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again. well this happens to be day 84 of the biden administration, we begin yet again this evening in brooklyn center minnesota. just north of minneapolis. where it is now 10 pm local time, and that curfew has just gone into effect. protesters remain on the streets however, for a third, night as anger and outrage or growing after the deadly police shooting of 20 year old dante wright, right was shot and killed on sunday. when police pulled his car over and tried to arrest him on an outstanding misdemeanor warrant. kim potter, the 26 year veteran officer, who fired that single fatal shot, has resigned. as has brooklyn center police chief tim gannon. he called the shooting accidental after viewing potter's body cam video. which he said indicates she thought she was deploying a taser. and instead, fired one shot with her highly lethal and vastly different 9 mm service
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weapon. that single shot, fatal and now a 20 year old, dante wright, is not alive anymore. this afternoon, the mayor of brooklyn center reacted to officer potter's decision to resign. officer potter's decthe officers the effects, i think, of speaking to one of the things of the community that folks have been out here protesting. i have been calling for, and that is the officer should be relieved of her duties. this case needs to be given to, appointed to the attorney general and so i am calling on the governor to exercise his authority and to move this case for washington county to under the jurisdiction of the attorney general.
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>> dante wright's family also spoke out this afternoon looked on. wright's mother described seeing and speaking to him before he was shot. >> that was the last time that i seen my son. that's the last time that i heard from my son. i have had no explanation since then. >> my nephew was a lovable young man. we his smile. oh lord, the most beautiful smile. you all took that. we >> again, this is all unfolding, about ten miles north of the city center of minneapolis, where former police officer derek chauvin, is of course on trial for the murder of george floyd. this morning, the prosecution rested its case after 11 days of testimony. 38 different witnesses, the defense then began laying out their case, among the witnesses a use of force expert who defended chauvin's actions. >> i felt
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that derek chauvin was justified, it was acting with objective reasonableness. following minneapolis police department policy encourage steroids of line for smith and interactions with mr. floyd. >> the defense also introduced video of floyd's arrest in may 2019. it happened in north minneapolis. and called the emt who responded to that scene. >> were you able to learn that mr. floyd consumed some narcotics that day? >> yes. >> what did he tell you specifically about what narcotics he had taken in when he had taken them? >> he told me that he had been taking multiple, every 20 minutes, and it was a i don't remember if it was a boxier percocet. but it
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was a opioid based. >> also tonight, there are new developments concerning the federal sex trafficking investigation into trump acolyte and florida republican congressman matt gates. the new york times reports that indicted former gates associate joel greenberg, he is cooperating with the feds and quote has been providing investigators with information since last year about an array of topics, including mr. gates activities. joel greenberg disclosed to investigators that he and mr. gates had encounters with women, who were given cash or gifts and engage exchange for sex. one of the authors of this time story, katie benner standing by to join us in a moment. the times is also out with another breaking story, a new yet to be released reports on the insurrection. january six, from the capital police inspector general. quote, capitol police had clear
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advanced warnings about the january 6th attack, then were previously known. including the potential for violence, in which congress itself is the target. but officers were instructed by their leaders not to use their most aggressive tactics to hold off the mob. this report is going to be the subject of a capitol hill hearing on thursday of this week. as you know, one capital police officer died as a result of injuries sustained during the riot. today, the president, members of congress gathered on capitol hill to honor another officer who lost his life defending the u.s. capital. william billy evans served on the hill for 18 years. he was killed april 2nd when a driver rammed his vehicle into a barricade, slamming into evans and another officer. with that, and before we bring in our other guests we want to start in brooklyn center, minnesota, and our correspondent cal perry is live
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with us tonight. he's been watching it all back and forth. cal, and watching you reporting it appears that things have calmed down a bit with the arrival of the curfew. >> yes, absolutely. and i think police slowly ration know that pressure. they started with a cs spray, that chemical spray, that red irritant through the fence. that actually moved out of the compounds, that fenced in area that comprises now the police station here. the moment that really we saw the crowds thinned out, the police backed by national guard i would say about 500 of them just running as fast as they could flat out down this road, arresting a number of people and that is when a lot of people decided that was it to go home. there are basically a handful of protesters left. i would say there's about ten times as much media here as there are protesters and really, brian, just a small group, a handful of people dancing in the middle of the street trying to antagonize the police. but again, 500 to 1000 law enforcement officers completely
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overwhelming the small amount of protesters that were here on the ground tonight. brian. >> cal perry, thank you for that report. a snowy night north of minneapolis this evening. with that, let's bring in our lead out guest this evening. three friends of this broadcast, ashley parker bureau tree for the washington post. katie benner, justice department reporter for the new york times again who's reporting has led the way on the gates scandal and professor melissa murray of nyu law school, she was a law clerk for justice sonia sort of meyer on the bench prior to her nomination to the supreme court and in fact, given the news we are talking about professor, i would like to begin with you. how make the law approach this case of mr. wright. we have seen him get killed. we know a police officer took his life.
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we have not seen it on video. what is the legal approach? do you expect to charge? what do you expect that charge to be? >> brian, i think a lot will depend on what the investigation of this incident uncovers. it's still pretty early days right now, but one of the cases that was raised today in the chauvin trial, which is a 1989 supreme court decision really makes it pretty easy for the police to be acquitted on these charges because it takes into account the view that police officers take inherent risks in the conduct of their work and because of that, when we think about policemen's conduct we have to view it through the lens of the reasonable police officer. what's sorts of things with they have been thinking of given the kinds of pressures that they faced in that particularly moment? with a standard like that, there's a wide range latitude that i think jurors and courts are willing to give the police in those circumstances, so some
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of this is already set up in ways that i think will advantage the police officers given the inherent risks of that kind of work. >> does that all mean, professor, that some people should be prepared for something less than a straight-up charge of murder? >> it may be the case that it could be less than a straight-up charge of murder but again for any kind of homicide, all of these homicides are graded in minneapolis or in minnesota and other states. it really depends on the state of mind that the actor had when the act was undertaken and so here where the officer claims to have mistaken her taser, or her gun rather, for her taser, it is not clear that this is going to rise to the level of murder because she may not necessarily be assumed to have the state of mind for murder but instead it might be something where negligence or some lesser standard for intent might be indicated. so maybe a manslaughter charge but a lot wilt penned on what she can claim is her state of mind and what can be proven
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given the circumstances in the investigation that concludes. >> all right, thank you for that explanation. again to our viewers we may learn whatever charge as early as tomorrow. katie benner, before we get to your reporting tonight let's talk about that giant building and department. you cover in washington at doj and i know there are still several top tier vacancies. the incoming biden administration, of course, was not allow the usual transition time to gear up and get ready and make nominations. how closely do you think the feds are watching what we are watching tonight? the streets, the circumstances, the case, and brooklyn center minnesota. >> absolutely. even without top legal in place including the head of the division we're seeing that happen tomorrow we'll see if biden gets his rights division nominee through. even without someone like christine in place.
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they've made clear that he is closely watching every single one of these incidents. keep in mind that the justice department has an investigation into derek chauvin himself. they have an investigation opened into the killing of breonna taylor. they have an investigation opened into the killing of a mary arbery. and this is going to take seriously the killing of unarmed black people. so this is going to be one that is on the radar certainly but we don't know yet where it will go. we do know that under this justice department, the federal government will say that if its own interest of civil rights are not satisfied, at stake. >> actually parker let me play something for you because i have a question surrounding it after we hear it. this is senator john, no relation, kennedy, on fox news tonight. >> if you hit cops just because their cops, you don't know a thing about them, the next time you get in trouble call a crack head. >> as i always remind people at moments like this, that man was
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educated at vanderbilt, uva law and oxford. this is a persona he plays and intellectually he knows better but having said that, actually, is the biden white house up to the job of countering the narrative coming out of the republican party getting fuel and free airtime from networks like fox? >> they certainly feel that way, as katie was just saying, all of these issues are things they take incredibly seriously. what's the candidate biden announced his bid for the presidency, he said one of the key reasons was because of what happened in charlottesville with the white supremacist rally which is again, not police brutality but it is all tied to this broader bucket of systematic racism and society. and biden came into office identifying four major crises, one of those was racial inequity.
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today, when he met with a congressional black caucus, there was a meeting scheduled for one hour. it rented two hours. now, how successful the white house will be in countering this still remains an open question. again, we just saw another death of an unarmed black man while we are witnessing the trial for george floyd. so the administration is far, far, from declaring any sort of successes but it is absolutely something they are committed to and something that this president feels passionately about. >> and professor, about the floyd trial, something we will point out 1000 times between now and when whatever verdict arrives. the defense case is underway, the prosecution needs a unanimous jury. the defense needs to peel off but one doubting juror, one no vote on that panel to get an acquittal. with that having been said, what did you make of the defense case day one, professor?
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>> i think the defense did exactly what we expected them to do. the real critical issue here is likely to be the cause of death and failing that, whether or not officer chauvin used reasonable force. today we saw the defense pressing on both of these things raising the point that mr. floyd had drugs in his system when he was arrested, raising his pre-existing medical conditions and again looking someone on the stand who could make clear, at least in the defenses view, that there was a reasonable use of force here and that the officer did nothing untoward with regards to mr. floyd. so again, it was pretty predictable. we've seen this and their cross at the prosecutions witnesses and we saw it raised here again today and as you say, the defense has a pretty much easier case to make relative to the prosecution. they just have to peel off one juror who believes that there is reasonable doubt here. >> and katie benner finally to your reporting with mike
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schmidt and the new york times about the gates matter them, are we okay in assuming that exactly two people, maybe more, know exactly how much potential trouble gates is in and that's gates himself and his friend or former friend greenberg. remind us just for how long mr. greenberg has been sharing things with the feds in this case? >> absolutely. so joel greenberg has been sharing this to the feds since at least december. what's interesting about that is that given the fbi and justice department plenty of time to vet his claims. he has been talking to them. we don't know how truthful he's been, and we don't know how careful he's been. you have to look at joel greenberg's overall record to assume that there is a chance that he might not be entirely truthful and that's going to have a huge impact on whether or not he can mail on this cooperation deal to the middle of next month because if the department feels that he has been lying to them, they won't give him his deal. at the same time, they're still going to take any piece of information he has given them
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and run it down and try to use it to make other cases. >> and finally, ashley parker, four years of covering donald trump made you something of an expert, a title i am not sure you are looking for going into this job. are you curious about the reaction of trump and his circle took gates? i think it is safe to say that they have been cautious on this subject. >> i was curious. and i started asking around, people in the presidents orbit and the answer i caught as to why there has not been the defensive him and quite the opposite was sort of twofold. one is that the allegations involved in underage girl and number two is someone put it to me is that matt gates was kind of a jerk, although just generally, a jerk. although this person used a more colorful descriptor. this is also an orbit where they are used to two things,
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loyalty only flowing one way towards the president and they are used to having people go to jail, get cast out, get in trouble. they sort of have a playbook and become sort of muscle memory clipped to cut people loose when it no longer serve some and that's very much what we are seeing right now. >> much obliged to our big three tonight, ashley parker, katie benner, professor melissa murray, thank you all so much for starting off our broadcast. coming up, he called minneapolis a breaking point. that was last year. i'll talk with the author and reporter wesley lowery about what is unfolding there now and what to make of it. and later, abundance of caution or overreaction? as the fda and cdc hit pause on the j and j vaccine based on a one in 1 million, literally one in 1 million chance of something going wrong. we have a doctor on deck to walk us through it all. all of it as the 11th hour is just getting underway on this
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going on right now, we're just trying to wrap or heads around the situation and try and create some calm. >> you can't wrap your head around it. but you go home and you wrap your arms around your kids every day. every day. i'm going to need you to wrap your mind around it. i'm gonna need you to -- i'm going to need you to put your boots on the ground an act like you care about black, brown, and indigenous bodies. >> some background here. that happened on live television. those two officers are temporarily running the department as senior officers in lieu of the chief who is turned in his resignation. as you can tell, emotions are running high and frustrations are correctly boiling over in the wake of another police
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shooting and the state of minnesota. for more, we welcome to -- wesley lowery. he was a member of the veteran of the washington post. fatal force project examining police shootings in our country. he is now at 60 minutes as a correspondent for 60 minutes plus which streams on paramount plus. he is the offer of they can't tell us all. ferguson, baltimore, and a new era in americas racial justice movement. thank you very much for coming on and west, after floyd was killed, you wrote about the horrible cycle. it starts with the killing of a black man. then comes the protests and come what i believe you referred to as small changes. then too often, the cycle repeats and we are in that now. meantime, the family of a 20 year olds do not have their son to hug anymore because he is gone, dispatched by a police
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weapon. is it possible to overstate the level of frustration right now? >> not sure it is, brian. as i was waiting to come on air with you, i was watching on my phone instagram videos from someone i know in minneapolis and she was saying to the camera that this is why we can't accept the problems. we have to get a real change. we have to get big systemic shifts and i think what we are seeing is a generation of those who have entered the space in the obama phase. they came into adulthood in 2008, 2009. they are upset and enraged by what happened to travel on martin. they were frustrated a new, with michael brown, and rice, you get the 2016 and 2017 you have botham jean and then you have a city now in minneapolis and as the entire city, as well as the entire nation moved to
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their televisions, watching this trial, asking, would there be some semblance of justice in a case which we all watched george floyd under a police officer's name for more than nine minutes? and in the three weeks that that trial was happening, here we have yet another case where a law enforcement officer has taken the life of a young black man under circumstances in which the average viewer, and certainly the average black fewer funds themself outraged. they find themselves exit. they are looking at this case and saying this should not happen. i don't think we can overstate the frustration, the exhaustion, and how miserable the cycle is for those who work in the space and who do this type of activism, much less just back americans or whether they work in the space or not, watching this time and time again and each time thinking that could be my child.
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that could be my daughter. that could be my uncle. that could be my father. >> it's no comfort and no solace, but at least we have the body camera technology and a mayor who released it quickly that shows a police officer taking the life of dante wright. again, it's no comfort. it's no solace. but at least we know how he died and at whose hand. i want to redo the statement that came out today from former president obama. the fact that this could happen even as the city of minneapolis is going through the trial of derek chauvin and reliving the heart wrenching murder of george floyd indicates not just how important it is to conduct a full and transparent investigation, but also just how badly we need to reimagine policing and public safety in this country. if that point seems familiar to our viewers, our guests just made it seconds ago and ask the question is, what does biden need to do on a policy, public
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education standpoint, that perhaps the duo obama biden was unable to do during their time? >> certainly. it is a remarkable statement from president obama who when he was in office really walk the tightrope on these issues to the frustration of many of the activists and to many black americans who thought that he had to pull those punches a bit because as happen time and time again, he weighed in. it would be demagogue and there would be such backlash with the gates incident and the travel on martin incident and saying things straightforward as if i had a son he would look like siobhan martin, president obama, but he was almost run out of office by congressional republicans. it made it sound like they weren't willing to. in this case, it's going to be really interesting and really i'm very interested to watch this biden administration as the earlier guests were noting if they can get them confirms, they've got people like kristen clark who don't even know their veterans of the space who know these issues like the back of
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their hand, who frankly have retract records not just with activists who are former with police themselves. people who are willing to work out these issues. what's difficult here, i believe the ad biden administration and they're officials when they say they care about these issues. this is a top priority. what is difficult here is that the united states of america is a local and state government issue. it's not an issue in which the department of justice or the presidency, the white house can just come in in a sweeping piece of legislation and change how policing works in america. in 18,000 police departments, many of whom operate as relatively independent local militias, it's weird to think of them that way but that is the reality. they report to their police chief and to whoever they hire hires them, they may have state laws that they report to but they have different sets of laws. and the feds to have limited power in terms of what their oversight is. even the conversations that
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have been had, whether it be about the george floyd justice policing act or other congressional potential fixes are things that when you dive in, actually take steps many people would like to see and policing did not really imagine fundamental or foundation away. what's going to be interesting here is if the biden administration is going to find a way to put their foot on the scale to facilitate, i don't want to say a national conversation because we've been down that road many times, but to facilitate a type of change across these departments and localities. this is how this helps to happen. the other thing i think is worth noting, i mentioned this loosely last year, was that following rodney king, one of the things that congress did is that it gave itself and give the department of justice more power to oversee police. and so when you see these investigations that are launched, was there a gardener in minneapolis the patterns of practices of investigations
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were experts. that power didn't exist until rodney king, where they gave themselves more power to oversee the police. one thing that hasn't been discussed at least on public very much but that might end up being on the table is this congress. especially democratic-controlled congress, branch itself for the executive department of justice more oversight of the policing which might add tools to their tool box to help perform some of these issues that come up time and time again. the one thing i always note is that even when it's not the headlines, and we're not paying attention to the work of myself and my colleagues we still keep the fatal force database going. we find that three people are shot and killed by the police every single day, whether they make the headlines this is something that is always present in our society and so therefore something that, again, when it's not the political issue at the moment, even when a street is not on fire, this is something that is happening to american families.
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>> thanks to our guest tonight wesley lowery for coming on and talking about these issues that are continuing to lead our broadcast. west, thank you very much. coming up for us, the man who led the team to talk down osama bin laden. we last the retired admiral about what he thinks about biden's plan to remove all american troops from afghanistan by the 9/11 anniversary after this break. reak
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about president biden's expected announcement tomorrow, that all u.s. troops will be leaving afghanistan by september 11th. that will officially end america's longest war. let's talk about it. with us again to do that tonight is the retired four star admiral commanded all of u.s. special forces, including supervision of the raid that killed bin laden. he is also the author of his newest book, out just today called, the hero code. lessons learned from lives well lived. admiral, it's great to see you and great to have you back on the broadcast. i'm going to begin with a very smart guy, you and i both know, the estimable head of the council on foreign relations, richard haass, who has said this about the withdraw tonight on twitter. it's disappointing that the biden administration opted for calendar, rather than conditions based withdrawal from afghanistan. cost of staying are relatively
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low. 3000 troops, no u.s. combat death since february of last year, cost of leaving some, spike in repression by the taliban, into u.s. reputation, he views as high. admiral, a bunch of questions stem from that. why instead would victory look like. how long would we have to hang out to see that. but what's his this withdraw mean, to the families of the troopers and sailors under your command, who didn't come home? what does it mean about what the longest war we've ever fought was all about? >> thanks brian, as always it's good to be with you. well, the biden administration totally has come to the decision, that there is not going to be a military victory in afghanistan. and so from a military standpoint, all we can ask for is that the president listens to and considers our advice.
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so the advice of folks like stop miller, the commander in charge of afghanistan, frank mckenzie, joe mark melody, and of course secretary austin, all of those men, have had extensive experience in afghanistan. so from the military standpoint, we have the opportunity to speak with the president, to talk to him about issues that richard haass raised, but at the end of the day, this is a decision for the civilian leaders, we are a professional military. our job is to follow the orders of the civilian leadership. and at the end of the day we will do that. >> for all the republicans popping up and down on capitol hill, this new withdraw day supersede's the date, from the trump administration, that they set in may. i don't imagine you are a big fan of hard and fast withdrawal dates, or times, off of any battlefield.
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>> in general no, but here's what i would offer to you. based on some of the sources i've been talking to, i think they have come to the understanding that they can do, a thoughtful withdrawal, again recognizing that there aren't that many troops left, we've got to think about how we get the american troops out, how do we get our allies out, and ensure that we do so in an orderly fashion. so i don't know that september 11th was the best of all possible dates, but i do understand there is some significance for that. but i know that the consultation in the discussions that have gone on in the oval office, with the military leaders, took a look at the additional four months, from the original trump request, or direction, and things they can do it. if the military leadership thinks it can be done in that period of time, and the political leadership is supportive of that, then we move forward. >> i am always happy telling our viewers, recommending that our viewers read your books.
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and this one is no different. it happy to have a copy, it was sent to me by a guy that looks suspiciously like the off. there is talk about the ten parts of the hero code, into qualities specifically jumped out to me. humor and forgiveness. and what you've learned, about the hero code, from the people in your path, as you've live your life. >> brian i'm thrilled to do that, but before i do, so let me go back to one other question you had an afghanistan, you asked about how will the families, of the fall and react to this. i will tell you, that the sacrifice of the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, civilians, everybody that was over in afghanistan, that sacrifice, not one single iota of that sacrifice will change, as a result of the political outcome in afghanistan. the heroics won't change, their bravery won't change, and their sacrifice will not change,
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completely irrespective of the outcome. so i want people to make sure they understand that. and in terms of the hero code, i've been fortunate in my 40 years, 37 in the military, and then my time is the chancellor of the university of texas, to encounter some remarkable heroes. in uniform, and not in uniform. we talked about heroes. we talked about time and time again when these young men and women who urged severely injured in afghanistan and iraq, in the used humor all the time, to tell the enemy, what you may have, you may have been me in that firefight. i may have lost a, leg i may have lost an arm, but i can still laugh about it. humor sometimes is this great source of strength. and i talk about the fact that these are noble qualities. and humor is a noble quality, particularly in the face of some of the things the kids have encountered, these great soldiers have encountered overseas. and forgiveness.
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today, we find ourselves in a situation where it is harder and harder to forgive. i think that maybe the toughest of all of the heroic qualities. everybody seems to be aggrieved today, the smallest slate, and people get angry. and yet i have seen time and time again, people, families who have lost loved ones, forgive, they have forgiven sometimes, the unforgivable act. and if we see those heroes that can forgive, some of these unforgivable acts, surely we ought to be able to forgive some of the slates, that occurred to us every single day, and i think that will make us a better society, a better people. >> it's proving to be as good or not there is he was at the admiral business. william aggrievement has been our guest tonight, his newest work out just today, is the hero code. lessons learned from lives well
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lived. admiral, thank you, great to see you, and as always,. coming up after our next, break a big name vaccine is been paused based on a 1 million chance in a bad outcome. an update on the pandemic fight right after this. the pandemic figh right after this right after this to micro-target damage helping to repair hair without weighing it down. try pantene.
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that's why febreze works differently. plus, it eliminates odors with a water-based formula and no dyes. for freshness you'll enjoy. the cdc advisory committee meets tomorrow to investigate and discuss the j&j vaccine. after today's decision to temporarily pause, shots in arms. but the six, six reported cases of a rare blood clotting disorder linked to the vaccine amount to less than one in 1 million. back with us tonight talker but it, dr. jon torres, senior medical correspondent also happens to be the author to dr. disasters guide to surviving everything.
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essential advice for any situation life throws your way, as if we could be thrown any more than what we've got right now. doc, i am so happy to have you because this is a tough one. literally, if you are a woman and a certain sliver age bracket your chances one in 1 million. if not greater then you will have this blood clotting disorder and yet in the interest of full transparency they have paused the otherwise fully effective j&j vaccine. this can help the issue of vaccine hesitancy, however. >> and brian, you're exactly right. and given here without that vaccine about 45 people in 1 million and i'm getting this type of blood clot. it's a rare one to begin with, but they have found six women who got the vaccine and then ended up getting this blood clot. what they don't know is that is there a connection between the two? but they want to make sure. like you said, it's a specific age range, 18 to 48, that the
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developed a blood clot developed within 60 days of getting the vaccine and they don't know if the connection there is but that with want to make sure. do not use the vaccine at this point, the johnson & johnson one so they can look into it in over abundance of caution but they're also telling doctors that if you do you have been to see this, look for certain signs and if you think a patient has it, don't treat it like you normally treat blood clots because they need different types of motor -- medication. the other is telling doctors that you need to treat this a little differently so just be aware of, it brian. >> of course when the vaccine for polio came out, there was a famously bad batch. if memory serves, i think we lost a dozen americans killed by that bad batch but everyone pressed forward because of the benefits of the vaccine and in this case, as a public health matter, don't you have to stress the vaccines any brands out will keep you out of the
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hospital and from dying of covid. >> brian, that's an important point because in the study they found out that people were fully vaccinated and which one of the three they got, zero of the people ended up in the hospital. zero ended up hospitalized. 100% -- that's very important considering the whole covid has taken on this country and on individuals. as one expert put it, your chances of getting injured in a car accident are astronomically higher than your chances of getting any kind of reaction that could be long term or have long term publications from these vaccines. >> let's sell some books. you deal with animal attacks an active shooters, anything in today's society that could kill or interest. drawing on your experience as an er dock, as an air force veteran, you also touch on history. tell me the lesson you learned from the 1918 flu? >> and the biggest lesson i
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think all of us learned there is that this 1918 pandemic was essentially a two year, maybe longer event. just when we thought we got over it, we ended up coming back again and that's because of human behavior and it's spreading around the world. and so the concern is, is the same thing going to happen here? we have the vaccines now, we have more science that can help us so hopefully not. but i think the lesson to note there is that these things, the unexpected can certainly happen so you want to be careful. you want to understand what you need to do and the best advice in the book that i give over and over again is having that will to survive. having the understanding that you need something to fall back to and prefer yourself ahead of time regardless of what happens because the unexpected will suddenly happen and it's probably gonna happen to you at some point in your life, brian. >> ladies and gentlemen of the audience, there is the title of the book. there is the book cover on the screen. i think if there was a lesson of the year 2020 it's that it is the right book at the right time by the right guy. our guest tonight, doctor jon torres.
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number over 22,000 children are now in u.s. custody on our southern border as record numbers continue to cross over. president said his immigration plan addresses the factors that are driving people to leave their home countries and come to ours. tonight, our own -- has a report from guatemala tonight with a look at what they are trying to escape. >> if abject poverty had an address, the village of florida asked to know would be it. with her baby and one arm, she's about to make her mail for the day without any running water or electricity. >> what do you feed the baby?
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>> powdered milk or a soup she, tells me. her seven month old son juan jesus is almost half the way he should be for the baby his age. 57% of children under five or malnourished. it's dire economic conditions like these that tonight are fueling guatemala's migration exodus. nicholas says that she has thought about going to the u.s., but is staying to take care of her in laws. but 21 year old samuel told us that he has lost hope of a future here. he is saying that he is working to raise $12,000 to pay traffickers to smuggle him across the border into the u.s. after hearing president biden would allow him to stay. >> the president and would give you 100 days of a free pass window, he told me. but while the biden administration is allowing unaccompanied children and now many families to stay in the u.s., others including adults like samuel, are not allowed in. what a mueller's president told me that biden's humane
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messaging towards migrants early on was confusing. >> [speaking spanish] >> this president wants to build a wall of prosperity, jobs, education, health care, but that can't be done without american help. and the fear corrupt officials siphoning off funds before they get to the people who need to hear the most. >> tough an important story to be covering thanks to emmett moye dean for that. coming up, what we were reporting on one year ago tonight. tonight.
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last thing before we go tonight is a look back at one year ago today. remember that on april 13th of 2020, the virus was just starting to roar. remember, we had just lost the month of february inaction.
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we were horrified by one unspooled in march. trump was already trying to rewrite his own history of virus denial and mismanagement. when we came on the air, april 13th, this time a year ago the death toll was 23,000. that night, i said this about that days white house briefing where trump called for the reopening of our country. i said, quote, upon watching it, a good many people thought this was as close to a meltdown as you ever want to see from a u.s. president. the briefing was about him, his image and reputation, his slights and grievances, news coverage of him, settling scores. and he made a declaration of presidential powers that our framers risked their lives to avoid. here now a reminder of what we witnessed a year ago today. >> i'm gonna put it very simply. the president of the united states has the authority to do
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with the president has to do which is very powerful. the president of the united states calls the shots and if we weren't here for the states, we would've had a problem in this country like you've never seen before but you can't do anything without the approval of four of the president. when someone is the president of the united states, the authority it's total and that's the way it's got to be. it's total. >> that was, of course, all wrong. a kaleidoscopic misreading of the constitution on top of a kaleidoscopic mishandling of the virus which as of tonight has killed 567,291 of our fellow citizens. and that is our broadcast for this tuesday evening with our thanks for being here with us on behalf of all my colleagues in the networks of nbc news, goodnight. goodnight. tonight an all in. i believe your question is, did
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we pull the trigger too soon on this. >> america puts a pause on the johnson & johnson vaccine. >> we want to get this worked out as quickly as we possibly can. and that's why you see the word pause. >> tonight my exclusive interview with doctor anthony fauci. and breaking news from the new york times, the indictment associate -- is cooperating with the, feds with information about matt gates. plus, will the outrage of the police killing of dante ray affect the outcome of the chauvin trial. also my exclusive interview with senator elizabeth warren on the day she takes the gavel of the banking subcommittee. senator chris murphy and biden's new commitment to end america's longest war. >> peace will be achieved by helping afghanistan develop its own stable government. >> all in starts right now. >> good evening for new york, i'm chris hayes. we have a lot to get to tonight. we have the third night of protests


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