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administration which finds itself part of a major movement to push for police reform, receiving renewed energy and impetus with help from the federal government, less than 24 hours after a jury convicted former officer derek chauvin of murdering george floyd. the feds are now scrutinizing the minneapolis police force which of course once employed chauvin, and the three other officers, let's not forget, who are awaiting trial in george floyd's murder. >> the justice department has opened a civil investigation to determine whether the minneapolis police department engages in a pattern of practice of unconstitutional, or unlawful, policing. yesterday's verdict in the state criminal trial does not address potentially systemic policing issue in minneapolis. good officers do not want to work in systems that allow bad
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practices. >> the investigation is gonna focus on whether the department engages in excessive force and discriminatory conduct, it will be led by the justice department civil rights division, as well as the justice department representative there the u.s. attorney's office in minnesota. this is on top of an already existing federal investigation into whether derek chauvin violated george floyd's civil rights, specifically. the new doj inquiry getting underway as chauvin awaits sentencing in minnesota's only maximum security prison for obvious reasons, he is being held apart from other inmates in the most secure unit there. he is reported to be held in isolation for 23 hours a day. meanwhile, another fatal police shooting has sparked more anger adding fuel to the controversy over use of force. shortly before yesterday's verdict was announced in the chauvin trial, a 16 year old,
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makhia bryant was shot and killed by a columbus, ohio, police officer who was responding to a 9-1-1 call. authorities say, officer nicholas fired as makhia bryant threatened to girls with a large knife. today, columbus police released more footage from the officers body camera and again here, a warning, the video is disturbing. >> what's going on? hey. get down. get down. >> you shot my baby. >> there is now an investigation underway and the officer who fired the four shots is on administrative leave, just this afternoon, the columbus mayor and police chief talked about yesterday shooting. >> we believe that transparency
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with the public is the utmost priority during this difficult time. bottom line, did makhia bryant i need to die esther day? how did we get here? this is a failing on part in our community. some are guilty, but all of us are responsible. >> it is a tragedy. there is no other way to say it. it is a 16-year-old girl. i am a father, her family is grieving regardless of the circumstances associated with it, especially the 16 year old girl died yesterday, i sure as hell wish it hadn't happened. >> also tonight a community and elizabeth city, north carolina demanding police accountability
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now, authorities say a deputy fair shot and killed a man named andrew brown while attempting to serve him with a warrant. brown's family is demanding police release footage from that deputies camera. the white house says, president biden will bring in policing and racial justice during his address to a joint session of congress next week. he has already made it clear he wants to see some sort of legislation and fast, now the pressures on congress to get something to his desk. >> he believes the bar for convicting officers as far to high, it needs to be changed. he is a strong supporter as he also conveyed passionately last night of the george floyd justice in policing act. the president doesn't believe that he alone can pull the george floyd act, policing act, across the finish line, that is going to be up to congress. >> with that let's bring in our lead off guest on this wednesday and i've, chief white
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house correspondent for the new york times, brittany packnett cunningham, an expert on race and matters of justice, she is these days host of under stress acted, and we welcome back veteran attorney ck hoffler, she ceo of the ck hoffler firm in atlanta dealing with wrongful death cases, civil rights, litigation, also happens to be president of the national bar association, the nation's oldest network of predominantly black judges and attorneys, and for that reason, counselor, i would like to begin with you. given your line of work, your scope of the history here, does the floyd verdict, did to floyd for ticked seem like a turning point at all to you? >> first of all, good evening, brian. yes, absolutely. the floyd verdict was a turning point, is a turning point in the history of this country
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because it really is a small victory as it relates to a door opening for police reform. this verdict that the jury spoke loud and clearly in rendering the t-shirt the verdict on all three counts, that was justice for the floyd family in this country because, after all, what we saw was nine minutes and 29 seconds of a police of this are, derek chauvin, killing, murdering, brutally, george floyd, and that just has to stop. that was a tipping point, it is the beginning of a broader discussion of how we must have police reform. the vice president and the president addressed this, members of congress are addressing this, as you know, the george floyd justice in policing act was introduced, put together, crafted primarily by the black caucus, the nba's part of the black caucus, and this is the most comprehensive
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and broad and effective proposed law that we have ever seen in this country, that would deal with all of the issues and all of the problems that we see in policing today. racial profiling, no knock warrants, qualified immunity, the cameras, no chokehold. if you look just historically, all the issues where there is excessive use of force in black and brown communities, if you did a list of all of the issues you would see that they are addressed in the george floyd justice in policing act, absolutely, it is a turning point and now the justice department is doing an investigation to look at abuse and excessive use of force in the minnesota police department, so without a question, that verdict has begun, or started, just as george floyd killing did, a whole series of events that are designed to make this country better in terms of policing reform. so it is a wonderful thing. >> okay peter baker, let's take
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what's ck hoffler said and apply to your beat and to politics. this is from political following the floyd verdict, nearly every democrat at every level issued statements, this is in congress, many of them heralding a step forward for racial justice. on the republican side, nearly the opposite was true -- few lawmakers saw a need to weigh in at all. peter, i don't need to tell you, it doesn't bode well for bipartisanship for the floyd act or for police reform at all. >> well, exactly, this has been a partisan issue since last summer since president trump decided to make the focus on the occasional violence, but sometimes tough violence that accompanied the peaceful protests after the george floyd murder rather than focusing on the conduct of police officers, rather than focusing on the grievances of many black americans who feel like they can't get fair treatment in the
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system today. and because that partisanship has so divided the country, the george floyd act has sat there for a year, nearly a year, basically, on past. now there is some talk that there could be a breakthrough, senator tim scott from south carolina, republican, has been in conversations with karen bass, the congresswoman from california who is the lead author of that proposed legislation, there is some discussion that they could come to some sort of middle ground. it is a challenge, it is chunks for president biden, because if he were to make the kind of concessions that he might need to make in order to get enough republican support to pass it, that might be quite frustrating or disappointed to his own supporters who expected him to take more expensive action, that's the conundrum that we see on so many issues, particularly sensitive on this one because obviously, the turmoil of last year was a key factor in his campaign last fall, and a key factor in his victory. >> and britney, we were thinking of you yesterday when
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the verdict came down and would i wouldn't give to see a graphic of your emotions over the past, say, 30 hours and four minutes since we learned the verdict, and i say that way because of course, there are two more controversial police involved shootings, killings, what does it do to your level of encouragement or discouragement? >> i'll be our list, as soon as the verdict was read i had a set of mixed emotion. the only gratitude i had, really, was on behalf of george floyd's family who got a modicum, hopefully, of closure yesterday. but we have to be very clear about what it took to get here. it required multiple eyewitnesses, a nine minute video, security camera footage from the convenience store, a global protest movement to get 12 jurors, one judge, and one
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attorney general to do the right thing, one time. as far as i'm concerned, i don't find the same level of encouragement as some others have had about with this means systemically. the choice was very clear here for the jurors, in my opinion. but we have to stay focused on the system. it is easy to allow derek chauvin to be cast as the exception to the rule, and as an aberration to policing, instead of a product of this environment. i have been beating this drum for a long time, for a reason. because, when we look at the numbers, even when there is the rare conviction like we saw this week, when we look at the numbers, they do not decline and those convictions do not serve as a deterrent. they did not serve as a deterrent just up the road in brooklyn center minnesota when daunte wright was killed, it didn't serve as a deterrent when makhia bryant was killed, or when the person was killed in elizabeth city, north carolina, just this evening. so we have to recognize that
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this has to remain a systemic question. and while people are necessarily putting pressure on congress we also have to remember that there are over 18,000 police departments across this country, your mayor, your city council people, your police chief and your police union are all having impact and making choices and decisions on what policing looks like in your community. so we have to make sure that we never let this system off the hook at the local, state and federal level. i am not satiated by single verdict and none of us should be. >> ck hoffler, britney speaks the truth and by her very specific argument, darnell of frazier is as much a hero of this case as anyone else because absent those harrowing and horrifying nine minutes 29 seconds, would any of this conversation be happening? ck hoffler, let me put it this way after freddy gray, the swept swooped in and took a
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good look around. what is the minneapolis police department about to have swooped down on them? >> i think there are about to have a reckoning, a day of reckoning, which is necessary, because again, this is not -- george floyd, i do agree, george floyd is one person who was killed, brutally murdered before our very own eyes. but the justice department has made a determination that they need to look if there is a pattern of practice. the local, efforts to the ministers, the church community, all the people in that community, many people who are fighting this fight for decades, reverent moss and others have been saying that this is a problem that predates, way predates, george floyd's murder. it is just that this case, for the first time that they've ever seen, there has been just a single act of justice.
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with the verdict. but that does not erase all of the other cases that have taken place, and there could be a pattern of practice. the minnesota police department is about to have a day of reckoning because civil rights lawyers from the department of justice and others will work with them to look and see what they have been doing and examine how they have been addressing black and brown people and others, whether using excessive use of force, with killings, and that is what needs to happen. this is just one police department. this is just the beginning. there still needs to be pressure and the passage of the george floyd justice in policing act so there is a federal standard that would go hand in hand with the efforts and investigating individual police departments. as today, it is minneapolis, minnesota, tomorrow could be elizabeth city, north carolina, tomorrow could be columbus, ohio, but it has to happen. >> and britney, let me bounce quickly to you.
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there are people in this country, some of them in elective office ready to say, well that's over, we have the floyd for the, the cop is clearly a murderer. do we really need to go broader on police reform? >> the answer is absolutely. and i would challenge does not go brought on police reform, but actually to go broader on full transformation of a system, and really getting down to public safety instead of policing. the system working is not derek chauvin going to jail, the system working would have been george floyd being alive. and until, and unless, all people in this country, especially mandala marginalized folks, black folks and indigenous people, are allowed to thrive, we still have work to do. i want to be fundamentally clear, the state should not be allowed to kill anyone. police officers should never be
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judged jury executioners, that is not the authority we have granted them. and because they continue to take advantage of that authority, we should withdraw it. >> peter baker, it would be malpractice to have you here as a former, even though this is a dramatic change of subject, former moscow bureau chief along with your wife susan glasser of the new yorker and not ask you about what may be a clear and present danger and urgent situation, people in the streets of moscow, navalny apparently near death. a very real situation that there could be military action and counter action in ukraine. how urgent is it to your veteran eyes? >> it's a volatile moment for sure. you have 100,000 russian troops massed or the ukrainian border, and then you have this domestic trouble at home. the two things may be related.
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one of putin's traditional playbook moves, when he gets some domestic trouble is to play the nationalist card. in effect, that's what he seems to be doing right now. he certainly did that in the speech he delivered today, his annual message, in which he talked about how the west had mistreated russia and how if they crossed the red line, russia would respond, quickly and fiercely. and that's, you know, pretty traditional rhetoric on his part. right now with 100,000 troops so near the ukrainian border it comes with a greater degree of volatility and danger. that is what president biden and the american government here and in the west in europe is worried about, is this for real, or is he trying to make a point? and so much is on the line here because if there were to be some kind of military action, nobody knows where it would stop. >> there is a lot on our plate
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tonight thank you to these three friends of the broadcast who handled it all so far, peter baker, brittany packnett cunningham, ck hoffler, our thanks for starting off our conversation tonight. our thanks for joining us as always. coming up for us, how our politics are intertwined in the challenge of policing the police. and later, anyone who wants a vaccine can now get a vaccine. so why doesn't it feel like we are winning the war, turning the tide, when does that happen? our medical expert is standing by to talk us through tonight, all of it as the 11th hour is just getting underway on this wednesday evening. evening. you barely know they're working. new febreze fade defy plug works differently. it's the first plug-in with built-in technology to digitally control how much scent is released to smell 1st day fresh for 50 days. it even tells you when it's ready to be refilled.
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protect but instead he killed an individual, who could've been with me today, home with his daughter, speaking to her and playing with her. she has to live without her
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father for the rest of her life. >> george floyd's brother, also wrote this in the washington post today and we quote. this is what justice feels like, gut wrenching relief, exhaustion. it's not sweet or satisfying. it's necessary, important, maybe even historic, but only with the passage of time will we know it's the guilty verdict in the trial of derek chauvin is the start of something that will truly change america and the experience of black americans. back with us again maybe our most quoted guest, eugene robinson, pulitzer prize -winning columnist out of the washington post and another guy we quote a fair amount it seems to me mike murthy, veteran -- at the university of southern california. cohost of the hacks on tap podcast which we hardly recommend around here. eugene, listening to him
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reading these words in your paper today reminds me, here's a guy, certainly not looking to become a national media figure, we know him because his brother was murdered and if you ask me, he has carried himself with enormous dignity, all of us have watched him. he seems so knowable, identifiable, likable and strong. having said that, the headline on your piece was that the chauvin verdict felt like a victory. that was 30 long hours ago. what are your feelings about it now? >> well, first of all, about him it has been fascinating and wonderful to watch him grow into the role that was thrust upon him, and to become as
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comfortable and eloquent as he is now in speaking not only for himself and not only for the family but for millions of african americans, and i'm very proud of how he has done that. you look back at the signpost of progress in our struggle against race. events that changed the course of that struggle, and you look at the killing of emmett till, for example, we knew at the time, people knew, that it was awful. i don't think people knew that 50, 60, 70 years later we would be looking back at that moment as such a turning point. and there have been other moments that looked more important at the time than they really were. so we don't know yet whether
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the killing, the murder, of george floyd and the conviction of derek chauvin will be that sort of watershed events that does change the course of our struggle against racism in this country. we can hope, we can hope that it is, and hope that it is a new beginning. but we will have to see. >> mike, chauvin is a killer. chauvin is a murderer. we can now say that on the air. chauvin haven't been convicted, though anyone watching that nine minute 29-second video kind of knew that before the jury ruling. so the thin blue line has its limits, mike. tell me there's a role for republicans in reform? >> i think there is.
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i believe there are turning point in american life, and i believe we just had one. we had fast fair, very aggressive proper justice. and the argument that we shouldn't get too excited about it is not like every time a boy scott tells the truth to get him more badge. it is true that we set a precedent that we have to continue, but it is a good thing. and it's one of those cultural inflection points, there is awareness now -- one of the things that impressed me the most is the blue line cracking a little bit, because most costs are good, and they know this was murder, and they're not in the murder business and so, you know, it was a different situation in the trial. and i think that is going to catch on. i'm an optimist about this, it's been too late coming in, there's a lot of work to be done. politically, it's going to come down to the political question of pragmatism forces cynicism. there is a bill, the bill
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includes some strengthening of criminal prosecution, give the justice department more power to go look at police departments that have been secretive in other things to assist and criminal prosecution. i think there is a chance to get that through the senate, tim scott, the republican senator who's doing the negotiating has a lot of leverage in the caucus. and karen bass on the democratic side is a good pragmatist to knows how to get a road bill done. the issue is that it includes a lot of civil things. lawsuits. that is trickier, money lawsuits. because we know it -- that is a real no go zone for the republicans who tend to be on the tort reform side, so if we keep it focused on tools to prosecute more efficiently criminal cops and be able to crack open bad police departments where the cultures out of control. maybe i'm an optimist, but i think a bill could make it through the senate between
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what's bass is willing to give up versus what tim scott can get done with his caucus. >> well thank you both for those two answers, both of these germans are gonna stay with us, i just have to fit in a break, when we come back, what else have the republicans been up to other than watching joe biden? joe biden? cheaper aerosols use artificial propellants. that's why febreze works differently. plus, it eliminates odors with a water-based formula and no dyes. for freshness you'll enjoy. hooh. that spin class was brutal. well you can try the buick's massaging seat. oohh yeah, that's nice. can i use apple carplay to put some music on? sure, it's wireless. pick something we all like. ok. hold on. what's your buick's wi-fi password? buickenvision2021. oh, you should pick something stronger. that's really predictable. that's a really tight spot. don't worry. i used to hate parallel parking. (all together) me too. hey. you really outdid yourself. yes, we did. the all-new buick envision.
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program, and want to label it infrastructure. without serious permitting reform mister president, it won't build back better. it will build back never. >> the guy manages a straight face most of the time, republicans are pushing back on every bit, every available morsel, of the presidents agenda, yet despite those efforts, biden's approval ratings remain high, eugene's newspaper puts it this way. for the better part of a year now, republicans have tried in largely failed to define joe biden, or even just to make people dislike him. and with his 100th day as president approaching, they're admitting as much. still with us, eugene robinson and rick murphy. maybe i should try print. hey mike, along those same lines, you would think republicans across the country would be exhausted after their voter suppression efforts.
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but no, that other newspaper the new york times reports this. republican legislatures in oklahoma and iowa have passed bills granting immunity to drivers whose vehicles straight can injure protesters, in public streets. mike that's a good look, imagine the branding opportunities there. >> well look, political stupidity tends to have unlimited energy. there are two things going on here, i'm with senator mcconnell, i think a lot of the two trillion dollar infrastructure, bill by the way that's half the cost of world war ii to the u.s. government in adjusted real dollars, a lot of it is very broadly defined infrastructure. there's only about a nickel on the dollar that the roads highways and bridges, and i'm for a trillion dollar infrastructure spending, there's good stuff in the bill, but what you saw from leader mcconnell was the attempt to start debating the details rather than the headline of infrastructure. in start looking -- there's only about 20 billion
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dollars in it for airports, if you've been to an airport lately, i think that maybe ought to be a bigger priority. as far as this cuckoo legislation. there's this thing going on where republican legislatures in state capitals, worried about their primaries like ever, the militant magma weighing which is not the whole party but it's what they worry about in primaries. they're starting to kind of create these problems. like with the voter bill in georgia, all this fraud, that we didn't have. that they are trying to solve with a blunt instrument for their base politics. now they're doing the same thing, although i will say, i am not for violent protesting, i'm a line order guy in that sort of, thing but do we need to codify it with a bunch of new laws pointed at a big conspiracy that it exists only in those websites and in the minds of that those voters. i don't think from a policy point of view, we do, and i think it's not good policy either. but we're really in a dumb phase right now. in the grassroots of the party in the state capitals. it's unfortunate. >> eugene, i have one for you
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that reminds me of the quote by jesse i'm brew, out when the state where mike is, politics is the mother's, money's is the mother's milk of politics. here's from your paper quote, corporations that pledged to cut off republican lawmakers who oppose certifying the presidential election, largely made good on their commitment, removing a key source of financial support for the party, but at least one third of those 147 republicans, nevertheless raised more campaign money compared with the same period in 2019. boosting their collections from individual donors, to make up the difference. eugene that is what reminded me of jesse henry. what's at work here? >> the republican party, is changing. in fact i would argue, it's hard to define it as strictly speaking a party right now. because it has that crazy magma weighing, it has more working
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class voters than they had before. and has donald trump, down there in mar-a-lago, trying to be puppet master. it's not in organized political party in the sense that we think of them. in one of the results of course, is one thing we can agree on in washington at least, is to just say no. to vote together in vote no, on whatever the democrats are trying to do. i don't think that's a winning even short term strategy. and i don't think the republican party will remain in the state for a terribly long. simply because our two parties are resilient. adaptable, institutions. and eventually, they find a way to reform themselves and to start co-hearing again, and
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making sense again. i think the republican party is a long way away from that. >> ok lightning around. 15 seconds each. don't make me come out there, here's the question first to mike then to eugene. does chris christie have a chance? >> a small one. he finished six on the new hampshire primary, i don't see a lot a rocket fuel. >> eugene? >> absolutely not, i don't see a future for him in today's party. if he waited for 12 years, maybe if you felt like doing it then, but not now. >> all right folks, that's a good night for all of new jersey, and the other 48, eugene robinson, mike murphy, two longtime friends of this broadcast for good reason. thank you gentlemen very much. we will do this again. coming up for us, first joe biden pledged, you remember, 100 million vaccinations in his first hundred days, then he went and ahead in double that
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school of medicine. we are so happy to have you here doctor. i'm going to read something you yourself tweeted, it's time to consider dropping outdoor mask mandates. evidence is strong, and low outdoor risk now. i may still wear them in large stationary crowds, in close proximity, but let me go from my run mask-less, mask in pocket, you speak for a lot of people, and though he has an odd bedside manner, i'm going to play this from rand paul, who made kind of the same points. we will discuss on the other side. >> if you want more people to get vaccinated, joe biden should go on national tv, take his mask off and burn it. light a torch to it and burn his mask, in say, i've had the vaccine unknown safe from this. if you get the vaccine you can get the vaccine to. vaccine you can get the vaccine to >> we're not condoning arson
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but doctor what you're saying and what he's saying do have common ground here, and in advertising they call it proof of performance. it is a reward. wouldn't it help vaccine hesitancy to give people a goal of, you know what's, when you're good, you can take your mask off in certain circumstances. >> brian, i never thought he and i would have anything in common, and we don't, we're not completely uncommon except for agreeing that vaccines are good move and we should get vaccinated because that is our way out of this. i think the trouble here is the cdc guidelines currently say that if you are -- you know, if you're indoors wear a mask and if you're outdoors wear a mask, particularly when you cannot maintain that six foot distance and you are spending a lot of time around other people. and what we've seen is that there is a complete variation
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across the country in terms of how outdoor masks are reinforced. massachusetts is requiring it all the time. what that does, and even before we got to the facts and we learned a lot about 90% of all of the infections are coming from the inpatients, what we're doing is that they are not equal, what we're ignoring is that we are opening up the capacity and letting people walk in and letting people taking off their masks and that is still bringing the cases up. what we should be looking at is not whether or not we should stop wearing masks outdoor but whether mask mandate should go down, and there should be clearer steps from cdc as more people get vaccinated as when such a mandate for outdoor should come up, particularly
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before the indoor mask mandate, that is the difference. but i think all of us are saying vaccines are good, let's get to the other side of it because it means that we can all be safe. >> doctor, i also have to ask you about something personal for you, but i'm asking because of the lesson for the world and that is the public health disaster, slow rolling crisis we're watching in india. 300,000 new cases a day, or thereabouts, patients to tua bed in hospitals where you can find a bed. skyrocketing death rate, what's is the lesson here, beyond the human tragedy we're watching? >> thanks brian for saying that. i think we've all experienced laws during this pandemic. in the last year i lost and and and another one of my answers
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currently sick with covid in india. what you're seeing is one story amidst a lot of other stories, where you're seeing a public health disaster that is a confluence of really just restrictions coming down, large gatherings occurring. you're seeing vaccines uptake not being as high as they should be. and potentially a small role of the new variance that we think could be more transmissible. the big goal here is that in that situation, to do what's new delhi, one of the big cities that is really suffering from overloaded hospital is doing is locking down, and pushing on getting more people vaccinated. between now and then, i think india, and brazil is another place, needs humanitarian assistance. what's going on over there is beyond imaginable as a tragedy right now. doctor, i'm sorry to raise that and i'm sorry for your loss, it is so important that we keep our eyes on it and of course
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place, just tonight syria and israel appeared to have traded missile strikes and after a decade of civil war in syria, at least 400,000 syrians have been killed, that is a lowball estimate. millions more displaced the. conflict has left behind and disaster in syria's northern region. and now, poorly maintained oil fields are contaminating the surrounding territory. ahead of earth day tomorrow, we have this report tonight from
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nbc news chief foreign correspondent,. >> northern syria practically floats on oil, but instead of making to people rich, the oil is killing them. a decade of war has left oil facilities here in ruins, and created an environmental catastrophe. dozens of rivers and streams, now run block. the water is lifeless and injuring couple. and these are the children's playground. a village leader says the land is poison. we do not want oil, he says. the people in northern syria are close american allies, the kurds. their oil has long been their curse. when isis took over the, terry sees the oil facilities to fund their murder -- when president trump finished driving isis out, he wanted the oil to.
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>> we're keeping the oil, we have the oil, the oil is secure, we left troops behind only for the oil. >> but the oil pumps were never really secured. and men tamed, they spew day and night. unregulated, black market refineries pollute the air. many children work the sites. on says long, thyroid and skin cancers are rampant. every day we see for five new cases of cancers, just in my clinic he says. i spent years following the plight of the syrian kurds, they fought off isis with u.s. special forces. now, they're fighting what is beneath their feet, and losing. u.s. troops continue to patrol here looking for isis holdouts, but there are still no stability. and the environmental fallout from the toxic mix of war and oil means millions of syrian refugees will have a far less
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welcoming homeland to return to. >> the u.s. military did not respond to our request for comment, they are clearly no plans to clean up the oil contamination, and any clean up, because of the ongoing conflict will be extraordinarily difficult and expensive this is just a glimpse of the environmental degradation in syria. brian? >> thanks to richard engel, for that report. it hardly gets more depressive than that, on this eve of birthday, which now begins minutes from now. coming up, a funny thing happened at a senate hearing this week, when one of the scholars of the senate got schooled himself. schooled himself shield that's proven to keep killing bacteria for 24 hours. touch after touch. microban 24 last thing before we go tonight
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let's talk about a guy senator john no relation, kennedy of the great state of louisiana. he is the one who likes to play
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the role of the country lawyer, maybe even the beloved small town barber or general store manager. it is a down home persona that masks a first class education at vanderbilt, oxford, uva law school, magna come allowed a undergrad, law review executive, you get the rest, all that scholarly stuff. at senate hearings he goes big on the down home phrase all edgy and cute aphorisms with witnesses he likes to play the role of i am just a guy from louisiana asking questions. but at a hearing this week he might have met his match when he asked stacey abrams if she knew what was in that georgia voter suppression law. >> you're against the georgia bill, i gather, is that right? >> i am against certain provisions of it. >> i think you called it a racist bill, am i right?
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>> i think the provisions of it are racist yes. >> tell me specifically, just give me a list of the provisions that you object to. >> object to the provisions that remove access to the right to vote, that short of the federal runoff from nine weeks to four weeks, restrict the time that they can request our absentee ballot -- >> slow down for me. our audio is not real good. what else? >> it bans nearly all, out of precinct votes -- >> bands? what >> out -- bands olive out of precinct votes, meaning that if you get two precinct and you are in line for four hours and you get to the end of the line and you are not there between 5 and 7 pm, you have to start all over again. >> is that everything? >> no it is not. no sir. it restricts the hours of operations because we, now under the guise of system
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setting a standardized but ours, -- they can now limit their hours, instead of those hours being from 7 to 7, there are now from 9 to 5, which may have an effect of voters who cannot vote during business hours. during early voting. it limits, i get the idea. magnate come loudly graduate, atheist, truman scholar yale law school offering a primer on the georgia's approach jim lot, to senator john no relation kennedy to take us off the air tonight. that is our broadcast with this wednesday, for our thanks for being with us on behalf of all of our colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. networks of nbc news goodnight.
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tonight on all in. >> yesterday's verdict in this state criminal trial does not address, potentially systemic policing issues in minneapolis. one day after the murder verdict, the push for reform grows. >> we still have work to do. >> tonight how derek chauvin got more justice than any american overdoes. in the renewed push for big change, with senator cory booker and congresswoman cory bush. and senator republicans confront reality, by way of stacey abrams. >> i think you've called it a racist bill? am i right? >> i think there are provisions of it that are racist, yes. >> plus ben rhodes on what our president can do about the russian president. as protesters swarmed the streets for alexei navalny. and steve kornacki in his big core breakdown where we are after 200 million shots, in 92 days. in where there's work to be done. it


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