tv The 11th Hour With Brian Williams MSNBC April 26, 2021 8:00pm-9:00pm PDT
and demands for transparency about officers' use of force in our country. tonight there is a state of emergency in elizabeth city, north carolina where protests have taken place every day since andrew brown was shot and killed last wednesday by sheriff's deputies who were serving a drug warrant. his family has been asking to see body cam video of that shooting. the request was finally met today, but the family says only 20 seconds were released from a single body camera. this afternoon after multiple viewings of that 20-second clip, the family's attorneys describe what they saw. >> this was an execution. andrew brown was in his driveway. the sheriff blocked him in his driveway so he could not exit his driveway. andrew had his hands on his steering wheel. he was not reaching for anything, he wasn't touching anything, he wasn't throwing anything around, he had his hands firmly on the steering
wheel. they ran up to his vehicle, shooting. he still stood there, sat there in his vehicle with his hands on the steering wheel while being shot at. >> nbc news has not seen this body cam video. brown's family has said at least eight body-worn cameras were present at the killing of andrew brown. one witness told nbc news what she saw out of her nearby bedroom window. >> they shot out the back window of his car and he lost control and he ended up across the street. and he hit a tree. they crowded around his car. they shot -- were shooting the front window of his car. >> now to another front. a different shooting,
spotsylvania county, virginia where isaiah brown is now fighting for his life after he was shot several times by a sheriff's deputy last wednesday. the officer was responding to a 911 call from brown during a family dispute. that body cam video has been released. a warning here. it, like all the others, is disturbing. >> drop the gun! >> he's got a gun to his head. >> drop the gun now and step away. stop! stop! stop! [ gunshots ] >> shots fired, shots fired, one down! >> perhaps you counted seven shots. isaiah brown survived at least seven gunshots. his family says the sheriff's deputy mistook a portable house phone for a gun. >> isaiah brown had made clear a full 90 seconds or more before
the deputies arrived on scene that he was unarmed and didn't have a weapon. he had removed himself from the home and he was outside walking on the street with this cordless phone. >> my concern at this point is just for my son to hopefully come home alive. >> the u.s. justice department is now zeroing in on allegations of police misconduct, today announcing what is called a pattern and practices investigation into the louisville metro police department. this was the second such announcement in less than a week's time. last wednesday the department, you'll recall, said it was scrutinizing the minneapolis pd. well, this morning attorney general merrick garland laid out the scope of the investigation to the louisville police department. it came over a year after louisville officers shot and killed breonna taylor while they raided her apartment while executing a no-knock warrant. >> the investigation will assess
weather lmpd engages in a pattern or practice of using unreasonable force. it will determine whether lmpd engages in unconstitutional stops, searches and seizures as well as whether the department unlawfully executes search warrants on private homes. >> now to politics as all of this unfolds. the first results from the latest u.s. census doctor showing some democratic strongholds losing influence in the house of representatives and some sunbelt and western states are winning. california will lose a house seat, first time that's ever happened, as will new york. illinois, pennsylvania, ohio and west virginia. gaining seats, texas. they will get two. oregon, montana, north carolina, florida all get one.
biden will address a joint session of congress on wednesday night, the eve of his 100th day in office. the white house says he is taking a very hands-on approach to his speech which, if we're being honest, is what white houses have said about presidents going back decades. >> he is deeply involved in the development of his speech. he's thinking a great deal about what message he can send directly to the american people about what progress has been made, but of course what challenges remain ahead. >> tomorrow biden expected to make an announcement that will signal life as we once knew it, maybe closer than ever, a source telling nbc news tonight he will lay out new cdc guidance on mask wearing outdoors. with all of that in mind, let's bring in our leadoff guests on this monday night. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times." former u.s. attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal
prosecutor, also one of the co-hosts of the podcast "sisters-in-law" with barb wayne banks and mcquade. also a former member of the biden white house task force on 21st century policing, and, chief, that's where we want to begin with you. i realize it's against a backdrop of a kind of solemn numbness. i realize we have limited time to toss you such a broad question. what stands out to you in these latest police-involved shootings? north carolina and virginia, andrew brown and isaiah brown? >> well, one thing that is very clear, particularly the shooting in north carolina. they're going to and need to, as quickly as they can, to release as much video to the public. when you give people a snippet
of an entire event that was deadly as it was, you actually do no more than really just aggravate people and really create an environment of further distrust. so that is the one thing that needs to happen. as it relates to all of these shootings, brian, that have happened here very recently, we still have to keep in mind that each one of these cases have to be judged individually, but there is one common theme that continues to run through them, and that are men of color who are coming in contact with police, unarmed and being killed. that is a serious issue and it's continuing to create a further divide between police and community in this country. and we've got to get our arms around this very quickly and, really, we need support from the white house in regards to this from a federal level, but there is state and local work that needs to be done that is much more immediate and can be much more broad.
>> joyce, in this day and age, especially with social media, we, news consumers, all of us, expect to see things now right away with very little vetting and god knows no editing. american news consumers are a savvy lot. it says something that the family's only been shown 20 seconds. doesn't it hurt more to withhold what's out there? >> this was a really strange decision by law enforcement, because they certainly saw this clip before they played it for the family and their lawyers and have to have known what the reaction would be. and chief alexander is absolutely right. if the 21st century report on policing taught us anything, it's the criticality of transparency in policing, of earning the trust of the community by being transparent when something like this happens. i want to endorse something else he said, which is the importance
of looking at each of these situations individually. but nonetheless it's critical that a.g. garland has shown a willingness to use pattern and practice negotiations, because there is a disturbing trend of black men not emerging alive from these encounters. >> peter baker, last night's oscars were as much about this topic as they were about the movie business. joe biden comes to office with a full agenda, or so he thought, and while aides to the president have taken great pains to point out this subject matter was already a part of his agenda, it was already a big priority to him. walk us through the delicate walk he has ahead of him on this policy. >> well, that's right, brian. look, this issue was a big front and center issue during the campaign last year. he campaigned as a contrast to president trump's point of view,
which was law and order themed and not embracing the grievances in the streets. it is a tough challenge for president biden. he would like to be focused on the big spending plans that he's already pushing through congress, one on infrastructure, one to come next week on family aid in various ways. and, of course, this just continues to push this inner issue front and center. he obviously will have to address it in this speech. he's going to give a functional equivalent state of the union address to congress later this week. he has not so far taken action in the sense of using his executive power to try to do something about this, he has stepped back to allow congress to see if they can't come up with a deal. the house, of course, democrats passed the george floyd justice act last year. it hasn't gone anywhere in the senate, but timothy scott of
pennsylvania has tried to see if they can't do something first. but at some point the pressure will increase on him if they can't get congress to act, for him to find something to do using his executive power. so far that's something he wants to avoid because legislation is more permanent, more sustained than executive action, but there is a great pressure on him to do something. >> cedric, i want to play for you and our audience something i'm guessing you've already heard. this is the chief of police giving what is probably the most positive reaction ever to news there locally that the federal government was about to move in for a good long while and take a top to bottom look at their department. we'll discuss on the other side. >> recruiting across the united states in law enforcement is proving to be extremely challenging. we have to rebrand our product. i look at this as a huge opportunity to get us on the path forward that is most
beneficial for the police department. this is not a negative. with what these folks have been dealing with for the last nine months, i think i would like to believe they've dealt with the hardest part and that we can get to some level of normalcy in this city. >> and, chief alexander, what did you and i last discuss during our last on-air discussion, hiring and recruiting. is that, for you, the key to breaking this chain? >> it's absolutely no doubt about that, brian. it is very, very important that we've got to begin to look at who it is we are hiring. we've got to look beyond just their driving record or credit reference. we have to know their social media history, who their friends are, who they've associated with. we need to dig deeper into who these individuals are. then we've got to look at our training modalities and make sure that we're training properly according to 21st
century standards and what communities are asking us to do. then we've got to be able to put these men and women with good supervisors into a healthy police environment. but chief shields, whom you just heard in that moment, actually served at atlanta pd during the time i was at dekalb even though we did not know each other personally. but she is one of the boldest, she is upstanding, she believes in 21st century policing like many of us do across this country. and that's the type of straightforward answer and welcoming to be better that all of us must open ourselves up to in the coming months and days and years ahead. that is the right approach, that's the right attitude, and that's the right direction we have to go in. >> well, thank you for saying that, chief. it would be hard to script a better response to us consumers than the one she gave today.
joyce vance, what a sea change for your beloved department of justice, especially during the reign of bill barr. do you think four years from now, we will look back at this type of thing and, make no mistake, it's activist of the doj to do this, to send a planeload of people to arrive in a municipality and look at your police department top to bottom. do you think we'll look back at this as one of the hallmarks of the biden doj? >> it's increasingly looking like what you're calling activism and what i would call just simply representing the people of the united states of america, delivering the product that doj is supposed to deliver to taxpayers who pay for its services which is justice, and doing it by using the laws in an aggressive way. brian, i think the reason that you're right when you suggest that we should think about what this will look like four years down the road is because of the
kind of leadership that joe biden has brought to the justice department, not just attorney general garland who is both a scholar and a practition of leadership, but moynihan who is the new attorney general and her associate. we have high intelligence at the head there, and the work that people inside the justice department do isn't for their own pleasure or career advancement, it's on behalf of citizens. that's what we're seeing restored at doj under this new leadership. >> peter baker, some democrats you and i both know, it's starting to occur to them on the politics front they could be in big trouble in 2022.
mr. mccarthy wants very badly to be speaker and proved again over the weekend he is willing to say or do just about anything to make that happen, especially where trump is concerned. so the census lands with a thud. the south and west pick up seats. new york, california, not so much. should we regard biden's trip to georgia as a start of perhaps a new effort? >> well, it's certainly a way for him to touch base with one of the states that mid him president, and i think that's something you'll see a lot in the next two years heading into the midterms and four years heading into the next presidential. he's going to want to show a certain tender caring of the states that got him there, and that includes the three midwestern states that had gone for trump but flipped back to the democrats in 2020, and it's certainly going to include georgia and arizona which went into the democratic column. now, two years is a long way
off, four years is an eternity in politics, but you're right that republicans are feeling a certain degree of optimism right now. they're in florida at the house republicans' meeting, and the mood down there, we're told, is pretty upbeat. they only have a few seats they have to win in the midterm to take over the house, and traditionally the president's party doesn't always do so well in those midterms. the party thinks they have a lot to do where they can make the case for the american people. it also means there is less interest in any bipartisan dealmaking as we head into the next few weeks on these legislature questions. >> so appreciative of our big three for starting us off tonight. to peter bake, joyce vance, cedric alexander, thanks for being with us. coming up, he may not be on the invite list for the republican party's retreat that peter was just talking about in
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i think right now the republican party is headed by mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy in the house. i think our elected leaders, you know, are the ones in charge of the republican party. and i think as we look at '22 and '24, we are very much going to be focused on substance and the issues, and i think that's where we've got to attract back the voters we lost in 2020. >> that would be the number 3 republican in the house leadership in orlando today where republicans are holding
their annual legislative retreat. remember, liz cheney had to fight to keep her leadership post after voting to impeach the former president. it was reported today, indeed, she is mulling her own run, perhaps, in '24. "politico" reports the gop feels good about retaking the house next year, but, quote, republicans also know the next 18 months are littered with political trip wires with internal divisions of the former president trying to influence them from mar-a-lago and the ranks that threaten to swamp their agenda. a veteran political strategist with backs counters and causes, and one matthew o'dowd. in the past he was chief strategist for the bush campaign in '04. welcome to you both. matthew, it was the strength of your tweet that contributed greatly to your invitation tonight, and i read it to our
viewers. how does one reach consensus or compromise with folks who don't believe in climate change, who don't think people should take the vaccine, who think there was widespread voter fraud, who think biden stole the election, and who travel in conspiracy theories and falsehoods? matthew, i would proffer an answer by going deep on the trump base and seeing what that will get him in 2022. am i wrong? >> no, but i think that's where the republicans are today. i was thinking about this as i was pausing in your last segment, and what this is like in this constant insistence that somehow it's biden's responsibility to get the republicans on board in washington, d.c. it's a bit like if you were going to sail a boat around the world and you're captain of that boat, and you're being told to hire on people that don't believe in navigational devices
and believe the world is flat. you wouldn't hire those people on the boat, and that's where we are today. but, as i'll disagree with something liz cheney said, liz cheney and mitch mcconnell are not in charge of the republican party. and i don't even think there is any one person in charge of the republican party today. this is "animal house." there is no greek counsel, and the fraternity is in charge of the republican party and they've lost control of it. >> and we all know they're already on double secret probation. so, juanita, i have one for you. you're not going to like it as much. this is the work of marjorie taylor greene. she writes today, quote, remember when republicans lost the house in 2018 because a bunch of them distanced themselves from president trump? not inviting president trump to the gop retreat is the same stupid behavior. funny how they don't understand a record number of votes and support of any republican president. so a friend of mine reminded me
today that even a broken clock is right twice a day. juanita, here is the question. could it be she's right about this? >> brian, i'll say she's not wrong because i hesitate to agree with anything marjorie taylor greene says, but i think matt hit the nail on the head in saying that there is still a leader in the republican party especially when they're looking to chart this course on policy and pivot away from dr. seuss and other cultural awards, especially when they're trying to tap into the base that president trump riled up and trying to make grounds in 2022. i will say marjorie taylor greene is not wrong that them actively avoiding trump right now is not the best move. when you have a twice-impeached, single-term former president here, he is somebody they fully intend to tap into. that's why we see mccarthy going back to mar-a-lago.
that's why we see marjorie taylor greene introducing the first male caucus. even though that was a failed rollout, they know it resonates with their base, resonates with their voters. because that base is really a call to personality. >> matt, we're going to give you 60 seconds of gloating time about texas gaining two congressional seats. new york, california, not so much. talk about the political importance of your state and how great it is, especially when the power grid works. >> only when the power grid works. we were out of water and power for five days in the midst of that. to me texas is the best view of where the country is headed. as soon as texas shifts, which is going to happen in the next election or two to a purple state and then ultimately texas will become a blue state because of the demographics and what's going on in the suburbs, it
fundamentally changes the nature of the country's politics. because republicans have guaranteed themselves or counted on those electoral votes. but to me the most interesting stuff out of the census, and many times in the media, as you know this full well, brian, they have a tendency to concentrate on the noise and ignore the frequency of what's going on. 23 million americans were added in population from 2010 to 2020. more than 90% of those 23 million americans that were added are non-white. are non-white. it's going to be either the smallest or the first-time whites have dropped in population in our country. so i take a different view of the census data. i don't think it's a net gain for the republicans in this. they're going to lose a seat in west virginia, they're going to lose a seat in new york, they're going to lose a seat in illinois. that's net three down. that means they have to gain four more from the other states. and all of the population growth is among african-americans,
asian voters, latino voters and people of mixed race. all of the population growth is of non-white voters. and especially true in texas. >> juanita, i'm going to give the last word to you. i could only come up with the phrase solid numbness at the top of the broadcast as we all, as a country, learn two more names: andrew brown, isaiah brown. >> yeah, brian, this is yet another rinse and repeat cycle of police using deadly force against black and brown people, and what we saw as we found more information out about the body camera footage in both of these instances is neither of these individuals was a direct threat to police and yet they used deadly force. so this is another reminder that things need to change systemically within policing in this country, because i'm tired of seeing these footages. i'm tired of seeing black bodies
murdered at the hands of police, and i know the rest of this country is as well, and that's why it's time to pass the george floyd bill into congress, that's why it's time to reintroduce policing and stop killing black and brown people. >> the words "sick and tired of being sick and tired" come to mind once again. juanita toliver, bill o'dowd, thank you for coming on. an artist fought long and hard of having a massacre of a million armenians labeled a genocide. he's standing by to talk with us. a genocide he's standing by to talk with us mula smart conditioners to micro-target damage helping to repair hair without weighing it down. try pantene. front desk. yes, hello... i'm so... please hold. ♪♪ i got you. ♪ all by yourself. ♪ go with us and get millions of flexible booking options.
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throughout the years, the turks have made no attempts to rectify justice. they must consider claims, moral, legal and territorial. crimes against humanity have no statute of limitations. >> that clip right there was from a 1975 documentary called "the forgotten genocide 1975" by armenian born play maker crecore better known as mike conners,
also better known as mannix. he served a lot of armenian causes he never forgot. finally the united states has joined the list of nations on the right side of history on this one. on saturday, armenian remembrance day with the simple act of issuing a white house statement. joe biden fulfilled a promise made by multiple presidents before him, recognizing the mass killing of over a million armenians by ottoman turks in world war i as a genocide. president erdogan condemned that move, calling on biden to reverse his course. our next guest has dedicated years of his life to this issue, not just as an activist, but he has included it in his work for two decades as a solo artist and as the singer/songwriter of the
grammy-winning band. he appears in a more recent documentary called "truth to power." we are so pleased to welcome to the broadcast tonight surge contanian. surge, thanks for being here today. i don't know an armenian family in all my life where the kids in that family didn't grow up steeped in these stories and told the phrase we associate with a later genocide, never forget. i'm guessing that is the case with you. i'm also guessing there may have been times during your adult lifetime when this, the united states using the g word, probably seemed unattainable. >> absolutely, brian. thanks for having me on. you know, all four of my grandparents were survivors of the armenian genocide. and we grew up with stories of how their families were massacred and how -- what a tough life they had and what
they had to live through. so seeing president biden recognize the gengenocide, bein the first president to formally recognize the genocide is huge, not just to armenian americans but to armenians around the world, greeks and syrians around the world who were also massacred by the ottoman turks in 1919, and it's a huge milestone for receiving justice from turkey, ultimately. >> let's speak english here. erdogan is bummed because he's lost the best friend he was ever going to have in the white house. why is he so immovable and deeply upset at the use of the word genocide given the fact that, as you say, it happened so long ago? >> first of all, brian, turkey is not a free society. if you were in turkey, you would likely be in jail for all the exposes you have done over the years, and their foreign policy has been horrible in recent --
last year they, along with aser bejung, they attacked the peaceful people who have lived on indigenous lands for 25 years. they have wreaked havoc in syria and libya with their drilling practices. turkey society is based on a myth, and they've been lying to their people for 106 years. and it's going to be hard for him to go back and tell them that they've been lied to for 106 years, that those lands are steeped with blood of our people, 1.5 million massacred greeks and armenians in world war i. it's unforgettable. we hope one day we can attain justice from turkey, but it doesn't seem like something that would happen under viktor erdogan's regime. >> let me bring this story alongside another story that has changed the direction of news coverage in this country, and
i'll say this. the george floyd verdict wasn't the end of anything, nor, people need to understand, does this declaration end anything. tell our viewers what's yet to be done, what needs to be done. you touched on it in your last answer. >> well, first we're really grateful that turkey can no longer spend millions of dollars with law firms trying to get the state department not to use the word genocide. we're grateful for that. genocide should never be used for political or capital reasons. just like the holocaust after world war ii, there should be some type of reparations, setting up of museums, but first and foremost, there should be an apology by turkey, a recognition of its own history, of its own past, for the sake of its own history and its own people. it's not for the greeks and
armenians. i'm not sure what particular steps in that process, but i think that's going to have to be the next step. we have to end at justice, because people always ask me, what would happen if turkey just came one day and said, okay, we recognize the genocide. and i always say that's like someone that you're chasing for 100 years that burned down your house and killed your family to finally turn around and go, all right, fine, i did it, what? what does that mean without justice? killers go to jail. what does that mean without justice? we need to get justice ultimately, but this is an amazing first step. we're extremely grateful, we're extremely excited of the possibilities that this can open with other nations recognizing the genocide. the u.k. still hasn't. australia and new zealand still hasn't, and we're going after them for them to be able to do the right thing with their history as well. their own history marks the refugees that anzak soldiers
even protected. this is getting there. it's an incredible step in the right direction. >> i can see you have found a moment to feel good about the advance that this indicates while you lay out in graphic detail the work yet to be done. surge tonkian, it's a great pleasure having you on. thank you for your work, the music you make in that room and elsewhere, thank you for your advocacy. again, to our viewers, the documentary is called "truth to power." and, by the way, the new lp "elasticity" both available to listen to and to buy. an er doctor calls this debate of wearing masks outdoors hilarious. wearing masks indoors, he says, is a different story. he'll explain all of this when we come back. tory he'll explain all of this when we come back
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the trends are down. the gains we're seeing is because of immunity in a population, where the gains we saw before were people prudent of what they were doing. now it's a form of herd immunity. >> that was good news that can only be jeopardized by vaccine hesitancy at this point. over half the adult population in our country has received at least one dose of the vaccine, but the average number of doses administered per day has dropped to 2.7 million. that might seem like a lot, but it appears to be the lowest level since late march. back with us again tonight, clinical assistant professor at the university of arizona's college of medicine in phoenix. doctor, i don't need to tell you the debate over mask wearing.
indoors it's nothing like the debate over mask wearing outdoors. before i get you on the record, i'm going to share something with you. mr. tucker carlson from fox news tonight. we'll discuss on the other side. >> the next time you see someone in a mask on the sidewalk or on the bike path, do not hesitate. ask politely or firmly, would you please take off your mask? science shows there is no reason for you to be wearing it. your mask is making me uncomfortable. your response when you see children wearing masks as they play should be no different to your response at seeing someone beat a kid at walmart. call the police immediately. contact child protective services. >> doctor, what do you make of that? >> yeah. somebody wearing a mask is exactly like somebody beating a child. that's ridiculous. i see people in the er who actually have been through child abuse. that's a horrible situation to
make light of it. clearly wearing a mask harms no one. it actually helps a lot of people. i'll grant if you're outdoors and distanced from people, there is probably limited value. but there is no value in going up to somebody on a bike and saying, excuse me, take off your mask, you're making me feel uncomfortable. it's amazing how much tucker and his audience get triggered by people wearing a mask. all we're doing is trying to save people's lives. >> doctor, why the dropoff in vaccination rate in our country? again, 2.7 million a day if you told us a year ago would have been miraculous, and it still is, but it's down from the highs in march. >> yeah, i don't want to take away from on you impressive a feat this is. clearly the amount of vaccination that's happened is really amazing. we knew we were going to reach a plateau at some point. i remember early in the pandemic
i was wondering where did all the anti-vaxers go? hopefully they went into a hole and never come out. well, they came out. there are plenty of people who say, i don't want to get vaccinated. if it really is 30%, that would be pretty horrible. it's funny, early in the pandemic we were saying it's not vaccines that save lives but vaccinations that save lives. we've gotten a few vaccines that are very effective, but they're only effective if you get them. if you want to reach herd immunity, the only way of getting it is by vccinaing people or infecting people. i can tell you right now, people who come into the hospital are not doing well. vaccinating is much better. >> looking at the decor behind you, that would be a white wall. i was interested to learn that
the eu is going to allow american tourists to fly to europe. they're going to demand proof of vaccination, so that will be interesting. you mentioned herd immunity. how close by or how illusive, in your view, is that tipping point of herd immunity for us? >> for one, my apologies for the decor. it's ironic herd immunity is such a gettable task. when you look at the number of people who have been vaccinated and the number of people who have been infected, it may not be that far off. the issue is in that time while you're waiting for that immunity, variants form and they spread. the virus doesn't care what humans want. it will mutate the longer it's there. remember, this is a global virus.
so if we reach herd immunity in the united states and you get on a plane and travel, that doesn't mean you necessarily aren't going to spread the virus or have other people spread it. we really need to work together. i know it sounds cliche, but it's not just us in this. everyone around the world need to get vaccinated. helping them helps us. >> dr. akhter, thank you for taking all our questions. back into the er, i'm afraid, but greatly appreciate the work you do by day and night. another break to us, and coming up, a further update on the dire situation unfolding in india. unfolding in india. a cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. visit letsmakeaplan.org to find your cfp® professional. ♪♪ to be a thriver with metastatic breast cancer means... grabbing a hold of what matters.
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day. that's by far the worst in the world. that's ten times our daily rate. some hospitals are simply unable to care for incoming patients there. the u.s. is sending badly needed oxygen and medical supplies in response to pleas from overwhelmed doctors in india. we get our report tonight from nbc news chief correspondent richard engel. >> reporter: india is gasping for air with more new covid cases per day than anywhere at any time in the pandemic. this sikh temple in new delhi is providing what they can. his brother is trying to keep him alive. he's not a doctor but he isn't giving up. alex crawford from our apartment sky news is at an overwhelming hospital. >> they've had to build tents in cart park to cope with all these
cases. all these people are suffering from coronavirus, all of them need oxygen. >> reporter: others die while they wait. funeral pyres are now burning outside crematoriums with the second most populated country overwhelmed with the worst resurgence of the virus since the pandemic began. india manufactures much of the world's vaccines but it has only fully vaccinated 2% of its own population. india also has its own variant of the virus, and the more it spreads uncontrolled, the more likely new variants are to emerge. >> and, as always, our thanks to richard engel for that report tonight. we'll introduce you to a guy who is pretty sure there was nothing here when those first white european settlers arrived. .
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last thing before we go tonight is that guy, rick santorum. since losing his pennsylvania senate seat to bob casey years ago, santorum has found one-off cable stardom as republican guy on numerous cnn panel discussions where he's mastered the art of sounding candid while slowly migrating his positions from republican to full-on trumper. he ran for president for about ten minutes in 2016, got out after the iowa caucus. he has said his share of remarkable things over the years, comparing homosexuality to bestiality comes to mind, as does his use of the word nazis to describe the pro-choice crowd. when this surfaced, a portion of his remarks to the young america's foundation, it has to do with the first europeans
arriving here. >> we birthed a nation from nothing. there was nothing here. yes, we had native americans, but candidly there isn't much native american culture in american culture. it was borne of the people who came here. >> you before being wiped out and then having their survivors segregated to this day. that's the history, but there's always another version. it's not unlike cable in that way. there is the history channel and there's drunk history, so there's something for everybody. that is our broadcast for this monday night as we start a new week together with our thanks for being here with us. on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. >>