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really appreciate it. just want to recap our top story breaking news tonight. doctor anthony fauci explained why the cdc -- mask guidelines. he says are pick up basketball game is getting close to happening. he is also proclaimed the proud tradition of >> chris, i have to tell you, i will pay good money, i will call in a sick day myself. i will do anything i have to to watch when that happens. >> i think it's going to happen. >> i will also say we have progressed to the pandemic to where we can have guests in person. you only saw dr. fauci by satellite. i had the good fortune to see you in the office today, which is crazy, and you've been working out, dude. >> yes, i'm trying to get swoll at the end of this pandemic. little known back about dr. anthony fauci which you may not
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know. he's actually 6'10". you just don't see it on the tv screen. that's why he was confidently talking trash. >> i think he was only threatening you because he doesn't know about your transformation and it's going to be wicked when it happens. well done, my friend, nice to see you. thank you for joining us this evening. happy to have you here. i told you this would be a week with a whole bunch of news in it and today did not disappoint. >> secretary, good morning to you. we are at a crucial juncture in combatting covid-19, and we've got these new mask guidelines coming down. your department oversees the cdc, so i want to put the question to you. first, what we can expect, and also, it sounds like it's going to be organized around whether or not a person is vaccinated or not, which i would read as a kind of encouragement to get more people out there to get that vaccination. fair to say? >> good morning and thanks for having me, and absolutely. the message is clear. you're vaccinated, guess what, you get to return to a more normal lifestyle. if you're not vaccinated, you're still in danger as well, so get
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vaccinated. >> you're vaccinated? guess what, you get to return to a more normal lifestyle. if you're not vaccinated, you're still a danger, meaning a danger to other people, and you're still in danger yourself as well, so get vaccinated. if you're vaccinated, though, you do get to return to a more normal lifestyle. the house secretary in the biden administration, xavier becerra, today, bottom lining this new reality, this new guidance by the cdc, bottomlining that pretty succinctly today. that bottom line as outlined by secretary becerra is still very simple. if you get vaccinated, the cdc says there is stuff you can now do safely without a mask. you want to have a cookout with a small group of friends or family for memorial day weekend or for this weekend?
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you can do that without masks on if you are all vaccinated. if you're not vaccinated, well, you are both at risk of getting covid yourself, and even worse, you're at risk of spreading covid to other people, so you'll need to keep a mask on for an event like that. which, frankly, will sort of suck if all your vaccinated friends don't have to wear a mask and you still do. in other words, get vaccinated. this afternoon, president biden explains a little bit more about the new guidance and talked some about how far we've come. >> when i took office in january, we were losing literally tens of thousands of our seniors each week. grandparents who were loved so dearly, moms and dads, pillars of every community, gone by the thousands every day. at that time, less than 1% of seniors were fully vaccinated when i took office.
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today, in less than 100 days, more than 67%, two-thirds of our seniors, are now fully vaccinated. that effort resulted in a drop of 80% in deaths among american seniors. i want to thank the team at the cdc for everything they're doing to help us lead with science and bring our communities out of this crisis safely and responsibly. now, i also want to thank everyone who has gotten the vaccine for doing your patriotic duty. go get the shot. it's never been easier. and once you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask when you're outside and away from big crowds. i urge all americans, don't let up now. keep following the guidance. go get your vaccination now. it's free and it's convenient.
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90% of the american people live within five miles of a site where you can get a vaccination. you can do this. and we will do this. >> president biden speaking today about the new mask guidance, the cdc loosening up the mask guidance for outdoors, particularly among people who are vaccinated. i should tell you he also had a sort of drop the mic moment today when nbc's peter alexander asked president biden why he was wearing a mask when he walked out of the white house to make his remarks today. watch this. >> sir, you chose to wear a mask as you walked out here. what message were you sending by wearing a mask outside alone? >> to watch me take it off and not put it back on until i get inside. >> the president flashed his high beams on that one. sunglasses on, big grin. it's like classic biden. you got to be kidding me, man, right?
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you can watch me take the mask off as i come outside and not put it back on until i get inside. that's what we're doing here, guys. come on. there will be no aviators at the state of the union address tomorrow, but i think you can expect some of that same tone, at least on covid. and i will tell you, we're not supposed to call tomorrow night's address to the joint session of congress a state of the union address. we typically don't call it that the first time a new president gives one. but can i just say for a second how annoying that is this year? i mean, essentially the reason we don't call it a state of the union is that after new presidents were inaugurated for the first time, we think of them as not having been around long enough, to not having done enough yet as presidents to report on the so-called state of the union. so that makes sense, right, most of the time. sort of. presidents get sworn in at the end of january, and then they
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typically give this speech right away, so, like, ronald reagan was sworn in january 20th. the speech for him happens less than a month later, february 18. before him, it was president bush, a few weeks later, he was speaking to congress three weeks later, february 9th. george w. bush, february 27th. obama, february 24th. donald trump, february 28th. they all maxed out at like five weeks into their first term before they gave this first speech to congress. we all bent over backwards to not call it a state of the union because it was so soon after they were sworn in. fine, i get it, i get it. but even with all those guys, its still a state of the union address. it still functions like a state of the union address. and number two, this year, it's not happening in february. february is long gone, as is march, as is almost all of april. this year, whether it's because
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of the pandemic or because of the january trump mob attack on the capitol complex or any number of reasons, this year president biden has chosen to wait much longer than any other modern president has waited before he gives this speech. he's waiting until the literal eve of his 100th day in office before he gives this first big speech to congress. tomorrow is day 99 and that's when he's giving this address. and that means that it's not like he's still finding his way around the oval office trying to figure out which door triggers the lock, right? the first speech by a new president always feels like a state of the union, anyway, even when it's only three or four weeks into his new term. but in this case with biden, we're 14 weeks into him being president. we're 99 days into him being president and the dude has some stuff to report. so i know we're not supposed to call it the state of the union. i'm going to keep accidentally not accidentally calling tomorrow's biden speech a state of the union address even if we're not supposed to. because functionally that's what it is.
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he will be reporting on stuff that he has done. he is not just going to be reporting on stuff that he intends to do. and because he has already been there for almost 100 days, most of what he's got to talk about, obviously, is going to be about covid and the fight against this pandemic. we saw a preview of that from the president today. even before he put on his sunglasses and started to walk away from the podium before dropping the mic on peter alexander like that. in these remarks, talking about the new guidance from the cdc, thanking the cdc for their leadership, telling americans we need to finish the job and get vaccinated, but also giving them credit for how far they've come for this what administration has able to do. he'll be able to do some of that tomorrow, talk about what he's done. because he's been there long enough to have done a lot already. the president's approval ratings overall are high. but when it comes to the handling of the coronavirus, his approval ratings are sky high. and so we're going to hear a lot
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about that tomorrow night from a president who can get in there 99 days in and describe the state of the union and what he's done. and in terms of his agenda, in terms of what he wants to yet do, the popularity of the covid relief bill is strong and staying that way. that's already been signed into law and is already going into effect. monmouth just released new polling showing 64% support among the american people for the american families plan that he's going to formally announce in his speech tomorrow, 64% support for that already. he hasn't even formally announced this yet. monmouth also found 68% support for the infrastructure bill that he's already proposed that is currently making its way through the congress. 68% popularity on the infrastructure bill? it turns out that's a good way to be popular, right? propose and pass things that the american people like by huge margins, then they'll like you, too. crazy, i know. i think congress has started to cotton to the fact that when
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they pass things that are wildly popular among the american people, it raises congress' approval ratings as well. so far, republicans have been immune to those charms and do not want to support what the democrats and the biden administration are doing, but as democrats in congress, the democratic party, the biden administration and, indeed, to a certain extent even congress as an institution gets more popular with the american people because of biden's stuff that they are finally getting passed that's making a difference in the country, we'll see how long that resistance lasts. the approval ratings for president biden personally, for his handling of specific issues and for his legislative agenda thus far, i'm sure from the white house's perspective, those good numbers make this seem like a great time to put the president before the public in a
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big prime time address. they probably think it was worth waiting 99 days and not doing this in february when he had nothing to talk about. they're able to tout what he's done already in addition to what he plans to do next. and the risk of having scheduled it this way, of course, is that by this time in the presidency, 100 days into a presidency, you would also think the opposition would have started to define the new president negatively, would have found their footing in terms of criticizing and demonizing his actions, his proposals, the impact of what he's doing. that's not happening among republicans. republicans have not found their feet yet, to say the least, in terms of criticizing, let alone meaningfully opposing what biden is doing. i mean, this, too, is a remarkable thing about the state of the union right now and about the prospects for president biden's agenda. look at the string of weird, made-up cockamamie stuff that the republicans have been talking about since biden became president. think about what you have heard
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from them. think about what you have heard from conservative media and republican elected officials about their greats concerns and the things most animaing them since the biden administration has been in place. there was the freakout about mr. potato head. there was a freakout about the muppets. i'm not sure what that were mad about, but they were very mad about the muppets. then they were mad about dr. seuss. then they were mad about joe biden's big meat ban, even though joe biden is not banning meat. that was totally made up. one fox news anchor, to his credit, yesterday did run an on-air correction apologizing for the fox news channel saying biden would ban meat when that's not in the proposal at all. there was one fox anchor on
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camera apologizing in front of america for hyping that story. for the last few days, republicans have been all over that. they've also been hyping a totally different, also totally false story that all kids detained by immigration authorities at the u.s. border were being given a child's picture book written by vice president kamala harris. the implication was that the biden administration were giving the book to migrant kids at the border. that is totally made up. it is not happening. it is literally a story made up storey made out of whole cloth. never proposed. but that's the latest one. it's become yet another new, animating, totally fake grievance in conservative media and among republican elected politicians. because this is how they spend their time now. a new york post reporter whose
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by line was on the "new york post" on the fake kamala harris story. that reporter resigned tonight saying, an announcement. today i handed in my resignation to the editors at the new york post. the kamala harris story an incorrect story i was ordered to write in which i failed to push back hard against. that was my breaking point. that reporter from the new york post, laura italiano, saying tonight she quit her job over being forced to concoct and advance that fake story about something the biden administration absolutely did not do. but it's just one in a bunch of those now. and it, nevertheless, remains like a top story in conservative media right now and among elected republican members of congress who you would think have other things to talk about. it is weird, and i will tell you, i think it's not just a sidebar. i think it's an important thing about where our democracy is at
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and where the prospects for biden's agenda is at heading into tomorrow's state of the union. it is rare but significant that republicans over and over and over again in these last 98 days have incessantly gone for these made-up sidebar crises and controversies one after the other that are not real things, and it's certainly not things the biden administration is doing. there is other stuff to talk about if you're in opposition, right, if you're a governing party in opposition. they just passed a $9.2 million relief bill. and with more coming after that. but the republicans are like muppets! bacon! muppets and bacon! seuss! if you are the biden white house, that's probably a good sign that the opposition party really does not know what to say about you and does not know what to say about the substance of what you're doing. in life in general, if people
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have to make things up about you to criticize, it probably means the real-life way you're living probably isn't too bad. but in the house chamber tomorrow night, it's going to look way different than it usually does. unlike previous state of the union addresses, they are not, for example, picking a designated survivor. this always struck me as melodramatic and also a little scary. in case of a catastrophic attack on the capitol during the state of the union address, they usually designate one cabinet member who is in succession in line for the vaccine, only two members of the cabinet will be at the state of the union. it will only be the secretary of defense and secretary of state. all of the other members of the cabinet will be watching from home. we don't have to worry tomorrow night about supreme court justice sam alito heckling like
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he did president obama. because only one supreme court justice is going to be there for the address as well. the chief justice, john roberts. the only guests in the entire chamber will be president's wife and the vice president's husband, they are the only invited guests from outside of the government. there will be 30 members from each party and 40 house members, and that's it. the main reason for all of the restrictions is covid, of
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course is they are limiting space between all attendees. but what is going to be the most unusual state of the union tomorrow, there was quite recently a violent attack on the u.s. capitol on january 6th. just today, the trump-supporting arkansas man who allegedly entered the capitol with a stunning device mounting on a hunting stick and went into nancy pelosi office and wrote threatening notes, was photographed with his feet on her desk. right now that man was released from jail. he has been in federal custody for three months. right before the state of the union, they decided to set him loose. kyle chaney and josh -- reporting tonight with these adds federal judges are considering these difficult cases of january 6 defendants and whether these defendant are dangerous enough that the court should keep them in jail until they go to trial.
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one of the new complicated things that they are contending with. judges are really wrestling. one of the things everybody is newly having to contend with is that in the last week or so, former president donald trump has renewed his calls to his followers about how the election was stolen from him, saying he won the election. and how he needs their help to get it back, because joe biden, and on january 6 itself, those statements are with a lot of the attack. right? the reason their lawyers have described those statements by president trump in moves cases is basically make a case to the judges in these cases my client isn't a bad person and this is a
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onetime deal. it was a heat of the moment craziness driven by this singular unrepeated moment in time when former president trump, my idol, and the commander in chief, was claiming publicly that the election was stolen and he needed his supporters to steal it back from him. president trump's incited statements have been incited on january 6th have been incited again and again by defense counsel only not doing this don't worry my client will not do that again. again, my client can be trusted to go home. we've seen that in case after case after case of the january 6 defendants. the problem is that defense strategy only goes as far as donald trump no longer making statements like that about the election. within the past few weeks or so,
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he has started doing that again. here's kyle and josh reporting tonight at politico.com. quote. >> trump's refusal to accept the reality that he lost the 2020 election reflected in a torrent of recent statements renewing discredited by claims about a rigged vote, has become a feature of prosecutors' latest attempts to jail capitol riot defendants they deem to have been too dangerous to release judgment in trial. they've agreed that trump's rhetoric could spur his most radicalized supporters to attack again. and that could be bad news for dozens of additional riot suspects being hauled in on alleged conspiracy and police assault charges. judge sullivan wrote in a recent order, quote.
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the judge continues, quote. prosecutors have also begun citing and echoing judge sullivan's rational. from this past friday to today, former president trump has sought to reignite his frenzied claims, that the 2020 election was stolen from him, assailing state officials who refuse to
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entertain those results. trump says, quote. that was in a statement trump made on friday demanding arizona's governor provide security for a gop-led audit of the 2020 election results in that state. he argues that the circumstances of january 6 are unlikely to happen again. but judge sullivan and other prosecutors citing trump's recent rhetoric has pushed back on that reasoning. it's not over if they say it's not over, right? not in terms of what they're lime to do to try to effectuate the craziness they have been fantasizing about. it is the january 6th attack and covid-19 precautions that made unlike anything we have seen in history.
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he signed an executive order give a pay raise to hundreds of thousands of americans. very uncovered story and hear about it this hour hour. we will talk about why trump world is ramping back up how their election was stolen and how biden isn't really president and trump is going to reinstated and trump supporters must stop this deal. it is rhetoric giving some january 6th defendants in prison who otherwise might be released but it is focused on a real-world thing. it is focused on a real effort that arizona republicans are trying to pull off to try to undue the presidential election there and arizona secretary of state is going to be joining us on that live coming up. it's all coming up. busy news week and busy news night. stay with us. we have lots to get to. night. stay with us we have lots to get to
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in the coming weeks, i will issue an executive order requiring federal contractors to pay their federally funded employees a fair wage of at least $10.10 an hour, because if you cook our troops' meals or wash their dishes, you should not have to live in poverty. >> president obama in his 2014
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state of the union address announcing a minimum wage increase for everybody who worked for a federal contractor. so people like food and janitorial workers on american military bases, anyone working on a federal contract, this was a big deal at the time. you can tell from the huge applause president obama got, at least from the democratic side. president obama at the time had been trying to get congress to approve an crease in the minimum wage for all americans. even though that idea is wildly popular among the american people. the members of congress wouldn't budge, wouldn't do it, so president obama did the next best thing. he signed this executive order raising the minimum wage for at least hundreds of thousands of americans who worked for federal contractors. and republicans went bananas! they lost their minds! just before president obama's state of the union speech that
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night, one texas republican announced from the house floor tweeted from the house floor that he was awaiting the arrival of the socialistic dictator, the commandant-in-chef. that's much worse than the commandant-in-chief. because the chef makes you eat stuff that is terrible. socialistic dictator. that was about the minimum wage for federal contractors. how speaker john boehner said that obama's minimum wage hike for contractors was against the constitution and republicans would see the president in court. spoiler alert there. it turns out it was not against the constitution and it went into effect just fine. but still, the panic was crazy. senator ted cruz said this minimum wage increase for federal contractors was the signed of the imperial presidency of barack obama. it was like murder this $2.85
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raise in the federal minimum wage for federal contractors. obviously it was intended to be the end of the republic. but despite the cuckoo for cocoa puffs reaction on the right, president obama did sign that executive order, and since then federal contractors have been getting a minimum wage of just over $10 an hour and the country is not a smoking wreckage. it is not a smoking bunch of money before got some more money. that's pretty much the thing that changed. period. because of this experience in 2014, it is going to be harder for republicans to get people to freak out about it this time around. although they undowdily -- undoubtedly try. now president biden is going to raise money for them. again, president biden signed an executive order of federal contractors from $15 an hour.
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he already raised the minimum hour wage for federal employees to 15 an hour. more than 300,000 americans are going to get basically a pretty big and permanent pay raise. about $3,000 a year of a raise for more than 300,000 americans who are working on the bottom end of the wage scale, even though their work is from contractors, or getting their money from the federal government. 300,000 or 400,000 american workers, that's a lot of american workers, but it's still a small because of republicans blocking that in the senate, and some conservative democratic senators trying to get it
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passed. republicans have been able to block that. instead, he is doing what he can, a sort of a big something. but it is what he can do on his own. joining me now is jerry bernstein. he is now on president biden's list of advisers. good to see you. thank you for your time tonight. >> great to be here. thank you. >> how much difference will this make on average for the federal contractors who are going to get a raise from this and how many americans will this affect? >> the american economic institute policy did a great analysis of that today. according to epi it will reach 390,000 workers and it will raise their annual pay by over $3,000 a year. that is real money. it's real economic justice and it's a 100-day biden promise and
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it is a promise kept. that executive order was signed today and we will see those workers benefiting from it as soon as it gets into the field. >> a play that clip from president obama to the walk down memory lane about the republican freak-out about it. . but also that another boost for the president in 2014. >> it's a very important question, rachel, and it reminds me of the kind of analysis we're able to do with minimum wages where we also find that to be an effective program. because we had this in place, as you mentioned, in 2014 and 2015, we were able to go back with its economic advisers, we found it had no impact in terms of the change in contracting costs.
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there was no significant increase that caused, for that matter, it just pretty much flatlined. i think it's important to ask yourself why. the answer is the efficiencies that are in gender, and when you raise pay of low wage works, it helps to offset those costs. and that includes fewer absentees, boosted morale, boosted effort. those kinds of efficiencies diffuse labor costs, and we observed that the contracting costs didn't go up as a result of this executive order. >> jerry, in terms of the president's message tomorrow night, we have seen some of the details about this american families plan he will talk about tomorrow night. we have learned from. we've had the covid relief plan, the plan we saw him lay out
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which is the one he laid out with the american families plan. that has a lot of elements in it fars as far as we can tell about making life more important. how does this fit into that overall message? >> it is totally consistent with the economic policies that this president has brought to the white house, in fact, the very ones he campaigned on. president biden, who i've known now for quite a while, has always had, in the back of his mind, an economic model if the economic is growing, if gdp is up and middle class and lower income are not getting their fair share of that growth, then something is fundamentally wrong. what we have to do is the rescue plan and get to the other side of the crisis and i think the evidence of that working is quite strong. when the president talks about
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building back better, he means rebuilding the policy architects that connects the economic well-being of families lift behind for deck wades for overall economic growth. that means deep and historical investments in clean energy, in modernizing schools and child care centers, and in clean water and, of course, clean air. enter the case of the american families plan, i will not front run on the president but i will tell you the frame there is pretty much addressing the family part of that policy agenda through equally deep and equally historic investments in investment and child care and paid leave paid for offset by implementing a fair set of tax changes that hit nobody under 400,000 of family income.
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so aggressive tax chances to pay for the economic security for the middle class. >> jared bernstein, i know you and your colleagues heading into a state of the union type of address are running on 48-hour schedules. i appreciate you taking the time tonight. >> thank you. we've got much more here, including arizona's secretary of state joining us in what has really become a strange effort for americans to try to overturn the presidential election in that state. yes, the presidential election from six months ago. they're still working on it. stay with us. stay with us
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breaksing news tonight. in the so-called audit that americans are holding in s razz, of the 2020 election in that state. the ridiculous recount that's
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being conducted by a pro-trump conspiracy theorist and his private security firm that he calls cyber ninjas. arizona republicans hired this guy and gave him two-thirds of the actual ballots cast by real arizona residents in the presidential race in november. he says he's going to do some sort of secret analysis of those ballots and then report what the real election results were in arizona. again, this effort is being led by a qanon guy who has supported all of the craziest stop the steal conspiracy theories about how trump didn't really lose the election. well, here's the news. until tonight, the only press allowed inside to report on this so-called audit is the whackadoo pro-trump news network which is called american news which has hyped conspiracy theories around the election and whose on-air personalities have raised money to conduct this so-called vote count in arizona.
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one of the real journalists who actually made it into the room to watch some of this audit was only able to get in because she signed up as a volunteer observer, and that allowed her to be in on the first day. she wasn't allowed in after that and no journalists have been allowed in since then. it's just the one news people. they've got exclusive access. that all changed finally tonight. that one real reporter who was allowed one time says she has been let back in. she said a coalition of arizona news organizations that fought for better access, they are now being allowed in the room to watch the count, although no one is being made available to answer reporters' questions about what they're seeing. remember, jen fifield is the reporter who noticed on day one that ballot counters were all lined with blue pens. she noted the cyber ninjas
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allowed in that they could change the vote. the cyber ninjas guy told her that was news to him, he didn't know there was any problem with blue ink. here's jen fifield's update on that tonight, on pens. she says, quote. so now we know. we know what color pen the ballot counters are using, thanks to journalists for fighting and demanding to be allowed to cover this ridiculous thing. we also now know that some of the ballot inspectors are conducting their inspections of the ballots looking for counterfeits by hitting the ballots with ultraviolet
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light. with ultra violet flashlights. okay. also there is a room that journalists still don't have access to where auditors say they're examining the county's voting machines. that's a room that is not even part of the camera feeds that one american news has been showing to the public. meanwhile, the arizona democratic party is suing the republican-controlled arizona senate to try to stop this thing from continuing. today in court, the judge hearing that case said he is mulling a restraining order to potentially stop this thing in its tracks. there's going to be another hearing on that case tomorrow. we may get his ruling then. but if and until that happens, this whole process is continuing to go forward and this is why former president trump and his most fervent supporters believe right now that this is the path by which donald trump will be reinstated as president and joe biden will be exposed as a fraud. arizona's top elections official
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secretary of state katie hobbs told cnn, quote. arizona secretary of state katie hobbs joins us next. a secretarye hobbs joins us next.
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she said my concern grows deeper by the hour. it is clear no one in this process know what they are doing and make it up as they go along. that's arizona's secretary of state katie hobbs. president trump convinced himself that he's going to be reinstated as president. this arizona's secretary of state, katie hobbs is joining us live.
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thank you for joining us, secretary of state. >> thank you, rachel. it's great to be here. >> i'm agog of what is going here. but part of me thinks it's so ridiculous we shouldn't be talking about it. is what they are doing a dangerous, dumb thing or just a dumb thing? >> it is dangerous. i'm glad you brought this up. this potential precedent setting for other states in the country, i guarantee that folks are watching this nationally and if they are able to successfully continue to undermine voters confidence in our election integrity, they're going to bring this to other states in the country. >> are you specifically worried about the ballots, it is amazing to me that they have the actual ballots more than 2 million of them. are you worried about what could happen with the ballots that's in the custody of these guys? >> absolutely. when the subpoena was uphold, my
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office reached out to senator karen phan and outlined the bare minimum of what we hope would be in place, to protect the ballots, the equipment, the access logging and everything that should be in place. we mentioned the color of pens, as you talked about earlier, and we have gotten no assurances that these would be followed. obviously, as we are watching this play out in front of us, a lot of these things are not being followed. i think a lot of the security concerns that arizonans have are not taken seriously by folks who are conducting this exercise. >> what do thu think is going to be the outcome of this process? you look at the people who have the outcome of this process? you look at the people who have chosen to do it, we covered it extensively. the state's senate have the opportunity to hire sort of real people, to hire people who are experienced and credited who have done this sort of things
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and, forgive me, aren't wing-nuts who are known conspiracy on this and they chose the crazy folks to do it. what do you think will be the bottom line and how do you think they'll end it? >> i've said this from the beginning. it is clear now there is really nothing valid that's going to come out from this exercise. they are on a fishing expedition to find something and we don't know what. we know they're not going to find it. they're not being transparent of the measures they are taking for whatever it is they are doing. that's, you know, going to help them make stuff up apparently. all this is going to do is continue to undermine voters confidence in the process. there is nothing about this that's going to ease voters concerns that have been really create by these same politicians who have continued to promote the big lie since the election
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in november. >> secretary of state of arizona, katie hobbs, we have been covering this the last few nights and i keep thinking we are done with it and the next day, something gets weirder about it. i hope you keep us apprised on this as we keep an eye on it. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. stay with us. ou >> we'll be right back stay with us
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for the big biden's speech that we are not supposed to call it the state of the union. but a state of the union. it starts tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. eastern, i will be here tomorrow night an hour early than i usually am to be apart of that special coverage. "way too early" is up next can kasie hunt. starting today, if you're fully vaccinated and you're outdoors, you need -- and not in a big crowd, you no longer need to wear a mask. the cdc is able to make this announcement because our scientists are convinced by the data that the odds of getting or giving the virus to others is very, very low if you're both been fully vaccinated and out in the open air. so go get the shot. it's never been easier. once you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask when

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