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good day, everyone. this is andrea mitchell reports where president biden is preparing for the biggest night of his presidency. it will look very different than what past presidents have experienced. >> madam speaker. >> the president of the united states. >> tonight just a fraction of that normal crowd. only 200 attendees will be there. he will roll out his
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infrastructure bill as well as a call for sweeping reform. tim scott will be delivering the gop response to the president's address. i will be joined exclusively by house speaker nancy pelosi to discuss tonight's speech. but we are joined first by peter alexander. peter, there is a lot the president wants to showcase, a lot of big dollars. what should we watch for first? >> it was 47 years ago that president biden first sat in one of these chambers with president nixon. tonight he will be delivering one. this will be history making with the venue he is delivering it. just one member of the supreme court. the chief justice john roberts will be there. the secretary of state as well as the defense secretary and
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behind the president two women as well, the vice president and your next guest nancy pelosi. it will be two women who share that image beamed across the country and globe. the president said he would serve as a bridge. tonight this will relate to the central topic of his speech, the american families plan, the latest in a series of ambitious proposals. it focuses on elder care and child care and paid family leave as well as a series of other things associated with education. specifically $200 billion to play for free universal pre-k for 3 and 4-year-olds and money for college as well.
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the pay for it will be a challenge. the president will be calling for raising taxes on wealthiest, investors. the challenge is the total price tag. now it will be up to $6 trillion in spending he has called for. he stares in the oval office at fdr who transformed this country and as this president will be be i atremting to do. >> a trillion here and there. you are talking about real money. how do you get past the dollar signs? >> i think the argument, the president himself has said it. it won't affect the top 1% of
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americans. it is a smaller sliver of that. the republicans promised bipartisan, but had no relief in his covid relief bill. he believes he has been bipartisan by speaking to republican voters. and on these issues, even though the popularity for the president is low among republicans, it is high among independents. he feels confident they have the wind at their back as they pursue it. the question is how much do they get and will republicans be on board or do they need to do it alone? >> peter alexander, we will be watching. and we are watching exclusively from the capitol house speaker pelosi. snooping thank you for having me.
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>> it's an historic day. start with what you want to hear in tonight's speech, first speech by a democratic president to a democratic house in five years. how does it feel? >> it's exciting and wonderful to make history. it's about time. i made history when i was the first speaker to be standing behind president bush and he made note of that. this is exciting. let's talk not only about making history, but progress for the american people. that's what president biden will be doing. we are so pleased with what has happened so far in the first 100 days, the rescue package, surpassing his goals, doubling his goals to 200 million people having shots in the arm.
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150 million checks, workers back to work. now the rescue package, time for the recovery plan. that's what we will hear about tonight. we will be making history and progress because it will be transformative. it will be transformative calling upon the traditions of our party's persistent bold experimentation working for the people. people want to hear what it means in their lives. we are excited. it's consistent with what democrats have campaigned on for the people. lower health care costs. bigger paychecks by building the infrastructure in a green way and passing a bill for cleaner
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voter government and stopping voter suppression. so it is big personally as well as economically. >> i want to ask you about the different look tonight. much smaller audience, only 200 people. at a security meeting, you said you wished there had been a similar briefing ahead of january 6. what is the situation tonight? >> tonight is small. it's usually 1600 people. it's going to be 200 people tonight. but that is largely because of covid, a number put on by the capitol physician. that dictates how many people can be in a room.
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the more people that are vaccinated, the more people can be in a room so we want people in congress to be vaccinated. i don't know if it would have made any difference. but right now we are going forward. we are hardening the windows and doors. per the architect of the capitol, it's about investing in the capitol police, add to the numbers and training and intelligence available. i mention them and salute them because they saved our lives that day. no one adequately predicted a president of the united states would incite an insurrection, but they risked their own lives. >> we are hearing republican
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pushback to the president's new family plan with initiatives like universal pre-k, which are popular, but what about the tax increases that have to go alongs with it? >> this bill is $1.8 that the president is putting for the. they didn't have any hesitation with.$1.9 million to reward the top percent. using some of that money they rewarded the rich with before. we don't have anything against people having success. but as we meet the budgets of the people, that's a statement of values. the particulars that president biden is butting for is the value saying that people matter. we want to invest in our
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children and workforce so as we build back better, we have a trained workforce. many people able to participate. what we are doing in terms of seniors and care for them, that many more women can participate in the fullest way. that certainly ensures that we will build back better. this has integrity to it. the narrative is that this is for the people. for the people. for the people the president is going to be fiscally responsible as we invest. many of these investments brings more money to the treasury. nothing brings more money to the treasury than early investment, pre-k, lifetime earnings.
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i'm so pleased because we are on a path. we are on a better path for the people. again, what he is talking about is some of what the republicans did in their tax scam to give tax breaks to the top, top, wealthiest people in the country. >> police reform and judicial reform is a major part. karen bass has been talking to tim scott in the senate about limiting the qualified immunity to police officers but also having the departments be liable. are you any closer on an
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agreement? it has been in the senate for a year. and what is your guidance to bass will having negotiations with tim scott? >> karen bass has been authorized to have negotiations with republicans, with tim scott. we could not be in better hands. let's put it this way. may 24, may 25 was the assassination, the lynching, of george floyd. the second week in june she already had a bill introduced by the 25th of june the bill passed the house. we are still hoping -- we passed it again this session, hoping that it will pass the senate. she is on a good path. she is respected for her knowledge. she is weighing the equities about how we get the job done. remember. remember that millions of people
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were in the streets, across the world saying that we needed to do something, and we do. i am optimistic that we will. from our standpoint under the leadership of karen bass, with tim scott, with cory booker in the senate, a number of members in the house working with them. and working with the republicans on the house side as well. >> january 6, i spoke with the joint chiefs about the national guard response time. what he said is in direct conflict of what was said by the d.c. national guard. >> to bring in the amount of guardsman that was needed, i thought the decision-making was quick and responded quickly.
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>> according to the former commander of the d.c. guard, he had them mobilizing and had them on buses. could have had them there in 18 minutes. the capitol was breached around 2:00. it did take several hours. are you familiar with what happened with the acting director of the army and others, maybe civilians, that delayed the request of the speaker of the house. >> i am very familiar with it. there was, to my knowledge, and i have pretty good personal knowledge on this stuff, there was no specific attempt to delay the deployment of the national guard. that is just false. >> that isn't false and i was there and can attest what happened there. but let's hear people talk about it in a commission to find the truth. i have the highest regard for
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general milley, but he doesn't know if he presents what you just presented. the fact is he could have been there sooner and there had could have been less destruction and the rest. that's why we are looking to have a 9/11 type commission. we have talked to republicans and they say let's have it, but let's look about what happened last summer, with the riots. no, this is about insurrection of our democracy. no debate about this. let's put it on the record under oath so we can get to the truth. but i can tell you from firsthand knowledge in the room that day that the second of the army delayed even making the request to the acting secretary of defense. that caused much mayhem, but
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let's not debate it here. let's have a commission to find the truth. i want it to be bipartisan because i think that is important to the integrity of it all, but we will have the truth. >> i understand there was a conference calls with leaders, you and republican leaders, bi cammeral and you were pleading for help and it did not arrive. >> an assault was made on democracy. the people instigated by the president to come to the capitol were trying to get the mahogany
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boxes that contained the votes of the electoral college. this was just not any day. this was a day constitutionally required to ascertain who would be president of the united states. that destruction of our democracy used to violate our capitol and congress at the incity gags of the president is something we must set the record straight on. whatever view that some others may have of the timing of the national guard coming was soon enough. >> do you have any thoughts on
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the ruling by a federal judge about not detaining those who were not committing violence? >> they want to criticize the president on the one hand but not wanting to do anything about it. i am not going into what happens in any particular courtroom. i will never forgive those people and the president who instigated the insurrection for the trauma they caused to the workers in the capitol, whether the young people who work in our offices, whether custodial staff, whether it was the capitol police. they messed up my office, broke mirrors and stole stuff, who cares. but i do care that the impact, the negative impact, the fright they instilled in people because
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they were doing their civic duty in the congress of the united states. we can have all kinds of talk about who did what, but those people who came desecrated their capitol. they tried to destroy mahogany boxes. they scared the vice president to go their way. i am always under threat so nothing new for me. if they want to defecate the capitol of the united states -- they were so horrible and disrespectful. and yet our republican colleagues at the end of that day when we went back, and to his credit mitch mcconnell was right there with us, we are going back to the capitol -- that was bicameral in our intent
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and what we intended to do. the republican members of the house, two/thirds of them voted that the count was not obviously what it was was really was a statement of their lack of -- >> mccarthy was saying president trump was right about the election. >> i am not going into that. how we can build again and build institution that command more
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respect by the american people than was demonstrated by those thugs who attacked police officers and were on a quest to harm others. i don't want to talk about kevin mccarthy. i want to talk about the truth and how we go forward to protect that capitol, find out the truth for the american people to know and also to protect our institutions. and the respect that they command among the american people. this is about patriotism. to do anything with partisanship or politics. it's about patriotism for our country and is about respecting the vision of our founders about this democracy. it's about honoring the sacrifice of our men and women in uniform who fight to protect it. it's about the vision of our children for their future.
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that they know what we do is for a democracy with lebty and justice for all. we pledge it every day. >> speaker pelosi, thank you for being with us. >> thank you very much. >> we will be watching tonight. and putin, how president biden intends to deal with him. all of that and jake sullivan. stay with us. d jake sullivan. stay with us the bowls are back. applebee's irresist-a-bowls all just $8.99. it's so busted, you can't use this part of the screen. definitely cracked every phone i've owned. (vo) you broke your phone. so verizon broke the rules.
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president biden has dramatically changed the u.s. approach to russian president putin from president trump. biden has had tough calls but is still suggesting a summit. what will he do if russia continues to be on ukraine's border. i asked jake sullivan that. >> he is a man of his word. he said he wasn't seeking to
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escalate, wanted a stable relationship. he offered to sit down with vladimir putin in the third country this summer to talk about items including the integrity of ukraine. he intends to follow through on that if we can find a date and location that works. i am not getting into hypotheticals if russia goes into ukraine. but the president has communicated his concern about russia's buildup and his view that the united states, alongside other partners also stand firmly in defense of ukraine's sovereignty and integrity. that's what we will do forward, but we will do that through communication, not through open air statements. >> how concerned are you about
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alexei navalny? >> we are extremely concerned. we have indicated both privately and publicly that there would of course be consequences if mr. navalny passed away. there was better news in recent days than a week or so ago, but by no means has our concern of mr. navalny's health abated? >> is china our biggest challenge? >> china is the most strategic challenge facing the united states. it is a country that is growing in economic clout, advancing its military capabilities and acting in increasingly aggressive and assertive ways including against our allies. the u.s. has made clear we welcome competition with china, but we will stand firmly with our partners and where china
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refuses to operate by rules, we will respond accordingly. we don't have to pull punches to secure their help on climate change. it is profoundly in their interest to work on those issues as well. >> the president wants to get back into the iran nuclear deal and negotiate a tougher deal. the talks appear stalemated. what are the prospects realistically for a deal? >> we believe ultimately we can work for a compliance to compliance basis to get back to the iran nuclear deal and use that to pursue a longer and stronger deal with iran. >> is israel being unhelpful in this yard with the suspected cyber attacks against iran's facilities? >> i have personally met with the security adviser from israel multiple times. he will be in washington this
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week to talk through face-to-face to talk through our common strategic objective which is to prevent iran from ever getting nuclear weapons. those are best behind closed doors. >> would you prefer no one attack iran while you are trying to get negotiations started? >> there are certain activities unhelpful to diplomacy. at the same time we believe firmly and passionately that israel and us have a path of no surprises, that we are communicating with one another. >> on afghanistan the president is carrying out his plan to end forever wars. it is said that the taliban's pace of attacks are higher than ever. if the taliban takes over, will
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the united states do anything to protect the rights of women's and girls. >> we are ending our military presence burks we are not ending our commitment to protecting women and girls. there will be other forms of assistance to help the government secure their future. >> the president made a commitment to diversity in foreign policy and the cabinet. in the state department there's several hundred years, going back to the origins of white male leadership at most levels. the criticism is that it is white male and yale, something
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you have familiarity with, so how do you get more diversity? >> this is a problem at the state department and across establishment. it is true with racial and ethnicity and gender. we have more work to do up and down the ranks to elevate those perspectives so our entire enterprise looks like america and represents all of america. what to do about it? first, we have to make it a priority. we cannot work for a rank that doesn't include bigger diversity. >> our thanks to jake sullivan for that conversation. we have breaking news from "the new york times".
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a search warrant has been served on rudy giuliani. it would be an extraordinary move. if this has taken place this is an escalation in this on going federal investigation to seize electronic devices apparently and have a search warrant at a home of a lawyer -- and this is not any lawyer. this is the president's lawyer. it is extraordinary and would indicate that this investigation is heating up. we will have more on that as soon as we have details. that is colleagues at "the new york times" reporting it. and the shooting of andrew brown jr. what has the judge decided on the video? >> well, the judge here, judge
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foster has decided there are four video, all of which he has seen, all are body camera videos, and the decision is that they will be disclosed to the family. that means the oldest son and an attorney who is licensed in the state of florida will be able to view the videos, but the videos will not be complete. the judge says there are conversations on portions of the video preceding or after, that will not be included and that those videos will have the faces smeared of the officers as well as their names on their uniforms. the attorney representing the officers say already there have been some attempts to make threats on what are believed to be the officers involved in the shooting a week ago today. the shooting that was the ex-cue
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cute /* -- execute a warrant for arrest on drug charges tht ended with gunfire and the death of mr. brown. the judge said in 30 to 45 days there may be a release of the video. the district attorney didn't want the video out fearing it might prejudice a jury, and when he said that, it was potential charges against the officers. he said the reason they have the 30 to 45-day delay is to investigation can be determined by the state bureau of investigation if they are going to bring charges. if there are no charges, the judge says he will play the video at a press conference so everybody can see it and he will explain what people are seeing. >> we have confirmed the
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breaking news from "the new york times." it is said that federal investigators have executed a search warrant at the home of former lawyer of mr. trump, rudy giuliani. michael broke this story. can you explain where they are and how unusual it would be to have a search warrant at the former president's attorney's apartment. >> my colleague is reporting on this today and it's pretty significant. executing a search warrant is one of the most aggressive steps prosecutors can take. it is particularly significant because last year as this investigation was working its way through, prosecutors wanted to execute a search warrant but were stopped from doing that by
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the trump/barr justice department. now here we are eight days after there is confirmation of the attorney general for biden, the approval has been given. that investigation which began several years ago at this point, is accelerating, gaining momentum here after it had been slowed at the end of last year. >> michael, obviously this is now -- they are going to have to own this politically. the fact is this is a major escalation. they don't do a search warrant unless they have a grand jury as well. >> you need approval from a federal judge to do this. it is seen as incredibly invasive in any investigation. it is seen as particularly
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invasive with an investigation involving a lawyer, as in this case rudy giuliani was the president's lawyer. to go in and get this is a very adversarial move. it is going into someone's home and taking something they believe is essential to the investigation and is like tloi -- likely to have information that is damaging to the person they are taking it from. it's an overt move, something that will come out. here we are learning about it hours after it happened. it creates headlines and indicates a sense of momentum and urgency to an investigation which looked like it had been slowed and stalled last year. >> what is the relationship we
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know of between giuliani? is he still a lawyer for donald trump or should we refer to him as the former lawyer? >> following who the president's lawyers are at any moment is difficult. or former president. he went through so many in the federal investigation phase and impeachment and such. i think the most recent thing i had seen and heard was that giuliani was no longer representing the president. now as we all remember, july indiana /* -- giuliani was a key person at the time they made the false claims about the election and tried to challenge it. giuliani spoke on januarytime t
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about the election and tried to challenge it. giuliani spoke on januaryhey mat the election and tried to challenge it. giuliani spoke on january 6. now he is no longer representing the president but still has ties to him and is seen as somewhat close to him. >> michael, jonathan of nbc news has confirmed this has happened. we will be talking to him in a moment. but we also know that rudy giuliani was a key player in the impeachment because of his representations on ukraine. he has off and on been a major factor and so very close to the president. former president, excuse me. >> even dating back further than that giuliani came in in the middle of the moehler
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investigation. he made these outlandish claims about the moehler investigation. moehler didn't do much to defend himself and giuliani had a significant impact on how the public viewed that investigation, even when it was pointed out that what giuliani was saying was not true or he was exaggerating things. he has been a central player in trump's legal struggles all of the way back to 2018 when moehler was zeroing in on trump. he has had a wealth of knowledge and intimately involved in a range of things and considered to be allied and close to the former president. >> in terms of this whole issue of the ukraine representation. he has denied doing anything
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improper in this case. >> correct. he has done anything. he has been open about what he has done to some extent. he has spoken publicly about his efforts to go to ukraine and develop this information. he has claimed he was just trying to help the president right a wrong, get to the bottom of this stuff. sometimes giuliani's explanations can be convoluted. he has talked about a fair amount of this publicly. a fair amount came out in the impeachment trial. it will be interesting to see how much of this conduct they are examining. that was in the first impeachment. >> he was fundamental in trying to develop dirt on hunter biden. he was roundly criticized that
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he even offended mike pompeo. all of it that was tied up with rudy giuliani. two sources who witnessed what happened at the giuliani apartment say they saw this go down. >> that's our understanding. it happened at his upper east side apartment. giuliani had kept a base here in new york. and that that lines up with our understanding of what happened. that this had gone down earlier at his apartment on the upper east side. we hadn't heard anything from
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giuliani yet. we haven't heard anything from trump. my guess is that by the end of the day these are folks that are not shy from trying to push back or comment on these type of things. it will be interesting how forward leaning giuliani is. >> what typically happens when the fbi comes to your apartment and say they have a warrant. presumably anyone there would have to honor that warrant. so whether a housekeeper or any other staff, they would have to let them in, correct? >> correct. they come with their badges and guns like they do in any type of situation and they come with the warrant itself that has been signed by a federal judge and that gives them the authority to come in and take the specific things that they have been authorized through the warrant to have access to. as we have recorded in our story, giuliani's electronics
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were taken in the course of this. so usually the agents would have a list of different types of electronics or documents or notebooks or anything that they are specifically looking for that they are able to go in and legally take. there is a standard production in search warrants. but not every day is something as high profile as this is done and on a lawyer of a former president. >> somebody who thought about running against hillary clinton for senate in 2000.
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jonathan, you were first to confirm for nbc that this actually took place? >> yeah. we were told from multiple sources that the fbi did hit two locations. one the upper east side apartment of rudy giuliani and also his park avenue office building as a search for electronics. this happened early this morning we are told. fbi spokesman and u.s. attorney spokesman so far not commenting at all. we are perhaps expecting some sort of statement out of washington, out of the fbi offices there later today. and we are waiting to hear back from rudy giuliani's lawyer. that means a judge here in new york felt there was enough evidence of possible criminality to authorize a search warrant and authorize the fbi to go in
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and look for materials as to whether rudy giuliani attempted to have ukrainian officials investigate hunter biden. he was former trump's lawyer. months we heard there has been work to get a search warrant approved. now under the biden administration and this justice department, they believe there is evidence to go forward and conduct these searches and see if any impropriety took place. >> did you say two locations? >> our understanding is both madison avenue apartment building and a park avenue office building.
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we have crews on the way to both locations to try to speak with residents and workers and see if we can obtain any video of the actual searches that took place this morning. >> thanks to you. ken, if you want to fill in details from the washington perspective. this is an enormous escalation of a federal investigation into one of the president's closest associates -- former president. >> it goes back to the investigation people may remember to the two soviet men who are facing unrelated crimes. remember, they were working with giuliani to dig up dirt about joe biden in ukraine. what is amazing about this saga, is that there was a russian
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disinformation to discredit joe biden. some of that information was finding its way to rudy giuliani, the president's lawyer. apparently that element of saga is laws and was paid by foreign sources to potentially lobby american officials. but the larger picture here is that there was a disinformation operation to try to discredit joe biden. the russians wanted to interfere in our election and rudy giuliani was deeply enmeshed in that, andrea. >> and joining us now, ken, former u.s. attorney, top official chuck rosenberg. chuck, what is your take on how big a deal this is? >> it's a big deal, andrea, to put it into technical terms. it's a big deal when the justice department gets a search warrant based on probable cause to search any lawyer's office. but remember, mr. juli is not any lawyer. he was the president's personal
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lawyer. and so when they go to a federal judge and seek permission, they have to convince that judge, they have to convince her that they believe the crime has been committed and that they're going to find evidence of that crime in the place where they're looking. and that has to be reasonably fresh. that means probable cause. the standard has to be updated. and they have to believe the stuff is there now. that's all very compelling and very interesting. and somewhat unusual. >> so when you say reasonably fresh, are we talking about within the time frame of the biden administration or could this actually go back to when donald trump was president? >> that's a great question. the evidence could go back to when mr. trump was president. what i mean is that they have to believe that the stuff they're looking for is there now. so let's say you're looking for
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a gun from a bank robbery. there's a staleness doctrine, andrea, after a year, two years, three years you wouldn't expect that the gun would still be in the bad guy's night table. but one week after the bank robbery would make perfect sense that you would find the gun in the bad guy's apartment. they had to convince the federal judge again that they had probable cause to believe a crime was committed, and they would find stuff relevant to that crime where they were looking for it, in his apartment, in his electronic devices, on his phone, on his laptop. whatever stuff they asked permission to seize and search. so the evidence could go way back. but my point is that they had at least a reasonably good idea, probable cause that it was currently in his apartment. >> and they also according to jonathan dienst, searched his park avenue office, his law office. >> yeah.
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and that makes perfect sense because a lawyer can keep stuff anywhere, electronic files, paper files, evidence of his communications. one really important point that i should add here, andrea, because it's the search of a lawyer's office, because they took legal stuff, the u.s. attorney's office will create a filter team, a clean team, a team that will look at the stuff that's seized before it's passed to the investigative team. that is a mechanism that we routinely use when we are searching through lawyers' stuff to make sure the investigative team only looks at things that they can have for their investigation and not things they are precluded from having based on an attorney-client privilege or an attorney-client relationship. so you can be certain that there is a filter team or a clean team that is first reviewing anything
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that is seized from mr. giuliani. >> and of course as you've stated there had to be probable cause to get a judge to approve the warrants. at what stage do they bring this to a grand jury? >> well, another great question. so you can do those things soim tainsly. you don't have to do one and then the other. they can have an open grand jury investigation. the grand jury can be subpoenaing records and hearing if witnesses. that can be ongoing. and perhaps -- this is surmised. but perhaps when the grand jury has established enough information they have a quantum of proof, they have probable cause, then the u.s. attorney's office with the fbi can execute a search warrant. so it's not one and then the other. they can run on parallel tracks. >> so a sitting grand jury could already have looked at the evidence that led to the probable cause determination by the federal judge.
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this clearly is a big escalation in the ongoing investigation into rudy giuliani. >> yeah. i think of it more as the public piece of the investigation, right? so for very good reasons, as you can imagine, and as i know your viewers can imagine, investigations are done quietly, secretly, privately because it may turn out that the person you're investigating has done nothing wrong. at some point if you have enough evidence, if you have probable cause, if you need to execute a search warrant, then your investigation becomes public. and so you used the word escalation. i think it's a fair word. but i would really describe it as the public portion of the investigation. the point at which investigators, agents and prosecutors are comfortable going public and taking this investigation into a new phase. >> how is rudy giuliani viewed among former prosecutors?
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since he was at one point a crime-busting u.s. attorney, held in very high regard. >> so i'd rather answer it this way, andrea. my dear departed mother always told me never to speak ill of anyone. so i will say that in the past rudy giuliani was held in high regard by many of us who grew up in the justice department. he was respected as a prosecutor and obviously led one of the most important u.s. attorney's office in the country. i think views of him have largely changed. but again, i'm going to honor the advice of my dear departed mother. >> it's really good advice for all of us. so rudy giuliani, though, such a focus as donald trump's former -- certainly former attorney but perhaps still close associate. now being investigated in such a public way. this clearly is something that
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the current administration is going to have to defend. ken dilanian, if you're still with us, let's talk about the ripple effects of all of this. >> andrea, i think you're making a really important point. especially because our colleague tom winter has reported there was a delay in obtaining this warrant that some people believe was political, that the fbi was seeking it during the trump administration and was meeting resistance and now it's been granted in the biden administration. now, what chuck rosenberg would say and i'm sure it's true is that that happened on the merits, because the fbi made their case and there was probable cause and really what was political was the resistance. but you can be sure that on fox news and other forums there will be wide speculation that this is a political decision, that the biden administration is now going after trump's lawyer. because that's the climate we're in right now. that's what four years of donald trump politicizing the intelligence community and the justice department and the fbi has left us with.
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and so that's going to be something that the biden justice department is going to have to push back against and dechd itself against, andrea. >> let's talk again briefly about the intelligence aspects of this because so many people within the state department and the nsc were really slimed by those false accusations about ukraine. it was career-ending for so many people. >> that's right. rudy giuliani spent a lot of time trying to get rid of the then u.s. ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch. that was a main focus of his activities as he was trying gather negative information about joe biden and he was trying convince president trump that people in the state department and career government officials were working against him, were part of the deep state. and i think there are a lot of questions about who was paying for rudy giuliani's efforts in ukraine and information-gathering efforts. that is i believe part of the focus of this investigation and whether he disclosed all the
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sources of the payments and all the lobbying that he was doing, both of the trump administration and in ukraine, andrea. >> and chuck rosenberg, finally what would be the next step on this? just in the last 30 seconds here. when would we expect to hear something more? >> so it's going to take a while to go through the stuff that was seized. and it's also going to take a while for the clean team or the filter team to pass it to the investigative team. so i wouldn't expect anything immediately or even quickly. good investigations are done thoroughly and we are just going to have to be a little bit patient, i think, andrea. >> chuck rosenberg and ken dilanian. jonathan dienst. mike schmidt. for all of you on the breaking news thank you. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." i'll be part of tonight's coverage of the president's address to a joint session of congress tonight on your local nbc station. starting at 9:00 p.m. eastern. brian williams, rachel maddow, joil reid, nicole wallace, all the complete coverage right here
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before and after the speech as well. follow our show online on facebook and twitter @mitchellreports. i'll be with chuck todd tonight. and he picks it up now with "mtp daily" only on msnbc. ♪♪ welcome to wednesday. it is "meet the press daily." i'm chuck todd here in washington. and as you've just been digesting, we've got the breaking news that involves the president -- former president's former lawyer, and former new york city mayor and former u.s. attorney rudy giuliani. sources have confirmed to nbc news that giuliani's apartment was -- there was a search warrant and federal officials officially went inside his apartment and commandeered some things that they needed thanks to an fbi search warrant. jonathan dienst reported just moments ago that it appears two locations were actuall

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