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hours. now we'll just take to you jail. >> thank you for that live report. from brooklyn center, minnesota. we really appreciate it. msnbc's breaking news coverage continues now with the "the 11th hour" with brian williams. that's right now. and indeed, good evening once again. while this happens to be day 84 of the biden administration, we begin yet again this evening in brooklyn center, minnesota, just north of minneapolis, where it is now 10:00 p.m. local time and the curfew has just gone into effect. protesters remain on the streets, however, for a third night as anger and outrage are growing after the deadly police shooting of 20-year-old daunte wright. he was shot and killed on sunday when police pulled his car over and tried to arrest him on an outstanding misdemeanor warrant. kim potter, the 26-year veteran office here filed, fired that
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single fatal shot has resigned, as has brooklyn center police chief tim gannon. he called the shooting accidental after reviewing potter's body cam video which he said indicates she thought she was deploying a taser. instead, fired one shot with, of course, her highly lethal and vastly different .9 millimeter service weapon. that single shot, fatal, now a 20-year-old, daunte wright, isn't alive anymore. this afternoon the mayor of brooklyn center reacted to potter's decision to resign. >> the officer stepping down has the effect, i think, of speaking to one of the things that the community, that folks who have been out here protesting have been calling for. and that is that the officer
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should be relieved of her duties. this case needs to be given to, appointed to the attorney general, so i am calling on the governor to exercise his authority and to move this case from washington county to, under the jurisdiction of the attorney general. >> daunte wright's family also spoke out this afternoon, as members of george floyd's family looked on. wright's mother described seeing and speaking to him before he was shot. >> that was the last time that i seen my son. the last time that i heard from my son. and i have had no explanation since then. >> my nephew was a lovable young man. his smile, oh, lord, the most beautiful smile. y'all took that --
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>> again, this is all unfolding about 10 miles north of the city center of minneapolis where former police officer derek chauvin is, of course, on trial for the murder of george floyd. this morning prosecution rested its case after 11 days of testimony. 38 different witnesses. the defense then began laying out their case. among the witnesses, a use of force expert who defended chauvin's actions. >> i felt that derek chauvin was justified, was acting with objective reasonableness, following minneapolis police department policy and current standards of law enforcement and in direction with mr. floyd. >> the defense also introduced video of floyd's arrest in may 2019. it happened in north minneapolis and called the emt who responded to that scene. >> were you able to learn that
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mr. floyd had consumed some narcotics that day? yes. >> what did he tell you specific by what narcotics he had taken and when he had taken them? >> he told me that he had been taking multiple, like every 20 minutes, and it was -- i don't remember if it was percocet but it was an opioid-based. >> also tonight, there are new developments considering the federal sex trafficking investigation into trump acolyte and florida republican congressman matt gaetz. "the new york times" reports that indicted former gaetz associate joel greenberg is cooperating with the feds and has been, quote, providing investigators with information since last year about an array of topics including mr.gate'
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activities. he indicated that he and mr. gaetz had encounters with women who were given cash or gifts in exchange for sex. one of the authors of this time story joining by to join us. "times" out with another breaking story, a new yet to be released report on the insurrection, january 6th from the capitol police inspector general. quote, capitol police had clear advance warnings that the january 6 attack than were previously known including the potential for violence in which congress itself is the target. but officers were instructed by their leaders not to use their most aggressive tactics to hold off the mob. this report will be the subject of a capitol hill hearing on thursday of this week. as you know, one capitol police officer died as a result of injuries sustained during the riot. today the president, members of congress, gathered on capitol hill to honor another officer who lost his life defending the
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u.s. capitol. william billy evans served on the hill for 18 years. he was killed april 2nd when a drir rammed his intrigue a barricade slamming into evans and another officer. with that, and before we bring in our other guests in this first segment tonight, we want to start in brooklyn center, minnesota. and our correspondent cal perry is with us live. he's been watching it all back and forth. cal, in watching you report it, it appears things have calmed down a bit with the arrival of the curfew. >> reporter: absolutely. i think police slowly ratcheted up that pressure. it started with the cs spray, the chemical spray, the red irritant through the fence. then police moved out of the compound, the fenced in area that comprises the police station. and we saw the crowds thin out, the police backed by national guard. i would say about 500 of them running as fast as they could,
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flat out down this road, arresting a number of people. and that's when a lot of people decided, that was it to go home. there are base clay handful of protesters left. i would say about ten times as. here as there are protesters. a handful trying to antagonize the police. 500 law enforcement officers completely overwhelming the small amount of protesters here on the ground tonight. >> calperry, thank you for that. a snowy night northwest of minneapolis this evening. let's bring in our guests. three friends of the broadcast, ashley parker, white house bureau chief for the "washington post." katie benner, justice department for the "new york times," whose reporting has led the way on the gaetz scandal, and professor melissa murray of the ncu law
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school. in fact, given the news we're talking about, professor, i would like to begin with you. how may the law approach this case of mr. wright, we have seen him get killed. we know a police officer took his life. we have now seen it on video. what is the legal approach? do you expect to charge? what do you expect that charge to be? >> brian, i think a lot will depend on what the investigation of this incident uncovers. it is still early now. one of the cases raised today in the chauvin trial, rand versus connor, makes it pretty easy for the police to be acquitted on these charges because it takes into account the view that police officers take inherent risks in the conduct of their
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work. and because of that, when we think about police misconduct, we have to view it through lens of the reasonable police officer. what sorts of things would they have been thinking of, given the kinds of pressure that's they face. in particular moment. with a standard like that, there is a wide range of latitude that i think jurors and courts are willing to give the police in those circumstances. so some of this is already set up in ways that i think advantage the police officers, given the inherent risk of that kind of work. >> does that all mean, professor, something people should be prepared for, something less than a straight up charge of murder? >> it may be the case that it will be less than a charge of murder. for any kind of homicide, and all of these are graded in minneapolis, minnesota and other states, it depends on the state of mind the actor had when the act was taken. here where the officer claims to have mistaken her taser, her
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gun, rather, for her taser, it is not clear that this will rise to the level of murder because she may not necessarily be assumed to have the state of mind for murder. instead it might be something where negligence or some lesser standard for intent might be indicated. maybe a manslaughter charge. a lot will depend on what she can claim was her state of mind and what can be proven given the circumstances and the investigation that concludes. >> all right. thank you form explanation. to our viewers, we may learn whatever charge as early as tomorrow. katie benner, before we get to your reporting, let's talk about the giant building and department you cover in washington at doj. i note there are still several top tier vacancies the incoming biden administration, of course, was not allowed the usual transition time to gear up and get ready and make nominations. how closely do you think the feds are watching what we're watching tonight?
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the streets, the circumstances, the case in brooklyn center, minnesota? >> absolutely. even without top people in place including the head of the civil rights division, we're seeing it happen tomorrow. her court hearing will be tomorrow. we'll see if biden gets his civil rights division nominee through. even without something like that in place, attorney general garland has made clear that he is watching every one of these incidents. keep in mind the justice department has an investigation into derek chauvin himself. he has the investigation open into the killing of breonna taylor. has the investigation open into the killing of ahmaud arbury. the killings of unarmed black people so this is on the radar. we don't know yet where it will go. we do know that under this justice department, the federal government will say that if its own interests for civil rights are not satisfied -- >> ashley parker, let me play
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something for you. i have a question surrounding it after we hear it. this is senator john, no relation, kennedy, on fox news tonight. >> if you hate cops just because they're cops, you don't know anything about them. next time you get in trouble, call a crackhead. >> as i always remind people at moments like this, that man was educated at vander built uva law. has the persona he plays and intellectually, he knows better. having said that, is the biden white house up to the job of countering the narrative coming out of republican party, getting fuel and free air time from networks like fox? >> they certainly feel that way as katie was just saying. all of these issues are things they take incredibly seriously. when biden announced his bid for
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the presidency, one of the key reasons was because of what happened in charlottesville with the white supremacist rally. not police brutality but it is all tied to this broader bucket of systematic racism in society. and biden came into office, identifying four major crises. one of those was racial inequity. today, when he met with the congressional black caucus, it was a megt that was scheduled for one hour. it ran to two hours. now how successful the white house will be encountering this still remains an open question. we just saw another death of an unarmed black man while we are witnessing the trial for george floyd. so the administration is far, far from declaring any sort of successes. but it is absolutely something they are committed to and that this president feels passionately about. >> and professor, about the floyd trial, something we will point out a thousand times
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between now and when whatever verdict arrives. the defense case is underway. the prosecution needs a unanimous jury. the defense needs to people off but one doubting juror. one no vote on that panel to get an acquittal. would that, having been said, what did you make of the defense case, day one, professor? >> i think the defense did exactly what we expected them to do. the real critical issue here is likely to be the cause of death and failing that, whether or not officer chauvin used reasonable force. today we saw the defense pressing on both these things. raising the point mr. floyd had drugs in his system when he was arrested, raising his pre-existing medical conditions, and putting someone on the stand who could make clear at least in the defense's view, that there was a reasonable useful force here. that the officer did nothing untoward with regard to mr. chauvin -- with regard to mr. floyd.
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so again, it was pretty predictable. we've seen this in their cross, at the prosecution's witnesses, and we saw it raised here today. as you say, the defense has a much easier case the make relative to the prosecution. they just have to people off that one juror who believes there was reasonable doubt here. >> and katie benner, to your reporting with mike schmidt in the "new york times" about the gaetz matter, are we okay in assuming that exactly two people, maybe more, know exactly how much potential trouble gaetz is in? and that's gaetz himself and his friend or former friend greenberg. remind us for how long mr. greenberg has been sharing things with the feds in this case? >> absolutely. so joel greenberg has been sharing things with the fed since at least december. what is interesting about that, given the fbi and justice department plenty of time vet his claims. he's been talking to them.
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we don't know how truthful he's been or how careful he's been twoeflt look at his overall record to assume there is a chance he might not have been totally truthful. that will be about whether he can lock down the cooperation deal by the middle of next week. if the justice department feels he's been lying, they won't give him his deal. they'll still take any piece of information he's given them and try to use it to make other cases. >> and finally, ashley parker, four years of covering donald trump made you something of an expert, a title i'm not sure you were looking for going into this job. are you curious about the reaction of trump and his circle to gaetz? i think it is safe to say they've been cautious on this sub. >> i was curious. and i started asking around people in the president's on or
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about, and the question was quite the opposite. it was twofold. one is that the allegations involve an underage girl. and number two, as someone put to it me. matt gaetz was kind of a jerk, although just general lay jerk. although this personal used a more colorful descriptor. this is an orbit where they are used to loyalty only flowing one way toward the president and they're used to having people to go jail, cast out, they have a play book and they had this problem with muscle memory equipped to let people loose when it no longer serves them. and that's what we're seeing you right now. >> much obliged to our big three tonight. ashley parker, katie benner. coming up, he called minneapolis a breaking point. that was last year. i'll walk the the author and reporter, wesley lowrie about
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there is a lot of chaos going on right now. we're trying to wrap our heads around the situation to create some calm. >> you can't wrap your head
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around this. you go home and you wrap your arms around your kids every day. every day. i need you to wrap your mind around it. i'm going to need to you put your boots on the ground and act like you care about black, brown, and indigenous bodies. >> some background here, that happened on live television. those two officers are temporarily running the department as senior officers in lue of the chief who has turned in his resignation. as you can tell, emotions are running high and frustrations are correctly boiling over in the wake of another police shooting in the state of minnesota. for more, we welcome to the broadcast, wesley lowry, a veteran of the "washington post" where he was part of the team won a pulitzer for the fatal force project, examining police shootings in our country. he is now at 60 minutes as a
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correspondent for 60 minutes plus, which teams on paramount plus. importantly he is the author of, they can't till us all. ferguson. baltimore. and a new era in america's racial justice movement. thank you very much for coming on. and after floyd was killed, you wrote about the horrible cycle. it starts with the killing of a black man. then come the protests. then come what i believe you referred to as small changes. then too often, the cycle repeats. and we are. in now. meantime, the family of a 20-year-old don't have their son to hug anymore because he is gone. dispatched by a police weapon. is it possible to overstate the level of frustration right now? >> i'm not sure it is. as i was waiting to come on air with you, i was wooching my phone an instagram video from a
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person in minneapolis. she was saying to the camera, this is why we can't semicrumbs. we have to get a real change. we have to get big systemic shifts. and i think what we are years is a generation, many of whom entered this space in the obama era who came into adulthood in a way in 2009. they were enraged by what happened with travon martin, with michael brown and rice. 16 and 17, and you have a city now in minneapolis that as the entire city as well as the entire nation is glued to their televisions watching this trial, asking, would there be some semblance of legal justice in a case in which we all watched under a police officer's knee for nine minutes. even in that moment, the two weeks, the three weeks that
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trial was happening, here we have yet another case where a law enforcement officer has taken the life of a young black man under circumstances in which the average viewer certainly the average black viewer, finds himself outraged. finds himself upset. is looking at this case and saying, this should not have happen. this is not what we want. so no. i don't think we can overstate the frustration, the exhaustion, and how miserable this cycle for those who work in the space and who do this type of activism, much less black americans, whether they work in the space or not, watching this time and time again. and each time thinking, that could be my child. my daughter. that could be my uncle, that could be my father. >> it's no comfort and no solace but at least we have the body camera technology and a mayor who released it quickly that
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shows a police officer taking a life of daunte wright. again, no comfort. no solace but at least we know how he died and at whose hand. i want to read to you the statement that came from former president obama. even as the i stf minneapolis is going through the trial of derek chauvin indicates not just how important it is to conduct a full and trans parent investigation but also how badly we need to reimagine policing and public safety in this country. if that point seems familiar to our viewers, our guest just made it seconds ago. wes, the question is, what does biden need to do on a policy, public education standpoint, that perhaps the duo obama-biden was unable to do during their time? >> certainly. it is a remarkable statement from president obama who had to, he was in office, really walk a tight rope on these issues to the frustration of many of the
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activists and to frankly many black americans who thought he had to pull his punches a bit because as happened time and time again, that he would weigh in. he would be demagogued and there would be such back lash from the right. the travon martin incident, things like, president obama was almost run it office by congressional republicans. or it sounded like they were willing to. in this case it will be really interesting and really, i'm very interested to watch and see what the biden administration does. as they were noting, this they can get them confirmed. they have kristen clark who are veterans of, who know these issues like the back of their hand. who have great track records. not just with activists but police themselves. people willing to work on these issues. what is difficult here. i believe the biden administration and their
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officials when they say they care about these issues. this is a top priority. the united states of america, policing is a local and state government issue. it's not an issue in which the department of justice or the presidency and the white house can just come in in a swooping piece of legislation, change how policing works in america. we have 18,000 police departments, many of whom operate as relatively independent local militias. it is weird to think of them that way. they report to the police chief and to whoever hires them. via city council or mayor. they have state laws to report to. but those different sets of laws and the feds do have limited power in terms of the real oversight. and even the conversations they have, whether about the george floyd policing act or other congressional potential fixes, are things when you dive in, actually, while they take steps, many people would like to see. they don't see night
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foundational way. so it will be interesting here is if the biden administration can find a way to put their foot on the scale to facilitate, i don't want to say a national conversation. we've been down that road many times. but to facilitate a time of change across the departments in localities, which is how this has to happen. the other thing that is worth noting. the reference from last year. was that following rodney king, one of the things that congress did was it gave itself and gave the department of justice more power to oversee police. and so we see these investigations that are launched. ferguson, eric gardner, indianapolis. people who were experts at and led. that power didn't exist until post rodney king where they deemed themselves more powerful than the police. one thing that hand been discussed, at least not publicly
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very much. the democratically controlled congress grant itself or the executive, the department. justice, more oversight of local policing which might add new tools to their tool box to help reform some of these issues that come up time and time agai one thing i note, when it is not in the headlines, myself and others look at, three people are shot and killed by the police every single day. whether they make headlines or they don't. this is something that is always present in our society. so therefore, something that again, even when it is not the political issue of the moment. even when a street is not on fire. this is something that is happening to american families. >> our thanks to our guest tonight. wesley lowery for coming on. and for the issues that continue to lead our broadcast. coming up, the man who led the team that took down osama bin
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with us again to do that tonight, admiral william mcraven. the retired four star admiral commanding all u.s. forces including the supervision of the raid that killed bin laden. he is also the author of his newest book out just today called the hero code. lessons learned from lives well lived. admiral, my friend. it is great to see you and great to have you back on the broadcast. i'll begin with a very smart guy you and i both know. the head of the koigs on foreign relations, richard haass said this about the withdrawal on twitter. disappointing that the biden administration opted for calendar rather than conditions based withdrawal from afghanistan. costs of staying are relatively low. 3,000 troops, no u.s. combat deaths since february of last year. costs of leaving, terrorism revival, spike in repression by the ban, hit to u.s. reputation,
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he views as high. so admiral, a bunch of questions stem from that. what would victory look like? how long would we have to hang out to see that? what does this withdrawal mean to the families of the troopers and sailors under your command who didn't come home? what does it mean about what the longest war we've ever fought was all about? >> yeah, thanks. as always. good to be with you. well, the biden administration clearly has come to the decision that there is not going to be a military victory in afghanistan. so from the military standpoint, all we can ask for is that the president listens to and considers our advice. so the advice of folks like joel scott miller, the commander in charge of afghanistan, frank mckinsey at centcom, and of course, secretary austin. all those men have had extensive
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experience in afghanistan. so from the military standpoint, we have the opportunity to speak to the president, to talk to him about all those issues that richard haases raised but at the end of the day, this is a decision for the civilian leaders. we are a professional military. our job is to follow the orders of the civilian leadership. at the end of the day, we will do that. >> for all the republicans hopping up and down on capitol hill, this new withdrawal date super seeds the date from the trump administration that they set in may. i don't imagine you are a big fan of hard and fast withdrawal dates or times off of any battlefield. >> you know, in general, no. here's what i would offer to you. based on some of the sources i've been talking to, i think they've come to the understanding that they can do a thoughtful withdrawal. again, recognizing that there
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aren't that many troops left. we've got to think about how do we get the american troops out? our allies out? and ensure that we do so in an orderly fashion. so i don't know that september 11 was, you know, the best of all possible dates. i do understand there is some significance to that. i know that the consultation, the discussions that have gone on in the oval office with the military leaders took a look at the additional four months from the original trump request or direction. and thinks they can do it. so if the military leadership thinks it can be done in that period of time and the political leadership is supportive of that, then we move forward. >> i am always happy telling our viewers, recommending that our viewers read your books. and this one is no different. i'm happy to have a company. it was sent to me by a guy who looks suspiciously like the author. talk about the ten parts of the hero code and two qualities
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specifically jumped out at me. humor and forgiveness. what you've learned about the hero code from the people in your path as you've lived your life. >> brian, before i do so, let me go back to one other question you had on afghanistan. you asked about how will the families of the fallen react to this? i will tell you that the sacrifice of the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, civilians, everybody that was over in afghanistan. that sacrifice not one single iota of that sacrifice will change as a result of the political outcome in afghanistan. the heroics won't change, their bravery won't change, and their sacrifice will not change completely irrespective of the outcome. so i want people to make sure they understand that. and in terms of the hero code, you know, i've been fortunate in
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my 40 years, 37 in the military, and then my time as the chancellor of the university, to encount customer remarkable heroes. in uniform and not in uniform. you talked about humor. i saw it time and time again when these young men and women who were severely injured in iraq and afghanistan. they used humor all the time to tell the enemy, look, you may have, you may have beat me in that firefight. i may have lost a leg, an arm, but i can still laugh about it. humor sometimes is this great source of strength. and i talk about the fact these are noble qualities. humor is a noble quality. particularly in the face of some of the things that the kids have encountered. these great soldiers have encountered overseas. and forgiveness, today, we find ourselves in a situation where it is harder and harder to forgive. i think that may be the toughest of all the heroic qualities.
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everybody seems to be aggrieved today. the smallest slight and people get angry. and yet, i have seen time and time again, people, families who have lost loved ones forgive. they have forgiven sometimes the unforgivable act. and if we see those heroes that can forgive some of these unforgivable acts, surely we ought to be able to forgive some of the slights that occur every single day and i think that will make as you better society, a better people. >> he has proven to be as good an author as he was at the admiral business. william mcraven has not our guest tonight. his newest work out just today is the hero code. lessons learned from lives well lived. admiral, thank you. great to see you. as always. coming up after the next break, a big name vaccine has been paused based on a 1 in a million
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this is a tough one. literally, if you are a woman in a certain sliver age bracket, your chance is 1 in a million. if not greater, that you will have this blood clotting disorder, and yet in the interests of full transparency, they've paused the otherwise fully effective j&j vaccine. this can't help the issue of vaccine hesitancy, however. >> brian, you're exactly right. in a given year without the vaccine, around four to five people in the million end up getting this blood clot. it is a rare blood clot to begin with. they've found six women who got the vaccine and then got the blood clot. they don't know if there is a connection between two and they want to make sure. specific age ranges, 18-48. they've developed within 6 to 13 days of getting the vaccine. and they don't know if the connection is there but they want to make sure. they've withdrawn the vaccine. they've recommended they don't use it at this point, the
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johnson and johnson one. don't treat them like you treat blood clots. they need different kinds of medication. so two things going on. one is that overabundance of caution. the other is telling doctors, you need to treat this differently so just be aware of it, brian. >> of course, when the salk vaccine for polio came out, there was a famously bad batch. if memory serves, i think we lost a dozen americans killed by that bad batch. but everyone pressed forward because of the benefits of the vaccine. in this case, as a public health matter, don't you have to stress these vaccines, any of the brands out, will keep you out of the hospital and keep you from dying from covid? >> and brian, that's an important point. in the study they found out when people were fully vaccinated, regardless of which of the three they got, zero of the people
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ended up in the hospital or hospitalized. 100% effective at preventing hospitalizations and deaths. that's very important considering the toll covid has taken on this country and on individuals. as one expert put it, your chances of getting in a car accident are astronomically higher than your chances of getting any reaction that could be long term or have long term complications from these vaccines. >> only front, let's sell some books. you deal with car accidents and animal attacks and active shooters. anything in today's society that could kill or injure us. drawing on your experience as an e.r. doc, an air force veteran. you also touch on history. tell me the lessons you learned from the 1918 flu. >> the biggest lesson all of us learned, this 1918 pandemic. it was essentially a two-year, maybe even a longer event. we ended up coming back again because of human behavior.
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and it is spreading around the world. the concern is the same thing going to happen here. we have the vaccines now, more science that can help us so hopefully not. i think the lesson to know, these things, the unexpected can certainly happen. you want to be careful and do what you need to do. the best advice i give in the book over and over again, having the will to survive. having the understanding that you need something to go back to and then prepare ahead of time regardless of what happens. the unexpected will suddenly happen and it is probably going to happen to you at some point in your life, brian. >> ladies and gentlemen, the audience, there is the title of the book, there is the book cover on the screen. if there was a lesson of the year 2020, it is that it is the right book at the right time by the right guy. our guest tonight, dr. john torres. doc, a pleasure having you on. good luck with the book. coming up for us, exclusive reporting from the epicenter of the migrant surge we're going through right now.
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unfolded in march, trump was already trying to rewrite his own history of virus denial and mismanagement. when we came on the air, april 13th, this time a year ago, the death toll was 23,000. that night, i said this about that day's white house briefing, where trump called for the reopening of our country. i said quote, upon watching it, a good many people thought, this was as close to a meltdown as you have ever wanted to see from a u.s. president. the briefing was about him. his image and reputation, his slates and grievances, news coverage of him settling scores. and he made a declaration of presidential powers, that our framers risk to lives there to avoid. here now reminder of what we witnessed a year ago today. >> i'm gonna put a very simply. the president of the united states has the authority to do what the president has the
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authority to do. which is very powerful. the president of the united states calls the shots. if we weren't here for the states, you would have a problem in this country like you've never seen before. they can't do anything without the approval of the president. when somebody is the president of the united states, the authority is total. and that's the way it's got to be. total. it's total. >> that was of course all wrong. a kaleidoscopic misreading of the constitution, on top of a kaleidoscopic mishandling of the virus. which as of tonight, has killed 567,291 of our fellow citizens. that is our broadcast for this tuesday evening. with our thanks for being here with us. on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. nbc news, goodnight. what a news day this has been. the biden administration

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