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very clear about what he thinks about the former officer. >> if you could talk to him and be in the same room, what would you say to him? >> i refuse to be in the room with him and i will not mention his name. what this week's easter gatherings might mean with the most people traveling yet. and at the u.s. capitol, a push to beef up security after another deadly attack. plus a new warning from the police union and what they're saying in just a moment. kristin gibbons who is a civil rights attorney that served as a prosecutor. we're also joined by britney
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cunningham, a former member of president obama's task force. there is really strong words from the police chief and we're talking about what we're expecting later this morning, possibly in a matter of minutes when they get started on the prosecution's slate of witnesses today. >> the testimony is set to begin in the next half our or so. he is expected to testify at some point today. now as you mentioned in my interview last summer he said he did not want to be in the same room with derek chauvin. now he will be and the prosecution in the opening statements had said that he would not mince words. he would describe how derek chauvin used excessive force, and it is extremely rare for a police chief to testify.
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the police chief down there who shot walter scott, they did testify. he has been outspoken since george floyd died. he fired derek chauvin. he has been critical, and he is one of several police witnesses that the prosecution has called. you remember that testimony on friday from lieutenant zimmerman. he gave very damaging testimony to the to the defense. his testimony came after derek
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chauvin's supervisor said he went to far. the defense said he did exactly has he was trained to do and the prosecution trying to poke a hole in that defense. >> we're looking live now at what is happening here. at this time it is a pre-trial motion. we understand it is the admissibility of derek chauvin's body cam footage. he is certainly the highest profile witness to testify so far. as you heard gabe explain they said chauvin was following his training, but they will dispute that. talk about the cross-examination. how do they refute someone that may have a significant amount of credibility given his rote at
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the minneapolis police department. >> you will see him examine everyone that is there and i don't think it is effective. he will go moment by moment to break down to see whether or not the use of force was appropriate in each second that chauvin's knee was on mr. floyd's neck. the reason i said it's not effective is an lieutenant zimmerman testified too, it was wrong at second one and at 9:29. and that use of that force continuum was wrong when he was handcuffed, prone, and when he was no longer breathing. >> britney, we know the police chief is adding to what we heard from two other supervisors that testified as folks who watch the
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show know. derek chauvin went too far at that point. talk about from your perspective how how rare it is for police officers to testify against one of their own. >> it's incredibly rare. we see that thin blue line being quite thick. often being one that police officers whether or not they're fellow rank and file or in the administration at executive roles failing off to cross that and hold their fellow officers accountable. this is why over 99% of police officers that kill black people are never convicted. the question is not just that it is rare, but why is it so rare? no matter the outcome in this case that the guilty verdict will not end police violence. this is fundamentally a systemic
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issue and i think we have to wonder as we get more details about this case, as we hear more about this particular use of force in this particular case, why this kind of force is permissible at all. we have to be clear here that if we allow ourselves to continue to separate the hairs here we'll begin to think that what happened to george floyd is not okay. but what hammed to young adam toledo, when he was killed by police, that that is okay. it should never, ever, be okay for the police to kill people. i'm glad to see the police chief here is stepping up to do what so many others won't. but this should frankly not be a conversation because george floyd should still be alive. >> i ask both of you to stay
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with me because we're going to come back to this as we get closer to the testimony in a couple minutes. gabe gutierrez, stand by also, please. there is more debate about whether or not a fourth wave of covid could be in the works. top experts talk about where this is headed. >> we'll see in the next two weeks the highest number of cases reported globally since the beginning of the pandemic. in terms of the united states we're at the beginning of the surge. >> i think there is a enough immunity you won't see a true fourth wave. >> half of the country is seeing rates go up, the worst spike in michigan with cases up 120% in the last few weeks. on the flip side an average of three million people getting vaccinated every day. 40% of adults have at least one dose. i want to bring in dr. john torres. we heard what felt like contradictory information from a
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couple well known experts. a big concern is the variants that we're seeing. we're seeing dr. olsterholm talking about the risks for kids, younger people, and how much worse the infections could get among everybody. >> that is exactly what the debate is right now. what is driving this variant to increase across the country. what is driving the surges. in the northeast and the midwest is a fourth wave. the concern is will it spread across the rest of the country. the children seem to be the driving force behind this and there is a couple reasons for that. we think the b117 might be affecting them more. on top of that a lot of adults are getting immune needs. so that pool of people are getting smaller. the children are the ones more
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dominant at this point of getting infected. them getting back to school can serve as a force of the infections to spread. only time will tell where that goes and that's why you're seeing experts debate. is this a fourth wave or not a fourth wave. particularly in the next four weeks or so, but the main thing right now is these cases are not dropping across the country. they're plateauing and they're rising very rapidly. the other thing to remember is the children cannot get the vaccine, hallie. it is on the rest of us to get the vaccine, to wear the mask, to social distance, and to protect the kids as well. these variants are going to keep popping up, spreading, and children keep getting infected. >> you also have travel up recently about 800% from last year. and mixed messages about whether or not it is safe to start traveling again. can you talk about your personal
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approach? what your message might be to people who are maybe traveling to spring break, et cetera? >> i get it. we want to get back to a normal life, friends, family, and vacations we were not able to tame before. we're at the tail end of the start of the pandemic trying to get it under control. if we can do this a little longer especially through the summer we can get it under control and get back to our normal life. i would say if you need to travel, if you're vaccinated that's a different story. the cdc said it's safe to travel if you're vaccinated assuming you take regular precautions. if you're not, step back say do i really need this trip? is there something else i can do. let's wait just a little bit longer so we can get this over with. >> dr. john torres, thank you very much. i want to take you live now to
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capitol hill where police leaders are warning of a potential new crisis after friday's deadly attack on capitol hill when someone drove their car into a barrier killing an officer and putting another into a hospital. now they're warning that the force is approaching a crisis in moral and force numbers. friday's attack was another blow after what happened on january 6th. the release of kenny schaffer being released from the hospital, feels like such a bright spot. >> the cheers there. you see everyone lining the streets as he is released. an emotional moment as they try to figure out what happens next for security. let me bring in garrett haake. what are they saying about
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hiring more officers and boosting moral. . >> it is something that we have known, the capitol police department is really chronically under manned. they're about 10% down from their full force strength even right now. some 200 officers or so they do not have. they have permission to hire but they cannot fill those jobs. the officers here have been working tons of forced overtime, 12-hour days part of this expanded perimeter, part of trying to protect the building. now the head of the police union says they're facing a retirement crisis. in the next three or four years around 500 officers might be eligible to retire. they're not at the center of so much. and now this will be shifted over to lawmakers particularly when they come back next week to start talking about how do we address this?
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this is less controversial than physical fencing is a first step in any path towards fully securing the capitol. >> garrett haake, live on capitol hill. we're going to keep on with what is happening in washington. we're also going to take you back live to minneapolis. right now the pretrial motions are continuing. first, you have hundreds of people in florida running from their homes this morning with a toxic reservoir on the brink of collapse. the governor saying crews are trying to stop a catastrophic flood situation. and pressure on buildings to
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the justices have thrown out a lawsuit related to former president donald trump and his
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tweets. pete williams is here now, what more can you tell us? >> i'm probably talking right now to you, someone's whose life was influenced by tweets when you were a white house correspondent. after getting critical comments on at real donald trump. they sued and said you can't do that because your twitter page, your twitter account, is in essence a public forum. and now the justice department said it is basically the same thing she can do at the twitter account. the president made an official statement, there was input from white house staffers. it was in essence a kind of public forum and he could not public forum. the case is dismissed as moot
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and that is what the court has done. there is an interesting concurrence in this. he said i agree, there's a dead letter, there is nothing to fight every any more, but he said i think we're still trying to apply old principals to new technology. it does seem odd to think that a public forum is something operated by a private entity that could shut it down, and you may recall that twitter did suspend his account. these are questions that have to be left for another day, but the fight over president trump's twitter account, anyway, is now gone. >> pete williams bringing that to us from our washington news room. officials in florida are warning about a potential catastrophic disaster in manitee county. they're working to drain a leaking reservoir. right now it has more than 250 million gallons of waste water.
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you just saw the leak at the base. look at some of this drone video. we're going to show you a side by side heat map. it shows the tears in the infrastructure holding this together. the alarm now being sounded about this possible 20 foot high wall of water collapsing into nearby communities. a mandatory evacuation for hundreds of people including a county jail. joining us is sam broke. -- brock. it seems like the next 24 hours will be very important for this. >> it is critical. good morning, good to be with you. no news is good news right now. we know that as far as every inch of that water level going down that is less pressure being exerted on the reservoir. we got around 300 million gallons of water left. that was at 8:00 p.m. last night. we're expecting a news conference for updated for the
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hour. one of the concerns here, if it ruptures, it could destabilize two other ponds next to it which brings the total to like 600 or 700 million gallons. we're about half of a mile from a subdivision. there is 140 homes there. one man is living there and decided to stay. he said about half of the people in the subdivision are staying right now and the other half are leaving. they have told people that you have to get out. there is a worry that if this were to burst you see flood waters and might be several feet of water. >> sam, we're going to check
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back in with you. shaquille brewster is outside of the courthouse where the trial of derek chauvin is set to begin. our guests are joining us again, and britney patnick-cunningham. shaq, i want to know what we're listening to now. i don't know if we have shaq with us, but i will ask paul butler to jump in here. i think my control room can correct me if i'm wrong here, we're doing the pre-trial motion. is this unusual to you that the defense is asking, the prosecution and defense, having
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a conflict over what video the jurors can see. >> it happens all of the time. this judge is a micro manager so there is not as many objections as there normally will be because the judge made a lot of rulings, but look, the defense is getting hammered with video tapes and the jurors will just believe their own eyes. it's not surprising their trying to exclude as many videotapes as they can. >> we talked a bit ago about the defense strategy here and the way they will try to combat the many witnesses the defense is expected to bring up. this is central to the defense argument. if you have prosecuted very high profile cases. we mentioned the cosby trial. >> i would accomplish through
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police officer testimony after police officer testimony which is exactly what the prosecution is doing here now that the use of force used to restrain mr. floyd long enough where they have placed him in handcuffs, violated minneapolis police training. i would also establish that it violated in such a way that it progressed to assault and murder when mr. floyd was in the prone position. when he was cuffed with his hands behind his back. a tactic that since 1985 was a position that impairing, where he is no longer moving and even from a distance the paramedic could tell he was likely not breathing, dead, and unresponsive. to show that his knee on his neck through that entire continuum was wrong, against the law, and it constituted
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second-degree murders. >> the defense right now is basically expressing some of the judges rules saying the prosecution is using police officers as though they're experts when they should just be allowed to testify to training, procedure, and methods. the defense looking to limit the scope of any testimony by a police officer. i'm going to ask our experts to join us in a minute as well. >> a summary of the training provided and that his personnel records show that he took that training is fine. videos and opinions i'm not going to allow. >> i just want to, i think this touches on something that was technically reserved in motion was the issue of what training materials would be admitted,
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inspector blackwell, both parties intend to introduce training records. there is not a determination of does the state needs to prove that officer chauvin experienced that direct training or is it just general training materials of the minneapolis police department. that's what we have been trying to work out. and that conversation has been on the back burner. >> i will just give you my thoughts and we'll see if it answers any questions. my analysis is that we said mr. floyd's state of mind is not relevant. it's the department's state of mind. his knowledge and his intent.
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and part of his knowledge is based on training he received. so a summary of the crisis intervention training he received is appropriate. we're not getting into -- i suppressed the psychologist testimony. i'm not going to let a trainer give those kind of answers, but evidence regarding what he knew, what he had been trained on, that goes to intent and knowledge is all relevant and would be allowed. so what am i missing here that still needs to be clarified? >> i think we get into some problems in terms of how a connection between had he actually gone there think specific powerpoint presentation. the way that i, and this goes to
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how the disclosures were given to me and -- >> let's twitch switch places here. >> thank you, your honor. officer chauvin has completed 844 some odd hours of training. as the course is aware from friar continuing education, i go on the cle and i report i attended that all-day long seminar, but in that seminar there are five, six, seven different presentations. we look at mr. chauvin's workforce director training records. it says he attended the 2020 use of force phase 1 defensive tactics presentation. what does that consist of has been virtually impossible to reconstruct.
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it goes to primarily how it was originally disclosed to the defense, to the police department, from the bca to the defense, and that formed a basis of my earlier motion and proceedings to get a copy of that drive. so when i originally received these training materials, for example, these training materials are 20,000 to 30,000 pages in pdf format and you can look at a pdf of a powerpoint presentation that says use of force academy, there is no frame of reference as to when it was given, who -- there is no title or dates. there is no information about who taught it, who attended this course. and some of that information contains very important statements on part of the
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minneapolis police department. when i received the bca drive much later and i look at them in their native formats, the reason i wasn't seeing the titles of these presentations or the dates of the presentations is because that's how they were saved on the drive into it would say 2018 phase one defensive tactics. you know now this is the training material from 2018 from the defensive tactics course. or it will say 2018 crisis intervention training. whatever it is, 2018 human factors of force training. so the dates and titles of the courses were given on that drive. it is a workforce director program and he got credits for the eight-hour day.
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they are talking about the presentations given on that particular day, there is literally no way to put this together and i don't think the state would disagree with that. >> let's see if we do, can you tie a specific training module to the date that mr. chauvin actually attended. >> your honor, first we can show the workforce director training that memorializes what particular trainings, in-service trainings, he has attended and the titles of them. then we can have the trainer specifically talk about the materials and curriculum they developed for those blocks of training. >> on those dates? >> on those dates for -- right, so for example, if it will be the fall in-service. so you have been listening
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to one of the pre-trial motions in the derek chauvin trial. there is two motions put into play here. one involved the body camera derek chauvin. paul butler, let me the prosecution is looking to go into this week focusing their strategy on police use of force, what derek chauvin was trained to do. they're looking to show that chauvin went beyond his training and uses unreasonable force on
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george floyd. the defense is looking to say that chauvin did what he was trained to do. that is why the training component of this is so important and that is what is central to the training arguments here. help people understand what the back and forth is and what way do you think the judge is leaning based on the cues so far. >> part of the context is that earlier the prosecution wanted to present evidence that the reason that george floyd didn't get out of the police car immediately is because he suffered trauma based on previous encounters with cops when they pointed guns at him. so they want an expert to say the way that floyd reacted was anyone that experienced a police trauma that george floyd had would we act. and the judge would not allow that testimony. they say that what was going on in george ploid's mind was not relevant.
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so now the defense is trying to throw that back at the judge saying the judge should not allow testimony about what chauvin was instructed about police police regulations. they are trying to prove that mr. chauvin assaulted, meaning he knew what he was doing was rog, and acted against regulations. and they want to present evidence about their training that he received they think that might help the jury to understand that element that is necessary for their murder in the second degree con vikts. that's what this big fight is about. >>. >> do you think it is a good move or a smart move to try to make this argument to the judge right now? >> i think they might as well
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try, but regardless of whether or not they win or lose the crux is should it have continued nine minutes 29 seconds longer. i can't believe there would be any expert that would testify that there is any situation that putting a knee into someone's neck that is breath less, and taking into the fact that police officers are trained in cpr training. one of his arguments is hey, we don't have the exact training that he got so we should procollude the prosecution from getting into the knitty gritty trying to procollude the prosecution in that way. but again there is no one that
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watches this video that is not just utterly shocked and disturbed especially when he is breathless, unresponsive, handcuffed under the knee of a man who was unresponsive for at least two minutes. >> shack, this involved the body camera video of derek chauvin. it sounds like the jury is not going to see the entirety of that body cam video, do i have that right? >> that is partially right, hallie. what we really saw in that room was eric nelson and the defense trying to admit the entirety of that body camera video. they call it the circumstances analysis. he says it shows you chauvin's
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behavior after george floyd was loaded in the ambulance and taken to the hospital. the state objected to that and you have the judge saying part of that video in terms of what immediately happened once george floyd was taken to the hospital, that that video gives you an idea of his state of mind, his interacts, what he was thinking the judge said that is relevant. in terms of evidence, the judge says that evidence, that part of the video, is not included. so i think you get a sense as we're hearing the back and forth you really understand that what jury sees is truly limited. they're not seeing everything, there is rules of evidence that have to come into play here. but hearsay is usually excluded. one other thing in terms of the
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conversation that we were just listening to, i think what that shows you is you're getting a sense that we're into the use of force phase of this trial. we have one nugget from that argument there is that the state is planning to have a sergeant, who is in charge of crisis intervention training. they're planning to hear testimony from a sergeant in charge of training there. i think you're getting an idea that we will not just hear from the police chief today and that is big testimony in and of itself. but we'll also hear from several other officers that the state wants to speak to in reference to, and connect to, the use of force policies and what officers here in minneapolis are trained to do. that is a hint of what we could hear later today in addition to that big testimony from the police chief, hallie.
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>> yeah, that seems to be a training and use of force argument that the defense is going to try to defend. stay where you are, we're going to take a quick break. we're watching what is happening live down south in georgia where that new law, that restricts voting rights is in court and getting new pushback as we speak. w pushback as we speak. ♪ for decades, most bladder leak pads were similar. until always discreet changed that. by inventing a revolutionary pad, that's incredibly thin. because it protects differently. with two rapiddry layers that overlap, where you need it most.
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impact. and the irony of it is that we were opened up early under the name of giving back to some type of economic recovery. and with one signature that has all been wiped out. >> republican leaders are not backing down with former president trump calling what he calls woke cancel culture. they're trying to get it thrown out because it restricts things like absentee and early voting. not just georgia by the way, 24 other states have similar bills in potion. i want to bring in blaine alexander. talk to us about the new reaction that we're hearing this morning and where it goes next. >> this is the home of the atlanta braves, so you asked
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about the reaction here in georgia, there is one thing they can agree on, they were disappointed to see it leave the state of georgia. it is the businesses, the restaurants, the workers that will really feel the impact of this economically and that's where the agreement ends. you see them blaming each other. so you're hearing from democrats that they are pointing the finger at republicans saying they're upset with the republican led legislature for putting georgia in this situation. brian kemp spoke out over the weekend to defend this voter law saying it makes elections more secure and saying that he is not going to walk away and remaining defiant. take a look. >> i want to be clear. i are not be backing down from this fight. and neither are the people here
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with me today. we will not be intimidated and we will also not be silenced. major league baseball, coca-cola, and delta may be scared of stacey abrams, joe biden, and the left, but i am not. >> i think you're absolutely right when we said we're only seeing the beginning of the backlash for this. you're seeing stronger language from corporations. more people essentially pushing back. more lawsuits coming out in court. yes we saw mlb pull out of the all-star game in georgia. there has been similar calls for the pga tour to do the same thing. we heard that this chip that is
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we're taking you back live now to that minneapolis courtroom where today's first witness for the prosecution is taking the stand. we're going to listen in now to the court. >> if you feel comfortable taki the mask off, we prefer you do that. >> sure. >> as a doctor, i can tell you, you've had both my shots. we would like you to state your full name, spelling each of your name. >> dr. bradford wankhede langenfeld. >> we can call you langenfeld. did you provide emergency care to george floyd after he was taken to the hospital? >> i did. >> i object to lack of
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foundation. >> overruled. >> by way of introduction, are you the physician who officially pronounced him dead that night? >> that is correct, yes. >> were you one of the physicians who tried to save his life? >> objection. >> sustained. >> did you administer care to george floyd on may 25, 2020? >> yes. >> what were you trying to do? >> we were trying to resuscitate mr. floyd. >> to save his life? >> correct. >> why don't we learn a little bit about your background, doctor. where are you currently employed? >> currently, grand rapids, minnesota. i work in richview medical center. >> it's in carver county?
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>> that's correct. >> grand rapids is several hours away from here? >> that's correct. >> why grand rapids? >> i was born there. my hometown. >> it's the hometown of judy garland, isn't it? >> it is, yes. >> are you licensed in emergency medicine? >> i have a minnesota state medical license and practice emergency medicine. >> would you tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury, what is emergency medicine as a practice for a doctor? >> it's a very broad practice. but primarily involves taking care of patients suffering from critical ailments. critical ailments such as strokes, heart attacks, car accidents, other emergencies such as that. but also less emergent conditions, sore throats, urinary tract infections, things like that. >> when were you first licensed?
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>> may of 2020. >> would you tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury a little bit about your educational background? >> i attended medical school at the university of minnesota twin cities. then residency training. >> when did you finish your residency? >> last summer. >> have you ever had any occasion to testify in a court before? >> no, i have not. >> this is the first time? >> that's correct. >> let's go to monday, may 25, 2020, last year, memorial day. do you recall whether you were working that evening? >> i was, yes. >> where were you? >> i was in the emergency department. >> what was your position or title there? >> i was one of the senior
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residents. we're involved with direct patient care, including both critical care and overseeing some of the junior residents. >> do you recall what time your shift began and ended? >> it began at about 1:00 p.m. that day and ended at approximately 11:00 p.m. >> as senior resident, what was your role? >> my role is primarily direct patient care. i work underneath attending physicians as a resident. >> did you also oversee any other residents? >> yes. >> which russ den residents? >> more junior residents earlier in their residency training. >> in terms -- was care administered to george floyd on may 25th by yourself? >> yes. >> who was the person primarily responsible then for george
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floyd's care in the emergency department? >> i provided the majority of direct patient care under supervision of dr. strobel, who was my attending physician at the time. >> were you the primary decision maker? >> i was. >> were you the person responsible for much of the direct patient care? >> yes. >> when mr. floyd's body or mr. floyd was brought in, would you describe it as an emergency situation? >> yes. absolutely. >> what was his condition in terms of his cardiac condition? >> he was in cardiac arrest. >> does cardiac arrest mean that he had had a heart attack? what does that mean? >> overruled. >> not necessarily. >> what does cardiac arrest mean? >> it's defined as sudden
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cessation of blood flow to the body by absence of a carotid purpose. >> if we were to say cardiac arrest means the heart stopped, would that be accurate? >> yes. >> what was your immediate objective when mr. floyd comes in and he is in cardiac arrest? what were you immediately trying to do? >> find a way to get the heart to pump on its own again. the primary goal in cases such as this is to achieve return of spontaneous circulation. part of that process involves trying to identify the cause of the arrest to see if there's any reversible causes and continuing cpr and other life-saving measures. >> time is of the essence? >> yes. >> how did you first learn that
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mr. floyd was being transported to the emergency department? >> i received a -- we call it a zip-it page. it's an ems notification. >> first tell us what ems is. >> emergency medical services. >> a zip-it, is it essentially a text message? how would you describe a zip-it? >> it's like an encrypted text. >> what time did the zip-it come in? >> i don't recall exactly. maybe around 8:50 p.m. >> what information was provided to you for his care or treatment by zip-it? >> the information was that it was a 30-year-old unidentified male who was in cardiac arrest.
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that's as much as i can recall at this time. >> do you recall whether any information was given to you as to what may have happened to him ahead of time, before he got there, to explain the cardiac arrest? >> not at the time. not before he got there. >> did you know at the time he arrived that the patient was, in fact, george floyd? >> i did not. >> you learned that at some point later, that it was george floyd? >> yes. >> did you also know at the time that there was a video or any videos that depicted what had happened to mr. floyd before he was transported to the medical center on may 25th? >> no. >> i object, your honor. >> grounds? >> irrelevant. >> overruled. >> you can answer. were you aware of the existence of any videos as to what happened before he arrived at the medical center?
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>> no. >> did you subsequently learn about videos? >> yes. >> were you able to evaluate your assessments about george floyd in light of the videos? >> yes. >> we will talk about those a little bit later. when you received this zip-it, what did you do in response to it? >> we prepared a bay in our stabilization room, which is essentially a large room with a lot of critical care resources. we sort of prepped a team and got ready to take care of the patient when he arrived. >> do you recall roughly what time mr. floyd would have arrived in the emergency room? >> approximately, 8:55 p.m. >> and when he arrived then, ha?
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>> yes. >> any mechanical devices or other things being used to help to stabilize him? >> yes. there was a cpr device, which is basically a mechanical device that sits across the body with something that almost looks like a plunger and pushes against the chest to provide cpr or chest compressions. >> so this was on mr. floyd when he arrived at the hospital? >> correct. >> did you ever observe at any point in time that his heart was beating on its own? >> not to a degree sufficient to sustain life. >> do you recall who brought mr. floyd into the emergency department? >> i do recall two paramedic


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