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that's going to do it for us tonight. "way too early with kasie hunt" is up next. so is it your belief then that this particular form of restraint, if that's what we'll call it, in fact, violates departmental policy? >> i absolutely agree that violates our policy. once mr. floyd had stopped resisting, and certainly once he was in distress and trying to verbalize that, that should have stopped. >> the minneapolis police chief testifying against the former officer accused of killing george floyd.
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the first from several police officers. but the question is, what do the medical examiners say about floyd's death? plus, new reporting on how smugglers connected migrants who want to come to the united states. did social media help fuel the crisis at the border? and in the battle between the bears and the bulldogs, the bears come out on top as baylor beats gonzaga to win the team's first-ever national title. the question is, how did they do it? it's way too early for this. good morning. welcome to "way too early," the show that this morning is congratulating our producer mike for winning the office march madness pool. i am kasie hunt on this tuesday, april 6th. we'll start with the news. minneapolis police chief medaria arradondo took the stand yesterday to testify against the officer accused of killing george floyd saying derek
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chauvin's knee on floyd's neck violated policy and defied his own training. >> once there was no longer any resistance and clearly when mr. floyd nofs longer responsive and even motionless to continue to apply that level of force to a person proned out, handcuffed behind their back, that in no way, shape, or form is anything that is by policy, is not part of our training, and is certainly not part of our ethics or our values. >> on cross-examination arradondo who fired all the officers involved in floyd's death agreed those under his command can at times use force to de-escalate a situation. that neck restraint techniques
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were permitted by the department at the time, and that handcuffed suspects can inflict harm. earlier in the day the doctor who pronounced floyd's death said his cardiac arrest came from lack of oxygen. >> based on the history that was available to me, i felt that hypoxia was one of the more likely possibilities. >> and hypoxia as an explanation for his cardiac arrest meaning oxygen insufficiency? >> correct. >> and commander katie blackwell, held of the training division at the time of floyd's death, also testified. looking at a photo of chauvin on floyd she said, quote, i don't know what kind of improvised position that is. it is not what we train. the trial resumes later on this morning. all right, now to the latest fallout over georgia's controversial election law. mitch mcconnell is sending this
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message to the corporate ceos who have come out against it. >> i found it completely discouraging to find a bunch of corporate ceos getting in the middle of politics. my advice to the corporate ceos of america is to stay out of politics, don't pick sides in these big fights. >> and while mcconnell is now telling big business to stay out of politics, the ap notes that he is, quote, among the most outspoken champions of the role of big money in elections promoting the free flow of undisclosed dollars to campaigns as a form of constitutionally protected free speech. they can have free speech with their cash but apparently not in these circumstances. senator marco rubio is calling out mlb commissioner following the league's decision to move the all-star game out of atlanta. rubio sent manfred a letter yesterday asking whether he
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plans to give up his membership at the exclusive augusta national golf club where the masters tournament is held because the club is in georgia. in his letter rubio said the decision to move the all-star game will, quote, have a bigger impact on countless small and minority owned businesses in and around atlanta than the new election law ever will. he also said the decision, quote, wreaks of hypocrisy. and today marks three months since the capitol hill riot aimed at overturning the presidential election. a new poll shows that more than half of republicans believe false information surrounding what happened that day. according to the latest reuters/ipsos poll, 60% of republicans believe the election was stolen from donald trump. 56% of republicans surveyed believe the riot was led by a violent left-wing protesters trying to make trump look bad. 5%. and 51% of republicans believe the people who gathered at the capitol on january 6th were
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mostly peaceful, law-abiding americans. just saying i was there. that was not the case. meanwhile an nbc news report finds human smugglers are increasingly advertising on social media falsely promising a 100% safe journey to cross the southern border illegally. some immigration experts say the practice is fueling false hope as more migrants fall prey to misinformation about how the biden administration will welcome them. the report found some of the spanish language ads were posted on public facebook pages with names like migrants from various countries in mexico and migrants in the mexico/u.s. border awaiting hearing. the department of homeland security says it believes this misinformation spread by smugglers is partly to blame for the recent surge at the border. nbc news reached out to facebook, and a spokesperson responded saying the company's policies prohibit human exploitation and trafficking. facebook removed all of the
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posts after they were flagged. and the majority of americans disapprove of president biden's handling of the immigration crisis at the border. in the latest ap/norc poll just 42% approve of his handling of immigration. 56% disapprove. when it comes to border security 44% approve while 55% disapprove. and on the issue of unaccompanied children being apprehended at the border, 24% approve of the president's handling of the issue while 40% disapprove. joining us now senior white house reporter for nbc news digital, shannon, good morning. thanks for being up early with us. this polling showing on the immigration issue that there is a problem here for the biden administration. we've obviously seen republicans head down to the border, try to shine a spotlight on what's been going on down there. but this is also a pretty marked contrast, i think, for how
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people evaluate the president's economic policies so far. >> really it's by far and away his weakest area. you mentioned the economic policy. you mentioned much higher approval for things like the covid relief stimulus bill. and then his handling of the coronavirus pandemic, which is in the 70s. so it's clearly, by far and away, his weakest area when you look at the areas polled on here. now i will say even the white house isn't saying we're doing a great job here. the white house is saying we're doing our best, we're trying, we have a big problem, we're working to fix it. we're going to do this in a humane way, but we're not here yet. and they certainly haven't begun any public push campaign to try and convince people otherwise. the president talks about immigration really only when he's asked to for the most part. that's a big contrast to things like the response to the coronavirus pandemic where three
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days a week they have a briefing essentially talking about what a great job they're doing with vaccines. the covid stimulus bill where they have been out there with the president on the road. you've had allied groups promoting this, selling this, and, of course, those two things have real tangible results that people can see. they can either get a vaccine, get a check in the mail. with immigration, it's much more difficult, it's much less tangible and is really dependent on those images people are going to see at home. i would say one more thing about this, immigration, they've had a real strong organized opposition from republicans on this issue where republicans really haven't coalesced around any sort of opposition in any sort of a strong, effective way to the covid stimulus bill. >> that's a really good point. they have struggled to message against it and we're seeing them try to figure out how to message against his infrastructure plan, and i think they're running into some of the same situations. shannon, let's talk for a second about georgia and the new voting
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law because republicans have essentially shifted their argument. they're now saying that the way this law is being explained isn't correct and that biden -- president biden went too far in comparing this to the jim crowe era. how is the biden white house handling that behind the scenes right now? obviously we're seeing this is giving republicans, in some ways, an opportunity to focus on cultural issues that clearly resonate more with their base on other policies we were just talking about. >> right. it's a message in struggle. the democrats clearly got out front on messaging and now republicans are coming up from behind trying to say, no, no, you didn't message it right, and democrats have been in that position, too. that's a difficult position to be in when you're trying to change a narrative that's already been set and set pretty firmly by democrats. so i'm not sure how effective that is going to be.
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the other tactic we're seeing from republicans is trying to shift this narrative to this cancel culture. we saw president trump calling for a boycott of companies that have spoken out against this. you had the governor of texas saying he won't throw out the opening pitch in the texas rangers game because they moved the all-star game from atlanta. that, of course, is full of double standards because it was a year ago republicans were fuming about a boycott of goya foods by democrats. so i think republicans seem like they're struggling to land on a good line of attack. democrats kind of got off to a good start. they'll have to hold the line here and, of course this is going to be a fight that goes on for quite a while. we're going to see more and more states doing this and, of course, we have legislation at the federal level. so this is just, i think, sort of the opening dance going on. >> we're going to hear a lot about it coming up. next year is another election year. nbc's shannon pettypiece, thank
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you for being up early with us. we appreciate it. and still ahead here, baylor beats gonzaga as the bears come away with their first national championship. all the highlights from last night's big game. and later president biden's infrastructure package could be in trouble after democratic senator joe manchin pushes back on a key portion of it. we'll have those stories and a check on your weather when we come right back. struggling to manage my type 2 diabetes was knocking me out of my zone,
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this will do it. scott drew's dream comes true. coach drew and baylor complete college basketball's greatest rebound and rebuild with a championship. wow. welcome back. baylor is the ncaa men's basketball champion for the first time in program history.
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after returning to the final four for the first time since 1950 and dominating gonzaga in last night's title game. opening the matchup with a 16-4 run, baylor led by as many as 19 points in the first half and maintained a double digit advantage for all but about 90 seconds the rest of the way to an 86-70 victory that ended gonzaga's bid to become the first undefeated team in 45 years. it was the first meeting between baylor and gonzaga this year after the team's regular season matchup in december was called off because of a coronavirus outbreak that would derail baylor's own undefeated bid with a pair of losses in february. baylor coach scott drew reminded everyone about that after achieving his goal to bring a national title home to waco, texas, where he took over the downtrodden program back in 2003. >> what was the difference here tonight? >> i don't know if there was a difference from the standpoint
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prior to covid. us and gonzaga were on the track to be undefeated. i got so much respect for coach few. he's such a humble coach, a hall of fame coach, and what they've done this year. but if you're going to war and i'm coaching, i'm taking these guys. god has blessed us with unbelievable players. the people that have come for 18 years and put in work, our fans that have been with us for the lean years, the good years, and our administration, president livingstone, mack rhodes. the city of waco deserves this. texas, we got a national championship, too! >> what a night for baylor. all right. let's go to baseball now. for the first time in almost a quarter century the midsummer classic will be played in the mile high city. sources tell espn major league baseball has chosen coors field in denver to host the all-star game. originally scheduled for july
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13th at the braves park, the league opted to move the game out of atlanta in response to georgia's controversial new voting law. nbc news contacted major league baseball for confirmation and details on the move overnight, but we did not immediately receive a response. and finally, one gymnast from the university of illinois had two reasons to celebrate at a recent meet. after sticking his landing to match a career high vault routine, the athlete flashed an indexed sized card in celebration. using his platform to send a message about receiving the coronavirus vaccine. for those who don't immediately reognize what the card signifies, it's my vaccination card. go get vaccinated, everyone. great message there. time now for the weather. to meteorologist bill karins for a check on the forecast. good morning. happy tuesday. happy tuesday, kasie.
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that would be fun with the home run derby in the thin air. that could be entertaining. let's get into this forecast. yesterday was a good day in so many areas of the country. today we're going to do it again but we will see a few spots that will have some troubles in weather. i did write snow on the map, areas around jackson and also the higher terrain in wyoming and southern montana getting a snowstorm this morning. we had some pretty big thunderstorms near minneapolis last night. today, this afternoon and this evening take those across kansas and even wichita. it's going to be large hail and damaging winds. and then tomorrow the severe weather threat shifts into the south. a few tornadoes are possible. watch out little rock to shreveport. again, this is for tomorrow not for today. and how about the temperatures, enjoy this. chicago, 79 degrees today. 80 in nashville. atlanta, charlotte will be in the low 80s. new york not bad near 70.
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even into wednesday, kasie, washington, d.c., 77 degrees. i mean, this is early april. it can be chilly and this is absolutely beautiful. so enjoy it. >> i will take it. bill karins, thank you so much. we'll see you tomorrow, my friend. and still ahead here, despite an investigation into sex trafficking allegations congressman matt gaetz is refusing to step down. we'll tell you what he's saying in a new op-ed. we're back in just a moment. ent. e to turn to cold washing with tide. ♪ this is a cold call! ♪ hello, my name is ice t. can you spare a few seconds to learn about cold water washing with tide? hi my name is steve. did you know washing in cold can save you $100 a year on your energy bill. why wouldn't you turn to cold? it helps the environment. what? because stone cold said so. plus, tide cleans great in cold. ♪ this was a cold call! ♪ the lexus es, now available with all-wheel drive.
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congressman said he was recently questioned by the fbi to determine whether gaetz violated sex trafficking laws. okay. let's move on. with coronavirus cases rising among younger people the cdc is linking a large portion of these new outbreaks specifically to youth sports. cdc director dr. rochelle walensky doubled down on the guidelines yesterday saying youth sports and extracurricular activities should be limited. this comes as covid-19 cases jumped for the fourth straight week in large part due to the spread of highly transmissible variants in young adults and kids. according to walensky. while covid cases among younger people are going up the cdc reports a decline in hospitalizations among the 65 and older age group where 55% are now fully vaccinated. meanwhile, updated coronavirus guidance from the cdc says the risk of getting covid-19 from contaminated surfaces is extremely low.
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welcome back to "way too early. "it is 5:30 here on the east coast. i'm kasie hunt. senate majority leader chuck schumer's plan to use budget reconciliation to pass more democratic priorities may be closer to reality. the parliamentarian ruled that senator schumer's interpretation is correct, that a simple majority can be used at least three more times to pass
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legislation before the midterm elections. this cracks open the door for democrats to pass large legislative packages like an infrastructure bill or possibly a voting rights package without republican support or threat of a filibuster. schumer's office says the ruling, quote, confirms the leader's interpretation of the budget act and allows democrats additional tools to improve the lives of americans if republican obstruction continues. democrats stress they've not yet committed to this route and are still looking for republican cooperation. we'll help explain all of this very complicated procedure to you in just a second with jake sherman. senator joe manchin, we want to also underscore, is voicing opposition to a key aspect of president biden's infrastructure plan. the west virginia democrat said he would vote against raising the corporate tax rate above 25%. meanwhile the biden administration is not backing down from its mainstay 28% proposal.
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>> this bill will not be in the same form you've seen it introduced or seen people talking about it. if i don't vote to get on it, it's not going anywhere. so we're going to have some leverage here. and it's more than just me, hoppy. there are six or seven other democrats who feel very strongly about this. >> the president felt it was responsible to propose a way to pay for his proposal. that's exactly what he did. he knows some members think it's too big. some think it's too small. frankly there have been folks who have come out on both sides, which we fully expected. he knows some will come forward and some may have views it shouldn't be paid for at all. >> senator manchin, of course, mentioned he's not the only democrat with doubts, senator mark warner of virginia also told reporters he has some reservations about the package and has reached out to the white house to discuss them. co-founder of punch bowl news jake sherman is an msnbc political contributor. jake, good morning.
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always good to see you. we are using a lot of words here that most people probably never even wanted to have to learn. theparliamentarian. a decision has been made that should allow democrats more opportunities to pass their priorities with just the 50 votes. and that means, first of all, they may need less republican cooperation, of course, but it also gives more power to someone like senator joe manchin or any one of the 50 democrats in the senate because there is absolutely no margin for error here. >> yes, kasie, good morning. yes, there's a lot to talk about here so what we know is that chuck schumer has said what the senate parliamentarian has ruled. what chuck schumer says the ruling indicates is that he can use budget reconciliation, the
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51 vote threshold process, and additional time, one more time the democrats thought to get a tax and spend bill through. now that's what chuck schumer says. we're going to wait to see what the senate parliamentarian -- man, that's a tough word so early in the morning -- but the senate parliamentarian says, we'll have to see what she says about the process. i will warn a few things. number one, i don't think, kasie, and i'm curious if you do, i don't think this could be used -- this doesn't broaden the scope for what reconciliation can be used for. reconciliation can only be used for tax and spending legislation. so in my estimation this would not mean that they can use it for voting or for guns or for anything like that unless they really take procedural gymnastics here and find a way to fit that into the reconciliation package. and injust think that would be really tough. i do think it empowers, again, joe manchin. i do think there is some down
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side here, kasie. i think that too many legislative options is not necessarily a good thing. i think generally speaking if you give members of congress more options they tend to find more ways to complicate what should be not a simple process but a simpler process. again, we'll wait to see what the parliamentarian says but we do dedicate the top chunk of punch bowl news to this process this morning. >> it's a good point. for people watching at home who aren't as steeped in the stuff as you and i are up on capitol hill every day, the point of this reconciliation process is to make sure that getting money out the door, one of congress' key responsibilities, isn't held up. and if it's not a taxing and spending question, as you point out, it doesn't belong in that process. so any major change, as you say, to voting rights or to gun laws
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doesn't really fit that definition. so i think you're right to underscore that it makes it -- not necessarily going to make it easier to pass those kinds of things. let's talk for a second about the infrastructure package specifically because raising the corporate tax rate, my understanding that was a place where all democrats were willing to go. there was more nervousness about perhaps raising income taxes on the top -- anyone making over $400,000 a year especially in the context of places like new york and california where some families have been hit already by the changes to their property tax deductions. that, of course, has become an importantish be you. what do you think it means that manchin has come out saying, i'm not going to do that? are they going to remove the tax increases basically? >> well, what jen psaki said there is it sounds like almost a veiled threat, not a threat but she's making the point some people don't want to pay for
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this at all meaning some people would be fine with accruing $2.5 trillion of debt. obviously that is not what joe manchin wants, but that's the other extreme here. so what i guess, the administration is proposing raising the corporate rate from 21 where republicans had it in 2017 to 28 where it was previously. i have to guess that there is a middle ground here. the white house firmly believes and i've had conversations with them about this that taxing corporations, increasing taxes on corporations is generally a popular proposition among democrats. i agree. i think what manchin is saying 21 to 28 is too much of a jump. maybe 25 is a better option. i think he even said that directly in the clip. so i think what he's saying there needs to be a middle ground. just like you said at the top, kasie this process empowers joe manchin to the extent he wasn't empowered before which i don't think anyone would say he is a shrinking violet but he is
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empowered even more now. >> nope. it's pretty remarkable. i'm sure he is quite enjoying his role. thank you so much, as always, my friend, for being up with us. we appreciate it. still ahead here, amid talk of retirement there is a new potential for a totally different career for green bay packers quarterback aaron rodgers. we'll show you why. hy
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>> time now for something totally different. that was green bay packers quarterback aaron rodgers kicking off his stint as guest host on "jeopardy" last night. rodgers, a former celebrity champion, he watched, quote, hours and hours of the show to prepare for the hosting role and chose a more clean shaven look to honor the late alex trebek. rodgers also said he would love to be the full-time host of the beloved game show which comes amid speculation the quarterback may retire. in the final "jeopardy" portion a contestant used his response to ask a question many football fans were wondering, why the packers decided to kick a field goal from the 6 yard line rather than let rodgers go for a touchdown in what ended in a loss to the tampa bay buccaneers in this past season's nfc championship game. >> scott, did you come up with the correct response? who wanted to kick that field goal?
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that is a great question. should be correct, but, unfortunately for this game today, it's incorrect. >> it's amazing. thank you for asking that question. we all wanted to know. rodgers, as you saw, took it in stride and had this to say after the show. >> you will always be all time in my book, my friend. my first show and that's what you said at the end. thank you. >> thank you for that. that's awesome. now to an update from mars. nasa's mars helicopter named ingenuity has survived its first night alone on the planet which is harder than it sounds. the perseverance rover has been holding the small copter in its belly, finally dropting it on the martian surface.
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the temperatures can reach as low as minus 130 degrees fahrenheit which threatens to freeze and crack the aircraft's batteries and other electrical components. but nasa announced yesterday that ingenuity has successfully survived its first frigid night. the small victory is the next step toward its first flight which we are planning for april 11th. very cool. while the white house wasn't able to host its traditional easter egg roll, a surprise of its own. the easter bunny made an appearance at the end of press secretary jen psaki's afternoon briefing. okay. not to worry. the bunny followed cdc guidelines by wearing a mask and distributed easter eggs and candy to reporters. she even got to play press secretary for a moment behind the podium. still ahead, msnbc legal analyst danny savalos joins us.
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it is my firm belief that the one singular incident we will be judged forever on will be our use of force. and so while it is absolutely imperative that our officers go home at the end of their shift, we want to make sure and ensure our community members go home, too. and so sanctity of life is absolutely vital that that is the pillar for use of force. >> that was minneapolis police chief medaria arradondo testifying yesterday in the trial of derek chauvin on the department's policy on use of force. joining us now msnbc legal analyst. danny, always great to see you. it's incredibly rare to have a police chief testifying against an officer in this case. as you watched this unfold yesterday, what were your key
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takeaways from his testimony? he clearly was very concerned about how the public was treated, how his officers are perceived. what was your take on how he did on the stand? >> it's very rare in police force cases to have other members, high-ranking members, the highest ranking member of the police department march in, take an oath and say what that officer did was wrong. this is not the typical police officer as defendant case and the police chief, not surprisingly, was an excellent witness. keep in mind police officers are the best witnesses in the system because they testify every day on their own cases. they're much better than lawyers. they would be much better than judges. watch as they turn and face the jury and tell them the story and relate to individual jurors. the police chief yesterday very, very effective talking about the overall mission of the police department.
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>> so, danny, the other piece of this that we saw yesterday was the testimony from the doctor who actually pronounced floyd's death, and he focused on the details of how he died. because we know the defense seems to plan to say there may have been other reasons for floyd's death. how do you think that testimony went over with the jury? >> i think the jury may have been surprised that an e.r. doctor just doesn't have access to all the facts they need. e.r. doctors are in the business of triage. people come in, they're in a distressed state, they're injured, they're near death, and you don't have access to the information you need in that time. they don't perform autopsies. but all in all the e.r. doctor was an effective witness for the prosecution. the defense made a couple points, chipped away, asked about -- raised the specter of drug abuse, which they will have to develop later on because it is central to their causation argument. >> so, danny, to circle back, we
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saw, of course, the cross-examination of the chief where they seemed to try to get him to undermine some of the points that were made by the prosecution. what do you think was the effect of that cross-examination? did the cross-examination? did the defense accomplish what they needed to do with that? >> this is a witness that the defense wasn't going to get too much out of because, look, like i said, he's going to be one of the best witnesses on the stand for the prosecution. but they which i happened away. they made points like procedures change, policies change. any car stop can instantly explode into a use of force situation. every time the officer approaches the car, it could be a routine car stop or it could go to lethal force in a second. and that the supreme court has said that we don't look at what police officers did with the benefit of hindsight. we look at the information available to them in the moment. so the defense made a couple of points here, but all in all, not
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surprisingly, this was a very good witness for the prosecution. >> all right. danny cevallos, thank you very much for being up early with us. we really appreciate it. and of course, we'll keep covering this trial as it unfolds later on today. earlier on in the show here, we asked, why are you awake? we got this note from one viewer who shares a photo who says, he's up because frank the parrot was woken up by the cat. not happy. i wouldn't be happy either. on the flip side of that equation, david e-mailed this picture of his cat, chloe, who woke him up to watch movies about birds. okay. carrie tweets, i'm up way too early, because all of the kids in my elementary school are returning. haven't seen many of them since march of last year, so i'm excited. i'm sure they are thrilled as well. another viewer sharing, well, maybe it's a little too much information. she's up, because, she says, my daughter is going through a breakup. no sleep in my household. thank you for being up with me. your daughter is very lucky to
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welcome back. joining us now is the politics editor at axios, glenn johnson. glenn, it's great to have you. you and i go way back to our days at the associated press. and i'm happy to have you here on "way too early." what's the one big thing you guys are pushing out today? >> hi, kasie. good to be with you and see you again. the one big thing from axios today is the building push from president biden's infrastructure plan. our money and politics recorder
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laughlin mckay talks about a new advertising push and they're releasing a series of three videos. one to a national audience and two targeted most interestingly in west virginia and maine as senator joe manchin, a democrat and susan collins, a republican. and they are trying to build support for the president's infrastructure plan by not only building awareness nationally, but also targeting two key swing state senators, joe manchin in west virginia and susan collins as the linchpins for trying to get us through this 50/50 senate. >> let's talk about manchin for a second. he has thrown yet another wrench at the white house saying he's not sure he's willing to raise the corporate tax rate to the 28% that the biden team has proposed. he would be more comfortable with 25. that's still an increase, but not quite as much of an increase.
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manchin seems to be very much enjoying his role as basically a one-man senate. >> for sure. any senator in particular has this capability right now on the democratic side or the republican side, but joe manchin has become the focal point for this first negotiating elements of the coronavirus relief package, stimulus, workers compensation rules, then in the tax package and now this in terms of the infrastructure bill. you have to wonder if all of it is a little bit interrelated. what you may end up agreeing to on a tax bill may be could be influenced by what you could get in an infrastructure bill. it's smart politicking in a way and it's taking advantage of this very narrowly divided senate. >> well, he certainly is very aware of the power that he has. >> sure. >> so, glen, axios also took a new poll. let's talk about the pandemic here for a second, because it
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does sound as though there are some reasons to be optimistic. what did you guys learn? >> for sure. we're basically a year, 13 months into this now. and the good news is that a year later, seven in ten people have gotten the vaccine or are close to getting it. we're seeing many states now lowering the eligibility age down to 16, basically opening it up to anybody that wants to get it. that's the good side of it. the little bit more disturbing side in our weekly axios/ipsos coronavirus index that 52% of parents say that they're probably not going to get their child -- or 52% said they would get their child vaccinated as soon as the vaccine was available to them, but 48% said they wouldn't. so there's still about a 50/50 split on that. parents showing some concern about immediately rushing off to get their children vaccinated. and that's going to be very important, as doctors try and push us towards herd immunity.
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>> and it also seems to raise questions, glen, about getting kids back in schools. that has obviously been a pretty potent political issue this spring and there are a lot of questions about how some of these big public school districts are going to handle even the fall in terms of getting kids back into the classroom. how do you think that affects the politics of all of this and the midterm elections, republicans are really seizing on this issue. if, in fact, parents are that reluctant to get their kids vaccinated. >> that's part of the reason why you're seeing not only joe biden but jill biden herself a teacher out and trying to push for ways to reopen schools, whether it's better ventilation or adjusting separation from 6 feet to 3 week per the cdc or this vaccination drive. the president will be speak about that today and throughout the coming weeks, as well. highlighting the successful numbers they've had so far, but
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the need to get more people vaccinated. and this is going to be key to reopening the economy, as well. because so many of these working parents need to get their children taken care of in a safe way, so they can effectively get back to the workplace. >> glenn johnson from axios, thank you so much for being up early with us. we really appreciate your insights today. and as we look ahead to this week, i've got to say, i'm so focused on baseball. i've got to give it to willie geist's new york yankees, who unfortunately topped, shut out, my orioles. back to, i guess, some semblance of normal. don't we all want normal these days? not in this particular case. thank you for getting up "way too early" with us on this tuesday morning. don't go anywhere. "morning joe" starts right now. >> with all of his complaining about cancel culture, this guy is trying to cancel more culture than anybody ever. if you listen to donald trump, you would have to cancel baseball, coke, delta airlines, viacom/cbs, citigroup,


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