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a verdict in the murder trial of former officer derek chauvin could come this week. closing arguments are set to begin today. the prosecution and defense will make their final cases to the jury before it is sequestered for deliberations. and russian officials said overnight that alexi navalny has been transferred to a hospital. the top putin critic is believed to develop kidney and heart problems to go along with back pain and numbness in his legs. the u.s. is saying that would be a bad idea to let him die. we'll be following that. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. hi, there, i'm stephanie ruhle live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. it is monday, april 19th, and we start with breaking news out of minneapolis, minnesota. we are just one hour away from the start of closing arguments
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in the murder trial of former police officer derek chauvin. one of the most closely watched trials in decades. the prosecution looking for a conviction on charges of manslaughter and murder in the death of george floyd. the defense trying to convince jurors that there are just enough question marks about floyd's death to let derek chauvin off the hook. it is possible the jury can get this case before the end of today. and if you had any question about how the twin cities are feeling right now, take a look at the front pages, people there are nervous, anxious, and bracing for the verdict just like the rest of the country. i want to start with nbc's shaquille brewster, who's been in minneapolis since this trial began. also with us former prosecutor gwen kirschner. shaq, how are things supposed to start out? >> there are a few things picking up. we will have the closing
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arguments, and we will hear from both sides. the prosecution and eric nelson for the defense and a rebuttal from jerry blackwell. they will make that emotional case. we can expect to hear the video and the timeline and defense's arguments that they believe george floyd died from medical conditions and a drug overdose. but in addition to the closing arguments, we're also going to hear those jury instructions. this is key, stephanie. most of this took place, the arguments between the defense and prosecution and judge, this took place behind closed doors. there was some arguing about this in open court. but these instructions are what the law is and how jurors should apply the law when they begin their deliberations. as you mentioned, deliberations can start by this afternoon. the jury will be sequestered. 12 jurors deliberating after 14 heard 3 weeks of testimony. two will be dismissed and they will be sequestered throughout this process. the judge told them to come to
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court today with a bag packed. he said they should hope for short but prepare for the long. we will expect a lot of things to happen today and a lot of things as we watch the closing arguments start in this next hour. >> the defense has one last shot at the jury here. how should they use it? >> the prosecution will set out an overarching closing statement. they will survey all of the evidence from the video to the bystanders who narrated the video in realtime to the use of force, experts from the minneapolis police department to the medical experts and it was such a broad array of medical experts. this was an expertly tried case in my opinion by the prosecution. the defense, if they're smart, i think should just hone in on the cause of death because we all saw the use of force with our own eyes and it was excessive and that was bolstered by the top brass of the minneapolis police department telling the
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jury it violated their own use-of-force policies. but what we can see with you are 0 own eyes, steph, what was going on inside george floyd's body. what were the medical implications of the force that was being applied to george floyd by these police officers. so i think that's why the defense should hone in on the cause of death, even though they have an uphill battle in that argument. >> go back to before the trial started, compare what play you thought was going to play out and what unfolded. >> i have done a lot of murder trials. what we do on the medical front is present the testimony of one medical pathologist, that is the medical examiner who performed the autopsy, who has a first firsthand impression and opinion on the cause of death. so what i was really surprised by the breadth of experts,
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toxicologist, multiple forensic pathologists. that surprised me. and what equally surprised me is how poorly the defense met the force of that compelling medical testimony with only one forensic pathologist, dr. david fowler. and i think his testimony fell flat. when they had to reach for something as frivolous, quite frankly, as carbon monoxide poisoning. that was a tell they really didn't have a strong argument on the medical front. >> many people have said policing is on trial here but we need to remember that a huge part of this case was chauvin's own police chief and other officers testifying against him. how important is that for someone like you in law enforcement to have people understand that not all cops are like derek chauvin and not all policing is on trial? >> that's absolutely important, stephanie. and you're absolutely right.
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the police department, several people came forward giving the chief of police to denounce the actions of former officer derek chauvin. it is incredibly important that people remember that so many people in uniform are working really hard every day. it seems like policing here, every day is a new low but there's a lot of officers working hard. they came forward and came forward in force to talk about an excess of force of former officer derek chauvin. i also would say police everywhere were watching as he very smuggly declined to testify on his own behalf. we all question the snarky look as he said he wasn't coming forward to testify. and we certainly are hoping justice is served today. >> chief, we know police reform
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is real and it's really happening. more than 40 states passed 100 new oversight laws since the death of george floyd. how much does the outcome of this case matter in terms of overall police reform? >> it certainly will have an impact because everybody is watching. the world is watching this case. the outcome of what the juries see, they will be listening intently on the jury instructions today. so i think it's going to have a definite impact how we see policing. all of the reforms and laws that have been implemented are incredibly important. i think we can all recognize we need changes in reform across the board. but this case really represents in many ways because it's so resonating that excessive force and watching george floyd essentially being killed in front of all of us, it's going to be incredibly important. >> glenn, your crystal ball carries a lot more weight than mine does. your prediction for the verdict? >> giving the compelling case the prosecution presented, i can't imagine this is anything
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but a guilty verdict and i think it ought to be guilty on all counts because when we assess the evidence that was introduced, it satisfies the elements of all three of these crimes. steph, it only takes one juror to hang a jury. i've had plenty 11-1 hung juries. if there's one juror who maybe has their own reason, their own biases, their own prejudices, and they let that trol rather than the evidence in the case control, then we could be looking at a challenge. >> shaq, i don't mean to put you on the spot but i have been dyeing to ask you, you've watched every minute of this case, lived it much more deeply than the rest of us. you've been outside of that courthouse every day. what are your thoughts, your feelings as we come to the end of this? >> stephanie, i'm really just concerned and questioning which witnesses the prosecution highlights and chooses to highlight in their closing arguments. we saw a lot of compelling testimony.
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you heard from very compelling people, not only bystanders pleading with the officers to get off of george floyd, we heard from the use-of-force sector and police chief and compelling medical witnesses. it's interesting to me which witnesses will be the focus of the prosecution. outside of the courtroom, stephanie, more to underscore how high aleft the situation is, how tense things are. not only barbed wire and fencing behind me but we and have the seen a deployment this high of the minnesota national guard since right after george floyd was initially killed. how the community will be reacting to this week, this trial that has been visible for the past three weeks, how they react to the actual conclusion of it, it's interesting to just see how things people react to the ultimate conclusion that we will likely see at some point in week, stephanie. >> shaquille brewster, glenn kirschner, chief best, thank you all so much. busy day in minneapolis. and in indianapolis, another busy morning and a lot of
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difficult questions after the mass shootings at a fedex facility that happened late last week. they're trying to figure out why on earth after being flagged by police and weapons seize ready, the suspect was able to legally go ahead and purchase more guns. all eight victims of thursday's shootings have been identified. half were members of the sikh community. kathy park joins us now from indianapolis. kathy, what's the latest? >> steph, good morning to you. officials say the suspect cleared a background check before purchasing two adult rifles linked to this attack. and this morning victims' families are not only grieving their loved ones, they're demanding answers. this morning as the country reels from yet another mass shooting, many looking for answers on what, if anything, will be done. the indianapolis shooting at a fedex facility leaving eight people dead followed a series of high-profile tragedies,
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including at a cabinet warehouse in bryan, texas, earlier this month, a business complex april 1st that left in our people dead, at a grocery store in boulder, colorado and string of killing at spas in atlanta earlier this month. >> it's a national embarrassment. >> reporter: authorities in indianapolis are focused on brandon scott hole. police say the 19-year-old who used to work at the fedex warehouse and took his life during the attack used two assault rifles purchased legally last summer. months early police confiscated a shotgun from hole after his mother raised concerns about his mental state. indiana's red-flag law allows police reports to seize guns from people deemed a danger. but authorities say hole was not submitted to be flagged. the biden administration is urging states to adopt and reform those red flag laws. part of the number of measures biden introduced after the colorado shooting, but the actions were limited. democrats are pushing for more, including an adult weapons ban.
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but gun control is usually gridlocked in washington, with some republicans arguing second amendment rights need to be protected. >> every time there's a shooting, we play this ridiculous theater. >> reporter: back in indianapolis, vigils for eight lives as yet another community looks for answers. and the suspect's family broke their silence this weekend, which reads, in part, we are devastated at the loss of life caused as a result of brandon's actions. we tried to get him the help he needed. meanwhile, four of the eight shooting victims, members of the local sikh community, and i was told some family members in india are actually making travel arrangements to bury their loved ones here. steph? >> we cannot forget those eight victims, eight lives senselessly lost. kathy park, thank you. for you at home, don't go anywhere. coming up, closing arguments in the chauvin trial now less than
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now to the latest on the coronavirus pandemic. today is president biden's deadline for all states to open up vaccines to everyone ages 16 and older. as of this morning, the cdc says half of all american adults have received at least one covid-19 vaccine dose. the biden administration is expecting a decision this week on the johnson & johnson vaccine. it's currently paused over rare blood clot concerns. >> my estimate is we will continue to use it in some form. i doubt very serious if they just cancel it. i don't think that's going to happen. i do think there will likely be some sort of warning or
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restriction or risk assessment. i don't think it's just going to go back and say okay, everything is fine, go right back. i think it will likely say okay, we're going to use it but be careful under these certain circumstances. it is not just michigan seeing a big increase in covid-19 cases. the state of pennsylvania also seeing more infections. we have our team of reporters following the latest developments across the country. let's go right to pennsylvania, where lindsey reiser is standing by. a county where you are seeing a 40% rise in infections. can you explain why this is? are there a whole lot of younger people that have not been eligible now getting it? >> yes, stephanie, county officials tell me they believe the reason for the increase is people are tired of mitigation measures. they don't want to wear masks anymore. but what we are seeing in lebanon county is indicative across the state. they recorded upwards of 5,000
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cases, numbers they have not seen since the colder month of february. hospitalizations are up and deaths as well. they are sounding the alarm and want people to get vaccinated. in terms of vaccinations, they're doing pretty well. 41% of residents have gotten at least one dose of vaccination, ranking tenth in the nation. but they're dealing with vaccine he's tennessee now. in the beginning demand was outpacing supply but that's not what we are seeing anywhere. in lebanon county they have a mass vaccination site, be on friday 1,200 appointments available. 800 went unfilled. and this is why the director of emergency services talked to me about how he felt about that. >> it is a bit deflating because this has been what we've been working towards for quite some time. this was the light at the end of the tunnel. and the acceptance is not as broad as what we hoped it would
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be. >> so they are fighting misinformation here. only about 31% of the lebanon county residents have gotten that first shot. that is lower than the state average and lower than the national average. these county officials tell me they're trying to get the word out on social media. just word now here in some small community fighting that misinformation as well. they don't want to reimpose any kind of restrictions here, stephanie. >> fighting misinformation about a life-saving vaccine. i want to turn to sam brock at miami dads college's north campus. sam, this is very big. everyone 16 and up can get this vaccine. is this a game-changer where you are? college campuses is where we have seen these spikes. they have not been eligible. >> certainly we've seen younger people in the state of florida, stephanie, spreading the virus at higher rates as well. yes, this absolutely is a game changer. it's notable though here in florida they've opened it to 16 and old are for everybody since april 5th. it's a handful of states that were coming online today, steph,
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to open it up to everyone across the country. big news there. vaccination is also something we're watching closely here in the south. in florida where i am, the rates have become strong, 60,000 administered doses per 100,000 people but that is not the case uniformly throughout the south. states like mississippi and louisiana have struggled. louisiana is an interesting case study. i was just in new orleans. new orleans is doing fantastically at the moment. they vaccinated close to 30% of their population fully compared to only 25% for the rest of the country. throughout rural louisiana, numbers are really lagging and it's notable new orioles went through a period, steph, where it had the highest covid infection rate in the world anywhere last march for a two-week period. i spoke with dr. jeffrey elder from mc health in new orleans and he described the experience the rest of the state is receiving with covid. take a listen. >> other parts of the state such a surge, including us, over the
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summer last year and into the holidays, november, december, january. we've done a lot better. but those numbers can come back. if we don't do all of the right things and get everybody vaccinated, we will see additional surges. we just want people to know we know how bad it gets, we don't need to be there again. we can protect ourselves by getting vaccinated. >> steph, i would point out another crucial component of all of this is children. the u.s. population under the age of 18 is about 23%, 24% of people. we will get to herd immunity 84%. it means vaccinating a significant number of children. dr. fauci saying on "meet the press" this past weekend he expects high school students to be hopefully eligible for the vaccine some time before fall. >> i sure hope so too. we have to bring in an expert on this. dr. peter hotez, codeveloper for the vaccine development at texas children's hospital. doctor, i want to go back to something lindsey said a moment ago where officials in lebanon county, pa are seeing a spike
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because people are tired of mitigation measures and don't want to wear masks anymore. are these people getting sick and tired of wearing masks, are they vaccinated? if they're not vaccinated and choosing to wear a mask and getting sick, isn't that their own doing? >> you know, you've partly hit on it. this is the perfect storm of another of things happening, stephanie. we've got the b.1.1.7 variant accelerating, which is more transmissible. we have this one from california accelerating and that's why it's easier to get sick because it's more transmissible, including younger people getting sick. that's problem number one. problem number two, you have this defiance of masks coming out of the conservative part of the country. and so wherever -- so that's a huge issue that people are still defiant of masks and now tragically they're defiant of vaccines. we have at least four news polls now, the most recent one from
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the pbs news hour but kaiser and one we did with texas a&m and a up couple others all pointing to the same thing, what's called white republicans are in defiance of vaccinations. that's a killer. we're still going to lose a lot of lives. remember, stephanie, we've only gotten a single dose into 40% of the country. sounds like a lot but we know with a highly transmissible virus like this, we have to double that. we have to do a lot better and we're not going to get there unless we can figure this out. >> those are the same people who are saying you're encroaching on my civil liberties trying to make me wear a mask. once the vaccine -- and we're getting close -- is truly available to all americans, then can't we say, if you don't want to get vaccinated, that's your choice but i no longer have to change my lifestyle. if you don't want to take the flu shot, dr. hotez, and i do every year, i don't actually care if you get sick. >> here's the problem, stephanie, partly with that, and that is that we -- if we're
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going to really get back to normalcy, and that means not requiring masks, going to 12r5u79s and bars and ball games and all of the things we like to do, it means that to halt virus transmission or dramatically contain and slow it, we know from this transmissibility from the variants now we have to reach 80% of the population. this is what's so self-defeating, the fact people want to be defiant of masks yet they don't want to get vaccinated in order to get us to that place. a lot of this is coming out of rhetoric from conservative websites and i'm sorry to say this, if you listen to the evening news fox anchors, it's pretty bad. you have tucker carlson going on on several anti-vaccine rants, laura ingraham target me and other scientists the last couple of weeks. so this is so self-defeating for the country. and we've got to figure out how to turn that around. >> millions of people watch
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that. what about the rest of the country? there's growing talk about masks not being needed outside anymore. israel just lifted their requirements. should we do the same? >> israel is in position, stephanie, because they figured out how to vaccinate the country and we haven't. we will get there, but not just with 40% of the population having a single dose. in terms of wearing masks outside, depends where you are. if you're out in the country in a rural area and not coming across a lot of people, yeah, i think that's probably okay but i will take a walk in the morning with my wife ann and it's a urban neighborhood and we're wearing masks because we know there's still a lot of transmission and pretty high number of people and high density of people. >> dr. hotez, thank you for joining me this morning. i appreciate you making us better and smarter and bringing us the much-needed truth. this morning, history in space. the first powered plane on another planet. nasa's helicopter ingenuity launched above mars. you see that spec on your
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screen, can you see that? that is the aircraft. it hovered for about 30 seconds and came back down safely, just like nasa was hoping. officials compared this to the wright brothers flight in 1903 because no flight has ever taken off like this on mars. nasa will be holding a press conference later today about all of this. coming up next, we're just about 30 minutes away from closing arguments in the derek chauvin trial. we will take you back to minneapolis on this very busy breaking news day. and this morning new details about the president's decision to withdraw troops from afghanistan and the advice he didn't listen to. we will be asking the admiral who led the mission to kill osama bin laden what he thinks about this move.
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the last decade. but a lot of the movement we've seen as of late is powered by an economic objective, and we've seen it on this show. and corporations continue to see improvements in their business prospects since the pandemic economic lockdowns last year. yes, that's a very easy comparison to work from because things were so bad last year. but over the last month or so, it's been some of the large technology, media companies that have been behind the higher moves in the stock market. we're talking names like apple, microsoft, amazon, google parent company alphabet. they resumed that leadership in the markets overall but we will keep an eye to see if this trend can continue, especially because you have a slew of earnings reports, 65 companies in the s&p 500, 10 of which are dow components, by the way, are reporting this week. it's hard to believe, stephanie, but the s&p has nearly doubled since the lowest levels of the march pandemic virus lows last year. huge move higher for sure in the markets.
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>> can we talk about crypto for a minute? what in the world is going on? dogecoin jumped 400% last week. all crypto kind of got hit the last couple days and now it is back up. all of this a week after gary gensler was confirmed as our next sec chair and he has not even weighed in on cryptocurrency. >> with gensler, it's interesting because a lot of people consider him to be one of the people in tune with the market overall with cryptocurrencies. that will be one to watch from the regulatory standpoint. but to your point, dogecoin started off as a joke. >> a joke? >> yes, but the profits are massive. the massive move in cryptocurrency, it's minted a bunch of new millionaires. it started in 2013. and dogecoin is supposed to be a way to transact in a fun way
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that be bitcoin. it gained in popularity in no small part for tweets from ee elon musk going to the moon. and now it's bigger than $40 billion, $50 billion, bigger thang some of the biggest companies in america. and there's widespread chatter now of adoption of cryptocurrency in general but the focus has been on the big ones like crypto ethereum. but the small ones, like in many cases small company stocks often go faster higher than big companies. keep an eye on dogecoin. >> driven by chatter, i would like to note what dom talked about there doesn't have anything to do with fundamentals. we will keep watching, as well asghari gensler.
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dom, thank you. and "the new york times" is reporting president biden went against his own general's advise to keep some troops in the region, this after tony blinken defended the decision after returning from kabul. >> we went to afghanistan 20 years ago and went after we were attacked on 9/11. we achieved the objectives we set out to achieve. >> i'm honored to bring in our next guest, someone deeply involved in this war, retired lieutenant general adam mccraven, and he's the author of "the hero code: lessons learned from lives well lived." admiral, thank you very much for being here. i want to talk about a lot of things. but i want to start from the pushback we are hearing on both sides of the aisle without the president's decision. we are there. is biden making the right call? >> well, you know, obviously the biden administration came to the assessment that we weren't going to have a military solution to the problem in afghanistan. but i will tell you as a former
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senior officer, all you really want to make sure is you have an opportunity to talk to the commander in chief to voice your concerns. i know for a fact general scott miller, general frank mckenzie, central command commander, joe mark milley, the chairman and secretary lloyd austin all have extensive experience in afghanistan. they all have an opportunity to sit down with the president and voice their concerns and lay out the risks. then at the end of the day it's up to the civilian leadership to make the decision. our responsibility as a professional military is try to mitigate the risks and do as the commander in chief asks. >> people argue president obama pulling troops from iraq led to the isis rise. how do you say the same things will not happen now with al qaeda? can we fight extremism if we're not there? >> obviously, isis is a little different than even the taliban or al qaeda but we learned
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lessons from our time in iraq and as iraq began to unfold when isis grew. but here's what i will tell you, again, we understand the risks. there are the risks of a resurgent taliban. there are the risks of all of the progress that the women made in afghanistan and will that be drawn back? there's, of course, always the risk of al qaeda creating a sanctuary again in afghanistan. from a counterterrorism standpoint, i will tell you, i think we can mitigate that particular risk and we can do so from over the horizon. we have the technology today to be able to keep drones in the air and as long as we can maintain a reasonably good intelligence network on the ground, we'll be able to kind of keep al qaeda at bay. of course, that is the whole reason we went into afghanistan in the first place. >> you mentioned women, how concerned are you going forward and the safety of afghan women? >> it is absolutely a concern. i listened to the president of afghanistan yesterday and he understands all of the
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remarkable gains women have made. women in afghanistan now make up about 40% of the student bodies across all levels of education. they're in the military, they're in the police, they're in politics. so they made tremendous gains. i think this is something that the afghan people are going to have to fight for. they're going to have to hold the ground when it comes to all of the progress women have made because that is a real concern. and i hope and pray for the afghan people they will be able to keep those gains in place. >> i realize hindsight is 20/20 and sms far more complicated that be someone like me can understand but the united states did spend a trillion dollars, we lost 123 troops in afghanistan and that's not mentioning the countless afghan civilian lives and al qaeda and taliban are still there. was all of this worth it? >> here's what i will tell you, when i think back on the 20 years, one, we have had not had another al qaeda attack in the u.s. we trained 350,000 afghan
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security forces which hopefully will be able to keep the taliban and al qaeda at bay. again, we had great progress in women's rights in afghanistan. but here's something that your listeners ought to pay particular attention to, nothing about the outcome of this war will diminish the sacrifice of the soldiers, saylors, airmen, marines, intelligence professionals, foreign intelligence officers, none of their sacrifice, none of their patriotism, none of their heroism, none of that will be diminished by the outcome of this war. >> i want to talk about that heroism and patriotism. your book is exactly that, a tribute to military heroes you've met over the years. you, of course, are a military hero as well. now that we are seeing so many come home from afghanistan, what should we know about them? >> well, of course, the book is more than just about the military people i've met. it's before these kind of remarkable heroes that i have had a chance to encounter in both my 37 years in the military and also my time as chancellor
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of the university of texas. what you find about heroes is, you know, we can all become heroes. we can learn these noble qualities. we can learn to be courageous. we can learn to be more humble. we can learn to persevere. so the stories in the book are about these remarkable men and women i have had a chance to meet in my life and qualities, these nobel qualities that made them heroes. i think today we need heroes more than ever before. every nation needs heroes. it inspires the younger generation, frankly, to be better than the current generation and move the country forward. so i certainly hope the readers will enjoy the book and see the value of the great heroes i have had a chance to meet in my lifetime. >> and you're absolutely one of them. admiral, thank you very much for joining us and i hope people are listening. everybody has an opportunity to be a hero today. you just have to do something about it. coming up next -- we're just minutes away from closing
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♪♪ back to the breaking news in minneapolis, where at this point we're just menz away from closing arguments in the derek chauvin murder trial before it goes to the jury for deliberations. chauvin, of course, faces three charges, including second degree murder, third degree murder and second degree manslaughter in the may 2020 death of george floyd. let's go live to craig melvin in minneapolis. craig, it is always good to see you, but on a day like this, you've got a lot to cover. what is expected when the judge gavels in today? >> steph, a few things. closing arguments will happen, we're told, in very short order after the judge cahill resumes session here at the top of the hour, excuse me, 10:00 local. it's going to be very
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interesting because what we have been told so far, we'll get two lawyers for the prosecution. you will have steve schlesser, one of the lead attorneys for the prosecution, he will present closing arguments somewhere between an hour, hour and a half. and the defense will present, we're told, guidance we're getting is somewhere in the same neighborhood, somewhere around an hour. after that, we'll get a rebuttal. that rebuttal will come from jerry blackwell. jerry blackwell, known to folks here in the minneapolis area as johnnie cochran of the midwest, how he was initially described. the black attorney you have seen a lot of during the trial. it is important for the prosecution blackwell be the last voice they hear before they start their deliberations. they will get some jury instructions, although they've been given some and some have been decided upon in a closed-door hearing last week. we're told by legal experts here
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in hen amin county the judge could provide some of those before the closing and a few more instructions before they start their deliberations. the expectation here, steph, they will get this case in the early afternoon hours. i spent some time last hour talking to a legal expert here in hennepin county who said she does not expect this is going to be one of those cases that jurors are deliberating over for days or weeks. there's an expectation on the ground of legal experts this will be a matter of days. >> and you're on the ground, craig. you've been there before. you were there immediately after george floyd's death, during the protests and you were there during the funeral. talk to us about this moment now. >> this is about so much more than just the trial of derek chauvin, or not just folks here in minneapolis, not just folks here in minnesota around the country and around the world.
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we spent a fair amount of time in the last year talking about what george floyd's death led to, the racial reckoning. this is a trial that is essentially for a lot of folks, i don't want to say indictment because that probably probably o it justice but part of the reckoning that the trial led to. it will be very interesting to see what the reaction of the verdict will be as we've been talking about the last couple days, preparations under way, not just here in minneapolis, but cities like new york and philadelphia, officers told days off have already been approved. there's concern a not guilty verdict will lead to violence and unrest. there's also concern that a guilty verdict could very well lead to the same. so it's going to be very
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interesting to see how it plays out over the next few days not just here in minneapolis but over the united states of america. >> can i ask how you feel, craig? >> sure. you know, first of all, it's hard to believe, steph, it's been 11 months. trials here in hennepin county trials don't happen as quickly as this one has. and for someone who's been covering it from the beginning to your point, i'm anxious. anxious about a verdict, anxious about reaction to that verdict. so, yeah, that's sort of how i feel. but i think for a lot of folks in the wake of george floyd's death as a journalist, it forced me to take a look at how i have been conducting myself personally and professionally. i think a lot of folks have been doing the same thing over the past 11 months.
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after the verdict, that doesn't go away. i think regardless of the verdict, i think a lot of folks are changed and will be changed forever in a forever in a myriad of change. >> craig will be anchoring from minneapolis, but coming up next, the president will meet with a bipartisan group of lawmakers to talk infrastructure today. who will be in that room. and could congress actually vote on this any time soon? biden wants to. y time soon? biden wants to everybody's a skeptic. wright brothers? more like, yeah right, brothers! get outta here! it's not crazy. it's a scramble. just crack an egg. ♪ ♪ this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain and clearer skin.
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infrastructure. as you know the $2.2 trillion infrastructure plan calls for spending for repairing 20,000 miles of roads, remediating lead pipes into this group today, what the white house is trying to do meeting by meeting is trying to find common ground. the point of tension right now is how to pay for it. democrats disagree among themselves about whether or how much to pay, and democrats and republicans disagree on that issue as well. nancy pelosi says she wants them to act on it. >> we only have a few seconds left. the white house flip-flopped on the number of refugees allowed in the u.s. what happened here? >> so on friday the white house made clear that the president would keep in place the current cap on refugee resettlements at
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15,000 people for the current fiscal year. that number was set in place by the trump administration if is way below the 62,000 people that president biden proposed. the backlash to that was swift. what you see on your screen is the back and forth from the first announcement to the revised announcement from the white house. over the weekend the president suggested that the situation with the unaccompanied minors coming across the border that that crisis made it such that he didn't think the white house could do both things at once. now he says that the administration will raise the number on the amount of people who were able to be resettled here in the u.s., steph. >> thank you at home for watching this very busy hour. stay with us on this breaking news day. hallie jackson picks up news with closing arguments in the chauvin trial set to begin any moment from now. you will want to see this. this.
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