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on. that is tomorrow at 8:00 eastern time right here on msnbc. and that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. hi, there, i'm stephanie ruhle, where else? live in washington, d.c. it is thursday, april 29th. president biden's 100th day in office. in the next hour, president biden heads to suburban atlanta for a rally as the administration starts the job of trying to put their very ambitious words we heard last night into action. last night the president laid out a massive jobs and family plan that he says is aimed squarely at helping the american middle class. >> the american jobs plan is a blue collar blueprint to build america. that's what it is. and it recognizes something i've
always said in this chamber and the other, good guys and women on wall street, but wall street didn't build this country. the middle class built the country. >> the big-ticket items include the largest jobs plan since world war ii, as well as plans to add two years of free preschool and two years of free community college. in all, get ready for this, his proposals amount to $6 trillion in new spending and he made absolutely no bones about the fact he wants to tax the rich to pay for it all. labor secretary marty walsh joins me later in the hour to talk about that very thing. the president also said he wants and needs republicans' help to get this stuff done, everything from jobs to gun safety to immigration. judging by republican senator tim scott's official republican response, that is not going to happen. scott claimed it is biden pushing the two sides apart but that is the exact opposite of the message president biden actually closed with last night.
>> we have stared into the abyss of insurrection and autocracy, pandemic and pain and we the people did not flinch. at the very moment our adversaries were certain we would pull apart and fail, we came together and united. we're the use of america! there's not a single thing, nothing beyond our capacity! we can do whatever we set our mind to, if we do it together! >> all right, gang, let's dig deeper into all of this and bring in nbc's monica alba near the white house, leigh ann caldwell on capitol hill, priscilla thompson in georgia, where the president is heading later today and eugene daniels, political white house correspondent and co-author of the politico playbook. monica, 100 days in and the president has now laid out an extremely ambitious agenda. one problem with that agenda, you've got to execute on it. government isn't normally very
good of that, irrelevant of who's in power. how is he going to get all of this done? >> ambitious and aggressive is absolutely right, steph. that's why you heard the president last night spend more than 19 minutes of his speech talking about the priorities and how he sees the path to getting them accomplished. but what we also heard last night were new deadlines. the white house expecting to have a lot more major progress on the american jobs plan, that's infrastructure, of course, by memorial day. but we also got a sense of a brand-new deadline that the president is setting, urging lawmakers to really get police reform done and across the finish line by passing the george floyd justice in policing act by the one-year anniversary of mr. floyd's death which is really days away now, at the end of next month. after that you have the president wanting everybody to then turn their attention to the american families' plan, which he outlined last night as the human infrastructure. that's really where we got some of the first details.
but this is a president who has said everything has to be done in a particular order and there's a specific timing to all of it. so that's why he is going to put all of this political capital right now behind jobs, infrastructure and then later the american families plan, according to the white house, and that is why you're going to see him and the vice president, first lady and many other top cabinet officials and surgets hit the road in the coming days for what they're calling help america get back on track tour. so all of that, steph, coming at a time the president wants to make these overtures to republican, hoping for bipartisan support, and you will see gestures from the white house for major meeting, steph. >> i want to talk about that major meeting and more. the president's message over and over is congress needs to act. on the democratic side, what are they doing? and on the republican side, any chance? >> well, steph, he gave a speech and that's the easy part.
he laid out his plans, that's the easy part. the hard part is actually getting this done and passed through congress. and it's going to be extremely difficult considering that he has laid out $4 trillion more worth of spending that would drastically remake the american economy. and democrats and republicans in their response, they immediately put out statement after statement calling it a socialist agenda, liberal, radical left ideology, and so they to start are not on board with this. you heard senator tim scott and his response last night allude to this, saying the president has talked about unity, but his policies that he's outlining do not bring the country together, he says, as it is going to be very difficult to get republicans on board and that's going to take a lot of work. but there is a little bit of good news on the issue of bipartisanship, steph. on this police reform bill, formal negotiations are starting
this afternoon with bipartisan members, four republicans and four democrats from the house and senate with the blessing of congress. so this is a sign both sides want to get something done and things are moving forward, stephanie. >> congress will get on board if voters are on board. last night biden leaned into this idea of taxing the rich and giving to everyone else. your colleagues at politico said he's revealing his inner robin hood. i want to share what he said. >> i believe what i propose is fair, fiscally responsible and raises revenue to pay for the plans i proposed and will create millions of jobs that will grow the economy and enhance our financial standing in the country. to hear someone say they don't want to raise taxes on the wealthiest 1% or corporate america, ask them whose taxes
you want to raise. instead, whose are they going to cut? >> eugene, i want to be clear, this isn't elizabeth warren's plan to tax the mega rich. these are any households making above $400,000 a year. i could make $200,000. my spouse could make $200,000, and i'm by no means saying that's a small amount of money but it's not what a lot of people would say are the rich and there are millions and millions of americans that fall into that category. what happens if they say a lot of stuff in this program won't impact me, why should i pay for it? >> that's exactly right. that's one of the risks when you're talking about a number like $400,000. if you head straight to the millionaires, that's different. but the thing is, steph, 100 days, this is a very popular president especially taking the context of the political polarization of the country
but his policies are more popular than he is, even by ten or more points depending on what poll you're looking at. so even the people who are making $400,000, $500,000 as a family, when they go into their political corners on him, but the policies they like, there's a weird die cot me that i think we're all still trying to figure out. because the speech we saw yesterday where biden and his team were were on this tour monica was talking about, it's not supposed to have a rhetorical floor or be for the d.c. bubble crowd or harvard or people who went to the ivy league. it's about looking at people who are struggling, who had such a terrible time during this pandemic and say, hey, the government can help you. you've seen us do things for you over the last year why you've been stuck at home in this pandemic. we can do more. the way he's doing that is by just going straight to the bread and butter issues and saying, this helps you, joe blow. this is how it helps you who's a
blue collar worker, something we heard quite a bit, and he's talking about specifically white collar workers, people who are probably are not democrat and used to think government shouldn't all be up in their business. that seems to have changed over time looking how people look at his policies and they say, i like that. that is something they are banking on. whether it plays out especially as they start doing the horse trading and back and forth with republicans how long that lasts. >> he called this a blue collar blueprint. priscilla, take us to georgia, a state that helped put biden in the white house and just as important gave democrats control of the stat but it's still a swing state. are people on board with these kinds of sweeping proposals? >> steph, the folks that i have spoken to here this morning are in support of these proposals, particularly those centered around jobs and education. i spoke to one woman who talked
about putting herself through community college as a single parent while working and she said she could have really used something like free community college and she feels like there are a lot of people out there who could use that today. but i think where i began to hear hesitancy from folks is in regards to how exactly this is going to be paid for. many people i spoke to don't feel like this is just going to fall on the super-rich but it is going to fall on all taxpayers to contribute in order to make this happen. one of the things i was really struck by in speaking to folks this morning, i spoke to a dozen people. only two watched the president's address last night. yes, georgia is an important state. it's why he's coming on his 100th day in office. he's going to be in gwinnett county, one of those diversifying suburbs near atlanta that helped him win the state. while i'm sure he will be greeted by a lot of supporters who are very engaged, i think
there's a lot of work to be done to get his messaging to folks like i spoke to this morning. >> eugene, biden made it very clear last night that this would be a big shift to government. there are a lot of people who think there are a lot of good plans here but these plans need to be well executed and worked. many, many people think the government doesn't work -- isn't very functional, i guess i would say. >> no, i think that's right. especially after four years of now rm former president trump and the way they approach the government. >> even before that in general, people don't say oh, yes, government works great. people have very little confidence the government works, beyond donald trump. >> you know, you're 100% right, it goes beyond that. the thing is, the biden administration, every source i have talked to when you're asking, okay, how do you convince people big government is something that you want, you want more government in your life, they are really banking
on, steph, this idea of, okay, this pandemic, this one-year -- the more than a year pandemic, people saw government can do some things if you do it right. i think they're banking on that. it's a hard sell because there are even some democrats who will balk at some of the things they see or when you talk about more government doing more things and having all of the bureaucracy and all of the levers you have to pull. it's not easy, running government isn't easy. it doesn't look like it was set up for the united states government to work quickly. obviously, you have these issues in congress. so the -- that part of it is something the biden administration, every administration, has struggled with. but i think this administration is they think if they can go ahead and convince people, hey, we are going to continue to try, we're going to go big lofty, we're going to be lofty in our goals and try to be practical in the way that we actually get it done, right, that's why you
heard biden talking about the low jis cal feat of the vaccination programs they have. that is an example they're going to keep pushing. look what we did with the vaccinations. we started with 100 million. we hit that in 58 days. hit 200 million in 92 days. look what we're doing. it's a hard sell to a lot of americans but something they will spend on, because they have to, the $6 trillion he proposed, he has to explain and show people it's something that can be done. it's a tall order for any president. >> monica, other administrations have also tried to tax the rich. it is a very popular idea. however, the rich always seem to get around it. that's how it works when you've got the best accountants and lawyers. do we have any specifics about how this administration is going to make sure that doesn't happen, loopholes are closing? >> not yet, steph, and that's because we're still in the outline and proposal phase. remember, this is just a jumping-off point.
and this president in the white house in particular, opposed to the covid relief plan, said whatever we're putting forward here is quite aspirational, it does not mean it will end up legislation if it does indeed pass. this is where you will see some negotiation face to face with republicans. remember, they haven't even settled on a corporate white house increase. white house said they wanted 28% up from 21%. republicans said we absolutely don't want it to go that high and the president saying i might be comfortable at 25% or 26%. but those discussions have to continue so in much of a similar way with the american families plan, paying for the infrastructure as the white house is labeling it, they're guaranteeing if you're an individual who makes less than $400,000, you shouldn't see your taxes go up. and what they're saying to anyone else who might be concerned, they believe the president is making a once-in-a-generation ask and invest in childcare and paid leave and that's worth it because they're asking the smallest number of people, to
spend the smallest amount on taxes in order to uncover that. that's the argument you will hear them make, steph. >> can we clarify, i don't think it's individuals making less then $400,000, it is a household? >> so white house press secretary jen psaki was asked about that on a different network and stressed people making less than that shouldn't worry but absolutely, people file jointly and couples do all the time. so there's more clarity to come on that. but that's where you might see negotiations change. none of this is set in stone yet. >> if all right, it is $400,000. good to get that clarification. thank you all so much. important way to start our day. coming up next -- what are the chances of police reform actually getting passed? i will be speaking to congresswoman val demings. and then new details about what the feds found after raiding rudy giuliani's apartment and office in what our
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. last year after the deaths of breonna taylor and george floyd, i built an even bigger police reform proposal, but my democratic colleagues blocked it. i extended an olive branch, i offered amendments, but democrats used the filibuster to block the debate from even happening. my friends across the aisle seem to want the issue more than they want a solution. >> that was republican senator tim scott offering his re-budle
to president biden last night on police reform, and as our own leigh ann caldwell reported moments ago, four congressional aids tell nbc news former police reform talks are -- formal police reform talks are beginning today. joining us now, the former chief of the orlando police department and congresswoman val demings. thank you for being here. first, i would like your reaction to senator scott's comments on not getting police reform done. >> good morning, stephanie. it's good to be with you. let me just say this about the president's address last night. it felt good to me in congress to hear the president say my fellow americans and really believe he was talking to me. this is a moment for america to rise to the occasion. look, this is about leadership. it proves that american can work with the right leadership, and i'm hoping senator scott and other republicans will come to the table and pass the george
floyd justice and policing act. is it a perfect law? no, it's not. there's still a lot of work to be done but i do think it's reasonable. in law enforcement we deal with what a reasonable and lawful person would do and i'm hoping the senate, under the leadership of senator scott on this issue will be reasonable and come to the table and let's get the law passed. >> there are some people going to the table today to do some work. i mentioned it a moment ago. formal police reform talks beginning on capitol hill, eight lawmakers, four from each party. what should be the starting point for these discussions? >> i really think the starting point should be the need for criminal justice reform in our country. look, it's not a perfect system. i certainly know that. leadership is not easy. i certainly know that. but with the verdict last week in the derek chauvin case that
these negotiations, those at the table use that as a framing board to begin some really very serious conversations. i really do believe when you have the right person in the room with the right mind and the right heart, we can get this done. if they would just think about the derek chauvin case, the verdict, guilty on all three charges, the witnesses who came through, the families of george floyd, the medical experts and testimony involved, use that and come up with solutions to try to hedge our bet that will never happen again within this country. so they have the power, and i hope they use it. >> we know talks stalled in the senate on the george floyd police reform bill. where is the compromise? how do you get it passed? >> you know, i really believe when we looked at the legislation last year, i really do believe that the majority of the information in there is
reasonable and i believe that the majority of the information in there, republicans and democrats have come together. we know the sticking point centers around qualified immunity. but i believe, stephanie, there's a way to get there. i believe there are bad cops -- and good cops agree with this as well, by the way, bad cops engaged with inhumane, inappropriate, deadly behavior must be held accountable. americans deserve that. good cops deserve it. and we need that. so we are hoping that the legislators at the table will come together and get this law passed. this is the moment i hope they rise to the occasion. >> as a former police chief, you have deep expertise in policing in america, yet you got some criticism for defending the ohio police officer who fatally shot
16-year-old ma'khia bryant last week. do you sometimes think that your democratic colleagues who are lawmakers but not policing experts jump to conclusions on these shootings before we know all of the facts? >> look, as i said, whenever there is loss of life, be one thing i know for sure, this circumstance was a tragedy, but what we all have to remember as we deal with the tragic situation is that each one stands on its own. we have to look at all of the facts in each particular case. i know an investigation is being done in the bryant case. we will certainly see what a thorough, concise investigation reveals. but we all must remember each case stands on its own. i know we're all interested in justice and that's how we get there. >> congresswoman, we only have a
few seconds left but as a new yorker, i have to ask, we've heard new york mayoral candidate andrew yang saying he's considering you as police commissioner. >> look, i would say any time your name is called in a positive way, and i will leave that there. >> all right there, congresswoman, thank you so much. turning to another story in new york, the justice department investigation into rudy giuliani has entered a brand-new phase after federal agents executed search warrants at his home and office in new york city. they seized cell phones, computers as part of an investigation into giuliani's dealings with ukraine. the former mayor's attorney called the raids unjustified and insisted he could prove his conduct was legal and ethical. nbc's julia ainsley has been following this investigation. also with us, former federal prosecutor glenn kirschner and
frank figliuzzi, who served as former assistant director for counterintelligence at the fbi. julia, explain what is all of this about? >> well, at the moment, we don't exactly know what it is giuliani's being investigated for. we do know his business associates, which were tied to his business involvement in ukraine, have been charged. so far no charges on giuliani. what's interesting, stephanie, is why now? we reported back in december for a long time prosecutors wanted to obtain these electronic communications from giuliani and they believed they had enough evidence to go ahead and request a search warrant for those materials. we were told they did not want to do that before the election for obvious reasons, the doj tradition of not wanting to violent an interference in an upcoming election. then we thought it was appearance, we thought they could execute a search warrant almost any day. now we're almost in may and that
was finally carried out. so a lot of questions about why now? but it's clear they have enough evidence to be able to take to a judge what they have and go in and do what they did yesterday in both of these searches at giuliani's home and office. so now the question is, what do they have and will we see charges on giuliani? >> glenn, giuliani's attorney said this whole thing is unjustified. as someone who sought search warrants just like this, what do you say to that? >> a federal judge disagrees with rudy giuliani's lawyers because what goes into acquiring a search warrant, it's a pretty rigorous process. the fbi agents working the case will work in conjunction with the dodge prosecutors and they will put into an affidavit a sworn statement, the evidence they believe shows a crime has been committed and there's evidence to be found presently right now in the place to be searched and items to be seized. what are those places and items?
rudy giuliani's home, rudy giuliani's office, rudy giuliani's computers and rudy giuliani's cell phones. a federal judge assessed the evidence in the worn statement and concluded that the prosecutors and fbi agents had satisfied the probable cause standard and that's why the warrant was issued. now, in order circumstances, steph, this is a rigorous process. when it has to do with a search warrant for a lawyer's office and home and that lawyer is the president's attorney or former president's attorney, the scrutiny is heightened. so i'm going to go with the federal judge's assessment rather than rudy giuliani's lawyers. >> frank, i know you don't have firsthand knowledge of this specific situation, but they picked up cell phones and computers. what does that tell you they're looking for? >> certainly, they're looking for evidence in the federal crime. but here's the con gesture, here's what it looks like this
is about. clearly one of the charges that's being contemplated would be foreign agent's legislation act, failure to tell the government i'm looking for a foreign individual. but this is so much bigger than that. they're looking for evidence that essentially rudy giuliani was asking as a surrogate for a foreign power, even a foreign intelligence service like russia. why do i say that? let's not forget there was another person searched yesterday. that was victoria tones ig. who does she represent? dmitry fur tash. who is he? an oligarch out of ukraine, a gas company magnet, but he's tied directly to russia, its intelligence services, organized crimes, vladimir putin. this is going to be about whether they knew they were working for russia and whether rudy was feeding russian intelligence propaganda straight to president trump. "the washington post" reported
about this last year, said rudy was acting as a surrogate. what was trump's response in that "the washington post" article, he shrugged his shoulders and said, "that's rudy." well, that's rudy, maybe the russian surrogate. >> frank, does all of this make sense then this is about rudy failing to register as a foreign agent? if it is, how big of a deal is that? it doesn't sound that bad. >> it doesn't sound that bad until you layer on what we're talking about, which is was russia interfering with the 2016 election? was rudy knowingly acting as a russian surrogate pumping disinformation? was the attorney general at the time, bill barr, briefed by the fbi, hey, we're telling the white house this is a russian operation against biden digging up dirt on hunter biden? this is all a russian op and did
the ag ignore it? much bigger than a foreign agent case. >> glenn, do we have any idea where former president trump fits into all of this? >> no, but we may find out if rudy decides to flip and begin cooperating with prosecutors. look, we don't know whether rudy giuliani will be indicted but when you have these kind of consequential search warrants issued, you certainly are not moving away from an indictment. so, you know, rudy as well as anybody knows the value of cooperating with the federal investigation. so you have to believe as the department of justice today is pouring through the evidence they seized in those search warrants, you have to believe rudy is hunkering down with his lawyers and he's going to have to make some hard decisions about whether he wants to begin cooperating, and if so, who does he have criminal information about? >> glenn, you know who's not hunkering down, rudy giuliani's son, andrew.
he called what happened yesterday absurd, disgusting. he said, if this could happen to a former president's former lawyer, it could happen to any american. help me out here, isn't that a good thing? shouldn't there be no special treatment for a former president's former attorney? that's how a democracy works. >> yes, steph, like father, like son. if past is prologued, what happened last time the fbi executed search warrants on donald trump's former lawyer michael cohen? michael cohen pleaded guilty to multiple felony counts and ended up in prison. so let's keep an eye out for what happens to rudy. >> thank you all so much. this story is not going away and we're going to stay on it. coming up next -- my exclusive interview with labor secretary marty walsh. why he doesn't think unemployment benefits are keeping people from going out and getting a job.
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2021 as a number of states start to reopen. that is a very big number, but, remember, we were coming from relatively shutdown. president biden is happy about this news but he believes there's much more we need to do and the key to getting even more people back to work is affordable childcare. and the number of families i have been speaking to agree. at the height of the pandemic and with her children out of school, natasha kendrick had to make a difficult decision, stay home with her three kids or keep her job? >> i had to quit. >> reporter: eight months later the single mom is still without a job. >> i want to go back to work and i just need childcare. if i could have that, i will be okay. >> reporter: is it a vicious cycle, no childcare, no job. no job, no childcare? >> yes, it really is. >> reporter: it's not just parents struggling. childcare centers are being hit hard too. last year many parents pulled kids out because of fears over the virus. they had to limit the number of
children to account for social distancing. all of that led to layoffs and shutdowns. now one in six childcare workers are out of a job. is your business making a lot less money than it was a year ago? >> oh, yes, absolutely, 50% less. >> reporter: cecilia montero has been running a childcare center for nearly 40 years. >> we suffer a lot. >> reporter: do you think it will come back? >> i don't know. >> how come? >> because there's still a lot of people that don't have a job. >> reporter: president biden is proposing $225 billion to invest in childcare centers. increase wages for workers to a minimum of $15 an hour and make childcare affordable for low and middle income families. this on top of the $39 billion on target to shore up the industry. this in a year everyone paid a price. do you think our children feel it? >> of course. they feel it just like we feel it. >> childcare is foundational in
getting people back to work. it's pretty simple, you don't have childcare, you can't get parents back to work. that was a very big focus for president biden last night, jobs, jobs, jobs. and there's no one better to talk to about getting americans back to work than labor secretary marty walsh. i spoke to him earlier this morning. secretary, last night the president was talking about jobs, new jobs, creating jobs. a few months ago we had a serious job shortage and we need that. but today with the economy reopening, 42% of small businesses say they can't even find workers. are we actually heading for a labor shortage? >> i wouldn't say that. i think the investments the president is making in workforce development is key to recovery and retraining workers into new industries and new fields is something we should be doing. a lot of these industries have gone by the wayside through maybe covid-19 or other reasons, we have a huge opportunity here. >> but that's big picture long term. right now as more and more jobs open up and people aren't filling them, we do hear every
day employers say people are doing -- i shouldn't say so well, but they're getting a lot of government support with standard unemployment, stimulus. they're not going to come and even look for work until september. if they wait that long, these employers may have figured out we don't need the workers. >> i don't know if i agree with that. i think a lot of people are saying because of unemployment benefits, people aren't going back to work but people want to get a job. when you think about the workforce developing into a job that pays more than they did before, people are not going to turn their nose at that. >> have you spoken to restaurant owners and small businesses? >> i have spoken to a lot of them. >> they're not having a problem? >> no, my hometown particularly told me issues with unemployment as far as people not coming back to the work but we look at the numbers and numbers are not saying that. >> is anybody going to admit that? >> i think a lot is still coronavirus, people are still worried about coronavirus. not everyone is vaccinated. the president mentioned last night 75% of people that are 75 and older have gotten vaccinated. younger people have not been
vaccinated yet. i think that whole idea will change as more people get vaccinated. >> last night the president talked about raising the federal minimum wage. why aren't wages even going up naturally though? in kentucky this weekend, the kentucky derby, they're saying they can't find workers. in a state where the minimum wage is $7.25, and an ee scent that charges $15 a drink, why aren't wages just going up on their own? >> i think in some cases they're going up but not for the lowest skilled workers and that's a problem. when somebody looks me straight in the face and says $15 will ruin the economy, it hasn't ruined the economy anywhere it's been raised to $15 to $17 an hour. we should respect our workers. i agree with the president 100%. we're going to push and fight to get this passed through argument. >> that argument from employers if we pay more, we will have to raise prices and have inflation, a, why can't a lot of companies just make a little less money,
or, b, what's wrong with a little inflation? isn't that better than walmart employees having to be on food stamps? >> i believe companies should make a profit and keeps our economy growing. >> and they do. >> and they do. but i think they should pay their fair share and respect their employees. when i was going through my confirmation hearing, one of the senators asked me about the $7.25 minimum wage, and i thought to myself, you go to starbucks, a cup of coffee is $5. you work for an hour and get a cup of coffee. we need to help the american worker. >> do we need to look more at ceo versus worker pay? even in the last year when you looked at the highest paid ceos, they're from some of the industries hit the hardest, cruise lines, hotels and gaming industry. you think the fed and congress helping businesses and these guys making so much money when thousands and millions of people lose their jobs? do we need to look at that kind
of pay? >> i'm not as concerned how do i look at their pay, what do they make, but do they pay their fair share of taxes? people who earn good money, big money to pay taxes to keep us moving forward on infrastructure, roads and bridges and universe through -- university through pre-k, that's infrastructure. that keeps our country moving forward. if we look at the plan the president unveiled, two big ones, we put it all together, we're a different society. we can respect employees and make a profit. >> these initiatives were inspiring, amazing but they require a lot of money and very big government. that means these programs need to be executed well and they need to work. government doesn't work that well. how big of a risk are you taking here? >> i think the key there is really making sure the plans are
all done correctly. it's one thing passing them and announcing them but if they're not carried out right, the intention behind the plan didn't work out. if it's paid family time leave, or getting young people into school at a very early age, show when they graduate high school, the president talked about this last night, they get a chance for a pathway to college or a pathway to a career, you and i were talking about new industries off camera, this is important. >> i want to talk about that a bit more. the new jobs, jobs of the future, does that mean there's going to be serious reskilling training programs? to get those jobs of the future, you've got to have the skills? >> i think we have to partner with those companies so when these companies create these industries, we should partner with them. and bring them in and say, what do you need? what do you need from these workers? programming from computers or coding, i should say, of computers, whatever it might be, we should be working
hand-in-hand with companies to hen use investment from the federal to train workers for those industries. >> the best way to get people back to work is get more people vaccinated. we've had an extraordinary last couple of months. but things are definitely slowing down and we're getting political. when you think about vaccine hesitancy. does the administration have to take a different approach? monetary awards, recognition for states, race to the top, kind of like obama did with education? >> i wouldn't say that. i think we have to explain to people the importance of getting vaccinated. i know some people don't believe in vaccines but coronavirus took over a half a million american lives. it is a real, real virus. it can still kill people. so i think for people to protect yourself and protect their families, i would encourage you to get the vaccine. i would encourage you to talk to your doctor and see what your doctor says about it. >> when we think about the c.a.r.e.s. act, when it first
came out, and money went in some cases to the wrong places but that was case. now we're over a year into it and the administration's plan, we're talking trillions of dollars, do we need to look at more targeted support? we still have a moratorium on foreclosures and the housing market is up 30%. >> i think the concern was -- i was in a different role then, i was the mayor of boston. my concern were people owning homes would lose their homes, people renting would be put out on the street, people owning businesses, their business would be evicted. >> that was a year ago. >> but we're still not out of the virus. as we get through the next couple of months, we will see a lot of these safety nets, if you will, phased out and be moving back into hopefully a new norm. >> and in the next few months expect labor secretary walsh and commerce secretary gina rimando, she's from massachusetts and he's from rhode island, they know one another well, they will most likely be working together on these reskilling programs,
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anything that is really ten jible, that'ste really reflecti you value black people in a way where we can progress as a people. >> i don't know if i really felt good about the vote. the only thing is, i wanted to -- i wanted to see something shift. >> i introduced him when he came toen milwaukee. i haven't heard from his campaign. i haven't heard -- i gave what i could. now i'm waiting i for the gift be returned. >> reporter: if you value black people, let that be reflected in your policies and they want more than just talk, stephanie. they want real action. >> trymaine if you think two bs and ahi c are not bad grades my kids will ask if they can move in withl you. i spoke to congresswoman val demings and she's optimistic police reform will happen, not just in milwaukee county but voters across the country. what sense are you getting about police reform? >> youli know what's really tou
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