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you look back at this year. the year of the murder hornet. how did we ever get through it. >> there was a lot of hype about the murder hornet and they didn't turn out to be as big a problem, but the cicadas are about to descent on washington. >> we will see you on peacock where we will be covering president biden's first address to biden. >> where we will talk about becoming murder hornets. >> at 8:00 p.m. eastern on peacock. we'll see you all there. it will be so fun. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. ♪♪ ♪♪ hi there. i'm stephanie ruhle live in washington, d.c., our nation's capital. it is april 28th, let's get smarter. president biden will address congress and a speech that will be historic in both substance and setting. it comes on his 99th day in office and will lay out a
sweeping agenda for the next four years. that includes both the american jobs plan and the american families plan which will be unveiled tonight. it commits nearly $2 trillion to everything from universal preschool to free community college. joining me now to break it down, abc's shannon pettypiece near the white house, and vaughn hilliard just outside. shannon, let's start with president biden. what are we going to hear tonight? >> a big focus this address will be laying out what the white house is calling the american families plan. this is a very ambitious, $1.8 trillion plan that would include things like universal pre-k for everyone regardless of income, free community college tuition. so access to community college for everyone. it would also include some level of paid leave for parents. now all of this, the president said, is going to be paid for in large part by increasing taxes on the wealthiest americans and
increasing the capital gains tax and of course, this new plan comes as the president is also trying to get through a $2 trillion infrastructure plan and that includes everything from funding roads and bridges to electric vehicles and a new railway system. so two very big spending packages, the president is trying to get through and at the same time white house officials are saying, look for him and expect him to make a big push on police reform. he is expected to bring up george floyd and call on republicans to work with democrats in congress to get through some sort of policing reform. a lot of things on the president's agenda that he's going to be laying out tonight. >> garrett, we already got a counter to biden's infrastructure plan from republicans last week. i'm guessing the america family plan, they will say absolutely not. no way. what's in store? >> we know the republicans are not keen to have the tax increases laid out in the family plan, and there will be time for
that with the republican response to president biden's speech. that's going to come from south carolina senator tim scott. of course, the only black republican senate. he is the face of the police reform effort on the senate side and i'm interested to see how he handles this tonight. he's comfortable working outside the spotlight and having to give the response for his party, a response that will be critical of biden's policies and not critical of biden personally and that's been the senate republican attack thus far. that element will be interesting and how he chooses to respond to the elements of president biden's speech about police reform given that he is so intimately involved with that. as for the other republicans that we will see in the chamber. of course, attendance is limited tonight and most of the republican leadership and an interesting mix of rank and file including some of the incendiary new members will be in the chamber tonight. we'll see what that leads to, steph.
>> vaughn, for the last four months you have stood exactly where you are, and i have asked the question over and over, but the risk hasn't dissipated at all. what is security going to be like at the capitol tonight? this is a high pressure situation. >> reporter: yeah, stephanie what has changed since those days following january 6th is there is still this protective barrier that remains around the capitol and there are 2300 national guard members that are overseeing this capitol complex, helping out capitol police as well as the metropolitan police department, but what is additionally going to take place today is once the sun begins to go down, these streets, constitution avenue and other streets around this capitol complex are going to begin to shut down and in order to get into the actual capitol and the capitol i.d. badge that i have, and even particular members of congress, they do not have the special credentials they would
take to get into the capitol. the only folks that are able to get in is only with those credentials. this has been deemed by the department of homeland security to be a national special event which puts the secret service in charge of overseeing coordination with local law enforcement as well as with the capitol police, and we should also know, you will be seeing when president biden enters that chamber he will be brought in by the new house sergeant at arms, vice speaker pelosi, major general william walker who used to oversee the d.c. national guard. he is now in charge of the chamber security. he'll be the one you will hear speak those words, madam speaker, the president of the united states. those are the security apparatus around here ahead of his joint address tonight. >> shannon, let's talk about the historic nature of tonight's address.
it doesn't matter what political party you support. it will be pretty special to see for the first time ever two women sitting behind the president of the united states, vice president harris and speaker pelosi. we've never seen anything like it. also, there will be a fraction of the number of people we usually see in a house chamber for a speech like this and not because of any boycott. it's about safety and security. we're still in the middle of a pandemic. >> the security aspect that vaughn's talking about, the physical security and there's also the security about the risk of covid and that's one of the most notable differences that we will see. there will only be 200 people in that chamber. normally there's about 1600. there will only be been representative from the supreme court, the chief justice. there will only be two members of the cabinet, the secretary of state and the defense secretary. a much different optic. people will be socially distanced. the vice president and the speaker of the house will be seated behind president biden. we anticipate both of them will be wearing masks per the chamber
rules, and of course, not only is it notable to have those two women back there and the vice president will be the first person of color seated in that prominent position. >> all right. for all of you, i know you will be covering this tonight. i will be here and for you at home, join me, nicole reed for our special coverage of president biden's first address to congress this evening. it all starts at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. now we have to turn to the big announcement we got yesterday on masks. if you are outside and you are vaccinated, you no longer need to wear them. president biden said yesterday that the cdc's new guidance is thanks to, quote, stunning progress in the fight against covid. let's dig deeper. nbc's tom costello has more from the cdc and dr. ashish jha dean
at the university of public health. tom, why don't we start by breaking down this guidance? >> yeah. listen, the bottom line here, there is a big, long, cdc graphic that is color coded green, yellow and red explaining it all and the bottom line is if you are vaccinated you can do everything outside without a mask and the only caveat being if you go to a big sport event and a concert then they do recommend you put the mask back on. if you are not vaccinated you can go out and exercise without a mask, you can go for a walk, walk the dog and they are urging you to keep the mask on if you are around other people who are not vaccinated or if you eat outside. the bottom line is that the cdc is acting on science which suggests that the risk is very, very low if you are outside of contracting covid. so we put the question to dr. fauci on the "today" show, what
took so long? why is the cdc only now coming out with this guidance? >> there's always that argument that the cdc tends to be a bit conservative and they do that because they want to make sure they get it completely right and err always on the side of safety. right now they're going slow about it and being prudent about it, but as the case numbers come down they'll be pulling back on some of the restrictions, guaranteed. >> okay. a couple of important points and we're talking about being outside. if you're at the barber, the church or synagogue, you are encouraged to still wear a mask regardless of whether you are vaccinated because that is where this virus is spreading. as you know, 54% of americans have now received one dose, and that also means that half of the country has not received one dose. this is still very much a work in progress, but again, for the most part if you're outdoors you can not wear a mask as long as
your local authorities are onboard with that, as well. >> tom costello, you've got me dizzy, just to go to a concert, i would like to wear a hazmat suit, a hat and a muzzle. >> you at a springsteen concert, i don't see that happening. you at a springsteen concert wearing a hazmat suit. >> maybe just a red bandanna. dr. jha, what do you think will be the next step? >> i'm excited. i am, too, and i also would be happy to be in a hazmat suit to see the boss. the cdc science is based on skiesence. dr. fauci is right. if you're fully vehiclesated outdoor activities are all right, except for packed events and if you're not because the
benefits are substantial. what i would expect to see in the upcoming weeks as case numbers drop and i expect case numbers to come down as more people get vaccinated that even some more of the indoor stuff will start getting safer to be able to do without masks and it may be a little while before cdc gets there. again, cdc will want to be very cautious about these things. you know, after a whole year of the kind of suffering we went through, i don't think it's unreasonable for the cdc to be extra cautious at this moment. that's what i expect. i see more pulling back as case numbers drop and right now case numbers are still quite high in most states and so we want to be careful. >> dasha, michigan just a few weeks ago numbers are really bad there. what are people there telling you about how president biden is leading this fight against covid? >> hey, stephanie, good morning. michigan is still very much in the thick of its battle with covid-19, and we wanted to come here and particularly to kent
county around president biden's 100 days because this is a county that he flipped from red to blue for just the second time in half a century and this pandemic had a lot to do with that. i followed up with the voters that we've been following now for more than a year, and i asked him to give president biden a 100 days report card to grade him on those issues and his handling of the pandemic got him by far the highest marks and straight as across the board and he's been keeping and exceeding his promises on this issue. i want you to hear from two of the voters we spoke with. cynthia timerman is a lifelong republican and she voted for joe biden. her husband is high risk and her two daughters got severely ill from covid-19 and darryl ross is a restaurant owner whose community has been hard hit pie this. take a listen. >> it's been wonderful to see
the biden administration actually come in late to the party, but develop a distribution and come in here. >> coming into the obstacles he came into, i don't know what he could have done better and again, i think he's put his actions where his words were. >> stephanie, i have to tell you, the relief i heard in darryl's voice when he talked about his staff, his employees at his restaurant getting vaccinated, it was incredible. under the trump administration, the business side, he was doing fine. the trump white house took better care of businesses than people and now he's happy to see some relief coming on both fronts. steph? >> doctor, i want to talk about people who are not getting vaccinated. it's not just about hesitancy from those who are concerned about the effects or don't have access. you have a whole lot of people who are refusing to take it
simply because officials are telling them to, and then you have people like joe rogan, one of the most popular podcasters in the world, hugely influential, no medical expertise who is telling people oh, if you're young and healthy, you don't need it. you have different groups who are choosing not to take it. how do you change your minds? do you have to create different incentives? >> the way i think about it is a couple of things. first, there's a chunk of people who probably do want to get vaccinated, but the hurdles of getting vaccinated are still high enough, for them it's about making it super duper easy. walk-in clinics and doctor's offices and i think that will help. to your point, people who are -- if you've been kind of bombarded for a year saying this virus is a hoax, that it's nothing more than the flu, then it will be hard to convince those people that you actually should be vaccinated against this. i respect joe rogan. i thought that was completely
wrong. young people can get sick from this virus. they clearly can spread it to other people. it's really, really important that everybody get vaccinated. the way we're going to get there is both by messaging, engaging and not talking down to people who don't want to do it and having more trusted voices speak up about this and religious leaders, civic leaders and podcasters and other important voices, everyone's got to talk about this. one great thing. i saw a grit video from a group physician, congressman talk about the benefits about the vaccine makes stuff like that happen. >> it's disappointing, joe rogan is a hugely influential person with a massive audience. it's mystifying why he would give people such bad information that puts them in harm's way. i appreciate you joining us. you all make us smarter every time we see you. new developments in this hour with two deadly police incidents
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we've got major new developments involving deadly confrontations with law enforcement on both sides of the country. first to california where authorities have just released police body cam footage of a 26-year-old hispanic man who died in police custody after officers pinned him to the ground face down for several minutes. police say the cause of death remains unknown pending the results of the autopsy. our team of reporters are standing by with the latest. i want to start with nbc's bay area reporter bob riddell in california. bob, what happened? >> good morning to you, stephanie. earlier last week alameda police
responded to calls about a man who was possibly under the influence, possibly involved in a theft. that person was 26-year-old mario gonzalez from oakland which is next door to alameda where we're at. as you mentioned, the police just released that body cam footage and i'll let you know before you watch this, it is disturbing to watch. family say gonzalez was having a beer in the park when police tried to restrain him in this footage that runs about an hour long. officers struggled to handcuff gonzalez. you can hear one officer say mario, please stop fighting us. one officer has a knee on gonzalez's back where he remained for four minutes. gonzalez loses consciousness. they start life-saving procedures and called the fire department and he later died at the hospital. police say mario had a medical emergency and his family blames excessive use of forth for his
death. the police killed my brother in the same way they killed george floyd. they acknowledge the video is hard to watch, but he says he didn't see officers kneel on gonzalez's neck like officer chauvin did with george floyd. you can hear police officers talking about not putting too much pressure on gonzalez's back. they hired an independent law firm to conduct an internal investigation and they asked alameda county's sheriff department, and is standard procedure and those three officers, by the way are on paid, administrative leave until this investigation is complete. stephanie? >> thank you. now let's turn to kerry sanders in north carolina where a hearing is to take place over the release of the body cam footage of the fatal shooting of andrew brown jr.
this is important. it's not that police are refusing to release this video. a judge has to make a ruling in north carolina. >> we have a state law that makes this a much more complicated process than you see in other parts of the country. let me take you up to the courtroom now. you can see right now the courtroom is mostly empty. we are waiting for judge jeffrey foster who will be listening to arguments. now he's going to hear from the petition to release the video to the family. releasing the video is a word that requires some definition here because they've already released one 20-second clip and what that meant to andrew brown's family was they got to go into the police station or actually the sheriff's department here and watch that 20-second clip as many times as they want. they were not able to take it out with them, put on a computer and analyze it and review it, and what they would like, of course, is all of the body cam as well as dash cam videos because it's believed by the
attorneys, as many as nine police officers or nine deputies who showed up there should all be wearing body cams and they would like to have the body cam video from the beginning to the very end. the beginning would be defined as the officers were preparing to go in on this attempt to serve an arrest warrant on aaron brown on drug charges. so they would like to have it all so they can not only see, and hear what was being discussed. the judge in this case here has a couple of options. he can decide that this footage, all of it will be made available to aaron -- to andrew brown's family and his lawyers. they can certainly do that and just review it, not physically take it out and they can decide that it can be handled or shared publicly so everybody can see it, because the community here wants to see it and in fact, it's been mostly peaceful protests and stephanie, last
night there was a protest here with the curfew in effect and there were confrontations and people got arrested and the judge could ultimately decide nobody gets the footage and finally, the judge doesn't have to decide today what he's going to do. so there's a lot of pieces in all of this and you have to wait to find out what the decision if there is a decision. >> if you know anything, please keep us up. moments ago our own craig melvin spoke with one of the jurors from the derek chauvin trial. why he thinks the verdict should have come even quicker, but up next, the fight to keep the child tax credit permanent. does it have a threat from going with trillions going to other priorities. i'll ask the senator driving this initiative, michael bennett from colorado. nitiative, michaet from colorado. hello? hi mommy, i won a medal. that's amazing! ♪ going back to the place we love ♪
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lawmakers who is leading the fight to make this tax credit permanent and will be at the speech tonight. democratic senator from colorado, michael bennet. senator, you have been fighting for a long time for this child tax credit to exist and now to be permanent, but when you add it to a bill that includes free community college, free preschool and a lot of other things, does it get watered down and does it worry you that what you're trying to get through won't have a chance as part of a $1.8 trillion bill? >> well, we need to make it permanent. childhood poverty is devastating in this country. we have one of the highest rates in the industrialized world and the population in this country that is poorest, it's a shame to say this, are american children. so i'm very pleased that the white house included the -- they extended my bill in the american rescue plan and they've included a version of it in this plan,
but it doesn't go far enough. we have to make it permanent, and i think there will be gives and takes. >> sir, you're not answering the question. >> okay. ask it again, stephanie, sorry. >> there's a lot of other things in that bill. >> right. >> not just what you want. >> should the white house, should the administration sacrifice some of that to get what you want through? >> from my perspective, this is the number one priority. i think cutting childhood poverty almost in half is what we should do and make it permanent both for the sake of the kids and it costs this country a trillion dollars a year to handle childhood poverty which we don't handle very well. from my perspective, absolutely. from their perspective, they have to pass a bill through the house and the senate and they may be weighing different priorities. my hope is that during this legislative process we will be able to demonstrate that there's incredible support for this proposal to cut childhood poverty in half.
chairman neil and the ways and means committee put it in his plan, and the appropriations committee is the leader on the house side. the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi said she wanted chuck schumer and ron widen said they want it and this is the beginning of the legislative process and we'll fight like hell to make sure that we make it permanent. >> let's talk about -- >> with respect. >> go ahead. >> no, please. >> i was just going to say a negotiation here in the house and the senate. no one knows. the white house doesn't know. i don't know what it's going to take to pass a bill through the congress of this size and in the end what it's going to contain. we will have to put together a really interesting and unusual coalition to do it, but we need to do it because this is the -- we have utterly underinvested in this country now for decades and this is our opportunity to start making up for that. >> then let's talk about that
negotiation because congress has already spent trillions. trillions more are proposed and a lot is needed. some parts of the economy are struggling, but others right now do feel flush with cash. right now we have a moratorium on foreclosures while the housing market is up 30% from where it was last year. do you need to be more targeted with exactly where the money is going? >> i think it is very important to be targeted and i have proposed for a long time that we take benefits like unemployment insurance and tie it to the state of the economy so when the economy's cratering, the ui is increased and when the economy is better the ui is reduced and you take it out of the hands of the politicians in washington and do what's right for the american people and what's right for the economy. look, we're never going to calibrate this perfectly. there's still 1.5 million moms
with kids that are at home because they don't have child care. there are 1.5 fewer moms in the workforce today than there were in march, and i think there is a lot of indication that there's a lot of fear about health and look at what's going on in michigan. so we have to definitely be at tuned to what's happening and i certainly wouldn't want us to do things to disincentivize people that are back to work and we still need to bridge our way out of this. demmic. just as important, we have to make sure for decades and decades and decades and fight for the wealthiest people in this country. we've got to invest in america again and that's what joe biden will tell us tonight. i hope he does. >> we doesn't have affordable child care in this country along
before this, i want to bring in my colleague calipery in louisville, kentucky, where we are seeing huge crowds to churchill down ahead of the kentucky derby, but like a lot of other places around the country, they're struggling to get workers to come to this event. the minimum wage is $7.25. expanded unemployment pays a whole lot more than that. people need support right now. how are they staffing it? >> they're having to be very inventive about staffing this. part of it is seasonal workers are not coming back. part of it is workers in general moved away from this area. you've been pulling on this thread around the nation and we were happy to be here. chef danielson has been the executive chef here for ten years and take a listen to what he says about staffing issues. >> everything from top to bottom, managers, chefs. i normally bring in about 65 chefs. this year we brought in 42 and just finding those chefs,
finding those managers, sommeliers and people with a little more experience all of the way down to line-level people from our cooks in the kitchens, our concessioneers, people in the stands talking, so many people. at a normal derby we have 5,000 food and beverage employees and this year we're at about 2,000. >> reporter: stephanie, we will see the effects of this not just here at the track and uber drivers, that whole sector now change. people delivering food and there's a shortage of uber drivers here in louisville and some of this is a supply chain issue and getting food here was incredibly difficult this year. you're talking 7,000 pounds of short ribs and 7,000 pounds of medallions and pounds of chicken. they thought it was a mistake because large events like this
one for two years haven't been taking place. >> senator bennet, you led the bill to raise the federal minimum wage and it didn't go through and right now people are getting more government support than if they take some of those lower wage jobs. you don't have to go out and look for work, so in the short term do we need to tweak things and maybe offer partial unemployment benefits because you get nothing or everything. you can't even get a part-time job. >> our unemployment system is completely broken and i'm not going to defend it because we have to change it. we have 50 different, and they're running software that's 50 years old. toggling it up or down which is what we should do is extremely hard under those circumstances and we have to fix that and we have to make sure that as we come out of this thing and disincentivizing people who are working. i think the picture is much more
complicated than that. it's not just a matter of expense in terms of child care as you mentioned on the way to your colleague. it's also that there are fewer child care workers before this pandemic happened and many fewer slots for kids. so i'm not going to disagree that there are cases or that you can show anecdotally and sectors where it's been harder to get people back to work because of ui and i think there are a lot of other reasons why, and we are going to get out of this hopefully this summer and i think that as we do, we should turn our attention to the long term investments that we have to make in our society to make it competitive again and our economy, it's -- it's showing real wear and tear because of our lack of investment in the american people. that's one of the reasons why when our economy grows over and
over again for 50 years, it's grown for the wealthiest people and not for everybody else, and to take it back to the child tax credit, that's why we've got to make that permanent. >> and do you believe we're actually going to tax the wealthiest people? >> i know that's the plan here, but let's be honest. the wealthy americans have the best lawyers and the best accountants, is the language here different from when we've seen before to get these people to pay? >> i think that we are going to get the people to pay and it's not just the richest people in america. it's also companies like amazon that paid zero in corporate taxes, and we need to do it. this country is collecting less than 16% of our gdp in revenue and we're spending roughly 23% and that's not sustainable, and i deeply regret the fact that washington, d.c. and particular particular republicans in washington, d.c., cut taxes by
the tune of $5 trillion for the wealthiest people in america when we had the greatest income and equality that we've had since 1928. it's inexplicable and it's like the mayor of denver saying i'm borrowing more money than i ever have before, but i'm not spending it on parks, schools or health carry or mental health and i'll just give it to the two richest neighborhoods in town. that's exactly what mitch mcconnell's tax policy has been and that's what we have to reverse and change, and i think we will. >> now you have a democrat in the white house. commercial real estate, private equity industry, i'm looking at you. senator bennet, thank you for joining me this morning. coming up, can a school punish your kid for what they say off campus? the supreme court going to try to figure out that answer today. to figure out that answer today. introducing nervive nerve relief from the world's number 1 selling nerve care company. as we age, natural changes to our nerves occur
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publicly for the first time after finding the former police officer guilty of murdering george floyd. moments ago juror brandon mitchell spoke to our own craig melvin on the "today" show, he described the ten hours of deliberations and how the jury reached its verdict. >> i thought we should have came back a little bit quicker, actually, but the time we did spend was time when we were just going over the details again, making sure that everybody was on the same page and just clarifying. so for the most part we did come in and come straight out and i thought it should have been quicker. >> why? why do you think it should have been faster? >> just because the evidence was overwhelming that he was guilty in my opinion. after dr. tobin and the other witnesses and the evidence i didn't see any reason why we should have taken longer than an hour. >> derek chauvin will be sentenced in june and faces up to 40 years in prison. and this morning we are watching a major free speech showdown at the supreme court.
the justices will consider if students can be punished for comments made outside of school. it comes after this young woman got in big trouble when she went off on snapchat for not making her school's varsity cheerleading squad. pete williams spoke to this young woman behind the case and he joins us now. pete, this sounds like -- i'm not saying it's appropriate or polite, but it sounds like this is how modern teens blow off steam. i assure you. i have a lot of conversations with my own teenager and what he puts out on social media. why is this going to the supreme court? >> the supreme court ruled 50-plus years ago that students do not shed their first amendment rights at the school house gate though they can be punished if their speech is substantially disrupted. the question is with speech as pervasive as you say on social media, does that mean that the school has to ignore everything that's said off campus? that's the question. we talked to brandi levy, the
young woman at the heart of this case and her father larry about what's at stake. >> i was a 14-year-old kid expressing my feelings, expressing how i felt and that's how -- that's how kids do it. like, they do it over social media. >> that's how us parents learn what's going on with our children's lives, through social media. >> so he says he hopes the supreme court won't try to stifle that speech. there are two ways that brandi levy could win this case. the supreme court could agree with the lower courts that anything said off-campus is out of reach of the schools, and they can't punish for it. the schools say that would make it much harder for them to patrol things like cyber bullying, but the second way she could win is for the court to rule on much narrow grounds and when she said wasn't disruptive and she can't be punished for it. >> pete williams, thank you so much and for any teens watching at home, no matter what the
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before we go, let's go global. the parliament debating how to handle russia. it comes after alexi nalvany ended his hunger strike. walk us through this was a voluntary hunger strike that he ended, why? >> you know, that's right. he ended it because he was taken to the hospital. his health was getting worse and worse. he will welcome this debate in the european union parliament, but to cut to the chase it won't make that much difference. europe is deeply divided over russia. take, for example, what is happening right now. expulsions of diplomats, a tit
for tat. it is being blamed on the russians but the germans are pushing ahead with a pipeline that is a new pipeline to take gas from russia to places like germany avoiding ukraine. despite that that has been condemned by the u.s. congress. it's really pretty chaotic. and i think a vote by the european parliament won't really change that. >> what is going on at this point between the u.s. and iran? >> good question. there are clashes in the persian gulf between the american navy and the uranian navy. there are negotiations over the nuclear deal that president biden signed, president trump walked away from. they are refusing to negotiate
directly with the americans. will president biden be able to fulfill that election process? that is really the background to what is happening. the tension is all about the negotiations that are a knife edge. >> just this morning we learned there is a new covid playbook for the olympics. what will it look like? >> that's right. the olympics are likely to be this summer the most challenging games in history, or certainly one of the most challenging. they say they're going to put in tougher restrictions. they can really control the way that people move around. they say they're going to wait until june to decide how many spectators will be at olympic events. and the head of the ioc saying he may put in tougher conditions. many japanese are deeply worried
about the games. but it is really dangerous. if the olympics lead to a surge in cases and there is already a surge in japan right now then the japanese government will be blamed. but the athletes hope it will go ahead. how about that? a smorgus board. >> you just mentioned they are seeing a uptick in covid cases and they're entering another lock down. >> they are. is there a chance the olympics may be canceled? it is still possible. there is so much money involved. millions of dollars of course. many millions. i think it seems unlikely. but it is really very tricky. many japanese people are concerned about the new
variants. i think we're going to see a gains like no other that you have ever seen before. very, very restricted with the events taking place and them being around the world, but constant tension through the games whether or not there will be new infections and you know in one way it will be incredible to watch. >> thank you for taking us around the world. that wraps up this hour. i'm stephanie ruhle reporting to you live. coming up next is hallie jackson. nancy pelosi is going to join angela mitchell in a little while. little while.
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