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don't they open their eyes to what the public relations are? they've got to stop this stuff. >> 91-year-old woke pat robertson saying police have got to stop this 91 year old said te have got to stop this stuff, that will take us off the air tonight and that is our broadcast on thursday evening, thanks for being with us. on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. >> as we speak, ten russian officials who are ostensibly on the diplomatic staff of the russian embassy in washington and in new york, tonight ten different russian officials have been told by the biden administration that they have 30 days to leave the united states. now, i'm being a little bit willie about what their jobs are because an instances like
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this the general perception is that the russians are being kicked out of the country tonight, even though they may work at the embassy of a consulate, the perception is that these folks are being asked to leave because they are not legitimate diplomats. again, generally speaking the idea is that whoever the guy is not really -- he is actually a spy. intelligence personnel, spy for the russian government working here with a cover story that they are employed at the embassy. this of course is the worst cover story in the world, anybody who has read a single book ever or seen even one bad spy movie can spot this a mile away. it is an unsubtle cover. but they still do it. because we do a two in moscow and in our embassy, around the world, this is what countries do, they take their spies to be
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diplomatic employees. but tonight we have called that bluff and the u.s. government has named to ten russians, basically as intelligence personnel and they must leave this country. they are expelled. and this comes as all of a sudden this week, we are having lots of big and very definitive moves from the new u.s. president, the new administration about us and the world. and things that joe biden said during the campaign that he would undo and redo, and and he is doing a whole bunch of them all at once this week. so yesterday for example, we get president biden announcing the and to the longest war, the american military has ever fought, for nearly two decade in afghanistan the war will end. all u.s. troops will be brought home before september 11th of this year. interesting ali, that today, the day after that announcement about ending the war, president
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biden sent his secretary of state, anthony blinken, on a surprise trip to afghanistan to go meet with the afghan president. basically to show that even though u.s. troops are leaving afghanistan, but he was government is still committed to supporting the afghan government, and supporting the nation of afghanistan and other enduring ways. so, the tight scheduling -- biden announces the pull out of all u.s. troops from afghanistan yesterday, on wednesday, on thursday anthony blinken is in afghanistan talking about the enduring commitment from the u.s. government to the nation of afghanistan, which nobody should think is undermined. it almost suggest that the president and the administration put some thought into this, they didn't just come up with the idea of ending for war with the spur of the moment. because he needed something to put in a tweet.
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planning. coordination between different elements of the federal government, consultation with allies, consistent messaging, things spelled right, i still can't get used to it. it's like having a professional government. weird. but that move from the president, the announcement about the war, the end of the war in afghanistan, followed today in the early morning hours that the secretary of state had arrived in kabul, which was followed by another big move, a piece of big news from the new u.s. president. you might remember that the very first person who was confirmed in the biden cabinet the only cabinet member who was confirmed was the director of national -- avril haines. the new president, president biden, put her right to work in his first week in office even
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though she was one of the only cabinet members confirmed. president biden announced in his first week in office that he had all ordered avril haines to conduct an intelligence review into quote, reckless and an adversarial action by russia, the new york times called it a sweeping assessment. it was ordered by the intelligence community. it was looking at russia in terms of a hacking attack but it was looking at them also on a bunch of different fronts. he told the director that she needed to review all the intelligence and report to him on russia allegedly mounting that cyber attack on the u.s. last year, the solar winds, also their alleged chemical weapon assassination attempts. also those unbelievably inflammatory, outrageous reports at the kremlin had offered to pay cash bounties to fighters in afghanistan if they were to attack u.s. members there. also the issue of whether russia came back at our elections in 2020 to try to
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influence and undermine elections in 2020 after they did in 2016. biden assigned that wide range review to the intelligence on russia's activities. in his very first few days in office. and today, we learned the outcome of that, and it turns out to be a surprising mix. it seems to be kind of a transparent, interesting surprising set of data that they have returned. it came with a whole bunch of goverment action by the biden administration today, some of them quite dramatic, and surprise, it came with a huge new piece of news in it that we did not expect to get today at all. so, first of all in the cyberattacks, the solar winds attack which is said to be the most damaging cyberattack in the west. the biden administration said today that basically with high confidence they said that they put the blame to the russian intelligence services. on the nerve agent
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assassination assassination attempt on alexei navalny, -- on the assassination attempt using the nerve agent against navalny, the biden administration today assigned blame specifically to the successor agency to what's used to be the kgb. russian intelligence is blamed for both the solar winds attack and the navalny assassination effort. on the bounties allegation, the bounties for u.s. service members being attacks in afghanistan this is very interesting. the intelligence review, apparently, did not disapprove that allegation and that reporting from several months ago, but it also doesn't endorse it. it only endorses that allegation with quote, low to moderate confidence. but i say this appears to be an incident of transparency for
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public consumption in the intelligence process in the u.s. this is part of what i mean. i mean, the of their assignment of playing by the u.s. government today were essentially definitive, and they resulted in the u.s. government taking action. sanctions for -- new sanctions announced today against multiple russian individuals for the solar winds attack, but on this case of whether russia put bounties on u.s. troops, no action taken. at least that we can tell. white house press secretary, jen psaki explaining that the intelligence community looks closely at the intelligence here, and they feel like this one is not nailed down. they have only low to moderate confidence that russia actually did this, jen psaki saying to get the white house that the intelligence community does have stronger confidence that the russian intelligence is actively involved with criminal gangs and networks in afghanistan and they want an explanation from russia about that. on the specific super
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inflammatory question about whether that extends to russia having paid cash bounties for criminals and fighters in afghanistan to target u.s. service members, no from conclusion. so, no sanctions or punishment for russia on that, at least for now. although the administration says that they are continuing to push russia on it while russia continues to deny it. fascinating. and then there is the in election interference, that is the one that came with an easter egg in the middle of it that i can't quite believe they just confirmed. so last month, the busy busy office, under avril haines, they declassified this intelligence community assessment about the 2020 election. about what foreign entities did to mess with our election in 2020. and it comes to what russia did in 2020, it was blunt language, it was spelled out in strong terms. we assess that president putin
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and the russian state authorize and conducted influence operation against the 2020 u.s. presidential election aimed at denigrating president biden and the democratic party, supporting former president trump, undermining public confidence in the electoral confidence and exacerbating social political divisions in the united states. a key element of moscow strategy this election cycle was its use of people linked to russian intelligence to launder influence narratives including misleading or unsubstantiated allegations against president biden, through u.s. media organization, u.s. officials and prominent u.s. individuals, some of whom were close to former president trump, and his administration. the report continues quote, a network of ukraine linked individuals including russian influence agent constant teen kilimnik, individuals who were also connected to the russian federal security service took steps throughout the election cycle to damage u.s. ties to ukraine. to denigrate president biden and his candidacy, and to
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benefit former president trump's prospects for reelection. we assess this network, again it's ukraine linked individuals who are also connected to the organization, we assess this network also sought to discredit the obama administration by emphasizing accusations of corruption by u.s. officials and to falsely blame ukraine for interfering in the 2016 election. this is the intelligence community de classified assessment of foreign attacks on our elections, this was declassified last month. all this detail on what russia did to try to boost donald trump's candidacy in 2020, just the way that it boosted him in 2016. it was very interesting at the time, and now in retrospect, maybe we have greater insight into why that happened. but it was very interesting that by name in this declassified report, we got a description of would this one specific guy, konstantin kilimnik, did for the kremlin
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in 2020. and the reason his name was familiar to us when we got this report is because this is a guy who had a very starring role in what the kremlin did when they try to elect trump in 2016. this is a guy who had a starring role in the mueller report, this is the guy, if you control f his name, in the senate intelligence report in would happen in our election, his name comes up 774 times. konstantin kilimnik he is a major figure in our understanding of what russia did to attack our election in 2016 to put donald trump in the white house. here he is again, four years later, in the 2020 election, with u.s. intelligence saying that he again played a starring role, a leading role, an important role in the kremlin's effort to mess with yet again another u.s. election, to make sure that donald trump would stay president. today the biden administration announced a whole new raft of
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sanctions on dozens of individuals and entities in response to russia's 2020 interference, and they announced the expulsion of russian spies from d.c. and from new york, and they announced these interesting new financial sanctions that ban people in the united states from investing in -- with buying government bonds, which is interesting in its own right, and it might be a first step to broadly causing russia off from the financial market which could be economically deadly for even big countries, even countries that float on a sea of oil like russia does. the biden administration even singled out by name the russian front website that were designed to look like news websites but we're really operated by russian intelligence, which was a small part of how the disseminated the kremlin disinformation promoting trump and targeting joe biden and his family during the 2020 campaign. the biden administration did all of this very detailed, very hard hidden stuff today.
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but, in explaining the new sanctions today, against one russian intelligence official in particular, and explaining the new sections again this guy, konstantin kilimnik, reminding the world that there's a quarter million dollar ward took for any information leading to his arrest. reminding the world that he is under indictment in the united states. today, unexpectedly, amid this big blast of sanctions for what russia has been doing against them, we got some big news. here is what the formal announcement from the treasury department said. it says quote, constant teen is a no no russian intelligence -- during the 2016 election, he provided the russian intelligence services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy. additionally, konstantin
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kilimnik sought to promote the narrative that ukraine, not russia, had interfered in the 2016 u.s. election. that is new today. that is from the treasury today. and as i said, there are sanctions on a ton of people and they named them. they put these new financial restrictions in how people can invest in government funds in russia. a lot of things that they announced here today. including, we're not gonna do anything about the russian bounties because we're not satisfied for sure that it actually happened. lots of interesting information today from the intelligence community. this thing on konstantin kilimnik, i mean, if you start at the end of what they said, they say that he sought to promote the narrative that ukraine, not russia had interfered in the 2016 u.s. presidential election. if you start that part of it, fine. they say that konstantin kilimnik part of the kremlin's elections to cover up what
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russia did. russian tried to cover it up by concocting the story that blamed another country, that blamed ukraine for doing that, not russia. it should be noted that almost the whole republican party and most of the conservative media went for that hook line even though it was russian disinformation designed to get them off the hook by disguising their own rule and blaming it on somebody else. right? everybody ran along with that, it was really ukraine, you were playing the russian disinformation game. but they are saying that he was part of the kremlin's effort to cover the track of what they did in 2016. but the other assertion that they make their, which a brand-new assertion that we've never have from the u.s. government before about what happened in 2016, they did not mean to include that today. but they did.
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what they just disclosed about what happened in 2016 was, i think, you would call it collusion. the trump campaign chairman was paul manafort, he was recently pardoned by donald trump. he was described in the report as having a shared polling data, internal campaign data to this guy paul manafort konstantin kilimnik during the summer of 2016 while they were working to try to influence the election to help trump. why did paul manafort give konstantin kilimnik that secret polling data in the summer of 2016? we don't know. at least we didn't know. the mueller team didn't explain. they described him as associated with russian intelligence. but they never said why paul manafort was giving a campaign to this guy associated with the russian intelligence. that is how mueller left it.
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and then the senate intelligence committee looked at it too and they couldn't explain, and they went further in describing konstantin kilimnik bluntly as a intelligence officer. they said that he was associated with russian intelligence, we but they say that he is just a russian officer. as to why trump's campaign chair was giving a russian intelligence officer sensitive internal polling data during the campaign, the intelligence committee said that they couldn't tell. quote on numerous occasions they sought to secretly share information with konstantin kilimnik the, committee was unable to determine why paul manafort shared to data with konstantin kilimnik or with whom konstantin kilimnik further share that information. the committee had limited insight into konstantin kilimnik communication with paul manafort and that the communication between konstantin kilimnik and other
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individuals was unclear. in other words, these guys all hughes encrypted language, so we don't have any visibility. we don't know what konstantin kilimnik did when the trump campaign gave him their secret internal information, we don't know who he passed it on to, because we don't have any visibility visibility. that is what they are saying. but now currently we know. and i don't know why the biden administration chose to disclose this today. this was not really the subject on their announcement today. but the biden administration through this sanctions-less announced that konstantin kilimnik is under a diamond in this country, there is a 250,000 dollar reward for him, he is newly-sanctioned now for his role in the kremlin 2020 russian interference, but by the way, we also figured out what was going on there between him and the trump campaign back
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in 2016. during the 2016 u.s. presidential election he provided the russian intelligence services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy. we had known before that the trump campaign gave it to him, we had never before known what he had done. but now we know. the trump campaign chairman gave a russian intelligence officer, the trump campaign internal strategy and pulling data. and then he gave it to his bosses in the russian intelligence agency. and that presumably must have been very helpful to the russian intelligence agency in their contemporaneous effort to target their attacks on our election to the maximum benefit of candidate donald trump. russian intelligence attacked us in 2016 to help the trump campaign win that election. we now know that the trump campaign secretly gave their own data to russian intelligence in the middle of that attack, which again
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presumably, helped the russian effort. >> as a new york times puts it in their new story that was just posted tonight quote, the revelation made public in a document announcing new sanctions against russia established for the first time that there was a direct pipeline from the trump campaign, to russian spies, at a time when the kremlin was engaged in a covert effort to sabotage the 2016 presidential election. having the polling data would have allowed russia to better understand the trump campaign strategy, including where the campaign was fork focusing resources, at a time when the russian government was carrying out its own efforts to undermine trump's opponent. what's the definition of collusion again? not just passively benefiting from somebody else is crime, but actively helping them committed? is that what we call collusion? tell me more about how the whole russia thing is a hoax.
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it has been a long here. it has been a long six years. the biden administration statement today on these new sanctions says this, it's as quote, we will target russian leaders officials intelligence services and our proxies that attempted to interfere in the electoral process or subvert u.s. democracy. the statement says quote, this is the start of a new campaign against russian malign behavior. the new campaign indeed. definitely a new approach. but one that also includes apparently, ripping the lid off of what they did and attacking us and who in the united states they got direct material from. joining us now is new york's time reporter who has been covering the story. mike it is great to see you, thank you for making time to be with us tonight.
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>> thank you for having me. >> first let me just ask you if i got any of that wrong? i thought it was helpful in your story, explaining how the story has advanced. the naming of konstantin kilimnik, naming his associates, naming the russian associate officers and the final piece of it falling into it. that i get any of that wrong in my explaining of it? >> no, you got it right. this is a big development from the collusion of the past few years. two people that have really looked at that issue. because he has been, konstantin kilimnik, that link, that weird, odd center, or nexus is a better word for it of russia and the trump campaign. and slowly but surely, as you were laying out, whether it was mueller, the intel community today, we have chipped away --
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you know, at what was really going on there, and we learned a little more. there's still a lot that we don't know. >> i'm stuck by the way they described why they didn't know what konstantin kilimnik had done with that data. they said basically, we don't know what his communications are, they implied that he was using communication security and implying that he was using encrypted channels,, and so therefore, it was an knowable what he had done with the information. the u.s. government now can assert that they know what konstantin kilimnik did with that information, does that mean that they have developed new information, or that some part of the biden administration is willing to disclose this information, when under the previous president, even though they knew it, they weren't willing to share it even with the intelligence community? how new is this?
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what kind of capability it does it reflect? >> i think you're hitting on the most important question here. the thing that i really want to know which is, when did the u.s. government figure this out? is it something that they have known for years? that would put it back during the trump administration. or is that something that was recently developed? we know that the trump administration officials were very hesitant to do anything on russia because of the way of trump's posture and anger on this issue. so where did this come from? when did this change? you know, i was looking at statements earlier from folks like andrew weiss, it is clear that the mueller folks did not know about this. but when did this come up? and how did it come up? was it the fbi continuing to investigate konstantin kilimnik, even after the prosecution of
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2018 and 2019, under trump, when trump didn't want any of this stuff going on? to understand that would give us a greater sense of what this intelligence is? how old it is, and obviously it is important. >> mike, have you ever gotten any clear sense throughout this whole saga, since we've all been looking at this question for so long, have you ever had any clear sense of what exactly was in that data? what exactly was communicated, paul manafort had the information about information and polling, he directed him to share it with konstantin kilimnik, they say that on multiple occasions he wanted to convey internal trump data to konstantin kilimnik, have we ever had any clear view of what they gave them? the reason that is important because you want to know how valuable it would've been to
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russian intelligence in targeting their tax. >> the past has shown that some of the polling data was publicly available and rick gates putting out a statement saying that this information, there was nothing really significant in what was being passed too konstantin kilimnik. i understand why we focus on what was it that was passed in this channel, because it is the one thing that we know was passed. but what i think we need to look at is that there was a channel. there was a line that went from the trump campaign to russian intelligence. now maybe the trump campaign did not fully appreciate that. maybe the information that went wasn't that significant. but we know that this channel existed. some would say, it is hard to believe that this is the only
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thing that moved through that channel, given the amount of back and forth that manafort had with kilimnik. i think the existence of the channel is more important than what we know was passed in the channel. >> new york times reporter michael schmidt, the way this news came up to us today in an announcement about 2020 election interference, this was about 2016, this implies that they're trying to get this out there, in part, because they're trying to put the spotlight on something -- at least the start of an answer to a key question. mike, thank you for being with us tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> we have much more ahead tonight, including a few developing stories that we are following tonight both in minneapolis and in chicago, live report, stay with us. live report, stay with us. live report, stay with us. ♪♪
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afternoon release the body camera footage that shows a police officer shooting and killing a 13 year old boy,
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named adam toledo. the shooting happened a couple of weeks ago this footage was released to the public today. the delay in the release of the video was at the request of the family. the incident happened march 29th about 2:30 in the morning, they responded to a reported gunfire. they say that when they arrived, they sought to mail's standing in an alley, one of the man's was a 21-year-old he was arrested by police that night, he has been charged with illegally carrying and firing the gun that brought police to the scene that night. but the other mailed to police on the scene was a kid, a 13 year old, adam toledo. the police arrived at the alley, he ran, the body camera released today shows that a police officer chased after him and shouted at adam toledo to show his hands. he tells him to quote, drop it. at that point, toledo appears to turn around and it all
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happens very quickly, but he begins to raise his hands towards his shoulders, and in the video he does not appear to be holding any weapon, and in that moment, less than a second later the officer shoots adam toledo in the chest, the boy falls to the ground, the officer asks him repeatedly where he is shot. he calls for an ambulance, tries to revive him, and adam is pronounced dead. police say that he recovered a gun near where adam toledo was killed, the same gun fired, that brought places scene that night. another ankle from the body camera footage from after the shooting shows a gun line behind the fence where adam was shot. again, in the moment before the shooting, he does not appear to be holding any weapon or anything. he appears to be surrendering with his empty hands in the air as the officer told him to do. i've debated whether or not to do this but i am going to show you the body camera footage, i
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want to warn you that it is disturbing to watch, i had to stop what i was doing today after seeing it. but it is being released for reason, it is part of the accountability process here. therefore, i think you should see it if you can bear it. if you know that you can't, now is the time to hit pause or take a break. the beginning of the video that i'm going to show you here doesn't have any sound, so don't worry, there's nothing wrong you can't hear anything. there is no sound at the beginning, you will see the officer running down an alley, i am not going to show you the exact moment where adam toledo is shot. but i will let the audio continue to play on the video after the shot is fired and you will hear the police off the circle for an ambulance. here we go. this is the body camera foliage released tonight of 13 adam toledo being shot and killed by police in chicago, over two weeks ago. >> stop, stop. show me your hands, drop it.
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shots fired, get an ambulance here now. look at me. look at me. where you shot? i need an ambulance i have a gunshot victim. i >> shots fired by the police. not that video has been released tonight, that officers attorney has released a lengthy statement it says in part, the officer was faced with a life-threatening and deadly force situation, all prior attempts to de-escalate and gain compliance with all of the officers lawful orders had failed. the mayor chicago called the video excruciating to watch, she said quote, simply put, we
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have failed adam. there is a small protest ongoing outside the police department, this evening. and this incident, in chicago, is happening at the same time that people in the city of brooklyn center minnesota are out in the street for a six night, mourning the death of daunte wright, who was shot and killed by a police officer during a traffic stop. he was unarmed at the time of his killing. the officer who shot and killed him announced that she attended to tase him, but then she shot him with her pistol. that officer has not been charged with second degree manslaughter, she had her first pretrial hearing and she is out on bail. after another tense night of vigils and marches, there are demonstrators in considerable numbers out in the streets again tonight, there are gathered in front of the now heavily fortified police station in minnesota. again, as i've mentioned, demonstrators starting to gather at the chicago police
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department, as well. i should tell you in brooklyn center minnesota there is a curfew in effect, it begins at 10:00, we do have reporters on standby, and we will bring you more as the situation develops. more ahead tonight, stay with us. up at 2:00am again?
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good to see everyone. i, i've come to afghanistan today because, it was important to me and important to president biden. to convey in-person america's commitment to and injuring partnership with afghanistan and the afghan people. >> secretary of state anthony blinken on his surprise visit to kabul today, the day after
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president biden announced at all u.s. troops will leave that country by september 11th this year. and as you've heard him say there, him showing up in kabul today was a way -- away for the biden administration to demonstrate, to show, an american ongoing commitment to afghanistan, and enduring commitment even if our military presence is coming to an end. and for one thing this is a well organized rollout of a major foreign policy change, right? also watching this play out there was a little bit like, remember diplomacy? i remember that. and it comes on a day where there is this a very or major foreign policy move, this big show against russia. the planned expulsion of russian diplomats from the united states in response to russia's responsibility on the solar winds attack and its interference in the 2020 u.s.
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elections. it's interesting, in some ways -- at the same time it is conciliatory in many ways. after the big sanctions announcement this morning, president biden this afternoon delivered remarks on russia that were conciliatory. in what has become a catchphrase whenever they talk about russia he says today that russia wants a stable and predictable relationship with russia. we also got word today that the u.s. navy has called off a plan to send to deploy or through the black sea on the coast of russia and ukraine. it would've been seen as a show of support for ukraine as russia continues its big menacing military buildup on the ukrainian bill border. we get this big show on the terms of the sanctions, a speech, and then a military decision to remove something that would've been a show of support for ukraine, also potentially a provocation to russia.
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what is the balance that the biden administration is trying to strike here? are they doing it well? joining us now is the u.s. ambassador to russia during the biden administration, he has talked about the things for a number of year, usually through the trump of how the trump administration was growing stuff. mister ambassador, thank you so much for your time today. >> glad to be here, rachel. >> do you see a sort of effort at balance here? i feel like on russia specifically, we are seeing a shove would be sanctions. we also saw that the biden administration is transparent on the issue of potential bounties on u.s. service members, and say that we actually don't feel like the intelligence is solid enough on that to act. we saw him give a speech that was respectful towards vladimir putin and talking about wanting to meet but wanting to be firm when they do something wrong. and now we see them pulling off this plan, it seems like a
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calibrated system, a set of actions. >> absolutely. it is called a strategy, it is called a policy towards russia, and whether you agree or not it is very clear i think you captured it very eloquently, they want to say to vladimir putin, i don't want to be your friend, you know, president biden didn't say i look forward to seeing my good friend vladimir, he didn't say that. but he did say that we are going to be for, when you mess around with us, especially with our sovereignty, and at the same time, we are willing to engage with you on issues of mutual interest. i think they were trying to send a signal to moscow, that they wanted to put a period to the previous period. everything to do today was a response to the trump era, they said that we are going to push sanctions, you call that diplomats, i call that intelligence agents that were
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kicked out. we're also willing to engage -- particularly on strategic stability, contain engage at the same time. >> what do you make of the seriousness of the sanctions that were announced today? one of the things that i feel not very qualify to assess is these new financial sanctions? u.s. persons are barred from buying russian government bonds, and there are few tens of billions of dollars worth of bonds that are out there that have been attractive to some investors, but you are propping the russian government by doing that. will those financial sanctions by, or is it is symbolic measure, a token measure, that symbolizes something up more serious will come next if there is escalation? >> i think the sanctions today, all of them, including that one, was serious. but not too serious. in fact, president biden said it himself, it was
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proportionate to what they thought that the russians, vladimir putin did again, during the trump administration. they could've done a lot more. they didn't sanction the banks, they didn't go after those people close to putin, that some people wanted them to do. and in his remarks today he made it very clear that we can escalate, but we are trying to be proportionate now so that we may engage later. >> i ambassador mcfaul, i just have to ask about what you make of the biden administration making this disclosure today in sanction statements that was really about russian sanctions from the russian interference, but they gave us a clear indication that in 2016, when the chairman gave internal poll data to konstantin kilimnik, this guy who is under indictment in the united states, he turned right around and give that to russian intelligence.
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so the russian intelligence service was given internal trump campaign polling data while they were mounting their effort to try to get trump elected in 2016. what do you make of that revelation, that disclosure by the biden administration? >> rachel, you and i have speculated about these things for years and years. today, we're connecting some dots. i really appreciate it. that another important mechanism for pushing back on vladimir putin is transparency. it is disinformation, it's staying that yes we know -- no more of this dancing around the intelligence. i think it is a very powerful tool, i applaud the biden administration for doing it and i hope that it is not the last time that they use information to push back on this horrible behavior that they did before. i hope that it will determine the future from thinking about doing those things the next time around, the next electoral
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cycle. >> u.s. ambassador to russia mcfaul, thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> all right more head, stay with us. me. >> all right more head, stay with us.
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that executive order had a very explicit order it gave them till march 15th to make a decision on whether there ought to be a mask rule in the workplace. march 15th was the deadline. it is now april 15th. which means that we are a whole month after that deadline. where is it? we contacted the department of labor, which they are part and they told us this, the secretary of labor review the materials, meaning the proposed masks in the workplace, and determined that they should be updated to reflect the scientific state of the disease. they have ordered a rapid update -- and the variant. he believes that this is the best way to proceed. okay. the clock is ticking. people all over the country are going to work in mask-less environment today. and even more will be tomorrow. and this role could make a big difference on that front.
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