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what the country is or is supposed to be. this political violence, lawrence, is not going anywhere. that is the warning that we see. >> professors, thank you both very much for joining us tonight. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. >> good evening once again. ali velshi in for brian williams. day 77 of the biden administration and there is breaking news about matt gaetz, the florida congressman now under federal investigation for possible sex trafficking. tonight the "new york times" reveals gaetz was looking to get a blanket pardon from former president trump. in the final weeks of mr. trump's term he privately asked the white house for blanket preselfive pardons for himself and unoffspeeded allies for any
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crimes he may have committed. mr. gaetz did not tell white house aides he was under investigation for potential sex terrificing violations when he made the request. aides told mr. trump of the request, though it is unclear whether there gaetz discussed the matter directly with the president and that gaetz has denied having sex with a 17 or paying for sex and that he did not privately request a pardon in connection with the justice department inquiry but he did make this curious suggestion. >> president trump should pardon michael flynn, the thanksgiving
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turkey. pardon everyone from himself to his administration officials to joe exotic if he has to. you can see a bloodlust that will only be quenched if they i think the president ought to wield that pardon power effectively and robustly. >> trump and his allies are trying to put distance between themselves and matt gaetz and that neither trump or anyone in his circle is rushing to his defense but a pro trump women's group is promoting a event at the president's resort. in an e-mail he accused the media of publishing lies to drag
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me down and dragging my dating life into political attacks. on the pandemic front the white house is racing to get as many covid shots in arms as soon as possible. late today president biden announced he is bumping up the deadline by two weeks. >> we are still in a life and death race against the virus. i announced i was opening up all sites to may 1st. we are moving it up from may 1st to april 19th nationwide. every adult 18 or older will be eligible to be vaccinated. no more confusing rules. no more confusing restrictions.
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>> right now half of the states allow anyone 16 and up to get a shot. as of tonight 17% of americans or adults have been fully vaccinated. the u.s. is now averaging over 3 million vaccinations a day. just before biden's announcement this afternoon the governor of california, the state reporting the most cases said it would reopen june 15th if the state's number remain stable. toox greg abbott banned them in his state and a similar mandate came from florida's governor and news concerning georgia's new laws restricting voting access. major league baseball announced july's all-star game will be played in denver following the removal from georgia in protest of the georgia law. mitch mcconnell, traditionally a big supporter of corporate free speech slammed companies like
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coca-cola and delta for speaking out against the law. >> republicans drink coca-cola too and we fly and we like baseball. 50-50 senate. if i were running a major corporation i would stay out of politics. i think this is stupid to jump in the middle of a highly controversial issue. >> the president was asked if the masters should leave georgia. >> i think that is up to the masters. it is reassuring to see that for profit operations and businesses are speaking up about how these
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new jim crow laws, you know, there is another side to it too when they move out of georgia, the people that need the help the most, the people that are making hourly wages sometimes get hurt the most. ashley parker, white house bureau chief for the "washington post". a justice department reporter for the "new york times." nbc news senior business correspondent. welcome to all three of you. katie, let's start with the news that matt gaetz may have been sniffing around for a blanket pardon. was he aware that the justice
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department was looking into his affairs when he asked for that pardon? >> we saw bill barr last february saying any investigation involving sensitive political matters we will take a pause on those and not revisit them and not take any investigative steps until after the election. the election wasn't called for biden until the middle of november. you don't see big steps like interviewing witnesses on any of these investigations until after that time. we don't know how much he knew or was informed or whether the white house was informed. we just know he felt it would be a good idea and that people in the white house pushed back saying a preemptive pardon would be going too far.
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do we know how well known the issue around matt gaetz was? >> we know by december the fbi started to interview witnesses. you can assume that as more and more witnesses were interviewed around the holidays and later and then through january that it would have gotten back somehow to people that were close to matt gaetz if he were paying attention to his own friends and colleagues. >> ashley, let's talk about matt gaetz and his influence. he seemed to be highly influential in the trump circle. he was elected to the house of representatives in 2016. he does not seem to have been a sort of a stalwart in party ranks prior to that. he does not seem to be that well known for that thing.
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on tv, he was out there being pretty trumpian for the last few years. >> yeah. that is exactly right. your summation is pretty dead on. matt gaetz is someone who once the trump era started and you looked up on cable news and you saw him there. you know who else saw him there is president trump. that is how their relationship started. the president calling matt gaetz after some of his tv hits where he was a very vocal defender on some of the controversial issues where the president did not have that many defenders. and that is where the bond really forwarded. matt gaetz, you know, he took calls from donald trump. he would call in nightclubs, on his car, sleeping. the relationship went from there. gaetz is someone that rode maga world for all that it was worth.
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>> stephanie for those in washington not thinking about matt gaetz or thinking about the infrastructure bill, the president is working to win over lawmakers on this. democrats and republicans supported infrastructure in the past. we recognize the investment will require concessions on both sides. we are supportive of a rise in the corporate tax rate. what do you make of that warm hug from amazon? >> i think there is some level of rock on with your bad self. one way they are look to pay for
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the plan is by raising corporate taxes. we are hearing push backs from multinational companies and the business roundtable. that pushed janet yellen to push the idea of a global minimum tax rate saying stop the race to the bottom where companies are looking for headquarters in lower taxed countries and in this race to the bottom for cheaper labor. janet yellen has a lot of respect and influence around the world. but her ability to get other countries like china, russia or tax havens around the world to raise up their corporate tax rate is not going to happen. we are going to need more leaders to realize that it could be a long-term good move for the american people and for the american economy. >> janet gellen. she wants everybody.
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>> matt gaetz saying he spoke to donald trump in many, many places. matt gaetz said that the president has called me when i was in my car, asleep. on the throne, on airplanes in nightclubs and in the throws of passion. yes, i answered. that is who we are talking about. >> let me ask you about janet yellen. she said the world should embrace a minimum corporate tax rate to avoid a race to the bottom. been the countries that advertise.
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but her ability to do it will be slim to none. >> ashley parker, the president, it was the thing that he did from the day he was sworn in. we had 4 million the other day. he is up against a lot of governors and local municipalities and springtime and a bunch of vaccinated people and those tired of being tired of shut in and want to get out there. >> we saw it today again when he made the remarks. but he is trying to celebrate what he has to celebrate. hitting his goal of 100 million shots in 100 days and far surpassing it. people said it was a low goal but he is on track to potentially do 200 million by then. that is something to celebrate. he was announcing today he moved
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up two weeks the eligibility for all-american adults to get in line and to be eligible to get a shot. he wants to celebrate that and take credit and give voters something to hope for. and now is not the time to relent. there are new viriants. there are people that want shots and can't get shots. you see him kind of trying to do both here saying we can celebrate soon but not yet. part of your reporting is that this investigation came out of an investigation into -- you are
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cut off. out of a probe into a florida tax collector. he is in jail awaiting trial. he has 30 charges to provide evidence against matt gaetz. what do we know about his situation and what he is up to? >> the situation is very serious for joel greenberg. he was indicted last summer and a few more times and this year with additional charges around accusations that he defrauded one of the covid relief lending programs and did it while he was out on bail. if you look at the charges against him, he is facing, i believe, 12 years mandatory minimum in prison and at least ten for the child sex trafficking charge. that is a tremendous amount of pressure put on joel greenberg. all eyes are on a status hearing that is coming up this thursday
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in his case. people are wondering what his life will say and it has lawyer will acknowledge the pressure and continue to say my client is innocent and we are going to trial. no matter what he says the judge in the case is already waiving restrictions on reporters bringing in electronics because he got so many requests. this will be a very well watched status hearing. >> i saw a tweet saying it is not so much political opinion as it is risk management. they have done it before in north carolina with the transgender bathroom ban and in indiana with gay marriages. it is not a weird first that caleb mcconnell is making it seem like.
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>> not at all. mitch mcconnell is saying the companies are being political. ceos side with business. they want to make sure that their customers are continuing to do business with them and their employees are not quitting. if those two things are happening their shareholders will be happy. they don't give a hoot about politics. one thing to been is how boycotts work and who they impact. something that georgia is thinking about. atlanta's mayor was talking about it earlier tonight. with major league baseball taking the all-star game out of atlanta, a city that has 30% of its small businesses owned by african-americans.
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it will be a huge short-term blow to move the all-star game out of the state in july. the companies are trying to do positive things for long-term positive social movement and social action changes and that is a positive. about you in the short-term it will be painful for georgia. >> thank you to the three of you kicking us off tonight. coming up, the defense has their best day yet at the derek chauvin trial, but is it enough to leave a reasonable doubt with the jury? and later, why is one state head and shoulders above everyone in new covid cases? we will ask a doctor on the front lines there tonight. "the 11th hour" getting underway on a tuesday night. "the 11th hour" getting underway on a tuesday night
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restrained position with a knee on the neck and the back for an extended period of time after the subject stopped resisting? >> no, sir. >> or has lost their pulse? >> no, sir. >> testimony got technical today in the murder trial of derek chauvin. the minneapolis police lieutenant is in charge of the use of force training at the department and during cross-examination the defense referred to the crowd that watched the fatal encounter. >> now in terms of the continuation of the use of force regarding onlookers, the words they use matter. >> yes, they do. >> if they are cheering on and saying good job officer. that is one consideration. >> yes. >> if they were saying i would slap you or you are a chump.
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would that reasonably tend to rise alarm in a police officer? >> yes, sir. >> i have no further questions. >> if they are saying get off of him. you are killing him. should the officer take that into account and consider whether their actions need to be re-assessed? >> potentially sir. >> we welcome in a former prosecutor and most of making the case and a federal corruption prosecutor at the department of justice, currently a professor at georgetown law. the defense has on a daily basis either made some case of the fact that there were bystanders and onlookers who you can hear in the videotapes and the fact that they were very frustrated with the police. as part of their case that affected the judgment of derek
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chauvin and the other police officers. what do you make of that argument? >> i think it is falling flat and ridiculous and will hurt them with the jurors. they should focus on cautionation. that is at least a stronger argument to make which makes sense. what the jurors are going to do is to look at the videotape. juror number 7 who had a mental health crisis. he was so exhausted from the evidence and the videos and the different angles and the trauma of it all. the bystanders and what they testified to. she needed a break. and this ridiculousness about the mob. this angry threatening group of people, ridiculous.
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there were words but did they try to hurt the officer, no. they had one officer holding them back. you would think way more officers would be holding them back. it will lose credibility for the defense attorney and when a jury does not like the defense attorney that spills over into the actual defendant. we should just focus on what the stronger argument is, and that is causation. >> no point does the crowd look like it is getting out of control. but the defense attorney was able to introduce the idea of what was going through derek chauvin's head without having derek chauvin testify. the idea that he might have been distracted by the crowd and the idea that at some point his knee was on the shoulder blade and not the neck and the idea that
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it was somewhat chaotic. tell me how you think that worked in terms of the defense's ability. >> ali, that is exactly right. the defense hads it best day since the trial started. they are using the police witnesses to get chauvin's story in front of the jury. even if chauvin never takes the stand. nelson wants to spend for the jury in his closing statement. chauvin had his knee on floyd's shoulder and not neck. the defense made a big deal about the crowd size. today the officer tested it is harder for officers to focus
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when there is a lot going on around. it is possible the statement could steer the jury. manslaughter rather than murder. but make no mistake, the prosecution is presenting an exceptionally strong case. >> you and paul are used to these cases. you know on tv you only see the interesting parts. but they go on all day and every day. they have got a lot of detail, set up, they establish people's qualifications and credentials. one juror appeared to be sleeping at some point during the trial today. is there a fear of the trials becoming too technical for the jury or tedious? >> officer after officer pretty much saying the same thing in terms of whether chauvin used
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that. now the battle of the expertise. that is going to probably bore a lot of the jurors and that is why they cancel them out. they don't understand what it is that they are saying. i have to go back to the video. talking about the bystanders. can we not remember how many officers in the department with what they would have done. this is from a reasonable officer's perspective and what they would do under the same circumstances. we heard several officers say i still would have been able to do my job. there was 9 minutes and 29 seconds of the video and not one thing was thrown in the direction of the officers and nobody tried to lunch or get close. the idea that one juror could buy into this.
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i think that they are losing credibility. but we can't forget. they are grabbing for straws. they have none. >> there have been eight police officer witnesses. that is a lot. the judge warned the testimony is getting cumulative. prosecutors need to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. but that does not mean the more witnesses the better. it is risky to go on and on. if the jury does not understand now that chauvin did not follow police regulations at this point another witness is not going to help them. i would edit my witness list. forensic evidence about cause of death. the jurors will like the prosecutors more if they do not present eight witnesses saying
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the same thing. we appreciate your time tonight. coming up, we will dig deep into the gop's curious battle into corporate america all into letting more americans simply vote. more when the "the 11th hour" continues. vote more when the "the 11th hour" continues. new provitamin b5 for is gentle on skin. with secret, outlast anything! no sweat. secret.
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as we continue to return to classrooms... parents like me want to make sure we're doing it safely. especially in the underserved communities hardest hit by covid. trust me, no one wants to get back to classroom learning more than teachers like me.
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using common sense safety measures like masks, physical distancing, and proper ventilation. safety is why we're prioritizing vaccinations for educators. because together, we all have a responsibility to do our part. and together, we will get through this, safely. it's okay that you don't want to be first: you aren't. second covid vaccine. it's okay to have questions: everyone deserves answers. i'm wary that there isn't enough information. it's okay to be excited, or worried, or both. it's alright for it to take whatever it takes for you to be ready. hi mom, ready for your shot? yes, i've been waiting for this day. we just got what? vaccinated. we just got vaccinated! let's get you there. let's get to immunity. >> i think it is a very tough decision for a corporation or a
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group to make, but i respect them when they make the judgment, and i support whatever judgment they make. the best way to deal with it is for georgia and other states to smarten up. stop it. stop it. >> more from the president today after major league baseball's decision to move the all-star game from atlanta to denver over georgia's new restrictive voting law. the order will enact efforts to develop a plan within the city's authority to expand opportunity and access to the ballot box. >> the rules of the game have been changed and it is important that people understand the parameters we are forced to operate in. we send water bills out to thousands of customers.
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we are going to educate people. what are the new rules on absentee ballots and just provide as much information as we can to counter what has been done at the state level. >> back with us tonight a former obama campaign manager and ascertain advisor to president obama and on the board of directors at the obama foundation and tim miller, a former communications manager for jeb bush. good evening to both of you. democrats winning the nine counties in atlanta have been the biggest pick up in terms of democratic votes in georgia. talk to me about the thing that mayor keisha lance bottoms is
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trying to do? >> well, it is meaningful. everything you can do to reach your voter and educate them will be helpful. but my bigger concern, and there is so much that is offensive in the language. trump is saying he wished it was in place before the election. my biggest concern is that it opens the door to the georgia legislature. make no mistake. had the law been in place prior to last november there is a question whether joe biden bide would have carried the state and whether there would have been a perdue/ossoff run off. this will be the standard that
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republican election officials think they need to meet in other states. every day they wasted time having to figure out should we respond to this or that. i think our democracy is at steak. this is not just republicans and democrats disagreeing. the entire enterprise now is i think under direct threat. >> the bright line about what corporations can do. mitch mcconnell said contributions to candidates are fine but talking up about it is not. >> i am not talking about political contributions. most contribute to both sides. they have political action committees. that is fine, legal, i support
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that. i am talking about taking a position on a highly incendiary issue like this and punishing a community or a state because you don't like a particular law that passed. i just think it is stupid. >> tim, what do you make of that? >> marginally better than what he said yesterday. none of this is new. corporations engaging and making decisions that happens in political is not something that started yesterday but now republicans are on the losing side of it for the first time in a while. corporations move states because they like the lower taxes. california to texas. texas republicans brag about that.
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corporate ceos speak out on things that matter. republicans agreed with them. democrats didn't. it is the republicans and mitch mcconnell. their feelings are hurt. now they want corporations to shut up when it is not convenient. >> let's see if he says something different tomorrow. thanks for being with us. thank you both. coming up, as michigan battles a surge in covid cases, getting shots in arms is critical and political as one e.r. doc will explain when the "the 11th hour" continues. e.r. doc will explain when the "the 11th hour" continues.
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have. it is a compliance problem that we have. it is a mobility issue that we are confronting it is fatigue that we are confronting and it is variants, frankly. >> a combination of factors is being blamed for the alarming surge in covid cases as hospitalizations now increase in michigan. the state is second for highest confirmed total of the uk variant behind florida. as of yesterday anyone over the age of 16 can now receive the covid vaccine and now a quarter of all state residents are now fully vaccinated, higher than the national average. back with us tonight dr. rob davidson from western michigan and the director of the executive committee to protect medicare. rob, what is in your opinion causing the increase in cases in michigan to be so much higher than the average of increases that we were seeing across the country?
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variants and pandemic fatigue and it has been a year now in the state of michigan in particular we have seen throughout the time a plot against the governor to kidnap and murder her, protests at the capitol with armed insurgents essentially conspireing it would seem with our state senate majority leader. we have our state senate and state house has sued our governor to take away power. people are suing her because she wants student-athletes tested on a regular basis because they seem to be the source of many of the current outbreaks. it has been a challenge. >> 246 fully vaccinated people in the state contracted the
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coronavirus between january and march. they say it is people that tested positive 14 or more days after the last dose of the vaccine series. what do you make of that? >> yeah. they are still investigating exactly why those people contracted the virus and why i think that three of them have died. all of the people that died were over 65. was there something about the immune response? it is definitely concerning. it is a reason despite what rand paul would say but we should continue to wear our masks until the population is vaccinated against coronavirus. until we are all protected i don't think anyone can take solace in the fact that we got our shot. the "l.a. times" headline, a double mutant. is that common in virus and how
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worried are you about that? >> it sounds terrible but the reality is that the more the virus is out there the more we have a risk of the mutations happening and perhaps one or a few of them becoming more deadly. that is why we have to get more people vaccinated and have to wear a mask and keep the social distancing going so that we can stop the threat and actually get through the tunnel that we all keep talking about seeing the light at the end of. >> let's talk about young people. you mentioned that earlier. what role are young people being out and around things playing in the spread of the virus right now? >> yeah. we are seeing throughout our hospital system. our hospitalizations have more than tripled. they are much younger people in general. middle schoolers and high
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schoolers, why our governor instituted a testing policy. i have a son who is a student-athlete and will be tested every week at least. they are driving some of these current numbers. we need to stop the spread, again, because of the mutations and because we don't want more vulnerable people infected and have them be the ones that get really sick and die. >> dr. rob davidson is an e.r. doctor in western michigan. as the number of migrants at the border grows the story of one boy under scores how dire the situation there can be when the "the 11th hour" continues. situation there can be when the "the 11th hour" continues. as a repairman, i hear a lot of folks say they feel like they have to rinse off dirty dishes like these before loading them in the dish washer. but new cascade platinum changes all that.
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the number of migrants taken into border patrol custody last month topped 170,000 and tens of thousands of those were unaccompanied minors. their stories are similar to one boy from nicaragua discovered frightened and all alone in rural texas. andrea mitchell has his story. >> reporter: it is heartbreaking to watch. a young boy approaching a u.s. border patrol agent in the middle of the desert, alone and sobbing. can you help me he says, i was coming with a group and they abandoned me and i don't know where they are. they left you alone the agent asks. they abandoned me he says adding his parents were not with him and he wassa, frayed of being kidnapped. it is just the latest shocking video of unaccompanied migrant children crossing the border. last week cameras caught a smuggler tossing 3 and 5-year-old toddler girls over a
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14-foot border fence and running away. incredibly the two sisters were not injured. part of the record migrant surge after president biden changed border policy. >> we are encountering so many children here in the el paso region that are just turning themselves in. >> there are currently more than 19,000 unaccompanied migrant children in u.s. custody and more than 4,000 held by the border patrol in overcrowded detention facilities like this one in donna, texas where they are packed shoulder to shoulder in a pandemic. tonight the border patrol tells telemundo the boy is safe at one of their facilities. the next step would be trying to reach his parents. >> thanks to andrea mitchell for the report. one of the things that was different around the west wing these days. we will explain when the "the 11th hour" continues. days we will explain when the "the
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the last thing before we go tonight is about the changes that happen in washington when a new administration comes to power. there are dogs at the white house again. nobody is suggesting that covid could be fought by ingesting disinfectant or ultra violet
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light in white house briefings and it no longer resembles a wwe steel cage match. another thing that changed for the press covering the white house, the number of leaks coming on out of 1600 pennsylvania avenue. as the "washington post" reports reporters drank from the fire hose of leaks emanating from the west wing during the past four years. president donald trump's inexperience and chaotic management style begot west side story in-fighting which translated into the drip, drip, drip of insider accounts. since then the pipeline has gone dry. one white house reporter called biden's white house effectively a leak-proof operation. some of the previous administration's most embarrassing headlines came from leaks and it is clear that the people that were leaking and the reporters that were writing about it lived rent-free in the
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president's head. >> the leaks are absolutely real. the news is fake. >> i want the attorney general to be much tougher on the leaks from intelligence agencies. which are leaking like rarely have they ever leaked before. >> we have to stop the leaks. the leaks are very dangerous. i think a lot of leaks are made up by the writers. no country in the world that leaks like we do. i watched adam schiff leak. we have leakers all over the place. >> we have leakers all over the place. that is our broadcast for this tuesday night with our thanks for being with us on behalf of all of my colleagues on the networks of nbc news. good night. e networks of nbc news good night
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>> tonight on all-in. >> the georgia slgz built on a lie. >> georgia's governor caught using the big lie to restrict voting just keeps selling the big lie. >> they are boycotting and playing games yet they are headquartered in a state more restrictive than we are. >> as matt gaetz clings to his seat how did the bar for public shame get set so low? >> get out and vote for roy moore. >> mitch mcconnell's revision of his new anti-corporate stance. >> my advice to the corporate ceos of america is to stay out of politics. i am not talking about political
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contributions. >> my interview with the surgeon general on the push to vaccinate the world and today's big announcement at vaccinations at home. >> no more confusing rules or restrictions. >> all-in starts right now. good evening from new york i am chris hayes. the major league baseball all-star game found a new home and republicans are very angry. mlb announcing the game is moving from atlanta to denver due to georgia passing the new voter access law. republicans responded with the announcement for the extended line that has been a central hallmark of modern conservative politics. >> do you believe major league baseball will live to regret this decision? >> yeah. i think they will. the people here and all over the country have figured it out. they are


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