pushed the narrative that he's being targeted unfairly. and we also heard from his attorney robert costello. saying it is outrageous that the
trump derangement syndrome has gone so far that hatred has driven this unjustified and unethical attack on the united states attorney and may who did more to reduce crime than virtually any other american in history. we're not sure if rudy giuliani is here or not or whether he'll have anything to say. >> ron allen, kan nawaday, i appreciate both of you. we'll see more of the interview on "today" and 11:00 on msnbc. we're live in baltimore up next where kamala harris is up and running with phase two of vaccination push to get shots in the arms of americans. plus, powerful images from india on another devastatingard record-breaking days of covid cases in that country. you're watching msnbc. y. you're watching msnbc. can be a real challenge. that's why i use the freestyle libre
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we are closely following the coronavirus pandemic here are the facts as we know them at this hour. india breaking yet another covid-19 record today with more than 379,000 new cases in the past 24-hour period. and surpassing 18 million total infections. the country's systems are buckling, as infections soar with even crematoriums so overwhelmed they're having to burn bodies in parking lots. in turkey, a national lockdown just began that will last through the muslim holy
month of ramadan and into the eads holiday. turkey ranks 14th in the world in new cases per person. meanwhile, here in new york city, mayor bill de blasio announced on "morning joe" everything in the city from zraunts to entertainment will open july 1st. new york governor cuomo says he wants the city to open sooner that that. private now, vice president kamala harris is in baltimore, maryland, highlighting the biden administration in its first 100 days. moments ago she spoke at a vaccination site. >> american aspiration has defined its first 100 days. american aspiration is how we got to more than 200 million shots in arms in less than 100 days. >> joining from us baltimore is exclusive on the inoculation
efforts is heidi przybyla. good to have you, heidi. what did the vice president focus on today? >> she's here marking her first 100 days, not only celebrating the process that we've made on covid but signalling to the rest of us the very critical role that she's going to play in phase two of the public information campaign. ayman, we were told until exclusive interviews with both anthony fauci and jess science the lead covid director at the white house that the vice president will be leading the second phase of the covid campaign. and trusted ambassadors to minority communities and other communities like her are needed and you heard that from her here today, sending a message encouraging people to get vaccinated. take a listen. >> and if you haven't been vaccinated yet, or if you know somebody who hasn't, please ask folks to just roll up their sleeves. it's time for each one of us to do our part. [ applause ]
>> and ayman, here in baltimore really illustrates the challenges ahead for the vice president. although one-third of the population is black, they only account for about 22% of total vaccinations. >> hey, heidi, can you tell us what the next phase is in the vaccination plan in terms of trying to get more shots in arms, certainly, in communities that are hesitant? >> and this is why the vice president is stepping up to play this critical role. she did a lot of work in the senate, ayman, which many people may not realize in terms of equity. a lot of the programs that have come out of the administration including partnering with black churches, partnering with the nba all-stars those all came out of her senate bill but we did told by zients in the specific interview it's going to take
specifics. take a listen. do you think the vice president or even dr. fauci for that matter are going to be the people who convince them to get the vaccine? >> the good news, the vaccine confidence has climbed across the last couple of months but there is still more work to do to reach people where they are, in their communities. people look to their local leaders. they look to their faith leaders. and they really look to their doctors. >> so, in addition to the vice president and dr. fauci, the white house is looking, for instance, to local churches and faith leaders to lead on this. and they're taking a much more surgical approach, mobile units, colleges, taking the vaccine to people. >> heidi przybyla there in baltimore, thank you. just days after ending his weeks' long hunger strike in prison, alexei navalny made a report to the judge after the break. plus, our own richard engel will take you into the trenches
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♪♪ all right, we're following breaking news out of russia. today top putin critic alexei navalny was seen for the first time in public during a virtual court hearing since ending his hunger strike. he looked gaunt and spoke out against the russian president calling him a naked king. meanwhile, we learned a new criminal investigation was opened up into navalny examining his nonprofit organization. joining me from moscow, nbc news correspondent matt bodnar. talk to us what we saw what happened in court and what do we know about the latest investigation? >> reporter: thank you, ayman. obviously, one of the biggest draws was the opportunity for someone to see navalny for the first time since the hunger strike ended but for me what really stuck out was his performance in court. he brought his defiance with him.
he gave this very fiery speech which he essentially used to characterize putin's entire regime as an option force that is essentially siphoning this country dry at the expense of ordinary russians. and so, you know, navalny, characteristic defiance. but outside of the courtroom some very important things happened today. as you mentioned navalny's team says that new charges have been filed against navalny and two of his senior associates. basically, being accused of opening an organization that infringes on the rights of citizens. it's a strong charge but it carries with it the maximum penalty of two or three years if prosecuted. we could see this used if they go through with it to add additional years to navalny's already 2 1/2-year sentence. meanwhile, we still have the extremism case against the entire organization ongoing. the judge set a new date for that, may 17th. but someone you've spoken to on the program several times,
navalny's right-hand man today announced the official liquidation of navalny's entire nationwide network of regional campaign offices saying that there's really -- they really have nothing they can do about this. they can't win this fight. as i mentioned last time, they just have to protect their people now. but there's open questions even with this move as to whether or not they can do that. just today, we saw an example of all of the other means that the state has to go after navalny's associates. one of the regional headquarters chiefs, in the northern city in russia was sentenced to today 2 1/2 years on charges of spreading pornography online, when all he did was repost a music video from that german rock band. so i think this is a sign of what we're going to see next. >> matt bodnar life in moscow. matt, thank you as always. and we're following another development concerning russia, russia's foreign minister warning ukraine it would not
accept an offer to change a peace deal. the deal was brokered after russia annexed crimea back after the comments. with the comments with growing tensions between the two countries. russia recently moved to conduct drills and despite a recent withdrawal, ukraine's president is warning his military to stay on alert. nbc's chief correspondent richard engel is there and filed this report. >> reporter: one of the biggest foreign policies to.biden administration is actually playing out right here. these are trenches dug by the ukrainian military. and they serve one purpose, to prevent russian troops and russian-backed militias from entering and taking more ukrainian territory. the united states does not want russia to do it. it back the ukrainian soldiers who dug and manned these trenches but vladimir putin is pushing things. seeing how far he can take this
and see what kind of reaction he'll get from the new administration. and earlier this month, putin deployed tens of thousands of troops and heavy weapons not far from here to see what reaction he would get. he certainly got president biden's attention. president biden warned russia not to invade but also tried to de-escalate the situation, promising to hold a summit, still uncertain date, unspecified date. so, you can see, this push and pull between russia, vladimir putin and president biden playing out right here. ayman. >> richard engel in ukraine for us. thank you, richard. joining me now the president council on foreign relations, richard haass, he's the author of "the world." richard, let's talk about the tensions that we saw as richard describes playing out in ukraine. russia has withdrawn its troops but is there concern they could go back? how real do you assess the
russian threat to be against ukraine? >> churchill on stalin and russia, there's a mystery here, you had the buildup and you had the builddown, but clearly, the problem hasn't gone away. russia obviously still controls crimea. still has thousands of troops in eastern ukraine and they could in particular increase their hold over additional parts of ukraine's territory. what i don't quite understand, ayman, is what it does for russia. hopefully there will be some dead soldiers, even if they were to control the territory, i'm not sure what putin gains other than an attempt to basically drive up domestic patriotic-type reactions to distract away from navalny, the story you ran, distract away from covid and the economy. it's unclear. >> what does the biden administration either to advance a peaceful solution or shore up 40 for the ukrainians to deter
russia from any action? >> well, along with europe, we can continue to threat additional sanctions there's not that much left you can sanction. transfer of defense articles as it raises the cost to russia militarily. geography is on russia's side. the comparative military is on russia's side. to be blunt if russia wanted to do something against ukraine, they could probably do it if putin were willing to bear the costs. >> last night, president biden addressed russia's interactions, as well as the infamous solarwinds. let's listen to a clip to that. >> i responded proportionately to russia's interference in our elections and cyber attacks on our government and businesses. they did both of these things. and i told them we would respond and we have. >> so president biden announced sanctions on russia earlier this month. do you think that goes enough to deter russia?
because as you were just saying there's only so much you can sanction in russia? >> yeah, we've got a few things left but they would bedraconian to ostracize russia. what the president did or threatened to do in cyberspace. putin is also vulnerable. you know, we've been on the defensive here. there are things we can do to put him on defensive, using cyberspace or russian capabilities. the question is whether we can introduce a degree of deterrence here. i used to use the phrase nuclear destroyed destruction in the nuclear game maybe there's an element here in the cybergame. >> you probably saw we were talking about alexei navalny and our reporter matt bodnar was talking about this could be effectively be the end as they've known it. is that a crackdown on his
supporters that essentially means there's no viable option for vladimir putin and the biden administration? >> what history suggests if regimes are willing and able that they don't flinch. that the security forces are willing to crack skulls and put people in prisons indefinitely, they can for quite a while prevail. russia under putin may have basically said we're going to do what it takes to weaken this opposition. no matter what the outside world does. there's limits to what the outside world can do. we still want a nuclear agreement with russia. we want their help. we don't want to see opposition with iran or north korea, worried about ukraine. they've got card ares to play here. i think if putin does these things he'll probably stay in power and get away with it. to me, the real question is the long run. what i don't see is any institutionalization of any
legitimate force in russia. i really think after putin comes the deluge. we do not know what this country will look like when he ultimately loses power. >> richard haass with that. thank you as always. appreciate it, my friend. coming up, breaks news into the investigation into the capitol hill riot. new video of the moment rioters attacked capitol police officer brian sid nic who later died of natural causes. what this could mean for the man charged with assaultinging him. you're watching msnbc. your min. that's the visionworks difference. visionworks. see the difference. kevin bacon here. you know me from six degrees of well... me. but it's time to expand. see, visible is wireless with no surprise fees, legit unlimited data, powered by verizon for as little as $25 a month. but when you bring a friend every month, you get every month for $5.
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100 days and argue that the way forward for the republican party is to unite around an agenda rooted in conservative principles. the justice department releasing new body camera footage from the january 6 insurrection showing the moment when rioters spray an unknown chemical substance at brian sicknick and other officers. he later died from natural causes after suffering two strokes and while two men is charged with assaulting him no one has been charged in his death. joining me now scott mcfarland. what does the video show us about the attack on officer sicknick? >> reporter: here we are four months after the attack and still getting new images of the brutality and the sequence of events that day. newly released video from the d.c. police officer released to nbc news by the justice department is going to show prosecutors say the attack on officer sicknick and perhaps
more powerfully the aftermath and slowed down by prosecutors and added arrows to point to the suspects and to officer sicknick on the left in the bring coat and seemingly disoriented and overpowering by the chemical spray and julian and george the suspects both have pleaded not guilty and both are in jail pending the next hearing jay 6 and partly because the prosecutors and the judge say this video shows violence and necessitates them being held in pretrial detention and something else as we go through the new cache of videos it appears this chemical spray incident sparks the crowd, really triggers them. they were behind that bike rack and perimeter until the spray ejected and then knocked over the bike rack and swinging hand to hand combat with the officers and then officer sicknick trying to find safe harbor and clean
air. >> scott, what is the significance of these videos and you mentioned that prosecutors showed them but how are we able to obtain them now four months after? >> reporter: we had to file legal motions both in west virginia where george was first charged and here in d.c. where they're being jailed. eventually the justice department handed them over. incredibly important because the police were able to affect so few arrests that day. they're using the videos not just to make arrests but to make the cases. in another video released to nbc news you see more of the aftermath of the chemical spray incident. that's a capitol police officer appearing to be blinded, disimportanted by this very powerful spray and another officer comes over washes the eyes out with water and has to guide her away from the mob and can't sigh and had to be directing her towards safe ground away from the antagonists. the prosecutors didn't have a real legal issue here. a logistical issue but cases and
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hi, everyone. it is 4:00 in the east. democracy still works. that was the central message delivered by president biden to a joint session of congress last night. president biden making a stirring call for healing and restoration in light of what he referred to as the worst attack on our democracy since the civil war. the deadly capitol insurrection. >> can we overcome the lies and hate that pulled us apart? the autocts