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to 6%. but there is some not so good news. the country is still down 9.5 million jobs since the start of the pandemic and the recent gains have come at a cost. because there is a new surge of covid. 11 states have case increases of 10% in the last two weeks. more than a dozen have had major increases of 25%. cases in michigan have spiked a colossal 127% over the past two weeks. which dr. redletter told me yesterday could be due to the new variant mutations. in addition to more relaxed attitudes about pandemic precautions. also in my conversation with marty walsh, he warned about the confluence. growing economy and the pandemic. >> certainly the numbers today were encouraging, 6% unemployment rate, 916,000 new jobs in america. but you're absolutely right, what we have to be careful of is
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is the pandemic and president biden spoke earlier today at a press conference and talked about the need to continuing to wear masks, social and physical distance, wash your hands and the important thing about getting a vaccine. >> meanwhile, we continue to learn new details from the justice department investigation into florida congressman matt gaetz for potential sex crimes. gaetz is reportedly accused of having a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old girl. "new york times" reports that they are focused on gaetz and another florida politician, jeel greenberg indicted for sex trafficking a minor over alleged involvement with multiple women who were recruited online for sex and received cash payment as cording to people close to the investigation and text messages and payment receipts from the man that have been reviewed by the "new york times." gaetz has denied the allegations
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that he paid for sex or had a relationship with a 17-year-old calling the allegation against him totally false citing text messages and interviews "the new york times" reports that during then counter they told times and places to meet at hotels around florida and how much they were willing to pay them. two people familiar with the counters told the "times" that they took ecstasy during the encounter. and gaetz asked to recruit others who might be interested in having sex with him and his friends according to two people familiar with the conversations and depending on the circle in which you roll, this may have been an open secret on capitol hill. "the washington post" citing two people who have heard his comments directly reported that gaetz reportedly bragged to people involved in florida politics about women he met through this other individual. not only that, gaetz reportedly had a penchant for showing off videos on his phone of naked or
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topless women. in a text message, gaetz test texted i have never paid for sex and i have dated women in colonel and graduate school and have boasted about how great they are across the board as boyfriends do. at times women i have dated have joins me at campaign events. back in 2017 gaetz was the only member of congress to vote against a law giving the government more authority to fight human trafficking, arguing that his constituents didn't send him to washington to make government bigger. while there are calling signs for him to resign but he has support of marjorie taylor green and jim jordan. but he's actually on the judiciary committee but his long time director resigned out of principle. joining me now from "the washington post," michael scherer, he's covering this
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story for the post. michael, good morning, thank you for joining us so early this morning. this story gets more complicated and byzantine with each piece of reporting. there is reporting about joel greenberg the acquaintance in florida and about matt gaetz's own involvement. it does seem the two stories are connected. >> our reporting is that joel greenberg, starting 2017, 2018 had a party scene going around him. he was based north of orlando. he was a tax collector and gaetz was his friend and gaetz would hang out with him and after hanging out with him would boast to other people he met about the women he was meeting through greenberg. >> michael, what do we know about the process right now? we know the department of justice has known about this for
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sometime and bill barr was, in fact, briefed on it. but do we know where this stands right now? >> well, we know that greenberg is scheduled to go to trial this summer on a number of charges. and the sex trafficking with a minor is just one of many charges he faces. and we know that there is a separate investigation of gaetz's involvement possibly with an underage person. there is not a timeline on that. and then the third investigation we know about is the one gaetz has been focused on which is a separate investigation into a request that was made of gaetz's father that made reference to this investigation for money to help free or find a former fbi agent who is captured in iran about a decade ago. so it is incredibly complicated. a lot of moving pieces here. but what is clear and what our reporting shows is that during
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this period that is under investigation, gaetz really didn't make much of a secret of his, you know, excitement with an access to women he was meeting through this individual. the question i think for investigators is whether what he was doing was illegal and whether it could be charged as a federal matter. >> right. right. and that is an important distinction. because gaetz apparently, according to your reporting, he was involved in the 2018 gubernatorial race for -- with ron desantis and advisers said that he repeatly suggested that events be scheduled in a way that would end the night in a college town. but hi predilection for women in general is different than the idea than he may be involved in something with do with an underage girl. >> and it is interesting, the congressman has not denied much of this.
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he's been open about paying for hotel rooms or travel for women he dated. he's been open about dating people in college or grad school, even though he's in his mid-30s. he denied anybody that he was dating was underage at the time. >> michael, this is important reporting. thank you for it. michael scherer is a national political reporter for "the washington post." joining mow now is the former form u.s. attorney joyce vance. thank you for joining us. let's just go down that road a little bit more and understand what the legal liability matt gaetz will face if this is proven to be true. if he was paying hotel rooms for anybody, that is not an issue. if they were underage, if they traveled across states and if there was sex involved, or drug involved, that is what complicates this. >> i think that is what is most
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likely, ali, to make it a federal sort of situation. when sex trafficking investigations are conducted you have federal, state and local prosecutors working together to discern the facts and then decide which jurisdiction has criminal liability. but clearly if it is something that involves a woman who is under the age of 18, even without crossing state lines but particularly if there is interstate commerce involved, the feds would likely have an interest in prosecution. >> the distinction here, however, is the -- having sexual relations with someone that is underage. is that crime the same as trafficking, what makes that trafficking? >> it is an entire series of statute in the federal system. for instance, using a computer, using some form of wire communication to entice or lure a miner into having sex with you
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or for sexual purposes, that is a crime in and of itself. and then there is the trafficking statute that we would formally use but there is also something in my office we call the traveller statute. if gaetz has traveled across state lines for the purpose of having sex with a minor, if he flew from washington back to florida or to another city, that could also draw prosecutors' interest. i suspect what is at the heart of this is that we're told that the woman that joel greenberg was charged with trafficking under the age of 18 is someone that gaetz was involved with. so it looks like it is trafficking in that sense. there could be a number of charges, some of which carry hefty mandatory minimum sentences. >> so at the moment, joel greenberg is charged with somewhere higher than 30 offenses, felonies right now. what do you think is happening right now? is this a -- an effort to put
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pressure on greenberg to provide testimony or evidence against gaetz? >> right now, it looks like greenberg is the more culpable of the two. he was involved in a great deal of conduct over a sustained period of time, false i.d., the trafficking issues, the sort of run-of-the-mill public corruption that someone at his level might engage in. it is possible, though, that if he's convicted at trial in anef tort to help himself and spend less time in prison, he might be convinced to cooperate against gaetz and i expect that is one of the hammers prosecutors have over gaetz's head right now. >> a lot of people wonder when they hear about things like this alleged crimes like this, or that these things are known and have been known for some time, as we heard from michael scherer and other reporters, why something hasn't been done about it. we got reporting that the
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department of justice has been known of or investigating this for sometime and it got up to the attorney general, then bill barr. what does it mean to people that something hasn't actually been done? what are we know seeing that might be going on behind the scenes? >> so, on the prosecution side of things, the delay isn't particularly troubling. we want prosecutors to get it right when they indict cases and that involves taking more time than often the public wishes that we took to do that. but on a societal level, these allegations about gaetz were well-known, ali, it is just reprehensible that his colleagues in congress tolerated this sort of behavior. all too often societally, i think we accept this objectification of women in ways that should have been done away with centuries ago. so to see it happen in congress
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and have pushed under the rug is something we need to have a conversation about so it doesn't continue to happen. >> well said, joyce. in addition to whether or not there were any crimes committed here, this objectificationle women at the highest levels of women are something that needs to stop. joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor. well remember when north carolina enacted a transgender bathroom bill dictating what restroom people could use. that cost the state $6.7 billion in lost business and later that bill was partially repealed because of that. and later i'm going to talk to one of the black executives who started a public pressure campaign calling for direct action from corporate american against republican led voter suppression efforts like in georgia. and then there is this, courtesy of "saturday night live."
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53 years ago today, martin luther king jr. was shot by a white racist as he stood on the second floor balcony outside of his motel room in memphis, tennessee. king's dream that all people be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin is a fight that continues today. he was the toast of os lo norway that day and he was celebrated with high honors in new york city. the reception in his home town of atlanta was a different story. it was after all 1964 and atlanta was still a self-segregated city so plans
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for an interracial dinner honoring king were not well supported. tickets weren't selling. so then ceo of coca-cola jay paul austin did something about it. he spent a number of years in south africa knew firsthand what apartheid had done and determines that atlanta not follow suit so the mayor summoned theelite business leaders to the 18th floor dining room of the commerce club where it is reported that jay paul austin said it is embarrassing for coca-cola to be located in a city that refused to honor the international prize winner. you need to decide whether atlanta needs the coca-cola company. there were no cries of cancel culture or left wing ideology. they saw the city on the wrong side of history and acted. two hours after that meeting,
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every ticket to the dinner was told and nearly 1600 people attended. today the corporate world is taking action. they are condemning restriction voter laws. on friday maine baseball announced they will move the game out of atlanta because of the new voter restrictions. the republican governor was outraged by this the decision blaming liberal cancel culture. but it is not cancel culture to respond to democracy weakening legislation. stopping people from voting, well, that is actually cancel culture. and once again, coca-cola along with other major corporations based in georgia have been called on to do the right thing. and in a historic open letter, 72 black executives called on all corporations, no matter their locations to oppose the voting restrictions. let's make clear why all of this is happening. this is happening because of activists who care about protecting the right to vote,
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this is what it took to stir the private sector into action. this split screen from ten days ago. one side, the republican governor signing into law an all out attack on voters, on the other side a black state representative being hauled away in handcuffs for the crime of knocking on governor kemp's door. the state of georgia is ground zero for the battle over voting rights. activists have been shouting from the rooftops for weeks but
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it wasn't until brian kemp signed that into law under a painting of slave plantation while a black official was dragged off by armed men and then corporates started to treat this battle like what it is. on wednesday more than 70 black business executives fired off an open letter and corporates standing idly by on the side lines, the message was clear, quote, there is no middle ground here. you either are for more people voting or you want to suppress the vote. that is part of what was in there. on friday, major league baseball announced it will pull the all-star game. joining me now is one of the black executives who started a corporate movement. ray mcguire, good morning, thank you for being with us. >> good morning, thank you for having me and happy easter to those who are observers. >> let's talk about this letter. what got it started.
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it is one of the few times we've seen so many current and former senior executives, corporate leaders, wall street people like yourself rally around a particular cause and have a real call to action for those two whom you wrote that letter? >> you know, we came together as individuals who stand on the shoulders of those who fought so hard for us to get the right to vote. we come together as long-standing leaders in the corporate world. and we came together as americans who respect and have helped to create the fund. al values of america. so we came together to make sure that all of america knew that it needed to stand up for what is the cornerstone of our democracy. >> there was hesitation on the side of some businesses, jamie dimon from jp morgan chase led the charge against this voter suppression fed by this big lie. but companies like delta and
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cocoa -- coca-cola came out with comments that said we came out with improvements to the law. the language is changed. corporate america is calling that law what it is. it is anti-voter, it is anti-democratic. >> there is no debate here. this is nonpartisan. this is fundamentally who we are as americans. this is a contract that america has with america and that contract is the right to vote. not to the right to suppress the vote. >> let me ask you about related experience, not about voting but about being black. you were on the way to shoot a commercial, you're running for mayor of new york and you were on the way to shoot a commercial one morning and you don't live far from where i do in manhattan and you got pulled over by the police. tell me about this. this is the commercial, we're looking at it on tv right now.
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what was that about? >> ali, it is just one -- yet another incident of what happens when you're black in america. this is driving while black. we need to stop this divisive narrative. we have spent a number of years through the heights and depths of the civil rights movement to get to where we are today and today that narrative coming more divides. we see anti-semitism, anti-asian. we have long seen anti-black. and so if this country is to survive the scripture and the leadership of the country says a nation and country divided could not survive so these instances which are all too many, one of which is on trial today, daniel chauvin is on trail for the abuse, the over aggressiveness, we need better policing, better policing. and this country needs to see if can't dig dig to express the best of us and not the worst of
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us which is what the voting attempts to do. there are 47 states now with over 300 pieces of legislation attempted to suppress the vote. >> and your right, corporate america has come out in the last week about georgia. but you've said georgia is just the tip of the iceberg. you want the companies to take a stand against voter suppression everywhere in america and part of the danger is the statements that came out from the corporations encouraged the idea that georgia is taking steps to keep voting secure. there is nothing in this law that would do anything to keep voters secure and the same thing in arizona, iowa and michigan. >> it is everywhere. there is a undergirding that is taking place here that we need to address and call it out for what it is. as a brennan center reports, 47 states with 300 pieces of legislation pending now to suppress america, to see if the
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values, to test the values of our democracy. there is no -- there is no alternative here. this is not partisan. this is america. there is no debate. this is bright, clear and unequivocal. unless we stand up today, tomorrow this country will not be what the founding fathers suggested or stating that this should be. it is not the america that we all live for. this is what is under siege. this is what we have to dress. we have to address it today and boldly and we have to be reserved. >> i appreciate your time, sir. ray mcguire is the former vice chairman of citigroup and candidate for new york city. we appreciate you making time for us today. well officers injured outside of the capitol has been released from the hospital. you could see him there getting out of the wheelchair to a cheering crowd. the officer has been with the capitol police for ten years and has two young children.
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don't wait for a break, call your doctor today, and ask about prolia®. the images of rioting and blood shed at the capitol have been on our minds since the trump inspired mob on january 6th. then more violence and another loss of capitol police officer. violence at the seat of
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america's government isn't newbie the way. take the infamous caining of charps sumner of massachusetts in 1856. he made a speech targeting racist proslavery lawmakers in the south, specifically a family member of preston b fily approa sumner on the senate floor and beat him senseless with his cane until the cane shattered and then he kept beating him. sumner was moments away from death and couldn't return to his government responsibles for three years and even then dealt with chronic debilitation for the rest of his life. but fast forward to present day and we're sitting on the aftermath of the violence in the capitol within the fate of the public access on lockdown and in question. again, because of extremist hatred and race. joining me now is jane campbell, ceo of the capitol historical society and the former mayor of
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cleveland, ohio and served as the chief of staff for mary landrieu. good to have you here. thank you for joining us. the last three months has made us think about bits of history around the capitol that we take for granted or don't realize but that building has been home to remarkable democracy but great violence. >> good morning, ali, yes, tragically the building has been. but what is different right now is this is the first time there have been two incidents so close together. and so we really are concerned that the capitol is our temple of democracy, it is the symbol of where we come together and that it should become a place where people go to attack is tragic and it is something
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that -- [ inaudible ]. >> i want to quote from on op ed that you wrote for the hill in which you say the government of the people and by the people starts being less so with every measure that distances americans from their representative government. so whether it is from 9/11 or show our audience back to 1915, things that happened at the united states senate or house that were -- that caused extra security to be put in place. you are worried that the more you distance people from the legislators, the more distance that temple of democracy becomes? >> well, here is the issue. we have to both secure our democracy and secure the capitol and the people who work there. i honestly believe that it is -- if you look at the honore report he talked about the importance of investing in intelligence and what happened on friday is that immediately you saw the national
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guard, the d.c. police, and the capitol police come together and they stopped the threat. tragically, tragically we had on officer die and an officer injured. but the security worked. even though the external fence had been removed. and so we have to think about how do the way that we secure our democracy is by encouraging people to feel as if that -- that the people that work in that building work for us and are going to listen to us. >> what is your sense of what the future looks like? again, you have the context of history with you. and the fact that there has been a lot of violence at the capitol. what does the future look like to you? in a year are we still looking at a fence's off capitol or will people be able to walk their grounds again and see their
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members of congress in action, such an important part of democracy? >> let me tell you, that each time there has been an incident, the immediate reaction is to barricade the capitol from the public. and each time congress decides that access to the capitol and access to the public is important. right now, we are in a situation where there is a discussion about creating a commission to look at violence against the capitol in the light of january 6th and now in the light of this last friday. that commission should move forward. when we had 9/11, there was a commission but it took almost a year for the legislation to get passed, for that commission to get created and the commission didn't make its report until 2004. and so we have to deal a little more timely with the fact that
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our capitol has been closed to the public for public health reasons, because of covid. and as we're beginning to see things open up, we were all hoping that the capitol would be one of the things that would open up. and so we want to continue to see that balance. and i think all of the members of congress that have spoken that i've heard on your show and others talk about the importance of people coming to the capitol, of school groups coming to the capitol. but we also want to make sure that it is secure. >> yep, i think we could hold both of those thoughts at the same time, that it needs to be safe and a place that people could feel free to go and watch their democracy in action. especially in these days where we worried about democracy in peril. jane campbell, the president and ceo of the u.s. capitol historical society. well a 38-year-old man has
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another hate crime against asian-americans was captured on newly released video footage this week. in it a man yelled racist slurs at the asian-american owners during broad daylight. this is days after new york police arrested a man who attacked an asian-american woman in manhattan. it is disturbing. the perpetrator was heard yelling you don't belong here and assaulting her while bystanders could be seen looking at doing nothing to intervene.
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although the cameras angle doesn't show it, the victim's brought wrote on a gofundme page for her mother that a bystander across the street did step in. that person who has remain add none mus yelled and screamed to get the assailants attention. from stop aapi hate, stopped hate incidents in the last year alone. my colleague richard lui believes what could change the tide of hate in this think piece for he writes in part, that now is the time for a movement to protect and embrace the aapi community. we need allies to stand with us and to help us. not just with their words. there are big tasks ahead that require big investments. we need a march on the mall in may. time for apa heritage month and we need a reinvigorated
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presidential advisory on the aapi history and a push for landmarks that reflect 200 years of aapi contributions. joining me now is richard lui out with a brand-new book that hit stores this week. enough about me, the unexpected power of selflessness. and a senior trainer at holler back bystander training. i'm glad to have you here. richard, nice to see you. i saw you more recently than expected on friday night on tv but it is good to have you here. you are outlining a range of things that could be done. which is an answer to a question a lot of people have. what can i do? alliesship is something that we've learned about it is more than what i'm with you, brother, it is things that change the way asian-americans and pacific islanders are seen in america. >> ally, good to see you. and in that think piece, it is a little bit much, i must say. i took off my journalist hat for
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a moment and put on my hat as an asian-american pacific islander and those ideas are the demarkations, they are the manifestations avenue group that is not a perennial foreigner and that is the wrapper that asian-americans are put around. the 200 years from the railroads on ward to vincen chen in 1982, there isn't another tent pole. so the idea behind that think piece is that let's look at those sort of demarkations that says this group has contributed a lot to the united states to offset the idea they could be a punching bag during tough times and they will not respond. that is the cultural dynamic in the united states of the group if you happen to look like me and you and others. and that is a problem. so that is the idea behind it. but guess what, as you know this week, the white house did announce a reinvigorated commission, a presidential
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commission for api's. you dax, first of all, a number of my staff have signed up for the bystander training but tell us what this is. we thought life is bystander training? >> good morning. thank you for having me. life is bystander training but sometimes we just don't know what to do. so in our trainings, in our partnership with asian-americans advance just aaac, we are helping take care of people experiencing harassment. now what we do with bystander intervention, we want to address bee may havor and actions that make our spidey sense tingle. that somebody says a comment that sits wrong with you. so we want to be able to empower people to address it and all of those things before it escalated to actions that we've seen listed in the news and
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especially this week and throughout 2021, especially. so we have five tactics. so we have methodology called the five d's. first one is distract, creating a to de-escalate. delegate, asking somebody else to help you. document. if you feel safe and comfortable, consider taking a photo or a video of the incident of harassment. delay. after the incident of harassment is over you check in with the person who was experiencing that harassment and how to support them and, direct. which is the version of bystander intervention everybody thinks about. some version of, hey, stop doing that. we always emphasize the bystander safety. we want you to prioritize your safety before you decide to intervene. >> richard, following the trial of derek chauvin and killing of george floyd i was fascinated to hear something from all of the
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bystanders, the video shows tried to intervene. talking to police. asking him to get off his neck, he can't breathe, he's not responsive yet every one had a version of guilt for not doing more. occurred to me, wow. shouldn't be feeling guilt for what derek chauvin did to george floyd but they felt a need to do more. three called police. they were taking videos. they did get involved, but we're definitely in a new world and we have to think of each other as brothers and sisters and say how do i do what i can do either on my professional level or in the moment to stop this. >> yeah. the heart and souls that we saw during the chauvin trial describes that, although on camera or off we heard it in their voice, the compassion. right? the love of other people. you were there last weekend, and the advance of the trial, and these are the sort of characters we all represent. so the hollow back training, the five ds, keys in on that, okay,
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we care. what can we do. the interesting dynamic why something like this, upstanding training, bystander training is important especially for the asian-american communities, they have the lowest rate saying i am comfortable with reporting. very comfortable with doing something. three in ten according to survey monkey and api data out in the last week. this sort of activating the idea that you just brought up, ali, is especially relevant when looking at, well, all groupance, but in the aapi group, the least likely to want to do something and by the way in that same poll, ali, they did say they were most worried about a second altercation, if they, maybe, were to report or to say something about that hate incident. >> yeah. which full circle, exactly why everybody else has to get involved. right? you have to feel safe that the community, your community at large, meaning your neighbors,
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the people around you, the people on the subway with you, have your back. i think what's interesting, i want to ask my control room to put the five ds up again. the point you've been making is, be wary of your own safety. this is note a directive. at least when stuck in that moment, you see somebody beaten, assaulted, attacked, you don't have a go-to. you're saying use this at least as your go-to. these are things you might do if wondering how to deal with something. >> exactly. if somebody -- again, like scaling it backwards, we want to be addressing things like, where are you from? where are you really from? i'm from california. micromshg aggressiaggressions w tactics. as people get familiar with them it becomes second nature they'll be able to intervene quicker next time. again, being safe. so, you know, the bystander effect is, everybody is standing around waiting for the first person to do something.
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and it does take courage for the first person to do something, but it doesn't have to be a big, heroic action. it can just be a clarifying question. what's going on here? >> small things. >> and others can get clued in, and help. help support that person in conflict. >> yeah. yeah. something's basing, what's going on here? interestingly, richard, the breaking news guy of breaking news guys at msnbc and seen a lot of these things, but when you look at the video e from george floyd, one of the things you see is that even though those bystanders didn't think they did enough, what they did, by -- by taping the incident, by saying those things to the police, sewing response of the police saying something, calling 911 to report what they had done. awe collectively may mean that another police officer may not do to another man like george floyd what happened there. so those were, in fact, important actions that were taken by those bystanders. >> yeah.
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calling the police on the police. right? those are the words that were used as we were covering the trial when we were looking at some of the testimony. and those little things develop a muscle set. right? and those, as we watched the rest of this case develop, might paint that picture you're just describing. it's the little things. self-less things, five ds muscle sets to activate so when we are ready, which is what i write and thank you for bringing up the book, but earlier i write about, develop that tone so you're ready to act. >> gentlemen, good to see you both. dax, thank you for inventing and training people on this. my staff is looking forward to being involved in it. and richard, you and i friends a very long time and colleagues two different networks but rarely are on tv together. two times in one weekend. appreciate that. richard lui, award-winning journalist a piece on msnbc daily and a new book coming out
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