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thank you so much for letting us into your homes during these still extraordinary times. we're grateful. "the beat" with ari melber starts right now. >> welcome to "the beat." we're tracking several developments, including the feds now have matt gaetz cell phone. also tonight president biden making a major foreign policy shift. the latest a compelling day in the chauvin murder trial. but we begin with breaking news out of minnesota. today minnesota authorities indicted police officer kim potter for killing daunte wright during a traffic stop. police say she accidentally fired her gun instead of a taser. but prosecutors say that act was criminal negligence, charging her with manslaughter.
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that's why you are looking at her mug shot tonight. this indictment is unusually fast for a police-involved shooting. three days after the original incident. in even high-profile cases in police shootings, the announcement of any potential charges can take months and most of the time the announcement ends for no charges. that was the case just yesterday in a different story with no charges for the officer who shot jacob blake as he was walking away. they shot him in the back. and that was yesterday 135 days after that original incident. or take the highly controversial shooting of breonna taylor. you may have heard about her case. it got much national attention and pressure. it took 194 days for that announcement. in that case, again, it was no charges. as a matter of fact and recent history, this is measurably swift action. and for charging an officer in the killing of a black american, that is a measurable change from
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the usual. that's the news tonight. and you don't have to take a newscaster's word for it either. one of the leading civil rights advocates who has been working these cases for years, working cases where there may not be video, is speaking out today on the long road to this very action. crump represent it is wright and floyd families whose cases are upending police reform in minnesota and beyond. >> the sacrifices of what she has given and how trayvon martin has propelled the notion that black lives matter and that we should get equal justice under the law is the reason why on this day in 2021 in less than a week, reverend al, in less than a week the district attorney
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made the decision that we will charge this officer and the family of daunte wright will get to have their day in court. >> their day in court. now, that reference to a day in court is key because an indictment is still a long way from a full trial and then a verdict, as crump was emphasizing. and mr. crump joins us later on tonight's program. so this is some change. now, whether this change reflects full and equal justice remains up for debate. on the ground of minnesota, the debate continues. the protests continues. the officials extended a peacetime emergency for 30 days there. there were also clashes with police last night. officers deploying pepper spray and flash bombs to clear the scene after what was stated as a 10:00 p.m. curfew. 60 people arrested.
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there were silence protests held nearby. there are also at this time 3,000 national guard troops that remain deployed there. i want to begin our coverage with civil rights attorney and professor with rutgers university. welcome to you both. brittney, we have covered so many of these stories. you have been a guest of ours for as long as we have been doing the news on the beat. i'm curious your view on mr. crump's emphasis that however much work is left undone this case this week seems to be proceeding differently than so many of the other horrific ones. >> look, i think there is reason and cause to be optimistic by the fact that they have not delayed due process here and that, in fact, they have indicted this officer. i do have questions about the charges. i think that there is a concession of the sort of
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accidental nature of this that i find to be quite troubling. not because we know the officer's intent but rather because it's strange credit duality that one who is professional and who is on the job longer than daunte wright was alive doesn't know the difference between a gun and a taser. and so i think we have to begin to think about impact and not just intent here. and more than that, i think the concern becomes we're not actually in this simply for officers to be tried swiftly. we're trying to create a system in which black people don't get killed through routine encounters with law enforcement. so the real question becomes not whether they charge officers swiftly but rather what is falling down in the way that policing happens in this country that routine encounters become the pretext for these awful, tragic, heinous incidents between law enforcement and citizens?
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>> yeah. kristin, i'm curious your view on the same set of issues, and we are keeping an eye on the gatherings there. we are looking at some peaceful gatherings here in brooklyn center, minnesota. gatherings, prayers, protests, but your view on all of the above. >> yeah. i agree with brittney. for the second degree manslaughter, this is the exact charge that most legal observers expected. but second degree manslaughter, homicide caused by negligence or recklessness, that includes the accidental shooting. but what's more infuriating here for so many is that in announcing this charge, the county attorney is implicitly clearing potter of intentionally shooting that young man, young mr. wright or shooting him out of rage or having a depraved mind or any of the other elements that would implicate a higher charge. maybe murder 2, all of which
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carry a more significant consequence. as you eluded to, ari, this comes after a three-day investigationment could it have the thoroughness and completeness that is deserved by this young victim? you know, and, so, i want to end by saying that, you know, more significant charges could later be added. but certainly i would agree with brittney on all of those points. >> the mayor also spoke out again. let's take a little bit of listen to the mayor. >> i share our community's anger and sadness and shock. now, the eyes of the world are watching brooklyn center. and i urge you to protest peacefully and without violence. let us show the best of our community.
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and to the wright family, i know that there is nothing i can say or do that will bring daunte back. or ease your grief. >> that's one local official speaking out today. we are joined by another, minnesota state representative john thompson. our panel is still with us and we'll also be going out to the field as we fellow all this. your response, along with what i think you may have heard from some of our panelists, which is discussing how this is a faster indictment than many other cases, but concerns about whether this is the highest charge that will come. your view on that and whatever else you can tell us about what your community is going through tonight. >> our community will remember the killing of justine demaud in minneapolis, minnesota when there was an african-american officer who killed this caucasian woman.
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and he actually had the same argument. it was a mistake. he was charged with murder and ultimately sentenced to 12 years. it was no manslaughter charges. so what we have here is two different judicial systems. a judicial system for white officers and a judicial system for black officers. but i was taught if it looks like a duck, quakes like a duck, nine times out of ten it's a duck. and racism is engrained in our judicial system. >> yeah. i appreciate your candor. you're straightforward. i think a lot of people understand what you are seeing. representative, when you look at this situation, people around the country, as i think is well known, like to sometimes say, well, maybe there is racism but, quote, it's over there. it's somewhere else. it's down south. or it's in that other neighborhood. or it's in that other school. minnesota is a blue state for
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the most part, a state with some diversity, to be sure. and, yet, this issue that you raise, which is bigger than any election, is the structural racism that's been embedded in the criminal system, the justice system, the courts, the bail system, the prison system, things we have been covering here. and i know you have been working on them for a long time. how do you begin to fix it? you have some people in office. you have diverse leadership even in the town here and yet? >> you know, the funny thing is july 5th of 2016 i stood outside of a store and i talked to my friend with regard to the murder of sterling in baton rouge, louisiana. we were so numb to this killing. like i walked in the store and i remember saying to him, nothing is going to happen to this police officer. and the very next day, my friend was murdered by a falcon heights
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police officer. >> i have to check. i think we all lost audio. representative, i'm only interrupting for technical -- sorry, for very technical reasons. i believe we all lost your audio a little bit. but i do know you were speaking about your history with why you went into office. we lost some of what you said. >> i said that we talked about sterling and then the very next day, july 6th, my friend was murdered. and, so, a lot of people -- you know, and i stood out and was very loud spoken about police involved killings. they called me a protesters, an
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agitator, antifa, domestic terrorist. so i decided to be the change i wanted to be in my community. so i put my name on the ballot and now i'm a minnesota legislator and i still get treated the same way i did as an activist. but i also know that we can no longer ask for change. we have to create 10,000 more john thompsons and we have to be the change we want to see in our communities. we don't need another rapper in our community. we need a lot of lawmakers, lawyers, mental health providers, teachers, students and i'm not ashamed to say we need black people to step up to the plate because we failed george floyd and we failed daunte. we failed them because we have allowed these law enforcement agencies all across the united states to infiltrate our legislative bodies and fill these stations with legislation that allows them to get away
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with murder. and, so, i think that what we're going to have to do is reset -- the police departments around going anywhere, so the defund the police isn't going to go any where. but we can create an atmosphere where bad police officers are not allowed to flourish in our state. listen, i just want to share one thing with you. we have an officer here in this state with 56 police-involved incidents, 56 complaints. 11 successful lawsuits and 3 police-involved shootings he's been a part of. in the entire minneapolis police officer association appointed him as their union president. then he goes on to be promoted as sergeant. when i say that racism is engrained, like the proud boys, the oath keepers, this guy that i'm talking about was also a member of the minnesota heat, which is a known white supremist
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biker gang. >> yeah. let me -- i'm going to jump in because i want to get brittney in before i run out of time. i appreciate all those points. many pointed out that ms. potter was also a union leader before this. your thoughts, brittney? >> so i appreciate you, representative, very much. i want to slightly disagree with you on one thing. the black community is not to blame for the things that have happened to us. that is solely the fault of white supremacists and their brazen fight for power. i believe in our communities. i believe in moments. i'm so happy that you came out of activist spaces. i'm tired of people lecturing black people and telling us that our job is to be peaceful, to be kind, to not express rage. i'm not advocating violence, but we never are. people only ever see our violence. they don't see or appreciate the violence that is done to us. so our people always rise up. we always fight back. and right now we are in the
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battle for the soul of this country. and whether or not white people are going to have the reckoning that they need to have about what it means to become people of the future and not people enamored with past glory as a dominance of white supremacy. this is about white fear and white anger over the fact that the country's demographic is changing. so they are using the law and using the state to terrorize our communities. that has to change. and it doesn't matter if no other black person ever becomes an attorney, ever becomes a mayor, ever runs for government. the argument that black excellence is the corrective to white violence is part of the problem. black people deserve dignity simply because we exist, simply because we are human beings. it is the fact that we get up every day and fight for better conditions. just means that we're doing our job as people who are citizens of this country and members of the body politic. but that is not the lever of whether we deserve dignity when we are encountering law
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enforcement. >> and i appreciate the point there that brittney is making that this is fundamental human rights that nothing should have to be asked for or fought for if it is going to be a fair system. representative, because of the nature of this, we'll call it colloquy, not a debate. i'll give you a final response, but i am over on time, sure. >> the entire united states of america is watching the state that i live in right now, so i'm calling on our legislative body to take bold steps to assure that we put pieces into legislation that hold these officers accountable. i propose today we end all budget negotiations until we really have a budget that says black lives matter in this state, and i stand on that for the rest of my life. and i want to say thank you for having me. >> yeah. thank you for being here, representative thompson, professor cooper and kristin fenton who has been with us on more than one story. less time for you today, but we will give you another day.
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i appreciate your insights and what you care about tonight as people reflect on this. we have our shortest break. it's 30 seconds. when we come back, the other big story in washington, the feds seizing republican matt gaetz cell phone. the reporter who broke the story is here in 30 seconds. s. there's no such thing as too many adventures... or too many unforgettable moments. there will never be too many stories to write... or too many memories to make. but when it comes to a vehicle that will be there for it all. there's only one. jeep. welcome back to "the beat." there is a lot going on. i turn to a big different story
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with a straightforward question. how serious is this federal sex trafficking probe involving republican congressman matt gaetz? here's one big indicator. the feds have his iphone. it's no small matter for the justice department to seize the phone of an elected member of a co-equal branch of government. "politico" reporting that's what they have done and dating it all the way back to the winter with regards the congressman was telling people about himself. gaetz deied all wrongdoing. they are probingbahamas, which a young woman key to the investigation, who was 18 at the time of that trip. meanwhile, there may be new heat on gaetz given indications his indicted ally is cooperating with investigators and accusing gaets of offering, quote, cash for gifts in exchange for sex. we are joined by mark ka pew toe, senior reporter for "politico" who broke this very story about the feds getting
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gaetz's cell phone and joe walsh, a friend of ours and national affairs correspondent for "the nation." mark, what did you find in your reporting? >> well, what you said. we also have more details on the bahamas trip, who went along. there were two private planes. the commercial plane and at least five women who went along on the trip. one of the women who went on the trip we spoke to that there was no prostitution that happened. that's what investigators are investigating in relation to the bahamas trip. but she also said everyone was 18 or older. that has particular salience in the case of this teen who is the alleged victim of sex trafficking by gaetz's ally and let's just probably say former friend joel greenberg, the local florida county tax collector, who is charged with that act in july or back in august. yes, july. excuse me.
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the dates are whooshing around in my head. that's the big 10,000 foot view of what we were able to uncover. the phone thing was of particular salience. >> yeah. it's a big problem for matt gaetz if the feds got his phone and that went in to get cleared through a judge, that kind of surveillance. mark, this story has really accelerated with the reporting of the new york times and your reporting in "politico." i don't know if you will answer this question, but i'm going to ask it. does your reporting reflect that matt gaetz may have a legal/criminal problem or does your reporting at this point reflect a lot of stuff around him that the feds are looking at but that he may not be in things that are chargeable? >> well, i'm going to dodge this a bit. it depends on how you define problem. when the federal government is seizing your phone, you got a problem. when your allies are saying, hey, yeah, maybe he had sex with her, but it was when she was
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18.5. when you are measuring people's ages in fractions, that's a problem. is he going to be indicted? that's a whole other matter. the teen or former teen who is now 21, the question is what has she said to the federal government, if anything. and what evidence is there that she can back up or shed more light on. then obviously there is the joel greenberg matter that he might have some problems as a witness against gaetz. this is a guy who not only had sex with a 17-year-old but falsely smeared a report. >> joan, take a listen to republican steve scalise on all this. >> you know, we have heard a lot of stories. i mean, obviously i have read the media reports, but there has been nothing that we have seen yet from the department of justice. if something is going on, obviously we'll find out about it. you know, right now it's hard to speculate on rumors.
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but, you know, if something really formal happened from justice, we would, of course, we act and take action. >> joan? >> well, seizing his phone is a little bit formal. i mean, that's really, as mark said, never a good sign. i do get the problems with greenberg as a star witness against gaetz. but it's still very intriguing what the times reported that he is cooperating. and his lawyer had a weird comment in the times story, something like i'm sure matt gaetz is not going to be very comfortable today. so that was a little bit of a shot across the bow. no real idea what it means. it is really not legal terminology. but there is -- it's not like they're clearly sticking together. and there are a lot of people involved with this. so, you know, there is just -- there are a lot of witnesses, frankly. and i think we're going to learn a lot more. >> and, joan, what do you think of something we have touched on,
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which is that matt gaetz rose to prominence chiefly through fox news and being a very loud donald trump supporters and he's not getting much help from either of those parts of the right wing movement right now. >> no, not fox, not trump and not ron desantis, who he's very close to during desantis' campaigns. he won't talk about him either. kevin mccarthy won't talk about him. a lot of former allies are not there for him. again, you know, we have to consider if innocence, these are tea leaves, these are not legal facts. but when your friends start, you know, not commenting on you, donald trump wouldn't even see him, people are hearing bad things. people are hearing more things than i'm hearing. so, you know, i don't think it looks good for him. that's probably a little bit of wishful thinking because, you know, i like to believe in karma and his shouldn't be good.
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>> yeah. well, we'll see. i mean, every time we report the case we're clear about he's denied all allegations. he hasn't been indicted for anything. it is not like trump is busy. >> no. no, he's not. i mean, i could probably go see him. >> you could take a meeting in florida. >> sure, yeah. so why he couldn't find the time for poor matt, i don't know. but it's not good. it's not a good thing. >> mark? >> yeah. important to point out that a number of people in trump's orbit have on the record denied that. i don't want to throw shade on the reporter or the report, but i think we have to remember this. a lot of the people who surrounded the president both in the white house -- or the former president, donald trump, in the white house and his campaign for vipers. there was a book called "team of viper" written by one of the staffers about how they all stab
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each other in the back. and donald trump takes matt gaetz's call. when matt gaetz wanted to have a pardon for roger stone, he talked to the president directly about it. matt gaetz is not going to former white house staff and trump staff to get an appointment with donald trump. if he wants an appointment with donald trump, he'll call him up. i find it doubtful that gaetz asked the white house staff to be pardoned and i found it doubtful he went to the mar-a-lago staff that said, hey, you people who hate me, can you help me see the president? i think gaetz realizes he's a bit toxic right now. >> briefly, mark, it sounds like shade or not, it sounds like you are questioning the premise of some of those reports that put their stock, including new york times on staff-level conversations because you are
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saying in your reporting that's not the nature of the relationship between these two individuals. >> i'm doubting the honesty of the sources of the people that hate matt gaetz. as we have seen over the years a lot of people who surround the president lie. >> but the president does have access. >> go ahead, joan. >> he can put out a statement. he did put out a statement around the pardon story. it was not particularly warm. he's not issuing statements to talk about what a raw deal his buddy matt gaetz is getting. you know, you have better sources than i do, mark, so i prefer you on that. >> well, i appreciate -- yeah. i appreciate the nuance, and i think you're both gesturing on the fact that both things could be true. there could be a bunch of liars issuing lying anonymous quotes that create stories, quote, unquote. and there could also be donald trump icing ultimate gaetz. briefly, mark, and then i got to go. >> well, i just think just
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remember there is a lot of behavior that a lot of people describe as creepy as come out about matt gaetz. this is still a developing story. so there is not going to be a lot of rush for people to surround this one. just like we're careful about saying, these are allegations. what are the allegations? that's one of the reasons you're seeing that. >> right. >> yeah. it's a doosy. the feds have the phone and we'll keep tracking it. fitting in a break, we have a lot more tonight. president biden making a big announcement on foreign policy. we have that for you. america's longest war. we're also keeping an eye on minnesota, where this officer was newly charged with manslaughter. and we will go inside the chauvin murder trial, the defense calling a controversial expert. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪
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minnesota officer kim potter indicted for manslaughter today. as we have covered, it is an unusually swift charge. it comes amidst ongoing protests over the killing of daunte wright. his attorney represented by attorney ben crump, who also represents george floyd's family and joins us momentarily. just about ten miles away, lawyers for former officer chauvin were trying to poke holes and add doubt to the prosecution's murder case which has argued what you see is what happened that chauvin's knee
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only killed floyd. they argue that he died because of other factors, including heart disease and drugs. >> in my opinion, mr. floyd had a sudden cardiac arrhythmia or cardiac arrhythmia due to his atherosclerotic heart disease. you can write that down multiple different ways. during his restraint and subdual and restraint by the police. and then his significant contributory conditions would be, since i have already put the heart disease in part one, he would have the toxicology, the fentanyl and methamphetamine. >> civil rights attorney ben crump representing the floyd family joins me now. i know these are busy and also difficult times for you and your
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clients. thank you for making time for us tonight, sir. >> thank you for having me, ari. >> yes, sir. we have been covering the trial many days. we went voluminously through the prosecution case. your response to some of what we just heard there from the defense witness? >> it's a desperate attempt to try to distract us from what we saw in that video, ari. the fact that i believe at one point they said the car exhaust was what killed george floyd. all this is is something to try to make us look away and not focus on what happened in that video and that video makes it clear what killed george floyd was an overdose of excessive force by officer derek chauvin's knee being on his neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. >> the other thing that's come up is different video.
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and this may be less familiar for some viewers. again, i always mention to folks, you want to understand the full trial, you have to see the full trial on both sides of the evidence. this is a 2019 video of mr. floyd. so not from that fateful day. i want to play it. this is the first time we're playing it on "the beat" and get your response as a floyd family representative to how the defense has been using this. let's take a look. >> he keeps moving his hands around. he won't listen to what i have to say. >> put your hands on top of your head. >> put them on your head. >> put them on top of your head. open your mouth. spit out what you got. spit out what you got. i'm going to tase you. >> don't jerk away from me. >> put your hands behind you. >> okay. slowly come on out. put your hand on your head. >> oh, man. okay.
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relax, then. you're not going to get beat up or nothing if you just follow what we're asking you to do. >> now, mr. crump, the defense is using this. the court has ruled it admissible, meaning whether people agree or not it is admissible and relevant to some degree. although, it is not the day of the incident. your response? >> i think it is completely irrelevant. they are still trying to explain away that derek chauvin didn't give any consideration, any professionalism or any humanity to george floyd as he was facedown and restrained and handcuffed. to say that he resisted years
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ago, which i don't see resistance there, the white house insurrection on january 6th, 2021, that was resisting law-abiding authority. i think george floyd at all times acted in a way that was with a person who did not feel he should be arrested but in no way posed a threat of violence in any way to the officers, especially, ari, when they get him facedown that he assisted in going to the ground. you look at the entire video of george floyd, you will see he was very compliant with the law enforcement. he just did not want to get put in the back of the police car because in his size and that he was claustrophobic. there was one point that he asked, could you bring a bigger
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vehicle? >> mr. crump, the other thing i wanted to ask you about, and i think viewers know because i mentioned it in our broadcast, you do this work. you have been doing it for a long time, the civil rights work. sometimes there aren't videos or national media attention. sometimes there aren't big, famous people involved. it is not our job here to pre-judge what will happen in the daunte wright killing, in the potter indictment. but seeing what you said earlier today, what are your reflections here about what may be, abeit tragic in the change of the process, of the speed in some of these cases. your reflections tonight? >> yeah. ari, i was at reverend al's convention having a panel with the mothers of the movement.
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and we found out the news that the officer was going to be charged in the killing of daunte wright and it was profound because when you really think about it, ari, it was the blood of their children who helped us get to this point in america, because none of them got due process. trayvon was the only one who had his killer arrested and had to come to face the evidence in court in the court of law. these other mothers never got their day in court. so i want to believe in my heart that we're starting to progress now because we saw in george floyd the officers were charged within a week. now we see in daunte wright, the officers charged in a week, hopefully we can get to that point where we have equal justice under the law where marginalized minorities who are killed by police can get equal
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justice as our white brothers and sisters. >> yeah. understood. and we're living through history. and you have obviously been leading the charge through history along with, as you mentioned, those clients of yours who are human beings, who lost other human beings. nothing brings them back. as you say whether finally the justice system addresses any of that. so ben crump on more than one story tonight, thank you for your time, sir. >> hey, thank you, brother. i really appreciate you covering these matters. >> yes, sir. thank you. we're going to fit in a break. what else do we have? well, foreign policy. we haven't had time to hit it yet. but the president says he's ending america's longest war. we have that story. and corporations putting heat on, of all people, their one-time friend and advocate mitch mcconnell. michelle goldberg is here to break it all down, why he's feeling heat from all sides when we return. the rx crafted by lexus.
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georgia's crackdown on voting rights is proving costly with the state. now hundreds of ceos with a formal push against these kind of crackdowns on voting. heavy hitters including amazon, starbucks involved including as well warren buffet, one of the richest people in the world. georgia's republican governor is defiant while the law restricts people can't get food and water. kemp is making the rounds and going ahead and agreeing with a conservative pundit saying it is okay because people can pack or order food. >> people can bring their own water, their own food. that's accurate, right? >> yeah, absolutely. they can order a pizza. they can order grubhub or uber eats. >> they're your friend when your state is trying to suppress your
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right to vote. politicians have been caught off guard by how many of these corporations are lining up against these measures. mitch cconnell and ted cruz have been riding the woke corporations. it is not that corporations are suddenly going far left. that hery main capitalistic forces in american life. the issue is the republican party becoming so extreme on issues of voting and human rights that even wall street just wants no part of it. we turn now to michelle goldberg. welcome. how are you? >> good. how are you? >> i'm great. i want to dig into this piece of it. ted cruz was also complaining about this. take a listen. >> we have seen the rise of the woke corporation. these woke corporations have decided to become the political enforcer for democrats in washington. major league baseball should
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have to play by the same rules. and if they're going to play partisan enforcer, they shouldn't expect to see special goodies from washington. >> michelle? >> well, what's so telling about that is the implication is that if they don't stand up for voting rights, then they do deserve special goodies from washington. you know, you don't see among the critics of quote, unquote "woke" corporations any real attempt to reign in corporate power. none of them are signing on to the biden's attempt to raise corporation taxes to pay for infrastructure. it is all about punishing specific corporations that they feel like aren't doing republican bidding even though the idea that corporations have free speech is the idea that ted cruise and others have pontificated on endlessly in other context.
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>> yeah. that's sort of been their thing. and a debate over, say, a national voter holiday, would that be more fair or other big picture ideas seems quite distinct from what many of these companies say they don't want to be anywhere near, which is a view in a country like america that has had such discriminatory history voting by gender, crackdowns on race that have a state like georgia get away with this. >> well, look, what's going on now is such an ugly attempt to subvert democracy to instan sheeuate minority rule in this country in a way that will make it very, very hard going forward for the majority to ever again be able to -- to express its political preferences. and, so, i think that you can't get passed two things. first i think it is very important that this whole initiative was organized and led by black executives who, you
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know, and i think it's something that shows why it is so important that you have diversity at the highest level in corporations even though people on the left can sometimes be a little cynical about the idea that we need a diverse class of millionaires as opposed to, you know, kind of social justice for -- you know, i think it shows why that's important. and it also shows that, again, our political system is not necessarily responsive to the majority of voters. and if republicans have their way will be less and less responsive to the majority of voters. but corporations are. >> yeah. >> corporations need, you know, young people, people in cities all the people that republicans seek to disempower. >> yeah. and they need to have some baseline where they don't seem like they're looking the other way for things that are clearly antihuman rights, which is different than other partisan debates, whatever they may be. always good to see you, michelle. i'm fitting in a break because
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