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ballots. that is the way that it goes in union elections. but the potential consequences are huge. if the nation's second largest private employer, amazon, starts unionizing it is a huge deal. we that outcome of that union election sometime tomorrow so watch for that, as well. see you tomorrow night. now it is time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening. >> good evening. you introduced the country to kim janey when mayor walsh went on to become's president biden's labor secretary and tonight kim janey acting mayor of boston joining us because she's just announced she is going to run for mayor of boston in the election in november. it is a crowded field. some candidates are ahead of her on fund-raising already. but she is jumping into the race and going to join me at the end of the hour tonight. and i just can't wait because
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this mayoral campaign is already the most interesting, most dynamic campaign for mayor in boston for my lifetime and i watched them all. >> the fact that boston has never, ever, ever had anyone other than a white male mayor, that they have had irish-american or italian-american mayors for 91 straight years and now kim janey running in field for a full term that is also full of lots of people of color and such a fascinating turning point, such a fascinating touchstone for boston and she's acting mayor right now. that's going to be an amazing thing to see. >> rachel, the one thing they don't have in the current lineup of major candidates is a white male candidate for mayor of boston. so it is a new boston and it is exciting to watch. >> yeah. that's fascinating. i can't wait to see that interview.
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well done, my friend. >> thank you. the lone star state has two big stars of the democratic party, former congressman beto o'rourke and julian castro and they will both be joining us together in just a moment to lead off our discussion tonight and that makes me more than a bit nervous. about what i'm about to say about texas because we have two texas experts joining us in a minute to quickly correct anything i get wrong. texas hasn't voted for a democrat for president since carter in 1976 but it seems texas republicans are now very afraid of texas becoming the next georgia, the next southern republican state to go democratic. and in an interview with the dallas morning news, former obama administration attorney general eric holder sharply
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criticized pending legislation in texas that would limit voting hours, restrict the number of voting machines at county wide polling places, ban officials from sending out unsolicited ballots to voters and provide more access at election sites to poll workers. what the hell does that have to do with election integrity, holder told the dallas morning news. they have come up with diabolical ways in which they are trying to cripple people from getting to the polls and get there in a really easy way. texas had its largest voter turnout in decades in the last election when 66% of texas' 17 million registered voters cast a ballot in the presidential election. according to the brennan center for justice the texas legislature is considering right
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now more than 100 proposals to severely restrict voting rights and voting access. on thursday the state senate passed senate bill 7 which would limit extended early voting hours, prohibit drive-through voting, ban officials from proactively sending vote by mail applications and allow poll watchers to video record voters receiving assistance in filling out their ballots. election officials in texas' largest county, harris county, which includes the city of houston estimate that black and hispanic voters cast more than half of the votes counted at drive-through voting sites during extended voting hours. house bill 6 which is awaiting a committee vote would restrict access to mail-in ballots and create new rules restricting how voters can receive help filling out the ballots.
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two large companies based in texas, dell and american airlines, announced their opposition to the new legislation in a virtual event yesterday. our first guests tonight called on the texas business community to join the opposition to the legislation. >> this is a republican party power grab. the republican party in texas is trying to bring back jim crow style voter suppression to this state. they're trying to achieve in texas what they tried to achieve in georgia, and companies have a choice to make. >> we can do it now. we still have time. but i want these companies to know, if you fail to act, if you fail to step up, please know that the very hottest places in texas will be reserved for those companies who maintain their neutrality in a moment of moral crisis so we're inviting you in.
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there's still time to act. please do. >> leading the discussion, beto o'rourke, the founder of powered by people. also with us, julian castro, the former mayor of san antonio, texas. secretary castro, let me begin with you. what has changed in the texas legislature since the last election? what has stimulated all this new interest in voting regulations? >> you know, lawrence, i don't know that much has changed. this is, the more things change the more they stay the same. republicans have been afraid of losing their grip on power. the state's demographics have been changing. demographers estimated in 2021 hispanics would become the
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plurality in texas and then this would become firmly even more a majority/minority state. similar legislation to this failed a couple of years ago but i think what has these republicans in a frenzy now is that they see the gains that democrats have been making in different parts of the state. you take places like fort ben county that have become more diverse or the corridor between san antonio and georgetown that is suburban but has gone more and more democratic. so i think what's amped up, what's changed so to speak is the fear level that they face. on top of that, i also think that they know that they can't win elections for much longer in texas through good old-fashioned honest campaigning. and so they need to engage in this point shaving system to just chip away at the ability of communities that they believe are going to vote against them
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to get out there and exercise their right to vote. and what we have as a result are the pieces of legislation that you pointed out. they're trying to do in texas what they have tried to do in georgia. bring jim crow style voter suppression and intimidation to this state. >> beto o'rourke, i really don't know how important corporate opposition to this is in the texas legislature but i do know that i've never seen mitch mcconnell more flustered, saying that business needs to stay out of politics and this is from a guy spending every day of his life, i mean literally begging corporations for their money for his political campaigns and the campaigns of republicans. and so with mitch mcconnell that flustered i guess the corporate power must mean something. >> it will about snap your neck
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to try to follow mcconnell and other republicans telling us that corporations are people and money is -- corporations should spend unlimited amounts of money to purchase influence and outcomes and then to say this which is essentially corporations stay out of our politics. at&t headquartered in texas gave more than $574,000 just over the last two years to greg abbott, dan patrick, and the authors of these voter suppression bills that secretary castro was just telling us about so they're already a player in the politics and frankly they're financing hateful, voter suppressive anti-black, anti-mexican-american legislation like this and they owe their employees, they owe their customers and state their
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ability to step up and stand out and speak to this and make sure that they apply the kind of pressure necessary along with all of us in texas to get the state to do the right thing. there's still time for us to act. >> georgia's republican lieutenant governor says that the inspiration for all of these laws, georgia, texas, elsewhere, is the madness of rudy giuliani. let's listen to this. >> this is really the fallout from the ten weeks of misinformation that flew in for former president donald trump and over the weekend i looked at where this started to gain momentum in the legislature and it was when rudy giuliani spread misinformation and sowing doubt across hours of testimony. >> secretary castro, your reaction to that? >> i mean, it is not surprising, right? rudy giuliani has been the source of so many crazy theories, ideas over the last
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few years but look, what we have seen is a radicalization of the republican party during the trump era. where conspiracy theories become fact for them. and more and more naked power grabs. they're not even pretending anymore that this is about good governance or voter security. they mouth the words but pretty much they admit that this is a power grab for them. and the good news and why it's so important that folks like congressman o'rourke have been out there calling on companies to say something is that whereas in georgia it was great that delta airlines came out against the legislation but they did it too late. the legislation had already passed. the difference is that we still have a chance to stop this legislation in texas. that's why it's so important for whether it's at&t or southwest
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airlines or usaa or any other big texas companies to use the resources and influence to stop this. >> all of these companies have lobbyists. texas lobbyists. washington lobbyists. most of those used to work in the legislature as staff members or members of the legislature and do those lobbyists, do they have the access to get into the offices and change this legislation or block this legislation? >> it certainly could have an influence and we saw when texas republicans in 2017 proposed a hateful -- [ inaudible ] when everyday texas citizens and responsible corporations stepped up they were able to stop that. they were able to stop it because it was the wrong thing to do morally and they were able to make an economic case that it
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would harm the state. there's a simple case to make right now. according to the texas civil rights project we can see losses in texas over four years of up to $15 billion. but a quick point on this circular logic by the republicans. dan patrick, our lieutenant governor offered a million dollar bounty for anyone finding voter fraud. no money was paid out. when the chairman of the house committee was asked for evidence of voter fraud he couldn't point to a single case but said the voters i talked to in my district are concerned about it. rudy giuliani and briscoe cane and the governor are all trafficking in the big lie that too many people, too many fellow americans believe in now. the responsible thing to do is to tell the truth and stop this voter suppression legislation in texas. >> tonight, the lone star state is the two star state.
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thank you both very much for starting off the conversation tonight. we really appreciate it. and please come back as a team. this was fun. >> you got it. >> thanks, lawrence. >> thank you both. thank you. coming up, today, the trial of derek chauvin for the murder of george floyd, in that trial the jury learned that police use of deadly force does not always involve gunshots. we'll be joined once again by our experts, former nypd detectives marq claxton and kirk burkhalter. and at the end of our show, we will be joined by the first black woman mayor of boston running to be boston's next mayor. she will join us at the end of the hour and she will get tonight's last word. ur and she tonight's last word. all that. new cascade platinum, with 50% more cleaning power! it dissolves fast to start cleaning sooner, releasing the soaking power of dawn. then cascade's food-seeking enzymes latch on
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today on day eight of the trial of derek chauvin for the murder of george floyd the jury was told that police use of deadly force does not always involve a gun. >> do you have an opinion to a degree of reasonable professional certainty whether the force used as shown in exhibit 254, whether that force being applied then for the restraint period which you have defined as 9 minutes and 29 seconds could constitute deadly force? >> yes. >> what is that opinion? >> that it would. >> why is that? >> because at the time of the restraint period mr. floyd was not resisting. he was in the prone position.
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he was handcuffed. he was not attempting to evade. he was not attempting to resist. and the pressure that he was -- that was being caused by the body weight would -- could cause positional asphyxia which could cause death. >> do you have an opinion to a degree of reasonable professional certainty how much force was reasonable for the defendant to use on mr. floyd after mr. floyd was handcuffed, placed in the prone position, and not resisting? >> yes. >> what is that opinion? >> my opinion was that no force should have been used once he was in that position. >> once again today, the defense returned to the theory that george floyd was still in a position to threaten derek chauvin even when george floyd was lying face down on the pavement with derek chauvin's knee on his neck and derek
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chauvin's other knee on his back with two other police officers holding george floyd down on the pavement. >> oftentimes people who become compliant after a struggle start to struggle again. right? >> certainly. >> it happens. right? >> yes, it does. >> someone who said almost like catch their wind again and start fighting again. right? >> in certain instances yes but in most cases officers are trained that you can only go by what the suspect's actions are at the time and you can't say, i thought they would do that. and so i used force. it has to be based on the actions. >> joining us now, kirk burkhalter, a criminal law professor at new york law school where he's the director of the 21st century policing project and marq claxton, both are former new york city police detectives. professor, let me begin with you today.
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that stressing to the jury about deadly force, and the message that obviously it does not only involve guns and bullets. >> sure. that's a very important point because whenever we use the term deadly force in the context of police most often that's what people think of. they think of a police officer firing the weapon. however, deadly force can also certainly be the application of a force that is strong enough to take the life from someone that doesn't involve a weapon at all. so naturally if you use your hands and choke someone causing asphyxia, you use a strike in the head or body that, too, can cause death. so it's a very important point for the jury to understand here. >> there was another point raised by this lapd police sergeant who's an expert in these matters saying that the
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position itself can be dangerous, that george floyd was in, no matter how much pressure on the body and the neck. let's listen to that. >> positional asphyxia can occur even if there is no pressure, no body weight on a subject. just being in that position and especially being handcuffed creates a situation where the person has a difficult time breathing which can cause death. when you add body weight to that it just increases the possibility of death. >> and what additional weight did you see in your analysis here? >> the defendant's body weight and two other individuals, the two other officers. >> marq claxton, that changed the dynamic for the jury about what they look at of how much weight, how much pressure is derek chauvin putting on george floyd's neck. >> yeah.
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and what's key about the expert witness' testimony as he indicated it's over 20 years of discussion -- [ inaudible ] so surprising that minneapolis still had some tactical training that involves -- grappling or jujitsu movement and increases the risk that -- [ inaudible ] coming out -- the dangers of -- and requiring that police officers -- critical decision making. evaluate and reassess before continuing that movement. >> i want to take a look at some testimony that the defense lawyer elicited. he was playing a piece of audio tape and suggesting to two witnesses in a row that what they were hearing was george floyd saying i ate too many drugs. each witness said they couldn't
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make out what george floyd was saying. then he put the words in their mind and the first witness said, no, i still don't hear it. the second witness had a different run through this testimony. let's listen to this. [ inaudible ] >> did you hear that? >> yes. >> did it appear he said, i ate too many drugs? >> yes. >> having heard it in context are you able to tell what mr. floyd is saying there? >> yes. i believe he was saying, i ain't do no drugs. >> kirk, you have been in enough criminal trials to see switches like that are pretty rare but there's a witness who went from affirming the defense theory after first saying he couldn't make it out at all and saying i think he said i ate too many drugs and then when more of that very same audio piece was played he then believed that he heard
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was, i ain't do no drugs. what do you make of that exchange? >> i don't think that exchange was as helpful as it should have been for the prosecution and it could be a couple reasons here. one simply could be a witness responding without taking a moment to think about the question that he was being asked. the other could do with preparation. this was the prosecution's witness so it's their job to prepare the witness, not to tell them what to say but to prepare what they may be asked. what's the concern here for the prosecution is you had a witness give two separate statements and now it's up to the jury to choose which statement to believe as opposed to providing one statement for the jury to believe. >> and we'll find out in the medical examiner's testimony just how important any discussion of drugs is. thank you both very much for joining us tonight. really appreciate it.
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>> thanks. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. coming up, congressman matt gaetz issued what washington sometimes calls a nondenial denial to "the new york times" story that he asked the trump white house for a blanket pre-emptive pardon for himself and others. we'll talk about that, next. 'cause i do things a bit differently. wet teddy bears! wet teddy bears here! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ losing a tooth didn't stop you but your partial can act like a bacteria magnet, putting natural teeth at risk. new polident propartial helps purify your partial and strengthens and protects natural teeth. so, are you gonna lose another tooth? not on my watch! are you managing your diabetes... ...using fingersticks? with the new freestyle libre 2 system, a continuous glucose monitor, you can check your glucose with a painless, one-second scan.
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call the nondenial denial, saying our office does not have a statement at this time. we do request everyone to update their stories with the full statement from president donald trump. we will now update our story with that full statement from donald trump. congressman matt gaetz has never asked me for a pardon. it must also be remembered that he has totally denied the accusations against him. but "the new york times" never said that matt gaetz asked donald trump directly for a pardon and so matt gaetz still has not denied what "the new york times" has reported about gaetz asking the white house for a blanket pre-emptive pardon for himself and other members of congress. tonight nbc news has confirmed a report earlier tonight from cbs news. cbs news reported federal investigators are looking into a bahamas trip matt gaetz allegedly took in late 2018 or
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early 2019 as part of an inquiry into whether he violated sex trafficking laws. gaetz was on that trip with a marijuana entrepreneur. a hand surgeon who allegedly paid for the travel expenses, accommodations, and female escorts, the sources said. investigators are trying to determine if the escorts were illegally trafficked across state or international lines for the purpose of sex with the congressman. msnbc reached out to jason pirozzolo but received no answer. the congressman characerized the investigation as a general fishing exercise about vacations and consensual relationships with adults. and joining us now is john heilemann, the host and executive producer of "the
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circus." also joining us jennifer palmeri. she is a co-host of "the circus." jennifer, we will begin with you and what you might be able to decode from the madness of matt gaetz as the story stands tonight. >> so keep in mind that the matt gaetz sex trafficking investigation started as a wholly unrelated investigation of his friend and colleague joel greenberg. and imagine the alarm that trump and his allies would feel if that investigation -- [ inaudible ] and if they are going -- if there was indeed a request from
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matt gaetz, the "times" reported that they passed on that pardon. he publicly said, gaetz publicly said that trump should have a blanket pardon of everyone, me, anybody who might be attacked by the left. and imagine what would happen if all of a sudden the trump white house is under this investigation that involves sex trafficking, women, expands to the white house. and i think you see that's why the trump operation put out a terse statement from trump that said, i did not speak with gaetz. and that the trump staff that were in that "new york times" story, they say they don't deny that gaetz didn't ask for the pardon. he was public about it. that's an old tried and true trump tactic. say the quiet part out loud and then it doesn't seem nefarious but no one is denying that these
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requests happened and we know from the "times" reporting that some of these conversations were happening as the conversation of gaetz was ongoing. and that could cause, it could cause the trump white house apparatus to get swept up into this investigation and that's what i think they're scared about. >> john heilemann, the one thing matt gaetz has said about this which is provably true, he said this a couple days ago, he said there would be a drip, drip, drip. that was his phrase. of leaks, more leaks coming out about this investigation and he's right. the dripping continues. >> yes, lawrence. i'd like to start by requesting a blanket pardon from you for all future transgressions on this program. any time in the future that i engage in, profanity, on the air. can i get a pardon for that?
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>> i can't pardon you ahead of time. that's the thing about the pardon. it only works backwards on what you've already done. and you have been pardoned on this program several times. >> look. i think, yes. the drip, drips are going on. this is a person who has lived a seedy and shady life as we are now finding out and when you have lived a seedy and shady life and consorted with people that are indicted sex traffickers and i won't take pot shots at marijuana entrepreneurs but the people that gaetz surrounded himself with are not the most savory. the behaviors he's engaged in that we know of are not the most savory and we have learned that he has no friends in congress. maybe except donald trump but donald trump is not even coming to the rescue right now except in a very, very, very, very limited way as jennifer pointed out.
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so he's a guy with no friends, whose allies would like to see him go down. a lot of people think he's a ticking time bomb and that he's radioactive so in an environment like that you hang out with shady people, you do shady stuff, you have no friends and people are terrified when you explode you will get radioactive goo on them. it's a lot of drip, drip, drip. the details tumble out because everyone's interest is to see at this point, to see matt gaetz go down and go down hard. and that's what i think people who are his friends and allies in a loose way co-conspireing to do. to destroy matt gaetz, with a lot of help from matt gaetz. >> i think back to nancy pelosi and the way she just threw anthony weiner out of the house of representatives. no investigation, no hearing. took about ten days. there were a couple of things that happened on twitter with
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anthony weiner, the photographs, and she brought him in and said, anthony, go home. because this party, this house of representatives, this nancy pelosi, i am not going to suffer another story with my name in an article with anthony weiner again. you are gone. the republican party and kevin mccarthy don't seem to have the same fear of association. >> or they fear -- or -- or they fear their association with matt gaetz. it has also been reported -- first of all, the republicans always have a lower standard of behavior for their members of congress than the democrats never do. that's -- that is a very old story. but i do wonder, it has been reported that gaetz was showing photos of perhaps underaged women on the house floor to his colleagues. and if they throw matt gaetz out he could -- he has the potential
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to do a lot of damage if he has, in fact, shown these photos, if other members of congress are involved. so i think they have a very delicate situation to manage for the house republican caucus. they don't want to give him any more ammunition. >> jennifer and john, thank you both very much for joining our discussion tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up, boston's acting mayor is serving out the term of marty walsh. she had a police escort visiting her old middle school in boston and also had a police escort when she first arrived at that middle school on a school bus carrying black students into a white neighborhood. her school bus was hit with rocks, she heard racial epithets screamed at her when she was a 11-year-old girl. she is boston's first black
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just imagine what it can do with other odors. according to a new study of the hundreds of people arrested for the invasion of the capitol on january 6th, most of them are white supremacists, angry at what they see as a loss of white control of the neighborhoods where the black and brown populations are increasing. the attack on the capitol by the trump mob on january 6th is not the first time that i saw a flagpole being used as a deadly weapon. the first time i saw a flagpole used as a deadly weapon it was also being used by a white supremacist who feared the loss of control of his all-white neighborhood of south boston and it was 1976 when the city of boston was in the middle of years of racial crisis because of a federal court order to desegregate boston's public schools.
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news photographer stanley foreman won the pulitzer for this horrifying photograph taken outside boston's city hall, the man in a three-piece suit, the attorney was attacked as he walked towards city hall simply because he was black. that is the only thing his attacker from south boston knew about him. that he was black. that's all it took to have your life threatened anywhere you might go in boston in those days. being black in boston in those days could not have been more dangerous. five months after the photograph of ted being attacked was seen around the world, a 11-year-old black girl got on a boston public school bus for the first time and headed in to the heart of the battle in the all-white neighborhood of charlestown, which was then the toughest neighborhood in boston by far. i was afraid to go there in
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those days after my first venture there got a guy i was with stabbed. that was charlestown then. an 11-year-old girl kim janey had no idea what to expect when her school bus rolled in to charlestown for the first time. she was shocked when a mob attacked her bus, throwing rocks, screaming, saying go back to africa. that was the standard greeting in places like charlestown and south boston for school buses of black students in those days. but life inside the edwards middle school in charlestown was different from what kim janey experienced on the way into the building. her best friend inside the edwards middle school was an irish-american girl named cathy. kim janey returned to the edwards middle school a few weeks ago in her first public appearance as mayor of boston. she said, i wanted to start here.
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kim janey said the edwards middle school has, quote, tough, tough memories for me. but this is a new day in boston. the next day in her first speech at city hall, mayor kim janey said this. >> as a girl growing up in boston i was nurtured by a family who believed in me and surrounded by a good neighbors who knew my name. it was my village. but when i was just 11 years old school busing rolled into my life. i was forced on to the front lines of the 1970s battle to desegregate boston public schools. i had rocks and racial slurs thrown at my bus simply for attending school while black. and just yesterday on my first full day as mayor i visited my childhood alma mater. i saw students happy to be back in school with their teachers and friends instead of the pain
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and trauma that i had experienced in middle school. >> when boston's longtime mayor walsh was confirmed as joe biden's secretary of labor, kim janey became the acting mayor of the city of boston, the city's first black mayor, first woman mayor. and yesterday she announced she is entering an already crowded field of candidates in the hope of being elected mayor of boston in november. boston's acting mayor kim janey joins us next and will get tonight's last word. got it? got it. nooooo... nooooo... quick, the quicker picker upper! bounty picks up messes quicker and is 2x more absorbent, so you can use less. bounty, the quicker picker upper. saturdays happen. pain happens. aleve it. aleve is proven stronger and longer on pain than tylenol.
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i've been at the center of boston's history. the bad and the good. so let's keep on going together, boston. your mayor is asking. >> joining us now is kim janey, acting mayor of boston for her first live national television interview since announcing that she is running to be elected to a full term as mayor. mayor, thank you for joining us tonight. we really appreciate it. >> thank you so much for having me. >> when i saw you go and visit your middle school as one of your first acts as mayor, what was it like to go back there? you've described what it was like when you arrived there as an 11-year-old girl and how terrifying and disorienting it was. what was it like to go back there as mayor and be inside those walls? >> it was pretty powerful.
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i was able to visit classrooms. see students. one in particular where they were learning about the history of busing in boston. to go into that classroom and to share my own story and experience as someone that lived through the history and to stand before them as mayor was just powerful, powerful. i remember leaving the school that day and there was a mural on the wall that said turning a negative into a positive. that is the edwards way. i just thought that that was really telling of how far that we have come. not just in our school, but in our city. it was a great way to start my first full day as mayor, returning to a place with such pain and trauma.
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and to see young people learning about the history. and now to see the first black mayor and woman mayor in our city's history after 199 years of having mayors. so just wonderful. and i think about all of the children i have seen in the last two weeks, little girls and boys in the supermarket, classrooms, or playgrounds. and even on zoom screens, you know. i am taking meetings all of the time on zoom. and so many folks bring their children with them. there are so many little girls that i get to say hello to. when i shoot a little wave to them, their eyes light up. it just shows what is possible. there is a saying, if you can see it, you can be it. and now little girls across our city can see and aspire to be mayor.
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i think that it is wonderful. >> i need your advice about how to think and talk about boston now. you've talked about how far we've come. i don't know how to strike the balance. i have driven through south boston the last couple of years at different times. i've had young people, relatives of mine in the car with me. i find myself wanting to say that when i was your age. and i kind of hold myself back. everything i'm going to say after that is poison. i am looking at a black person waiting for a bus in south boston along with other people and that person's life is not threatened now. but when i was in high school or college, that person could have been killed for waiting for a bus in south boston. and i don't know how much of that history we have to keep in mind with all the progress that boston has made since then, or whether we should just be looking forward. >> well, you know, we need to be informed by our past so that we don't repeat the mistakes of the
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past. and i remember a time where you couldn't go in to certain neighborhoods in the city of boston but now you can go pretty much anywhere. it doesn't mean that we don't still have challenges. we obviously do. every city in america is still dealing with racism and sexism, and overcoming so many challenges that have been years and years in the making. we have a lot of work to do but we have come really far in the city. and i'm really proud of the work that we've done. but we clearly have so much more work to do. >> in your first campaign that you released yesterday, i saw mel king in there, at a time i was working with mel king on the issue of boston police reform. i had written a book about the boston police department at the time. and so many others. and you are not the first black female candidate for mayor.
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in this cycle andrea campbell beat you to that. a fellow city council member who is already running. and so this is a whole new politics from back when mel king was so striking as the only black candidate for mayor in boston. and now we have this field that is very diverse already. >> yes, yes, yes. it is a diverse field. again, that is another testament to how much progress that we have made. and i remember when mel king ran for mayor, mel king lives still in the south end. at that time my great-grandparents owned a house one street over. and so i guy up knowing mel my whole life. i volunteered for his campaign for mayor. he is a boston treasure and national treasure. and so for me launching my campaign for mayor was really
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important to pay homage to all of those that have come before me in running for mayor of boston or women in particular that have run for office. i stand on many shoulders as the first, the first black mayor and the first woman mayor and i wanted to pay homage to those that have come before me. >> what is your number one issue as a candidate for mayor? >> well, we have many challenges, as i have said. but first and foremost, obviously we need to deal and we need to continue to battle the pandemic that is before us, covid-19. making sure we are getting vaccines out. and that we're distributing them equitably. i have been able to visit mobile vaccination clinics and it is so important for our recovery and reopening and renewal.
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>> mayor janey, i want you to come back during the campaign to talk about more of the issues facing the city. we appreciate you joining us tonight. >> thank you so much for having me. >> that she gets tonight's last word. the "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts now. ♪ ♪ good evening once again, i am ali velshi in for brian williams. day 78 of the biden administration. brand-new revelations about the investigation into republican congressman matt gaetz of florida, who remains under scrutiny for possible sex trafficking and an alleged relationship with a 17-year-old girl. a law enforcement official and another person familiar with the matter tells nbc news the feds are looking into the congressman's visit to the bahammas with women and if they were paid to travel for


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