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>> that is tonight's last word, at the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. >> good evening once again, day 93 of the biden administration. today saw increasing demands for an overhaul of policing in our country. the emotional issue brought into clear focus on this day during a funeral for a young man killed by police. less than two days after the palpable relief felt over the guilty verdict in the chauvin trial, the minneapolis area in mourning again as the family of daunte wright held his memorial service. the 20-year-old father of a two year old shot and killed by a police officer during a traffic stop 11 days ago now. the officer who killed him claims that she wanted to use her taser instead of her glock sidearm. she is now facing charges of second degree manslaughter.
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this afternoon, right was eulogized at a church in minneapolis. >> i would never imagine that will be standing here, and the rules will be completely reversed. my son should be varying. may >> they said they were air fresheners in the back of this car. we come today as the air fresheners for minnesota. we are trying to get the stench of police brutality out of the atmosphere. we are trying to get the stench of racism out of the atmosphere. >> true justice is not done as long as having expired tags means losing your life during a traffic stop. true justice is not done as long as a chokehold and knee on the neck or a no knock warrant is considered legitimate policing. true justice is not done as long as black americans are killed by law enforcement at more than twice the rate of white americans.
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>> many of the speakers today called on congress to pass police reform act named after george floyd. as we mentioned, all this came less than 48 hours after the dramatic end of the chauvin case. earlier on this network, new yorker writer didn't mommy calm, describe the mood. there >> it was a whiplash. because it was a great deal of relief and jubilation, really at the guilty verdict that came down in the derek chauvin trial. and then just that quickly people were kind of whipped back into this grieving bowed. >> jelani cobb speaking with nicole wallace this afternoon asked for the guilty verdicts in the murder of george floyd. and ultimate juror who sat through every minute of the role in the verdict. the trials two alternates were excused before deliberations started. as is customary. but she said that she did agree
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with the jury's ultimate decision. >> i felt he was guilty. the prosecution made a really good strong argument. dr. tobin was the one that really did it for me. he explained everything that i understood it down to where he said that this is the moment where he lost his life. >> have you ever seen the nine and a half minutes of the video before? >> no. i had seen the video two or three times. but i did not see in its entirety. it was emotional. i think my eyes teared up a couple of times. so, especially seeing it from different angles, and things. >> while the white house has been focused on bringing change to policing today, the attention was also on fighting the effects of climate change on this earth day 2021. the president hosted a virtual climate summit with americas allies as well as our adversaries and committed the united states to slashing
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carbon emissions by half within the next nine years. biden also pointed out the extremely ambitious goal, part of the infrastructure bill, he is presently trying to get through congress. >> when people talk about climate, i think jobs. that's why i have approached a huge investment in american infrastructure and innovation. by maintaining those investments and putting these people to work, the united states sits out on the road to cut greenhouse gases in half, in half by the end of this decade. we really have no choice, we have to get this done. >> it bears noting, of course, all of this is a radical shift from a trump era as you may recall, biden's predecessor took our nation out of the paris climate accord not long after taking office. the current president will have to convince republicans, rather, to work with him on reaching his climate goals which will
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not be easy given the already existing resistance to biden's 2.3 trillion dollar jobs and infrastructure plan. today, republicans rolled out their own plan which is a lot smaller. spends a lot less money. 568 billion, a fraction of the biden proposal. this may only get a lot more contentious next week when biden introduces his american families plan during his first speech before a joint session of congress. hhe will get into possible proposals to help pay for all of it in our conversation just ahead. but with that let's bring in our lead off guests on this thursday night. pulitzer prize-winning senior washington correspondent for the washington post, general benny mcatee, three decorated combat veteran of vietnam, former battlefield commander in the persian gulf, cabinet member, former member of the national security council for retired as a four star general in the u.s. army. and we welcome to the broadcast
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kristen givens a veteran attorney of cases involving sexual abuse and importantly civil rights. good evening and welcome to you all. fill in the myths of all these national conversations, here comes policing and race in the biden administration as it takes its rightful place right now it seems a top their agenda. what pressure is the white house under to do something more than has already been proposed or discussed perhaps? >> well, brian, let's keep it on policing measures that have been proposed in passed the house last month, and they are not become law. yet that is because there is not agreement between the two parties and in the senate. those discussions are underway quietly, there is a republican senator, tim scott, a black man from south carolina who is having some quiet negotiations with democrats. democrats like cory booker, in
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new jersey, about finding some common ground here. what we've seen from the white house is that president biden has said that policing reform is at the top of his agenda. but he has not been quite as forceful as the pitch man for that effort as he has been on infrastructure in climate. changes trying to let this quiet diplomacy between republicans and democrats on capitol hill proceed for the next couple of days to see if they can find some common ground. but the reporting suggests, and my colleagues as a great story on this tonight at the washington post, that the president is going to make policing reform a key part of his speech when he addresses that joint session of congress next week and adds some more of his own muscle behind it. but clearly, there is public momentum behind doing something here. especially after this trial came to such an emotional conclusion a few days ago. >> general mcafee, i mostly want to talk to you about a foreign affairs. but let's start on things
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domestic. that is the intersection and similarities between your life's work and policing here in the united states. in your line of work, they call it rules of engagement. in urban combat they call it you know, trigger discipline. these are harsh terms for a harsh business. a lot of veterans come back and get jobs in domestic police departments here. and i know you well enough to know that you have had thoughts about this this week and i'm wondering with those are. >> well, you are right. i've had a lot of experiences as drug policy director dealing with law enforcement on the drug issue and other issues. clearly we have a crying need for a fresh look at criminal justice reform. that certainly includes law enforcement. officer selection, officer training, officer accountability. and we just got to do better.
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a substantial portion of the black community fears our law enforcement agencies. so, we have to change that. having said that, i tell people, it is easier for us to create an army ranger or a marine and 19-year-old young person and good physical condition, 90 days later we have got him. and part of the reason is we use almost unrestrained violence when required to overcome an enemy force. law enforcement, and i tell people, it takes five years of experience to create a good cop. and most of them, when you talk to them have never fired their weapon in their entire 20 or more years of service. so, it is much more difficult to be a law enforcement professional out there five or seven days a week at 2:00 in the morning trying to deal with a life and death situations. we have to do better.
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>> counselor, we come to you by way of welcoming you as well to the broadcast tonight. let's talk about the mickey a bright case in columbus ohio. as you know, the news of that came almost concurrently with the chauvin verdict. and yet, it is vastly different than any of these other cases that we have seen. how difficult is it in your line of work, given what you know about investigations, prosecutions, to decide what shootings are, to use the word, term of our care, justified, close quote. >> brian, thank you so much for your warm welcome. you know, any way that you look at that case, it is tragic. it is horrific. why? because we lost a teenager. a young life was lost here. you make a good point, brian, when you are talking about justification. when you are really talking about is the authorization of force. when police officers are
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allowed to use force. in this case, lethal force. they are permitted in most jurisdictions and in this jurisdiction to use lethal force in the protection of others. but i think it would be lost here, if we don't mention a fact that there are other circumstances that could come into play here. can mike high bryant still seek justice? and i think, obviously, we don't have all the facts in front of us. but it's been reported that she was in foster care who was supervising? it was the state, who had the heightens duty an obligation to make sure that the circumstances that ultimately rose were avoided. can we suggest us from macaya bryant? it may or may not result in federal prosecution of an officer, but it could result in civil liability against the foster care agency, the statement that they work the -- or any other entity that owed her a duty of care.
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>> phil rucker, back to you, your beat in the city. you cover violence of course, and visited our u.s. capital on one six. nancy pelosi appears to be making concessions on a commission on the one six. everything we learn about one six subsequently is average aggravating and not mitigating as time goes on. what is the chance that republicans are gonna come on board at the end of the day? >> well, brian, they have not come on board yet. with this idea of the 9/11 style commission that pelosi put forward in the pretty quick act of january 6th but there are discussions underway about trying to find some structure whereby republicans would agree to participate in and endorse this commission. and look, speaker pelosi believes is critical to have this for her investigation. the impeachment investigation was not a full investigation of
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what happened on january 6th. it wasn't a political investigation won by democrats in the house or the president, or former president trump's conduct, relating to january six but a full accounting what happens at the capitol and where the security shortfalls were, where intelligence may have missed in the run up to the attack, the siege at the capitol, that has not taken place. and pelosi and other leaders on capitol hill believe that it is incumbent on this government to see to it that, you know, all of that is thoroughly investigated to try to fortify the capital and prevent something like this from happening to our democracy in the future. >> and counselor back over to you i won't soon forget the words that he chosen his answer right before you, to talk about policing in this country given his experience around the world including, but not limited to, battlefields. so i'm guessing like he said
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about selection of candidates, training of officers, resonating with you, even if we get action out of congress, talk for moment about the job that remains. >> absolutely, brian, the training and the screening, early detection, i think it is important, but not just early detection of screaming these officers, but also continuing it, because it is a stressful job. if chauvin for example past any of the screening, either initially or later on, and they're off fiercely ineffective. but in addition to that there could be some community policing, they should have some investment in the community that they are investing even if they are not residents. there are other measures that policing can look into. there is also on the civil justice side, qualified immunity, on the criminal justice side, there is authorization of force, looking at that and making sure they are tight. making sure that using legal
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force against something that is merely escaping but not committing any harm would not be permissible use of force. but i think one of the issues that i think is very crucial in the training is that the doj will look into it, or the department of justice can look into screening, and can actually get into there, look at the data and make sure that there is not disproportionate policing or abusive conduct that is disproportionately affecting one race, one gender or anything like that. >> and general, finals you for the last working to prove we can walk and chew gum, a drastic change in subject, let's talk about ukraine, let's talk about mr. putin who let's not forget could not believe his good luck to find an american president who was willing to criticize nato, we can be atlantic alliance, the russians meddled to make brexit happened, trump was willing to agree to a u.s. military
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drawdown from germany, troops that have been there for a good number of decades for a reason, and now, with navalny reported to be near death in this country, with protesters outside his window in moscow. mass-ing troops in and around ukraine, video was posted today of the exercises they've been doing, yes the last report was they've had pulled back from the brink, talk about the dangers of ukraine and the fight there. talk about what putin is up to and up against. >> well, the russians have been confrontational to ukraine since 2015, putin is playing a very dangerous game, he pushed the army on their frontier. airborne forces, armor, artillery, he put 20 ships out in the black sea, in a confrontational mode. he's already seized crimea, he
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is conducting gray zone operations. and it is clearly a threat now. the threat could be so he can remain relevant, so he can divert attention from his domestic problems. we're ian adviser to mr. putin i would say do not cross the frontier, and have a surprise attack on the ukraine. it is impossible for me to visualize that the european union and nato, and the united states wouldn't respond. so he may be testing biden, he may be testing to european union in a sense of solidarity, but there is no way that the europeans with their history and world war ii are going to allow the seizure of another sovereign nation. they're already threatened poland. it's very serious. as they start to withdraw, the russian defense minister announced he was going to leave armor and artillery in place.
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so this threat is not yet over. but putin is playing a very dangerous game, he is a second world nation, with an economy less than that of california or italy. his armed forces are not capable of conducting a seizure of a sovereign state. he has his legislators threatening nuclear language, he's on the edge here. i think he needs to be more cautious. >> general, your words resonate as always and with that we are grateful to our big three tonight for starting us off. philip rucker, general barry r. mccaffrey, and kristen gibbons feden, thank you all. coming up for us as we approach our first break, the one thing, the entire u.s. senate voted for today, well except for josh hawley of course, will look at the measure that brought most everybody together. and later, turns out getting half of all americans
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with reporting that democrats are pushing to pass the george floyd legislation by may 25th, that of course would be the first anniversary of george floyd's death. back with us tonight to talk about all of this is, a sam stein, veteran journalist who is a white house journalist at political. and michael steele, former lieutenant government for the great state of maryland, he is also the host of the michael steele podcast. michael, i'd like to start with you. exactly the point we discussed at this very hour last night with britney packnett cutting him, people heard the chauvin verdict they have been on the fence about police reform saying, while that's done, we need not worry about it anymore. i've read you a quote from axios, senior democratic and republican aides would never let their bosses say so on the record, privately told axios the chauvin convictions have wait for it, less and pressure for change. they noted the aftermath of
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mass shootings, time and again, congress has failed to pass gun control legislation, and the conversation ultimately moves on until another terrible event occurs. michael, at this rate, their recurring ever of the day, what is the chance that we see anything substantial on this? >> well you better see something. the substantial nature will depend on how serious the leaders in the house and the senate are and certainly how much pressure comes from the streets of this country. but those staffers are speaking truth, and those members, their bosses who believe that this conviction has lessened the urgency, they realize of course on the day that the conviction was put on the street, when we heard that this man had been found guilty that another black teenager was killed, so what
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makes you think people are going to go, well that's done, and ignored what happened 20 minutes before the verdict was read? this sort of washington fog about events and the sort of wishing it away, and seemingly believing that because this act, which everybody was seriously concerned about has now been taken care of, that that takes care of police shootings. that solves the issues about policing in black communities and this idea of how you can reform this process, no it doesn't. it makes it more urgent and these members had better not think they could sleep on it because come next november, if they haven't done something, some of them, hopefully a lot of them, will be looking for a job. >> sam stein, walter mondale who we are remembering this week famously said at the democratic convection, ronald
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reagan is gonna raise your taxes, he won't tell you, i just did, and a lot of people tied his lack of success at the polls after that in part to that comment. it is part of the democratic playbook, if we can typify behavior to raise taxes on the wealthy, enter joe biden, today the notion of raising taxes on wealthy investors, the money would be earmarked for childcare and education. but the caveat is that joe biden needs the wealthy, the wealthy tend to like their money, and he needs the business community, business makes wall street go, and bear markets, you know, that's a problem. >> yeah, there is a lot of play here here is that biden did run on these platforms, they weren't hidden, he was going to raise the taxes on the wealthy, on corporation. and he was elected for it.
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if you look at the public opinion polling, when you pull those specific provisions, it's unfortunate during, the plan gets more popular when you tell people that is going to be paid with a hike in corporate tax. it's possible that the politics are dramatically different than they were in 1984, for instance. that being said, if you talk to any republican around town, they look at this as a potential opportunity, they want to hammer away at biden, they want to accuse him and reclaim the mantle that he's going to scuffled the economic growth of the trump era he raises taxes, whether on corporation or individual earners. i'm not sure how successful it's going to be because they are distracted, but also because you have groups like the chamber of congress right now which is undergoing its own metamorphosis, and coming out in favor [inaudible] it's possible that they are shifting dramatically and we're in a different position.
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biden certainly hope so, he's praying for it, republicans are not gonna sit around and not take advantage. but this is one of those issues that could define, as michael said, the policing could define 2020, this certainly will define 2020. >> gentlemen, lightning round i'm gonna give you 45 seconds each, don't make me come out there, michael steele, now that you're in the podcast business, you know exactly what 45 seconds is, will we see any kind of infrastructure legislation signed by the president in calendar year 2021? >> i think right now, you will. and i think the fact that you have tim scott, and other republicans out there that are leaning in that direction is a good sign for something to get done. it's not going to be what republicans have put on the table, it's not gonna be with the president put on the table, his two trillion, but it will be something and i think america will applaud it. >> look at you all, aware of
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how much 45 seconds is, sam, same thing for you. >> i have 45 seconds, right? >> yes. >> question is will they be a proposal? question is yes, there will be. i don't need the remaining 30 seconds, i yield the floor to you. >> he yield back his time. i'll take it. >> he yields back his time and i'm not gonna share it with the gentleman from the great state of maryland, i can thank you both enough, two great friends of this broadcast for good reasons as you just saw. look sam stein, michael steele, we'll do this again. coming up after this break, something unusual happened in the senate today and the person responsible for making it happen, above all others, senator mazie hirono of hawaii, standing by to talk with us after this. u after this
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crimes act sends a clear and unmistakable message of solidarity to the aapi community, in this moment would not be possible without the collective efforts of so many people, including of course, my republican colleagues. >> and then all too rare event these days, the united states senate overwhelmingly passed the covid-19 hate crimes act, to forcefully address the disturbing rise in anti-asian
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attacks the bill was introduced by the senator we just heard from, senator mazie hirono, first asian american woman to ever served in our united states senate. the vote, we should tell you, was 94 to 1, with republican senator, josh hawley of missouri, the lone no vote. we're happy to have us with us again tonight mazie hirono, she is author of the new book heart of fire, and immigrant daughter story, and we will get to that in one moment. senator, thank you very much for staying us after the day you've had. i had to stay up with the shooting and atlanta, there have been so many since, one day, six asian women gunned down for going to work. we all know the rhetoric surrounding covid-19 that we have lived through, what is your degree of certainty that joe biden will put pen to paper
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and signed the legislation as you intended it? >> i have a high degree of certainty because speaker pelosi put out a statement today, when they return in may that they intend to vote on the senate bill. so it is going to move pretty quickly, and of course, next month is asian pacific history month, so it is very appropriate. >>, let's talk about the one no photo he is not the important topic today, we should get to it, josh hawley, the insurrectionist, curious republican senator from missouri, why did he vote against this? >> i know he had some sort of reason, but i think josh hawley is not the one that i want to spend a lot of time on. he didn't want to stand with the api community incomplete --
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in condemning these acts. that is his choice. i hope there will be some repercussions for him. but we move along, you know the rest of us. >> he has asian american constituents in missouri that he himself will have to deal with, let's talk about this memoir. this tribute to your mother, i know the emotions surrounding this book coming out is compounded and our condolences by the fact that your mother is not here to read the story per se, but she lived long enough to call her daughter a united states senator, tell our viewers, the brief urgent of her life story, how she came to this country and just enough to make them want to buy the book and read the story. >> my mother was a very courage us risk taker who changed my
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life when she escaped from a horrible marriage to my father, who i never got to know. she put a lot of distance so we could have a chance at a better life, and that is her heart of fire. >> what do you want people to take away from the story of this woman who was power to get out of a bad situation? part of the new world she found, and chose, produced in the midst of our family united states senator. that is fairly significant in our country. >> it is a very unlikely tale i would say but as an immigrant, and she brought us to this country, she just worked very hard, and we had no social safety net, we didn't even know with that was, but i grew up watching my mother work hard in a very determined way to make a better life for us. it is truly the story of so
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many immigrants that have come to this country. i hope that what a lot of people get from this is her determination, her perseverance that her can do positive attitude had a lot to do with her life. i think she lived a really good life due to herself. i hope that she passed that fire to me, i believe she did. but it is an unlikely tale from me, who would've thought? >> who would've thought, but here you are along with senator representing the great state of hawaii in the u.s. senate where this was a great day, an important vote i know for you and we will see the legislation as it goes through the house under the guidance of speaker pelosi. once again, the new book from the senator is heart of fire, an immigrant daughter's story, senator from mazie hirono, the great state of hawaii. thank you and aloha, thank you
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trying to tap into that energy with the new initiative using celebrities and athletes in a campaign to combat covid vaccine hesitancy. back with us tonight is doctor vin gupta, a pulmonologist out of seattle who specializes in these types of illnesses, he's also on the faculty of the university of washington. doc, it's good to see you. what is your message to young people? what's your message to the vaccine hesitance and let me add one thing, life is about carrots and sticks, i guess these days syringes, carrots and sticks, can't the cdc say to young people, to the vaccine hesitant, get the shot, feel free to remove your mask in public? >> brian, let me lead by saying those some public health experts think a part of this group isn't reachable i disagree, i've had the pleasure
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of speaking to major league baseball clubs across the country, younger people, and all they needed to be listened to and heard, and maybe they'll say doc, does this vaccine cause issues with pregnancy? for example in the case of a baseball player, the last me that player. the last me three times, and i say no. does it cause ottoman disease? the answer is no. those are the common questions i get. when should i get the vaccine? should i get it? and the answers absolutely even if you have the infections with the virus just wait for it to stop. these are the questions that younger people are asking and instead of -- when i was speaking to 65 and older individuals i would say this vaccine is gonna keep you out of the hospital, that message is vital, brine, for this younger cohort, but i don't lead with it necessarily, i say what are your concerns,
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what are your questions less address those and then i talk about the unpredictability of the virus. i just cared for a 30 year old dan in arizona who had a rare complication from this virus, we could've predicted it, i cared for 18-year-olds who have stroked from covid, it's unpredictable, but i don't need with that, i lead with what are your concerns and so i do think these individuals are reachable. o thin these individuals ar reachable. understood that's a great communication of personal medicine. i want to read you something out of political, it's about the johnson & johnson vaccine and i'm not going to get you into trouble but i am going to ask you to comment on this. the chaos surrounding the j&j vaccine, has disappointed the biden team which ones argued, appropriately, that the company's one dose vaccine would be central to turning the tide of the pandemic. instead this is the tough part, the administration has concluded, that the company can not be counted on for any
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significant production. until it gets the greenlight from regulators, to resume a vaccination, indeed doctor. we were all talking about, this one and done vaccine. a hardier mix, required less specific handling, it was going to help in rural areas. it was going to help in urban areas. what is your opinion these days of the j&j shot? >> i'll tell you what i'm hearing brian, and this is from countless individuals across sectors, they're concerned about it. even if the fda tomorrow say it's safe and effective, and we know it's safe and effective, the vast majority of individuals, literally for everybody with the exception of a few, i don't know if that's how younger people view it necessarily. that's why i'm directly getting feedback on. i do think we need to feel like we just can't turn a switch on and say ok you're in line for the j&j vaccine, it's going to be a gradual rebuilding of
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confidence, it's going to set us back in some cases with utilizing that vaccine not towards progress, towards normalcy, we still expect around track here, but we need to build back that confidence brian. but yes i think we need to acknowledge in that it's going to take time. i take questions all the time from individuals about side effects, how real is it, and expected. we're going to want to be gentle with it. >> yeah both astronaut and j.j. have really taken in the chops, leading us to wonder if they have the pr teams on the payroll. certainly they could be heard from us some point. even while under consideration, by the cdc. so many questions, so little time, doctor gupta, suffice to say you thanks so much for always taking our questions. it's great to see, you thank you for your advice. coming up for us, we will continue our look at ongoing efforts to get more shots in arms. in this case, the tiny arms of
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state of michigan, has put a record number of children in the hospital. that has set off alarms in the public health world. we know the vaccine is key to curbing the spread, reducing severe illness, the problem is, vaccines are not yet officially available for those under 16 years of age. nbc news correspondent tom costello has our update tonight on our efforts to change that. >> at duke mid center this week's follow the blood work. the nine year old twins where the first in the country to receive the pfizer vaccine. part of a nationwide trial testing vaccine safety and efficacy and children between six months and 12 years. 12 to 16 year olds are in a separate trial. well severe covid related
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illness and death are low and children kids still account for 13% of all cases. 3.6 million so far. 88,000 cases last week alone, vaccinating kids say experts is critical to building herd immunity. the both the doctors duke felt responsibility to volunteer their own daughters for the trial. >> for us in specifically for this vaccine, where tens of thousands of adults had already been dosed, and we felt quite confident in the safety profile. >> in kansas city michael in joanna kelly enrolled two year old norah. >> we trust the science. we had the opportunity to sign up for this, and we talked it over, and we believe that this is an opportunity to keep our child safe. >> like similar trials involving the moderna vaccine, this doctor start low in the sullying crease the doctors dose. >> it's the goldilocks of
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blacks effect. finding the right dose, that produces robust immune response, with due east amount of side effects. >> for the gerardo girls, it's all about getting back to normal. >> i want to have sleep overs again. >> fortunately doctors say children generally tolerate the vaccine well, with a few side effects. the ultimate goal is to vaccinate every elementary school child in this country, by this time next year. >> tom costello, nbc news, washington. >> coming up for us, perhaps you remember, it took some getting used to, hearing american citizens getting trashed by an american president. our look back is coming up. >>g up >>
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just as a thought experiment wouldn't have been fascinating to have been in the room when they told trump that puerto ricans are american citizens? it would be great to know who told him and when, for instance was it before or after the traditional presidential throwing of the paper towels, to relieve victims who had just lost everything? just a review, hurricane maria hit puerto rico as a category four back in 2017, irma had just blown through two weeks earlier, maria was the knock out blow, it destroyed the power grid, fresh water systems were crippled, housing was crushed. neighborhoods destroyed, the best estimate of all storm related deaths was somewhere
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around 3000. trump famously visited in his crisis wind breaker, through those paper towels into the crowd and famously boasted about what a great job he did for puerto rico while he publicly trashed puerto rico. >> i hate to tell you, puerto rico, but you thrown our budget out of whack. puerto rico is very tough because of the fact that it is an island but it is also tough because as you know, it wasn't very poor shape before the hurricane's ever hit. it was in bankruptcy, it had no money, it was largely, you know, largely closed. i've taken better care of puerto rico than any man ever, than by any living human being. they don't know how to spend the money, and they're not spending it wisely. puerto rico has 91 billion dollars, and i understand, they don't like me, it's the most money we've ever given to anybody. that's puerto rico, and they don't like me. the complaint, they want more money, you have 91 billion. you really do, you have
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incompetent, grossly incompetent leadership at the top of puerto rico. the nerve of -- it is a horror show. corrupt and incompetent. thank you very much everybody. >> of course then there is the truth, puerto rico had its troubles, no doubt, but we later learned the president told mulvaney as budget director and his chief of staff that he did not want to penny going to puerto rico and instead wanted the storm relief money for florida and texas. and now, just today, now the trump crowd is gone, the inevitable reporting from the washington post, they reported that trump crowd through obstacles affecting 20 billion dollars in aid and more obstacles when the inspector general went to investigate what happened to the money. in fact, the biden administration just this week, unlock the final eight billion in aid that had been held up. in the meantime, puerto rico its population of 3 million people, american citizens all,
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may never be the same after the storm named maria, or the president named trump. that is our broadcast for this thursday night without thanks for being here with us on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. >> tonight on all in. >> united states is awaiting -- this is the decisive decade. >> white house goes big on climate tonight, the case for optimism about the biggest problem on the planet, then, congressman hakeem jeffries on the new democratic offered to became a -- one city has made big strides in reforming the police department. >> words can't even explain how i feel right now. you know, that was my son. >> plus, fixing the democratic system as the ho

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