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decision day for the johnson & johnson vaccine. health officials are meeting to determine whether or not the nation's only single dose vaccine can go back into circulation after the fda paused its use over concerns about some rare instances of blood clots. president biden is getting ready to unveil a massive plan for roughly $1.5 trillion in spending aimed to help american families. capitol hill sees movement on potential deals around police reform, china and immigration. the. the white house keeps its focus on the climate crisis. one biden official declaring the issue is now at the center of american foreign policy. welcome to friday.
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it's "meet the press daily." i'm chuck todd. for the first time in what seems like a very, very long time we are tracking multiple developments on capitol hill. republicans and democrats are talking about this weird thing i think we call it compromising. it's obviously very hard to pronounce that word since we don't use it very often on potential deals. it's strange. especially in the otherwise toxic political climate. we don't know -- we don't want to get ahead of ourselves. i would call this cautious pessimism. that's still an upbeat view. this is what we know. in the wake of the guilty verdict in the chauvin trial, karen bass, cory booker are talking with tim scott on a serious way forward on police reform. they are not just talking talking but starting to exchange a proposal or two. they are sounding optimistic about a prospect for a deal. >> i think we have to resolve a
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few things, continue our discussions. but hopefully, my fingers crossed, hopefully, we're very close. >> i think we are on the verge of wrapping this up in the next week or two, depending on how quickly they respond to our suggestions. >> whether a deal comes together, obviously, we shall see. the question is, does everybody want to get to yes? tim scott does have the power to pull 10 or 12 republicans on board with him if he can sign off on a compromise with democrats. he has that kind of following inside the senate, at least on this issue. there are multiple bipartisan bills in the works to address a rising threat of china. in a bipartisan working group on immigration, the emergency at the border continues to gap headlines. whether deals can actually come together, again, we will see.
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on biden's infrastructure, senate republicans unveiled a framework for their counteroffer. it's a fraction of what the white house wants. it's vague on the pay force. republicans say it's a starting point for negotiations. the fact they call them a starting point is something democrats in some ways are taking them at their word, it appears the biden white house is now. let's listen. >> we see this as an offer that is on the table and deserves a response. i think we will get a response. we look forward to that. we are ready to get to work. >> we are noticing a difference. the white house did not engage with senate republicans when their opening offer on covid relief was a fraction of their plan. on this, officialsinfrastructur might be different. they will invite the republicans for a meeting. whether a deal comes together, let's say it again together, we
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will see. folks, at his first press -- presidential press conference president biden says he sees successful electoral politics as the art of the possible. we will see what is possible. starting with the president's first address to a joint session of congress. in a moment, i will talk to the number two democrat in the senate, dick durbin. but i will kick things off with leigh ann caldwell and peter alexander. leigh ann, i want to start with you. we are covering multiple fronts of potential deals being struck. they are small deals on immigration that are making their way through. they are talking on infrastructure. i want to focus on police reform. that seems to have the most momentum. is that a fair observation? >> reporter: i think that's a very fair observation. negotiations or discussions are
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ongoing. i caught up with karen bass. she met with house speaker nancy pelosi to give her an update of where things stand on her talks with republican senator tim scott and cory booker. she says that they are very close to moving into the next stage of negotiations where they are formalized. leadership is behind it. things seem to be different this year than last year, chuck, when the same exact negotiations were taking place. what's different this year is now democrats control all three -- you know, both branchs or both chambers in congress and the presidency. we're not close to an election. also senator tim scott is indicating some concessions on this idea of qualified immunity. he gave a counterproposal. that didn't happen last year.
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last year republicans did not want any changes on this idea of qualified immunity. now they are talking about it. not only the political ramification -- or the political circumstances are different, but the conversations and the discussions are actually different, too. >> on the other ones, obviously, i want to get to infrastructure. it's more on the biden side of things to see the receptivity there. the small working groups on immigration, we don't -- we know a big deal isn't possible there. are there some little bipartisan deals that might actually pass? >> reporter: there could be. it's very, very preliminary. these discussions are happening. bipartisan immigration working group had its second meeting in the capitol this week behind closed doors. the day after that, senator john cornyn of texas, border
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legislation was introduced. that is bipartisan. senator durbin, who you will speak to in a moment, can give you a better read on this. there seems to be more optimism coming from members of congress here. the fact that they are talk despite what's happening on the border. i also want to bring up something not really related but on a bipartisan level. they passed the covid hate crime bill yesterday with just one republican opposing, josh hawley, which that's another segment. the fact that they changed the legislation, incorporated republican changes and got nearly unanimous consent, that's a big bill that's eventually going to reach the president's desk. schumer was championing that saying, we can do things in a bipartisan way around here. i'm going to continue to show you that we can. i think that you are seeing an
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exhaustion up here on capitol hill of the bitterness, of the partisanship, especially the last four years, that people might want to get something done. >> it's an interesting -- you wonder, does this become a habit? leigh ann caldwell, thank you. let me move to peter alexander. peter, i want to get on two topics with you. the first one is, the infrastructure deal that republicans put on the table. they want a response. essentially, this is our opening bid. we will talk. obviously, the white house says, yeah, we want to talk. what does that mean? how should folks interpret that? is that, yeah, they want to have a meeting because they want to get caught trying, or maybe there's something here? >> reporter: you alluded to this in your introduction. you are exactly right. we are seeing significant differences in the way they handled covid relief in the first months of the presidency where he invited republicans in and still went it alone on that
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without any republican support. then we are on this issue of infrastructure. the president earlier this week hosting bipartisan lawmakers here at the white house. an official reminding me, we have had four such meetings on the topic of infrastructure. he was prepared to compromise. it's clear they are prepared to compromise. what that looks like is not as clear. certainly, the corporate tax rate right now, the discussion for the white house being they want it to go down to 21% from 28%. joe manchin said something in the middle. white house hasn't pushed back. they are open to these conversations. not just with manchin, obviously, but with republicans. the press secretary saying that they would welcome some of the republicans on the topic of infrastructure to come back to the white house to discuss it. this is, of course, part of this build back better plan. it's a lot of money, trillions of dollars having been spent on covid, trillions more on this effort, not just as it relates to jobs and infrastructure, but to families. it deals with education and
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childcare. on that, the pay comes from the wealthiest of americans. while the white house is expected to detail it more actually next week, the chief of staff has given us insight. the top tax rate would go closer to 40% for the wealthiest americans. >> it's interesting on that, peter, i'm curious to see -- they would need all democratic support. you have a handful of democrats who have balked at the fact that the salt deduction was eliminated for certain income levels. how do those same democrats, who are fighting to get a tax break back from these wealthier suburban voters, how are they supposed to sell the next round of tax hikes the white house is proposing? >> reporter: you are right. it's in some of the states like california and in new york where the wealthiest folks in those states could be paying upwards of 50% in their combined state
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and federal taxes going forward with the biden administration, the president proposing this capital gains rate would go up above 40% for those wealthiest americans as well. that's going to be one of the pressure points. it appears this is a place where they are willing to move the numbers and some of the close to the white house are indicating when the numbers get that high it doesn't provide the same benefit. there's a lot of ground they believe they can work in. >> peter alexander at the white house. thank you. joining me now, i think everybody has previewed this interview, is the number two democrats in the u.s. senate, dick durbin. i want to start with how -- with the green chutes of bipartisanship we saw this week, but specifically sort of how it came together to deal with covid hate crimes. you tell me this, senator durbin. do you think the threat that democrats could be united in ee
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eliminating the filibuster motivated them to work on it? >> yes. i think they have been saying, don't kill the filibuster. it's an important part of the senate. we have been saying back to them, then just prove to us that with the filibuster, we can do something. that created an environment positive for the hate crimes bill. >> you have been the person that a lot of people have ascribed the optimism on various immigration -- smaller immigration bills. comprehensive thing we know how that went eight years ago. you have the bruises among others to prove it. what is possible do you think in this congress when it comes to the smaller -- there's some demands when it comes to improving the processing at the border. that's one thing we know. we know we have a labor shortage
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in the country. there's a lot of work visa things that people want to work out. what is the art of the possible on immigration this calendar year? >> chuck, let's look at what the house has sent us. the dream act to deal with temporary protected status individuals. the promise act, farm labor bill. it was a strong bipartisan vote in the house of representatives. there's a feeling among us that we have to come up with a reasonable approach to improving the situation on our southern border. those are starting points. when we sit -- even in a small group -- someone will say, what about a visa in terms of doctors who will serve in critical areas brought in from overseas? can we bring that in? i'm open. i want to bring in all that we can reasonably afford to bring in politically, still keeping the democrats together and bringing in at least ten republican votes. our meetings have been positive. they are scheduled for more in
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the future. i just feel good about where we are today. i think we can reach our goal. >> let me go to police reform. i want to play a clip from senator scott on the issue of finding a middle ground if one exists on the issue of qualified immunity. take a listen to senator scott. >> there is a way to put more of the onus of the burden on the department or the employer than on the employee. i think that could be a logical step forward and one that, as i have spoken with karen bass over the last several weeks, it's something that the democrats are quite receptive to. >> senator, i think my favorite phrase on capitol hill is, if you want to get to yes, you can get to yes.
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i guess that's the real question here. does everybody want to get to yes on this? is there a middle ground on qualified immunity, in your view? >> first, let me tell you our leader on the democratic side is cory booker. he is chairman of the crime subcommittee. he and senator scott and karen bass have been negotiating. i'm working with them. they are the leaders in this process. let me say -- add to this the obvious. what happens in minnesota sets the stage to do something, show we can be productive. we can deal in problems in law enforcement in a constructive way. i want to applaud tim scott. the words you hear from him were an indication that he is trying to reach that goal as well. i think we have a chance. there will be a follow-up meeting this week. i'm going to sit down with those that i mentioned earlier. i think we have a chance to put something together. >> on infrastructure, at this point i feel like there's a lot
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of ingredients on the table and perhaps you are not quite sure how you are going to make the meal. is it go it alone? is there a bipartisan component? is it all bipartisan? it seems to me the most realistic thing is, maybe you can come up with smaller bipartisan deals and you have to do something larger on your own. is that the most likely outcome when all is said and done with all of the various infrastructure proposals on the table? >> chuck, that's the right question. i don't think we know the answer at this moment. there's a proposal which is bricks and mortal, what you would expect in a classic infrastructure bill. what joe biden is talking about is a bill that infrastructure and looks at jobs. how can we have good paying jobs in america and make sure americans can fill those jobs? there are elements that are part of it. the traditional bricks and mortar might not include
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broadband. i believe it should. it's an element that's essential for education, health care and business growth. water projects, they will be considered next week. we are bringing in more and more things to this. we also look at the human element here. building a beautiful super highway for a subdivision into a place to work is great. but can that mother find a safe and affordable place to leave her children during the day so she can take that super highway to work and use that job to build a future for herself and her kids and family? we are looking at the job experience and say, let's make sure we make family infrastructure part of the conversation, too. >> let me ask you very quickly on -- there's been some pay fors that the biden -- the biden administration put out for part two of the plan that they will unveil next week in the speech to congress. we are hearing all sorts of various tax increase proposals, capital gains increase here,
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putting up the top tax rate for folks above a certain income threshold with $400,000 as the line of demarcation of nobody would get a tax hike there. i'm curious, is there -- where is your sensitivity line on the tax hikes here? should there be cleaner messaging on this? i would understand if the idea was, all income should be taxed the same, but it does look like the way it's rolled out, there's a lot of various tax increases. i'm thinking about suburban chicago residents. are you worried you could lose them as democratic party supporters due to some of the tax hike proposals? >> i think president biden's break line of $400,000 is going to keep most of those who live in the suburbs happy with the outcome. i will say this. i was in a meeting two years ago, almost two years to the day, when president trump walked into the meeting and made it
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clear he was all for an infrastructure bill but he wasn't for paying for it. he walked out. end of conversation. four years we had no infrastructure bill. there's a proposal. i think it's constructive. there's no pay for it included. we have to be real about this. if we're going to have a program that's successful, whether it's broad or narrow, it has to be paid for. i think that's what we are waiting for. i'm looking for the most progressive way we can pay for this, as important as it is, make certain we create good new jobs but not at the expense of working families. we want to help them get through the troublesome times we have had in the country. we want to give them a chance to have the income that gives their family a future. >> senator dick durbin, i tried to remember the last time we had an interview where we had so many different parts to talk about.
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all very substantive. welcome to the new congress. maybe we will have this -- maybe this becomes a habit. senator durbin, thanks. >> makes me want to go to work. thanks. appreciate it. >> there you go. all right. makes me want to cover you guys. very good. up next, we are waiting word on the announcement of a decision on the future of the johnson & johnson vaccine in this country. the cdc panel is meeting right now. we are following the latest developments. later, the ripple affect of the pandemic and its economic fallout is leaving many americans without food on the table. we have new reporting on the effort to fight food insecurity in this country. we'll be right back. ,000 feet. instead of burning our past for power, we can harness the energy of the tiny electron. we can create new ways to connect. rethinking how we communicate to be more inclusive than ever. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions,
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the use of the vaccine in the u.s. was paused nearly two weeks ago after a small number of people suffered dangerous blood clots. moments ago the cdc panel did reveal there are three more deaths to add to the total. the total of at least 15 possible cases of blood clots, more than double the cases that had been previously reported. seven of the patients are still hospitalized, four in intensive care. the european medicine advisory group has said that the benefits of the shot outweigh the risk. they did add a warning. all of this comes as the pace of vaccination is decreasing and health officials are trying to overcome vaccine hesitancy. let's bring in dr. patel, primary care physician, former white house director of health policy. do you think it's better or worse for vaccine hesitancy to resume the johnson & johnson vaccine? >> i think it's better. i think it's because right now people are saying, there's a pause, but when we try to
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explain that it's rare and they say, but there's a pause, so aren't they hiding something? i think resuming this but being transparent, as you mentioned the deaths and cases, and the fact there will be more cases unless we can try to eliminate risk factors for this, that will help hesitancy. i think overall though, we are hearing public comment right now right before i got on, you are hearing a lot of the public say, you should never have paused this, even with the deaths in cases. you should have worked to give warnings but never pause. i think resuming will help to decrease hesitancy. as i told you before, i think some of the damage has been done already. >> as we deal with this vaccine plateauing that we are at here, to me it sounds like the biden team is very nervous about this.
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i don't think -- the fact that essentially the government announced a financial incentive, is that where we are headed? we are saying, you can give people a paid day off to get the vaccine. that's one step away electric from saying, we will pay you to get the vaccine. >> that idea has been floated to pay people to get vaccinated. it was floated well before we even had vaccines because people were worried if we had a two-dose shot, we would have a drop-off with the second shot. we haven't seen that. we are getting to the point -- this is the first week where we have open spots everywhere that i have been working with vaccine distribution. you can walk in to many places. we still have about 30 to 40% of the population we are trying to get to. we do need to shift our allocation strategy. we are doing it on a per capita basis. we need do things like getting more vaccines into areas that actually do not have the uptake.
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then pair that with strategies that involve taking down some of the mass vaccination efforts, if that's the route we're going, and doing hand to arm combat in a sense that -- getting people's shots in arms. that might involve incentives that are cash based or to your point paid time off along with tax credits as the biden administration announced. >> when do we get to the point where you as a public health official think, we have to start giving vaccines overseas, because we have to improve the hemisphere, we have to improve the vaccination rates globally. we are sitting on too many. are we almost at that point? >> yeah, we are. we are here now. i would say the tension -- we need to keep because of what we have seen even before johnson & johnson's pause, these issues with the manufacturing facilities they contracted with, we need to prepare for the
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worst. that's why we have a strategic national stockpile for everything else, including vaccines. i think we can walk and chew gum at the same time so we can prepare to have backups in case our supply drops while we also help other countries. let me be clear. what's happening in india, they are the largest manufacturer for the entire world of everything related to drugs and devices. we need to probably help give them raw materials and raw goods so they can go ahead and make -- manufacture their own vaccines as well as other countries that also do need to have some of the assistance, not just in manufacturing but vaccines themselves. that's why you see continuing pressure to lift patent restrictions. it's never one solution. with policy, it's all of the above. materials, global manufacturing on board and some help on the ground with oxygen and basic supplies. >> the astrazeneca vaccine, if
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we restart johnson & johnson, do you expect that approval to speed up? >> i don't. here is why. i think astrazeneca has had issues very different from the issues that started before they even submitted data to other countries. they have had different issues with the methodology of their trials. there's been a lack of transparency. they had a press release about numbers and the nih and data safety monitoring board in a never before seen action said, no, that's not consistent with what we know. i think it could happen. nowhere near on the time frame we have seen with the other three manufacturers where they put in an emergency application and it's almost down to the clock, several weeks, and we see an emergency authorization. that's not going to happen as quickly with astrazeneca. >> very interesting. i'm glad i added that last question. that was new to me. that's for sure. dr. patel, as always, appreciate having you on and your expertise. >> thank you.
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today at 3:00 p.m. on msnbc, dr. fauci will speak about the johnson & johnson vaccine, covid variants and more. by then, we may know the answer on the johnson & johnson decision. i will show you something that caught my eye this new poll shows young people are more optimistic about the future than four years ago, particularly young people of color. astonishing numbers. 56% of americans under 30 are hopeful about the future of the country, compared to 31% in the fall of 2017. the hopefulness of young black americans jumped to 72% from a bleak 18% four years ago. a 54 point increase in optimism there among young african-americans. in 2013, 30% of young hispanics were hopeful. that percentage, it's nearly 70%.
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this week we are focusing on water security. it's not just climate change that's impacting access to water. our aging infrastructure systems are making clean, safe drinking water unreliable in many parts of the country. the problem is worse in the low income areas. making this an issue of environmental justice as well. we have reporting on one place where the taps went completely dry for weeks. >> reporter: this at least 545 municipalities across the country, there are cast iron pipes that are more than 100 years old. the aging infrastructure led to a point where a water main breaks somewhere in this country every two minutes. >> when you look at our communities like jackson, we are all struggling. we are trying to find available funding to put toward this infrastructure that continues to age. it doesn't get better. it gets worse.
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>> we need state and federal resources. our budgets are not sufficient to cover replacing an entire water system. >> reporter: investment in water infrastructure has fallen to state and local governments over the past few decades as costs to fix the systems continue to rise. for a city like jackson where nearly 30% of residents live in poverty, people can barely afford to pay their own water bills let alone increase taxes. >> you have been covering this issue in jackson. as you say the reality is that the next jackson is right around the corner. i guess the question i have, particularly with the jackson situation, is i felt there was a lot of finger pointing. it should be the state and city, then some say the feds. at the end of the day, well, instead of talking about it, why haven't we fixed it? it feels like we're standing around. >> right, chuck. that's what a lot of residents
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we spoke to in jackson are feeling. this is an issue that's been passed over, passed over, passed over by local officials, by the state government and by the federal government as well. they really do need a lot of funding to fix this. in reality, if you keep putting band-aids on a large problem, it's only going to get worse over time. you heard dr. williams, the public works director, say exactly that. the reality of the situation is that it's not just a jackson problem. our water infrastructure all over the country is hitting a breaking point everywhere. the last time there was a major rehaul creating new pipes and systems was 1945. most of the pipes, they can't last more than 75 years, more than 100 years. what you are seeing is not just happening in jackson but at the same time all of the systems are starting to fail. the reality is also, we talked about drinking water mostly in this piece, but sewage water as well. our waste water systems are crumbling.
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as we see this all over the country, there's a town in illinois, centerville, we should pay more attention to it. their water systems are more than 100 years old there. people are living with sewage water and sewage in their streets, in their backyards. this is physically crumbling before our eyes. >> how much is this -- you look at the situation in jackson. you have a statewide leadership is republican. you can't help but ask yourself, how much does that play a role? >> i heard that from residents. they very much know that they -- the population that's in jackson, it's predominantly black, predominantly poor. they are not voting republican down there. they are aware that despite the fact that they are sitting in the shadow of the state capital building, they are not the priority. they are not the governor's priority. it's very -- they are very aware of that. they are basically crying for help at this point.
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they have local leaders who they are pushing. the leaders are asking state leaders and they are asking federal leaders. it keeps getting pushed on. it's residents who are literally paying the costs. >> in an odd way, this is why there has been such -- why the idea of more infrastructure spending has support on all sides of the aisle. just do it. i think there's a sneaker company that says that. sometimes you want to say, guy, we got a water system, fix it. terrific reporting. thank you. see more of the reporting on the latest episode of "meet the press reports" on demand on peacock. before we take a break, execute the pun, but we have some out of this world pictures to show you. color me obsessed with all things space. spacex made history launching its third crew into space in less than a year.
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welcome back. tomorrow marks the 106th anniversary of the killing and deportation of hundreds of thousands of armenians at the hands of the ottoman empire in what is now modern day turkey. it has never been formally recognized by the united states as a genocide. officials indicate that president biden may take that historic step tomorrow. it's a big symbolic gesture in fulfillment of a promise he made to armenian-americans on the campaign trail. it's a decision that may have a negative impact on our strained relationship with a nato member, turkey. we explored the impact of this acknowledgement. david, let's tackle this from both sides. as an armenian, what does this
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mean to you? >> this is the day every year, april 24, tomorrow, on which armenians around the world remember the genocide, the terrible slaughter and suffering that occurred in 1915. for president biden to fulfill his campaign promise to affirm the historical reality of that i think will be important for armenians. i hope it will be a day when armenians and turks, too, can look forward and not just backward. can begin a process of reconciliation, acceptance. these two peoples, two countries need to find a way to live together. they live side by side but with closed borders. i have a hope, maybe naive, this could mark the beginning of a process of transition towards something more modern, more
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reasonable. >> pronouncements by the united states, sometimes when they happen, you look -- you say, well, why is that important? i guess explain why it is important and explain why it took us so long and how much of this has been just sort of the need to appease turkey for why we delayed this designation. >> so it's important, i think, for people everywhere to have the facts of their history, the moments of suffering acknowledged and affirmed. it's just something that's universal and human. this took so long because turkey just didn't want to accept it and exerted enormous pressure on the united states not to affirm it. president ronald reagan made a reference to the armenian
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genocide in larger proclamations about the holocaust in 1981. it's not as if the word has never been said before. congress last year voted by a very wide majority to affirm the fact of this genocide. turkey has been deeply unhappy about it, has used every lobbying effort to lean against congress and then lean against the administration. president erdogan indicated he will continue with that campaign. as somebody would like to see a modern turkey a partner for the u.s., we need a strong turkey in that part of the world. i hope that erdogan will be wiser and not cling to his version of the past and get on with it. >> it's interesting on erdogan. did the world misjudge him, or
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did he change? president obama and i think others thought erdogan was going to be the guy that brought turkey into the western world, i guess is one way to describe it. obviously, there's such a -- they are literally at the border of west and east. it has gone south with erdogan. is turkey still a democracy in your mind? >> it's a much more authoritarian state than it was. it represses journalists, human rights in general. it's still a democracy. it has elections. the elections are taken seriously. turkey was a place that i used to love to visit as a journalist. i covered turkey like i cover every part of the world, because it was a place where good things were happening. a couple of decades ago it was
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modernizing quickly. it had good economic management. erdogan was leading what looked like a moral and democratic country. then it began to turn the other way. erdogan became president. he assumed greater, more authoritarian powers. he seemed to join this parade of authoritarians, vladimir putin in russia, xi in china. it was unfortunate. it had back affects on the turkish economy, which has been in difficulty the last several years. i think your basic analysis is right. he was going to be the modernizer. obama saw him as the key to change in that part of the world. unfortunately, it didn't end up working that way. >> david, it's an historic, symbolic but historic moment.
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recovering economy, the financial struggles that have been caused by the pandemic are still not over. 42 million people, 42 million people, folks, are projected to face food insecurity this year. a slight decrease from the record highs of 2020 according to a recent analysis. before the pandemic hit, food insecurity was at a more than 20-year low. ellison barber is in atlanta for us where the community bank is holding a massive food drive. they say they're still seeing a major influx of families needing that food. tell us where you are too for this. >> reporter: chuck, we're in henry county. part of why this mass food distribution site event is taking place is because the atlanta community food bank says they started to realize, other smaller food banks, they're resources were taxed and having trouble getting enough food to people who needed it. they decided to put these big
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sites that can serve up to 2,000 households in a couple different pockets. this is in henry county, not too far outside of atlanta. a little farther from the metro area because they thought they could reach as many people possible right here. listen here. >> i think the misconception has always been there, prior to the pandemic, is that its specific types of people who need assistance. a lot of times what we found, now with the pandemic, is that it's anybody, it's somebody who may have had a full time job and have had hours cut. and so they're now working half of what they normally would have done. and so suddenly they've had an impact to their budget and their ability to serve and provide for their family. >> reporter: you can tell a little with the empty pallets moving some leftover boxes here. they're wrapping up now. cars were lined up for hours waiting to get inside. again, they had enough food to feed 2,000 households. when we talked to the people who
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work with atlanta community food bank, they said that they have seen the demand, the need for food increase just exponentially throughout the pandemic. they say their food distributions are up by 50% since the pandemic and that's not just one month, not one peak, they have consistently seen that need every single month since march of 2020. in the 29 counties that they focus on working with, food insecurity has increased by over 30% among children, that is one in five children that this food bank helps. chuck? >> at this atlanta area food distribution event, ellison, thank you. when you want to help with food banks, some of them want food -- want you to bring food. but if they do, look at the list that they're asking for. don't just bring any food. many of these food banks prefer
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