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hello, everyone. i'm alicia menendez. this hour, keeping up with the gop. one of the most famous trans americans says she wants to run for california governor as a republican. also tonight, demands for justice and police reform in the streets across america after separate shootings in ohio and north carolina reveal yet again an all too in common threat in our country. plus more than half of all states are considering bills to restrict the right to protest. in four states, these crackdowns are already law. what you should know about your rights. and the immigration story you're not hearing enough about. haitian refugees still facing deportation.
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this is "american voices." before donald trump, there was ronald reagan and arnold schwarzenegger in california. through the years, the golden state has made it somewhat of a norm for celebrities to assume public office. next could be caitlyn jenner. this week she made it official, saying she will run for governor if gavin newsom, the current governor, is recalled, requiring a special election later this year. it is unclear if that gop effort will be successful. "the new york times" reports the recall effort is, quote, the work of republicans struggling to maintain relevance in the overwhelmingly democratic state. polling shows only 40% of california voters support a recall. governor gavin newsom not even fazed. here he was today with reporters. >> 41%, 41% of america's jobs came out of the state of
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california in february. we're running close to record surpluses and the highest reserve in our state's history, 94% ipos year to date in the state of california. bloomberg just came out, number one state in america in innovation and we're dominant still in venture capital and small business starts. this state's going to come roaring back. so to answer your question, that's what i'm focused on. >> it's unclear if caitlyn jenner will ever become a candidate. it's also unknown how her candidacy would go over within the republican party. not just in progressive california but in nationwide politics. caitlyn calls herself a compassionate disrupter who is focused on getting the state back on track. but running as a republican will require her to explain how she represents a party that as of late appears obsessed with rolling back trans rights, not to mention the rights of many other marginalized americans. joining me now, philip buff, national correspondent with "the washington post," democratic
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strategist juanita tolliver, and matt dowd, chief strategist for the bush/cheney 2004 campaign. matt dowd, i want to start with you and read you back that "new york times" quote, calling the recall the work of republicans struggling to maintain relevance in the overwhelmingly democratic state. matt, do you think that is a fair analysis? >> it's definitely a fair analysis. the republicans in california today have less voters than the decline to state. democrats and decline to state are a bigger share than republicans for the state. i worked for arnold schwarzenegger back in the day. the last republican to win statewide who wasn't really a republican in the state. he was able to win because he wasn't really a republican. and one thing to keep in mind as we talk about this, the chances of a recall of gavin newsom are exceedingly small. the last time a governor was recalled there was gray davis in 2003.
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gray davis had a 24% job approval rating in 2003. today california is more democratic, much more democratic than it was 18 years ago, and gray davis has a 52% job approval rating. gray davis has a higher job approval rating than more than half the governors in the country. so i don't know where this recall goes even before we get to caitlyn jenner. the idea that you're going to recall a governor who a majority of the state supports seems to be a bit of a republicans' dream and seems to be some consultants want to continue to make money off republican voters who don't seem to know reality. >> philip, in addition to everything matt laid out, there's also the state has changed demographically. the circumstances, the conditions of this have changed. and to me, that becomes a microcosm for what we are seeing in many other pockets of this country. >> yeah. that's true. i mean, california absolutely is
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the poster child for the evolution of america, if you will. matt's point about how things have changed there since 2003 is spot on. i was there in 2003. i worked in california that year. it's gotten much more densely democratic. that's a trend we see nationally. a lot of urban areas see an increased percentage of democrats, young college graduates in particular. that's something that's affecting california and reshaping its politics pretty dramatically. i think matt's absolutely right that the recall itself is problematic. but this is something that the republicans have been scrambling. keep in mind, the way that you get the recall on the ballot is you have to get a certain number of signatures. california is a massive state. you put money behind it, you can get the signatures. but ppic has this thing below water already with the recall effort. it's already polling below the level it needs to pass. so it doesn't matter who the candidates are. even so, to have a republican say, well, i'm going to step up and be the person to replace gavin newsom, whoever that
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republican is, that's not online. >> i want to go back to something else, this idea of republican consultants needing to bring in business. axios is reporting that donald trump's former campaign manager, brad parscale, helped jenner bring together a team. there are others in the trump orbit who have joined jenner's campaign. we keep coming back to this question of what the gop looks like in a, quote, unquote, post-trump world, but the fact that these consultants are still being hired and still put on teams, seems as though it factors into that conversation, right? >> absolutely, alicia. right? like, caitlyn jenner already has trump's pollster, trump's fundraiser, and former campaign manager already engaged right now. what that shows is that she is ready and willing to use trump's playbook but these consultants think they have a chance to make a dent in a state like california using trump's playbook. it's really jarring for her as a
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celebrity/trans woman running in this race to try to lean on her identity as well as her celebrity here in what is honestly not going to work with the gop still positioned and actively attacking trans people and trans children across the country. and so there's going to be this moment where we're seeing the gop has to reconcile -- you're causing harm to this community, yet you have a trans woman who is representing the gop in this gubernatorial race potentially, and how are they going to square that? we've already seen the lgbtq community call this out for what it is. it is hollow representative politics where we see a candidate who has not demonstrated the values of the lgbtq community trying to leverage them here in this moment. >> philip, i want to switch gears and talk about something else that we watched unfold this week. we're going to see it unfold with a number of the nominees coming out of the biden administration. the gop targeting a lot of these
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women of color, benita gupta has been confirmed, but you see the amount of gop opposition that came out. i wonder, did she ever have a chance to be considered on her qualifications? >> there's a broader question, which is the extent to which the republicans who are in the senate are going to give any biden nominee their full-throat endorsement. we haven't seen that happen yet. the recent pattern is this exactly what happens. >> obviously, one of the undergirding ironies is the biden administration is actively seeking out people who tend to be younger and people of color and tend to have been more engaged in politics than we saw in the trump administration. so they have this track record of being politically engaged. and saying things that one says in a political context, which he may not sound so great when you're sitting in a senate confirmation hearing. but of course we're also coming
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off four years of republicans acidously asserting they have not had a chance to see donald trump's most recent tweets. so there is no opportunism because the team is engaged in the political conversation that's out there. they've tried to use that against them, which is both hypocritical and something we've seen that has only once that i can think of that's been successful. >> matt, several republicans prepared what seemed like gotcha moments for these doj appointees. here's senator ted cruz with kristen clarke on attending a conference as a college student. take a listen. >> if there's a police officer in philadelphia or new jersey today watching this hearing, how are they supposed to react to your nomination to one of the senior positions at the department of justice knowing that as a student you participated in a conference celebrating and lionizing cop killers who murdered a
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philadelphia police officer and a new jersey state trooper? how should a cop today watching this react to that news? >> matt, who is the real audience for these attacks? >> i think this is a great question because the republican party in washington, d.c., all of them, ted cruz is a perfect example of it, doesn't care about legislating anymore. they've given up on legislating and given up on a vision for broadly what they want to do in america. they've fundamentally given up any sort of political real ideology. all it is is about viral moments. look at ted cruz's twitter feed. look what every time ted cruz does things. he's not arguing about tax rates. he's not arguing about what should we do on education. he's not arguing about those. he's doing these kind of things over and over and over again because the republican party today does not stand for anything. basically their platform in 2020 was donald trump is great. that was their platform in 2020. and i don't think they have anywhere to go right now.
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they have no argument to the american public. and i think what their biggest argument with the people that are dominated by joe biden was that joe biden's cabinet for the first time in american history looks like america, looks like america for the first time in history. they don't think his cabinet looks like the republican party. that's their fundamental problem. >> juanita, i waited to come to you so you could have the final word. what did you think as you watched these confirmation hearings? >> alicia, matt hit the nail on the head. they're not working to legislate. in fact, they're only trying to create moments that appeal to the same base they want to get tapped into from trump. the folks that worshiped trump are going to react to moments like this when they see them trying to stick it to women of color and power, women fighting to expand civil rights and framing them in a way as though they're taking something from the predominantly white gop voting base. and that's the chum they're feeding to their base right now that is going to keep fueling
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their political interests, fueling their tv appearances, fueling their viral moments. but it honestly just falls flat to the broader american public that knows these women are more than qualified and we have no doubt about the fact that they're absolutely being disgusting in their targeting of women of color in these high-power positions. >> thank you all for getting us started. next, how the police involved killing of a black teen in ohio is highlighting an all too frequent intersection of race, gender, and safety across america. plus, the right to say no is as american as apple pie, so why is the party of america first so eager to restrict first amendment rights? we'll ask a lawyer from the aclu. >> but first, to richard lui who's got a look at the other big stories we're strakds right now at msnbc. richard? >> good saturday. today president biden became the first u.s. president to formally recognize the armenian genocide
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it's an absolute emotional roller coaster and a total nightmare. so it's like we don't get a chance to process one death before there's another one that we have to respond to. >> before the country could even wrap its head around news of derek chauvin's murder conviction this week, news of two more police killings hit the headlines. demonstrators are out in
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columbus, ohio, demanding accountability for the killing of 16-year-old ma'khia bryant. police were called to a home on tuesday and graphic body footage that we're not going to show you shows several people involved in an altercation. police claim bryant attempted to stab someone before four shots were fired, killing bryant. there are a ton of unknowns in this case. there's no arguing that a child just lost her life at the hands of police. >> i'm a mother. i keep running back to that. my daughter at that age was the same size as this young lady. just brings back, you know -- this could have been my child. could have been mine. >> the bryant family demanding justice for ma'khia while remembering her as a good student and a good person. so now a frank discussion about why black children in this country aren't always seen as children
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in the eyes of those sworn by oath to keep them safe. joining me monique w. morris. president and ceo of grant-makers for girls of colors, and author of "pushout: the criminalization of black girls in schools." professor of women and gender studies at rutgers university, she's also the author of "eloquent rage: a black feminist discovers her superpower." monique, not only in the deadly encounter, but in much of the analysis that has followed the killing of ma'khia bryant, she wasn't treated like a kid, and that's not singular to her story. it's part of a larger bias against black girls and women. when you talk about the adultification of black girls, how did that play out in the case of ma'khia bryant? >> thank you for having me on, alicia. adultification bias is really the reading of black girls as more adult-like than their white peers. it's an age compression that erases their normal adolescent
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behavior and heightens our propensity to respond to young people as of they're fully developed adults. the bottom line is ma'khia should be with us today. black girls deserve just and liberated futures. not only does her shooting -- reveal the limitations of the adult imagination when young people are in crisis, but how the vestiges of slavery, particularly the dehumanization of black girls continue to shape ideas about how to bring remedy to black girls' moments of disruption and dysregulation. what adultification interferes with the ability to see black girls' defense as a function of victimization and to recognize that we adults, especially adults called to be first responders should always be working on our capacity to elevate the need to preserve life and be part of a tapestry of healing rather than a tapestry of harm. >> bennet, to put this in even
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sharper contrast, talk to us about the difference between the adultification of black girls like like ma'khia bryant and the infantilization of rioters like those from the capitol attack. >> that's right. so we see, you know, white men who stormed the capitol, attempted a coup as children and boys. they get called young people who are sort of raucous. so there's a way that when we see and understand people as children, then we understand the societal duty to protect them. meanwhile, when we talk about black girls, look, we don't even understand black girls as girls. we call them grown. people have talked about ma'khia's size and the way the officer couldn't perceive her as a child. the same thing happened to tamir rice who was killed for playing with a toy gun in a park. he was 12 and the person who called in his potential criminality said he was 20. and so there is a way that we ask young black people -- we rob them of childhood and societal
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protection. we particularly do this to girls. and i want to be even sharper. we were able to procure a conviction in the derek chauvin case in large part because of a girl, because of darnella frazier, who is a black girl, who was traumatized, whose future has been shaped by watching the cops murder this man. and then on the day that there was victory, that she might have have some semblance of relief, she also had to get the story that this black girl in columbus, ohio, had been murdered by the cops. we need to begin asking ourselves what does it mean to build a world that is safe for black girls because if we center them in our discourse and don't just keep using them to expose all of the problems in our society, we would actually do better around policing, state violence, the providing of a social safety net, better educational services, all of the things that our social justice movements are asking us to imagine. >> just a few weeks ago i had
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dr. morris on and we were talking about joy and freedom and this is a such pivot to have to make. it took nearly a year to convict former officer derek chauvin of george floyd's murder. so far nothing has happened to the officer involved in shooting ma'khia bryant, though he's off the streets. why does it often take longer for society to recognize the injustice against black women and girls? >> we perpetually see black girls as perpetrators. in addition to us adultifying black girls, we're still rendering them as black people who are constantly criminalized and seen as people who cause harm. and so we are looking for justifications. the way in which we approach situations like this is presuming that we are looking for a reason for the cop to be right. we are looking for justifications. we're looking for it to be reasonable where there's no reason that we should have the engagement that we have that
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that 16-year-old girl should not be here with us making beautiful tiktok videos and showing us her black girl joy and all of her magic. instead, she's experiencing what black folks experience in this nation, being criminalized, demonized, being uncared for, being unprotected. and so when you have cases like this, there's an incredible bias even in our media in covering this, that so quickly we see an attempt to make this reasonable, to make this justifiable, to make the criminal punishment system not a punishment system, but one where justice can be found. and that is just simply not true. and so you see a lot of people doing acrobatics to show why ma'khia deserved to die, not why she deserved to live, and everybody in that scene deserved to live. instead, we're having to prove over and over and over again reason and reason and time after
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time that black life matters. we're still talking about mattering. we're not even talking about being valid, thriving, and joy and all the things we have a right too as well, but mattering enough that you de-escalate and care for and attempt to protect. >> that's why i think the tiktok videos that ma'khia created that show her doing her hair have become so powerful and so shared because they're in such sharp contrast to some of the other narratives we've seen out there. you know, brittany, i want to talk about respectability politics, about this idea about how black women should behave, to be accepted and safe in society. how does that then contribute to falsely blaming victims of police violence for their own circumstances? >> yes. it's a wonderful question. one of the ways that black folks have survived the onslaught of state violence and this tendency in government to advocate all responsibility to protect us is
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to internalize that it is our job to protect ourselves and by doing that we say that we have to be perfect, that we can never screw up, never have a bad day, because we understand the black experience has been that the consequences of even one bad day can ruin your life, and in this case, end your life. so black communities -- we police each other. we police our dress, our speech, our comportment, our attitudes, our education, the way we show up because we also understand that we are collectively perceived. this becomes a challenge for black women because we are expected to be strong, to be perfect, to be ladylike, but we are expected to be those things in a world that doesn't understand us as women or ladies, doesn't understand us as worthy of the protections that come with white femininity. that's why people keep talking about ma'khia's body. i say this as a fat black woman that her being of size means that people cannot perceive her as feminine, dainty, and more to the point, vulnerable and, therefore, worthy of protection, even
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though this was a little girl who was reported to have been in foster care, which means she had already been failed by so many systems. we had an even greater duty to protect her. one of the challenges of this moment has been -- this is not mainstream people shaming ma'khia, black people have a reckoning how we protect and look at black girls and we don't internalize the harm that white supremacy has done to us and we don't engage as a community in self-blame in saying she got what she deserved because she wasn't perfect. as dr. morris pointed out, she was a teen girl, not a grown woman, and was a teen girl in a terrible situation to make terrible choices from a set of really horrible options. >> just keep thinking about that mom who said it could have been my daughter. so many moms and women across america having that exact thought. thank you all so much. next, your right to protest under attack across several states. how well do you know your constitutional rights? if you have to think about it, you should probably stick around.
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in this country, it is your right to protest anything you want to peacefully. dissent is required in a democracy, hence why our founding fathers made free speech the first amendment. without protecting rights guaranteed by the constitution and electing those who will are just words on paper. what our founding fathers called a parchment guarantee. it's concerning that four states signed bills into law attacking the right to protest. more than 80 anti-protest bills are circulating in more than half of all states. so with all that, we thought it was important to ensure that you know your rights. joining me is staff attorney for the american civil liberties union speech privacy and technology project. good to see you. as a staff attorney for the
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aclu, how concerned are you about the effect that these new laws could have on law abiding citizens enacting their first amendment rights? >> you know, these are quite terrifying times for protests because legislatures across the country are doing their best to try to prohibit people from protesting, despite the fact that what governments should be doing is listening and trying to understand their concerns. instead they're trying to silence them. >> i wanted to get sort of really actionable with you because i think sometimes we look at these pieces of legislation and it's hard to know how they would impact us. so what are some of the legal rights that people should know they have if they are attending a protest? >> the first thing to remember is that all of us by virtue of being human beings have the right to freedom of expression and the first amendment guarantees our right to freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. you have a right to take to the streets, especially on public property.
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it's important to know whether you're on public or private property. if you're on private property, the property owner can ask you to move. but, you know, on the sidewalk, in a park, in those types of public spaces, that's what we call a traditional public forum which, since the founding of this country and long before, has always been a place where people can come to express themselves, to voice their grievances, and to try to change their world and their country. >> we've seen in the past few years the power that filming can have. and so i wonder, are there any limitations on the right to film? >> you do have the right to film police officers in public in the course of their jobs. if they ask you to step back, if they say you're interfering in their work, they can ask you to give them a little bit of space. but you don't have to stop filming. what we've seen is that sometimes officers will say, oh, i need you to delete that photo or let me look through those photos. in that situation, the officer does not have the right to look
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through your photos. they need a warrant from a judge in order to search your phone. even if they had a warrant from a judge, they wouldn't have the right to delete those photos. now, that being said, as you mentioned, we have these rights, but we know that these rights are violated on a regular basis. so, you know, when you're face-to-face with police officers, especially when it's a protest about the police, there is a special flavor to protests that are about the police because they're heavily armed and they're right across from you. people use their right to poses -- protests for issues big and small every day, almost without incident. so i don't want to make it sound like -- >> it's important. >> things are going to be -- something terrible is going to happen. i went to a protest with my son's elementary school, no one was in danger. but when you're protesting the police and they're heavily armed and a few feet away, confrontation is much more likely. so you need to be thoughtful about which protest you want to participate in and what your level of risk might be. that said, you do have to right to film. we know without filming the
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police, this movement would be nowhere near where it is today. so you do have that right, but whether you choose to push back against a police officer, especially if you're african-american, especially if you're a black man, if you're another person of color or an undocumented person, you really do have to make your own calculation about how much you're going to assert your rights, even though they are guaranteed by the first amendment. when you're face-to-face with a police officer, you have to make your own decision about how much you're going to push back and stand on principle. >> what should people know if they're detained by a police officer at a protest? >> if a police officer -- they sometimes just want to chat and see if they can get you to say something. if a police officer starts talking to you, say as little as possible. they do have the right in some states to ask for your name, but stay calm, keep your hands visible. as you see in the graphic. but the number one thing is ask if you're free to leave. if the officer says yes, just walk away.
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that means that you're not under arrest or being detained. if the officer says no, you cannot leave, that means you are under arrest and you have the right to ask for a phone call. one thing to keep in mind is when you call a lawyer, they cannot listen to your phone call. but when you call someone else, they are likely to listen in. even though they're not supposed to listen to lawyers' phone calls, sometimes they do. so for younger folks, for people who might be calling their family or their friends to help them if they're arrested, just know that's not the time to spill the beans and say everything that happened. just let them know where you are and how they can help you because it's likely that the police are still listening in. >> emerson, thank you so much for your time. next, a new administration, the same problems persist for haitian refugees. why? later, india's covid crisis and what the united states could do to help. we'll be right back.
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despite unrest in haiti, haitians seeking refuge in the united states are being deported. the haitian bridge alliance reports an average of 30 deportation flights to haiti since february. included in the 1,500 so far, pregnant women, entire families, and children between the ages of 1 and 13. the u.s. is sending them back to conditions to troubling, even the united states issued a level 4 do not travel advisory to haiti due to kidnappings, crime, civil unrest and the pandemic. a new report is calling on the
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biden administration to stop these deportations happening under the trump-era policy called title 42. here's what the white house press secretary said about that just yesterday. >> we understand and we have heard the frustration about this issue, but our objective is to keep systems in place or keep policies in place or implement policies that help us address the pandemic. >> you have some goals or some goals of when you may be able to lift title 42? >> i can't make a prediction of that. that will, of course, be based on what the evaluation is by our health and medical experts on the status of the pandemic and the safety of the american people. >> with me is the president of the haitian bridge alliance. tell us more about the effects of title 42, specifically on haitian immigrants. what are you hearing and seeing amid these deportations? >> thank you so much, alicia,
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for having me. what we are seeing is complete chaos. the fact that we see that president biden and his administration continues to use title 42 to deport and expel people specifically to haiti, as you just mentioned, that the united states just highlighted haiti as a level 4, do not travel, and at the same time we see as of yesterday 30 deportation expulsion flights to haiti, including pregnant women, infants as young as one month old, children, instead of protecting them, we continue to use this title 42 as a trap to literally continue the same system that trump has put in place, which is unacceptable. and that is why we as a community are calling on president biden to immediately rescind title 42.
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>> talk to me about that super this has become one of the stickiest questions in all of this. what would it means to get rid of title 42? >> what it will mean to get rid of title 42, it will mean to actually provide a way for people to safely apply for asylum at the u.s./mexico bored. it will mean that we actually know for a fact that that medical officials have said that title 42 has no bearing, you know, the way they're using it. because we are seeing if title 42 has no bearing the way they are using it because we are seeing if title 42 is being used as a way to protect the americans from covid, understanding that they test those people before deporting them. therefore, if they are tested negative, then they do not -- they do not bring any risk to the american people. and we want to make sure that not only those asylum seekers, migrants, and babies are protected, but they are also
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being able to be cared for and welcomed with dignity. so title 42 as we see being used is unacceptable and borderline illegal. >> i want to talk about the report released this week. human rights first tracking 500 attacks and kidnappings suffered by asylum seekers, turned away or stranded in mexico since president biden took office. what are the realities of what black immigrants specifically face when they are expelled into mexico? what have you heard? >> again, alicia, thank you. as of yesterday, i received a call at 6:00 a.m. where one of the people from haiti who has been in tijuana for the past four years was being held at gunpoint. and he was robbed and he was unable to tell us if he was robbed by regular people on the street, by a gang, by the cartel, or by the police. simply he said that they took his money, they stabbed him,
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they were wearing blue vests and they said that they were officials. but they didn't have any i.d. and he barely escaped because he paid them so they could let him go. that happened yesterday. so the danger for haitian immigrants, the danger for black immigrants as they travel this long, long journey to come and ask for asylum is unsafe for them, understanding that those black immigrants, those haitian immigrants, those ethiopian immigrants are most vulnerable. they cannot escape. the moment they step foot on the soil, they see that they don't belong there. you know, unlike the central and south americans from guatemala and honduras who might pass, they might be able to blend into the community in tijuana or in reynosa or tapachula. but if you're black, there's in
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india is in the grip of a devastating covid crisis. it's estimated that one person dies every 4 minutes in india's capital city. here's nbc's matt bradley. >> reporter: tonight an entire subcontinent is gasping for air as india breaks another world record for new daily infections nearly 350,000 on saturday alone. hospitals are turning patients away for lack of oxygen. many arrive barely able to walk.
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this young girl watched her mother die minutes after arriving to the hospital. >> when you walk outside the hospital and you see that rush and people calling, frantic calls, crying on the phone please can you help me can you help me get a bed and all i can say is yes i'm trying. >> reporter: the government flying in oxygen tanks and sending in special oxygen express trains around the country. >> who'd ever think there'd be a lack of oxygen to breathe. it's terrible. >> reporter: crematories overflowing with corpses, so families have been allowed to bury their loved ones wherever they can, even in their back yard. and desperate to find medical care some are resorting to the black market. >> i am searching on the streets. >> reporter: the black market price for one shot of the covid treatment remdesivir, $1,000, as much as he earns in a month. >> people are dying on the roads. people are crying please give us one dose of injection. >> reporter: fewer than 1.5% of india's population is fully vaccinated.
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only two months ago, it looked like india had avoided the worst. >> we thought we had won the war against covid. >> the government relaxed rules, even allowed a huge festival just a few weeks ago, a complacency that stirred india's unexpected second wave into a tsunami. matt bradley, nbc news. next, a teen who witnessed a horrific death may have just triggered long-standing change across america, that's why she's our loudest voice of the week. at the top of the hour it's "the week" with joshua johnson. josh. .
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as thousands continue to protest in the streets demanding police reform here's one of the loudest voices making that call. >> darnella is one of our heroes for sure. had it not been for that video and this pandemic where everybody just happened to be in a space where they were available to see it.
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>> that was tara brown, cousin of george floyd speaking about darnella frasier, the teenager whose cellphone video united a global movement. she was only 17 years old when she witnessed and recorded the murder of george floyd. without her bravery to stay on the scene and record what happened, it's reasonable to argue accountability may have never come to the former officer just convicted in the killing. and it wasn't just her video that moved the needle, but her eyewitness testimony at derek chauvin's trial describing not just the killing but the trauma that continues. >> he cried for his mom. he was in pain. it seemed like he knew it was over for him. he was terrified. he was suffering. this was a cry for help. it's the nights i stayed up
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apologizing and apologizing to george floyd for not doing more and not physically interacting and not saving his life. >> amid weeks of testimony from expert witnesses and medical experts was darnella's frasiers words that moved the jury. >> what stuck in my mind as i said i was up close to the witness stand and her words of apologizing to mr. floyd at night over and over, that she couldn't sleep and she was sorry she couldn't do more to save his life. that was pretty impactful to me. it hurt me. >> darnella's actions speak to the power of bystanders, the power of black girls, her words, her video leading to a year of protests and potential legislative change. it's the power of speaking up when it feels impossible to do so. that's why darnella frasier is our loudest voice of the week.
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that is all the time i have for today. i'm alicia menendez. before we go, a reminder to catch our special report tomorrow night, american voices, latinos and the covid fight with dr. anthony fauci and congressman raul ruiz. i hand it over now to my friend and colleague zerlina maxwell. it is so fun to be with you. i cannot wait to watch your show. >> thank you so much. it's good to be with you tonight. i'm zerlina maxwell. joshua johnson has the week off. in north carolina another black man is dead and several police officers are placed on leave. police body camera footage of a 42-year-old father of seven andrew brown, jr. fatally shot by police could be released at any moment. there are more questions than answers at the moment. the reverend dr. william barber is here to discuss. plus congresswoman maxine waters joins us. lawmakers


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