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have no doubt that it will. it survived 10 1/2 years of separation. it survived a trial, prison. i don't know what else there could be. that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. good morning, breaking right now on msnbc -- officials in brooklyn center, minnesota, issuing a last-minute cure few amid protests leading law enforcement to clear crowds outside the police department's building and make arrests. residents on edge. >> does it look like i'm doing okay? i try to make it seem like i'm doing okay, but i'm not doing
okay. >> plus, royal farewell, we are hours away from prince philip's service. right now as we speak his coffin is being moved to the hall of windsor castle. >> and the royal rift. prince harry back in the since stepping back from his duties. >> plus, the new america first caucus in washington that's pitting republicans against each other. far right lawmakers looking to form a group aimed at protecting the so-called european heritage. a leading republican is calling the effort a nativist dog whistle. >> and new reaction from dr. anthony fauci after a fiery exchange with jim jordan on when states can end covid-19 precautions, claiming that these measures infringe on first amendment rights. >> it's very frustrating, because as a public health official i'm very much aware of
this issue of covid-19 fatigue. the numbers speak for themselves. we say good morning, everybody, on this saturday morning. it is starting out to be a very busy one. i'm kendis gibson. >> i'm lindsey reiser. we are live from msnbc headquarters in new york. we are hours away from the official procession here at windsor uk. >> this, of course, is buckingham palace. usually you can see the flag up top standing fully staff there, and it would be the royal standard if the queen is in-house, she is in fact at windsor castle, where we also have live cameras where we expect some movement within the next couple of hours leading up to the funeral for prince philip. >> we will have plenty of royal experts to dive in on what we can expect, as well as live reporters. we have a team of them following the latest this morning.
we are going to kick off with protests around the country overnight. people taking to the streets in multiple cities, including chicago. brooklyn center, and oakland. outrage over several police-involved incidents. daunte wright was shot and killed almost a week ago, ten miles from where the derek chauvin trial is. adam toledo was killed after being shot by police in the chest, and in virginia, army officer nazario is suing two officers for excessive force during a traffic stop. >> it is dizzying to look at that. you can see that many americans are very upset with all of this. let's go to nbc correspondent rehema ellis in chicago. things turned sense overnight. >> reporter: good morning, guys. yeah, across the city anger is growing over the police shooting of 13-year-old adam toledo. last night the largest
demonstration in the city so far took place. take a look at some of these images we have for you, demanding accountable for adam. people took to the street. there were some tense moments between police and protesters, but for the most part, authorities say that this event last night was a peaceful one. but there is a growing sense that there is a need for some kind of justice here for adam, particularly after the release of the police body cam video showing the moment when this teenage boy was shot. we want to warn people, the images you're about to see are disturbing. responding to a call of shots fired, this is what the officer saw as he was chasing adam toledo, just moments before making a split decision. officer eric stillman fired, hitting 13-year-old toledo from the chest. records were released which state that toledo was armed with a weapon. in edited police video
authorities point out what they say appears to be a gun in toledo's right hand. surveillance video shows him tossing something. it happened in less than a second. and from the body cam of a different officer, there is a gun by the fence near where the teen was fatally shot. but the family's lawyer points to another image where toledo appears to be empty handed. >> he said show me your hands, and he did and there was nothing in his hands when he got shot. >> he had a whole life, a whole future, and gone, just like that. >> an attorney for officer eric stillman says toledo had a gun in his hand and that his client was faced with a life-threatening and deadly force situation. as more demonstrations are planned, toledo's family is urging people to remain calm. no charge has been filed against the officer and right now he's been placed on administrative duty. guys, back to you. >> thank you. we want to go to nbc
correspondent ron allen in brooklyn center, minneapolis, where the curfew is still in place after protests got heated late last night. what is the latest? >> reporter: well, they tried something new here last night. they didn't have a curfew at first. they were trying to make it easier situation, because the curfew is usually what causes the confrontations to escalate between the police and protesters. things were going very calm until they weren't, obviously. police say that the protesters were trying to breach this fence behind me, which surrounds police headquarters and they said protesters in the back were trying to breach the fence. once that happened, the police decided they had to impose a curfew and that's when they swooped down and started arresting people. the last count, there may have been as many as 100 people who were arrested. the police have been staging in huge numbers in this neighborhood for the past few nights. watching the situation, trying to let the protesters have their time and make it peaceful.
most people out here have been peaceful, but authorities say there's a small element in the crowd who come with gas masks, with helmets, with plywood they use as shields and protection and they say that they are here to cause trouble, very different from the peaceful protesters who were here upset about what's been happening otherwise. so that's been the situation. caught in the middle of all of that are the residents who live around here. this is a residential community that you can't see in the dark, obviously, right across the street from the police station. there are a number of apartment complexes. we spoke to some of those residents about what it's like to be caught in the middle. here is some of what they had to say. >> i blame the protesters and i blame the police, because the police are going to act the fool and the protesters would act the fool. and if they would show love or support for each other, we wouldn't have this. there's a right to protest, there's a right to freedom of
speech, but the looting, the fires, the chaos, that's not right. i blame both parties. >> reporter: there are more protests planned for today and through the weekend. the weekends are usually more intense because people aren't working and people aren't in school, so on and so forth, and of course the tension here is building as we get into the week and to a verdict, presumably, pretty soon in the trial of derek chauvin in the death of george floyd. so a lot going on here as we head through the weekend and into the coming week. >> a couple of tense weeks ahead. ron allen joining us from minnesota and rehema ellis joining us from chicago. thank you both. the nation does appear to be at yet another inflection point. we're joined by civil rights attorney tim alexander for more insight on all of this. good morning to you. thank you for being here. i want to pop up, once again, the multiple box and different cameras that we had from
overnight showing all of the unrest that is taking place in this country. you saw it, of course, that took place in brooklyn center, minnesota as well. it is dizzying, it is heart wrenching, the country is at an inflection point. what, in your opinion, would it take to calm all of this? >> we're going to need action from congress on a national level to bring about police training reform, meaningful reform, that's going to integrate better our communities with our law enforcement agencies. there has to be a bridge built. there's no way of getting around it. this is the longest, perhaps longest pandemic that we've suffered, is this crisis of racism, systemic racism within law enforcement, that people need to feel better about and they need to find solutions that are going to give people peace of mind that the police are there to work with them, to serve them, to protect them, and not kill them.
>> i want to talk to you about daunte wright's parents. they are calling for the now x officer who shot their son to be charged with murder as opposed to manslaughter. do you agree, should the charges be more serious here? >> being charged with negligent manslaughter is pretty serious and i believe, as a former prosecutor, that when the prosecutors sat down and looked at the facts and looked at the charges they had available, there was a determination of what they can prove in court with the evidence they have, the statements, the video. i believe that the charges that they picked are the charges that they believe they can proceed and get a conviction on. and i understand the passion, the desire to have the most severe crime, but she is charged with manslaughter and it is severe. >> let's talk about virginia right now, because there was more outrage, as you recall. you remember, of course, the viral video that we covered last weekend of lieutenant nazario
being pulled over in a traffic stop. of course, you remember the scene. >> you received an order. obey it. get out, get out! get out of the car! you're not cooperating. >> there are now calls for the police chief to resign, but the police chief is refusing to offer nazario even an apology, instead saying that nazario took certain actions that created where things got. now the lieutenant's lawyers are accusing him of victim blaming. do you agree? what's happening here? >> i agree fully. the chief saw that video in december and he reprimanded that officer, a training officer. aside from all the things he did wrong, including the way he was holding his weapon, i don't know why he had it out, it's just
terrible in every sense of the word. yes, i think the chief is not a proper fit for that community. his position is initially, before this video became public, that he was going to protect these officers. and now, even today, after all that we know, after all that we've seen, the hurt that this video has caused not just to the second lieutenant, but to the entire community again, another senseless, mean-spirited interaction with law enforcement in a community that they're sworn to protect. and his position is that the driver had some responsibility? i said this before, i say it again, if that driver was a 65-year-old white woman, none of that would ever happen, even if she did the exact same thing he did. >> to your point, that officer also, you mentioned, took administrative action. that action didn't include termination until that video went viral. kendis has mention over and over again, we are at a fever pitch. these incidents are all taking
place against the backdrop of the derek chauvin trial. a few days ago you tweeted we must peacefully stand up and demand change now. so what is your message to the people out there protesting, but also to leaders on what that change needs to be? >> to the people out there protesting, i support them. as your colleagues pointed out, there's a small pocket within every protest that are there for over purposes, to cause destruction, to be disruptive. we have to root them out. the peaceful protesting is getting us attention to this issue. my call, call for action, is getting legislation that helps officers find the balance that they need with their own protection and those they swore to protect, to root out those in law enforcement with nefarious purposes, and to better screen candidates coming into law enforcement, to include a commitment to community service before even becoming a law enforcement officer. there's so many things that we
can do that are within our power to do to make a better law enforcement officer, whether man or woman, to go to their communities and serve them. this can be done. we just have to have the will, the desire, and a little bit of money. we could get it done. >> tim alexander, we'll have to leave it there for today. thank you for coming on with us in the early morning. let's turn to our other top story. we are awaiting the first live pictures out of the uk of a military procession that is set to take place shortly ahead of prince philip's funeral service. >> we want to get out to nbc's anne thompson, outside of windsor castle. that's where the ceremony will be held today. how will today play out? >> reporter: good morning. this is essentially a made-for-tv event because of covid. everything that we will see today will happen behind the walls of windsor castle, because of the pandemic. still there is a small crowd that has gathered outside to
see -- we're not quite sure why they are here, other than they want to be part of the event. but they won't see anything because everything will happen inside those castle walls. the service itself will be fairly short, just 50 minutes long, and it will begin at 10:00 a.m. eastern time. there will be 730 military personnel on hand to provide some of the pageantry that we all have come to associate with the british royal family, but the numbers of people who actually attend the funeral will be small. instead of what would have been 800, if we were in normal times, there will be just 30, including obviously queen elizabeth, her son prince charles, and his wife, camilla, and then prince charles's sons, prince william and his wife kate, and of course prince harry. his wife, megan markle staying back in california because she is pregnant with their second child. the service itself will be
marked by very personal touches from prince philip. he played a big role in designing the service, everything from designing the land rover that will carry his body from one part of windsor castle to st. george's chapel, to the songs that will be sung during the service. throughout the week, the royal family has given us glimpses of the more personal side of the prince who is do known as the duke of edinburgh. in fact, this picture was released yesterday. it is said to be the queen's favorite picture of herself and her husband. they were on picnic and it was taken by the countess of wessex. >> it's such a beautiful photo. and sophie, it's her favorite daughter-in-law who took that photo. they've gotten to see so much of the royals throughout.
it's kind of surprising. you've covered the royals for so many years. it's surprising we did not hear from the queen at all during this time. when her mother passed away, she did speak and address the cameras. >> reporter: yes, and i think we were all hoping that we would hear from her before the funeral. certainly, she gave a speech to the nation when her mother died and she did that on the night before the funeral. but this loss, you have to imagine is just so deeply personal as well as professional, if you will. this is her partner of 73 years. it's the only man that she ever loved. she told her father when she was a teenager that she was going to marry philip, and it has been a genuine partnership. what he did, he essentially sacrificed his career for hers.
when she became queen, he had just gotten command of his own naval ship and was moving up in the ranks. all of a sudden he had to stop and then devote his life to her and this country. >> lifting the veil a little bit on their relationship. nbc's anne thompson, thank you so much. new details on the fedex shooter known to the fbi and still able to get a gun and take it to his former workplace. we're learning more about the victims of the massacre as well. >> and on january 6th, they breached the capitol with fellow far right malitia men. 100 days later, he would be pleading guilty and agreeing to cooperate with the fbi. the leader of the oath keepers turns. but what does it mean for others responsible for the riot? okay, imagine this... your mover, rob, he's on the scene and needs a plan with a mobile hotspot.
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flipped, securing prosecutors with their first guilty plea in the january 6th capitol insurrection investigation. john schaefer pleaded guilty friday to illegally entering congress and obstructing an official proceeding. he is said to be cooperating with the feds regarding other suspects and could require witness protection. schaefer surrenders on january 17th after his picture was featured on an fbi poster. police have said far right groups planned for violence during the capitol siege and the investigation has led to more than 400 arrests. >> we're getting new details this morning at a mass shooting at a fedex facility indianapolis. the police identified the suspect, a 19-year-old, former employee of the fedex center, whose own mother sent a warning about him to law enforcement just a year ago. nbc's kathy park is there for
us. >> caller: good morning to you. that is exactly right. according to police, the suspect was armed with a rifle and began shooting at random, first outside of this facility behind me late thursday night, killing four people and briefly made it inside the building, killing four more employees before taking his own life. as you mentioned, he is a former fedex employee. it's unclear why his employment ended last year. as officials try to figure out a motive, his own mother, as you mentioned, contacted authorities last year, saying that she feared that her son was potentially about to commit suicide by cop. now, in the wake of this mass shooting, president biden came out yesterday, saying that this
gun violence across the country is an epidemic, and underscored the need to act. take a listen. >> it's not only these mass shootings that are occurring, every single day, every single day there's a mass shooting in the united states, if you count all those who are killed out on the streets of our cities and our rural areas. it's a national embarrassment and must come to an end. >> reporter: and this morning we are learning a little bit more about the eight victims. they range in age from 19 to 74, and four of the victims were members of the community. at least 100 people were inside the facility at the time of the shooting, and apparently there was a dinner break, a shift change, when the gunfire erupted. >> it's so horrible. it could have been horse, but horrible as it is. kathy park, thank you. when you hear the phrase
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while some republicans are looking to join, others are denouncing the idea. >> joining us right now with the very latest. msnbc correspondent amanda golden. good morning. what exactly is the reason behind all of this? >> reporter: kendis, we're learning that congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is this influential figure that is launching this america first caucus. there are a number of republicans coming out in support, but also many who are pushing back immediately. the first to report and obtain organizing documents. this group calls for a common respect for unique anglo-saxon traditional traditions and beyond that, the materials argue a very nativist ideology with a racist legacy behind it that poses a threat to the, quote, long-term existential future of america with a unique culture and unique identity due to what they site as mass immigration, coming in and replacing the
traditional american ideology. these materials are causing a lot of controversy but we got a statement from the spokesperson who congresswoman green who confirmed it's happening, while pushing back on the leak of materials. they said capitol is full of dirty backstabbing swamp creatures willing to leak gossip to borderline tabloids. as you noted, congressman louis gomer said he would potentially be on board. others have said they want to see what's happening before they make any kind of commitment. beyond that, though, the house minority leader, kevin mccarthy, a strong tweet coming out against this group, saying america is built on the idea that we are all created equal and success is earned through honest, hard work. the republican party is the party of lincoln and opportunity for all americans, not dog
whistles. >> thank you for the latest on that report. we want to bring in carolyn maloney of new york. she is the chair of the house oversight and reform committee. congresswoman, good morning. >> good morning, lindsey and kendis. first, i want to congratulate you on the promotion of your show. >> thank you very much. >> congratulations. >> thank you, congresswoman. we appreciate that. i want to just get your thoughts on this potential new caucus. i mean, we have kevin mccarthy here saying republicans is the party of lincoln here. is he essentially trying to get the party back on track, but it might be a little too late for that? >> well, first, i would say that hate has no place in congress, and this latest effort to sow division and hatred, and i would say lies held by extremist marjorie taylor greene, they're talking about the debunked lies
that we've seen over and over again, that the election was stolen, it was filled with fraud. there's been no proof whatsoever. it went to court several times, it was totally thrown out. they are sowing hateful rhetoric against immigration and sowing division and spreading anti-science views about the coronavirus. >> well, the american first caucus platform says that pauses in immigration were essential to weeding out those who refuse to abandon their old loyalties and plunge into mainstream american society according to these materials. the rhetoric is pretty similar to that of former kkk wizard duke. let's listen. >> i love my people, my heritage. i want to preserve my heritage like everybody person does. >> what does that mean? >> how about european heritage? >> what does that mean? >> i'll tell you what, you don't know what european heritage is?
mozart and bach and beethoven? >> they're people that come from different countries. >> shouldn't we be celebrating what makes us different in our diversity and unique? >> diversity is strength. we're all immigrants, most of us, and we work together for a great country that we have. we don't need this division and hatred and attacks against other people. why can't they work with president biden towards an infrastructure project? we're trying to bring $2.2 trillion to infrastructure across this country. that's something that should be unifying us, helping our country, helping our people, helping our economy. there are so many things that are positive we could be working on. not on division and hatred and lies. >> part of that park is the fact that you sit on the subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis and this week we witnessed congressman jim jordan
confronting dr. fauci again over covid restrictions. let's listen to part of that exchange that you heard in person and then let's hear what dr. fauci told my colleague, joy reed last night. >> when do americans get their first amendment liberties back? >> i don't think anyone was censured because they felt they couldn't disagree with me. i think you're making this a personal thing and it isn't. >> it's not a personal thing. >> no, you are. that is exactly what you're doing. you have about 60,000 infections a day, which is a very large risk for a surge. >> i certainly want to get my life back, but i also put as a higher priority the health and the safety and the lives of the american public. >> congresswoman, we see tense exchanges like this, we see senator ted cruz refusing to wear a mask in the senate because he says he's been vaccinated, even though not everybody has. do you think that this only further erodes trust in some of these public safety measures? >> absolutely. we should be pushing together.
we're almost going around the corner. we're climbing out of it. we had 200 million people vaccinated, the president said he would have 100 million in the first 100 days. he doubled that. he pledges to have a dose for every american by the end of may and that would be the end of it, if we get everybody vaccinated and out in front of this virus, as dr. fauci said at the hearing, we can conquer it, turn the corner and start building back our economy and helping our people. why they keep putting out division and lies and anti-science views, i don't understand. it's quite simple. we did a great thing, we developed a vaccination. let's use it, get it out to our people. let's get ahead of this virus. we're in a race against the virus. as long as it's ahead of us, it will continue to infect people and there are variations that are dangerous. dr. fauci says our goal is to get ahead of it and we can con
kerr it. we are turning the corner and pulling out of it now. let's make that happen instead of questioning everything the doctor says, to wear a mask, take our vaccinations. the best thing we could do for our families and our country is get vaccinated and get everyone vaccinated. >> we still need to do what is required. thank you. >> it's too bad the congresswoman isn't more passionate about that topic. she clearly is. we are watching cameras ahead of the funeral for prince philip. his passing leaving many to ask, will his death raise doubts about the value of the monarchy, especially in today's world? our royal experts will weigh in as we await the first movement out of windsor castle of the funeral for prince philip. lip. g. [ ding ] success! that means... best burger ever.
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pictures outside windsor castle. the funeral service for prince philip is set to begin in just a few hours from now and a military procession will start, i believe, at the top of the hour. >> we know that even though people have been told to stay home and watch the procession from the comfort of their own couches, because of covid restrictions, we did hear correspondent anne thompson say quite a few many people have already started gathering to see what they can. a somber day, indeed, in the uk as the royal family mourns the
passing of the longest serving con sort in british history. we have royal expert and andrew roberts, british historian. >> daisy, i want to start with you. plans for the funeral have been modified because of the pandemic, but many aspects of the ceremony are still in line with the prince's wishes. how so? walk us through. >> reporter: very much so, the covid related design of the funeral i think would have been very much to his wishes because he wanted something as small as possible and that's what he's got. but where he's been laying in the private chapel, he designed that private chapel in windsor castle behind me when it was burnt down in a huge fire. he designed that chapel where he's been lying next to the queen's private apartment. then his coffin earlier this morning was moved to a land rover that he, himself, designed back in 2013. he didn't like the green color, so it got painted a more
military green in line with his wishes. the hymns being sung, very much a naval theme upholding his military background. and of course the guest list, we have these three slightly surprising additions to the 30 guests who are going to be there representing the german side of the duke of edinburgh's family, because he's always been miffed that they weren't allowed to go to his wedding and this was definitely one of his wishes, that they were represented today. >> andrew, of course right now a lot of attention is going to be on prince harry. this is his return to the uk. it's captured so much attention already. he's not going to be walking by his brother's side behind the hearst. there will be separated by their cousin here. is that significant or are we making something out of nothing? >> i think we are making quite a lot out of nothing, frankly. peter phillips had to be somewhere in that procession and it was a rather sensible thing,
i think, considering his height, to have him in the middle of those, especially considering, of course, the whole thing is being done according to the covid rules of 6 feet distancing. so i really don't think that we should make too much of this. >> daisy, in a break with tradition, the royal family did decide not to wear military uniforms to the funeral. again, similar to the question lindsey asked, are we making a lot out of this particular change? >> no, i would say i would agree with andrew about the three grandsons being there together. that's not much of a big deal. but the uniforms is a big deal. we know that prince philip was a military man to his core, very proud of the service that he had done and also proud of the service that prince andrew and prince harry had performed in the military. but, of course, those were the two members of the royal family that are no longer allowed to wear a uniform because one has
been forcibly stepped back, temporarily, we're told, that royal duties, therefore no longer eligible to wear the uniform. and the other one, prince harry, voluntarily has stepped back from the royal family and being a working royal, and therefore no longer head of the royal marines, as he very proudly took over from prince philip, but had to give that up when he moved to the states. so that is a big deal and it was the queen who said all in uniform, but no mismatch. but if you're not in uniform, you can't salute. there are lots of implications of that decision. >> we have to leave it there for now but we will be bringing you back in in our next hour. thank you both so very much. coming up, mixed messages coming from the white house overrefugee limits, plus the spy who u.s. intelligence officials say is the key link between the trump campaign and kremlin
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former trump adviser and longtime republican ally roger stone slapped with a lawsuit from the u.s. justice department. the doj accusing stone and his wife of owing nearly $2 million in unfade federal income taxes and fees. not the first time or the first brush with the law for stone. last year he was sentenced to 40 months in prison for lying to congress about his role in the wikileaks scandal to try to dig up dirt on hillary clinton during the 2016 elections. president trump pardoned him. the white house is backtracking hoping to ease the intense blowback from democrats after president biden said he would not raise the number of refugees allowed to enter the u.s., which was lowered by the trump administration. now his office says the
president will revisit the issue. msnbc's monica alba is in delaware with more. the press secretary, jan psaki, is calling this, quote, some confusion. >> reporter: it certainly led to that, lindsay. that's absolutely right. this amounted to a walk back to a walk back. for weeks the white house had been asked whether they were going to increase that refugee cap because it had been lowered so significantly by the trump administration and the press secretary had vowed that the president was committed to that. but it took a very long time to get details on why the delay. then we learned yesterday essentially they were going to do a reallocation, but of just 15,000 refugees, instead of increasing it back to 62,000, which is something that candidate joe biden had indicated he was supporting. so what the press secretary had to do yesterday was put out a rare statement where she did allude to that confusion and then she did ultimately say because of all the blowback,
even just from democrats, allies of the president who were so upset that the president had not fulfilled this promise, she said they expect the president to set a final increased refugee cap for the remainder of this fiscal year 15th. we will expect more details. what's notable is we don't expect that to be raised to 62,500. she called that unlikely. this is a political stumble for a white house that has been very, very careful about all of its policy rollout. we should point out that public polling does show when it comes to things like covid relief and infrastructure, the president is enjoying quite a high approval rating, but on areas like immigration, this is where there are more pitfalls and kwied. this division was met with fierce blowback not just by progressives and activists, but moderate democrats and some who are quite, quite close to this president. this is something they are going to have to keep explaining.
>> so let's turn to russia. the kremlin is retaliating against president biden's sanctions asking ten dip lats to lead russia. we are learning more about paul manafort. his friend gave trump campaign data to russian intelligence services. where does this leave us? >> reporter: yeah, that's interesting is that the treasury department went further than what the mueller report did and what a bipartisan senate intel committee report did a couple of years ago when it comes to the actions. of course, this question of collusion. now we saw in these new sanctions that came out from the biden white house that essentially konstantin kilimnik, who was an ally who worked with paul manafort, he is a ukrainian russian, and he has been linked to russian intelligence and it's the treasury department saying explicitly that this was because
they believe he gave via paul manafort the russians information about campaign and polling strategies. this is the first time. now we are able to report that u.s. officials essentially are citing new evidence and intelligence that brought them to this conclusion. that's why they were able to go further than what they had said in prior reports. what is interesting here also is that we don't know whether this intelligence was developed under the trump administration and not revealed or under biden administration. the treasury department declined to comment on that. this is notable given the intelligences between u.s. and russia and that president biden has invited president putin to a summit later this summer. unclear whether the russians will accept the invitation. >>. next, could medical expertsing closing in on a reason for the vaccine blood clots. and preparations underway for prince philip's funeral. we will have live coverage. plus, some russian lawmakers
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honing in on this problem. wondering if an immune reaction might be the underlying cause. joining us msnbc correspondent cory, what can you tell us about what the doctors are finding? >> reporter: scientists here say that they are trying to figure out if there is a specific correlation, a specific cause and effect between getting the johnson & johnson vaccine and these rare instances of blood clots that they have seen or if they coincide with these specific patients who had possibly an underlong island lying immune response. and the way they are honing in on this is by looking at the astrazeneca cases abroad because that was similar that we saw with blood clotting. different systems, but possibly similar responses in the different cases that we've seen. now, this has left many people with questions, millions of people across the country, weary of getting the johnson & johnson vaccine. dr. anthony fauci has been trying to answer questions about
that and assuaging fears. he spokane with savannah guthrie and the "today" show about the timing of this possible pause in the united states. >> they did the pause because, as we saw first one, two, three, four, and then six, albeit as rare as it is, as you said quite correctly and appropriately, no less than one in a million, nonetheless, as you said, out of an abundance of caution they want to take a pause, take a look at it, see what's going on, see if there are any more details and then that's it. but i think it's going to be a matter of days, not months, for sure. >> reporter: okay. so in the meantime, what is next for the vaccination effort in the united states? take connecticut, for example. they are one of the first states to pause the vaccine before the national pause. they say they are going to be receiving more pfizer and moderna to try to make up for the vaccine appointments that they have here. sites will have to adjust. they will actually get quieter
in the next few days. if dr. fauci's time something right, just days, but possibly could be weeks or months depending what they find with this vaccine. >> appreciate it. we're almost at the top of the hour. we will begin a new hour right here on msnbc. ♪♪ first up, a royal farewell. we are thursday away from prince philip's funeral service with our coverage kicking off at 9:00 a.m. eastern. a military procession at windsor castle set to begin momentarily in honor of the duke of edinburg. >> looming over all of this, the royal rift. prince harry back in the u.k. for the first time since stepping down from his royal duties. his wife meghan staying in l.a. and some are saying white supremacists rhetoric is making its way into the halls of congress as hard-right
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