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are thrilled to be among the first of micki's press clips. that's all the time i have for today. i'm alicia menendez. i'll see you back here tomorrow, 6:00 p.m. esche. but for now, i hand it over to my colleague joshua johnson. hello, joshua. >> that is very good news about alexandra. always welcome a cute baby story to end a very difficult week. good to see you. and it is good to see you tonight as well. speaking of a busy week capitol is drawing battle lines over president biden's infrastructure plan. and not just between democrats and republicans. what is the strategy for pushing the bill through a gridlocked senate? we'll talk to the chair of the house transportation and infrastructure committee, congressman peter defazio is here. today, georgia's governor hit back at major league baseball for moving the all-star game out of atlanta. >> major league baseball put the wishes of stacey abrams and joe biden ahead of the economic
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well-being of hardworking georgians. >> more than 40 states are considering restrictive bills. what could this mean for them? and then later -- >> no, you can't paint me as angry. i was in a position where i had to be controlled. >> a special report on the derek chauvin murder trial. we will break down the moments you may have missed including new video and emotional testimony for the prosecution. from nbc news world headquarters in new york, i'm joshua johnson. welcome to "the week." the u.s. has reached some major goals in the fight against covid-19. yesterday more than 4 million vaccine doses were administered. that's a new high. the cdc says more than 100 million americans have received at least one dose. that's nearly a third of the
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u.s. population. and those shots cannot come fast enough. right now more than half of states are reporting an increase in cases. also yesterday we got the latest overall unemployment rate. it's down a bit to 6%. the u.s. added more than 900,000 jobs last month. but president biden cautioned that these signs of progress may be temporary. >> the progress we've worked so hard to achieve can be reversed. on the economic front, the benefits and the impacts of the american rescue plan are temporary by design. it was a -- it is a rescue plan. but as we get the economy back on its feet, we need to do the hard work of building back better for good, not just for a while but for good. not just for short-term but for good. that's why i proposed the american jobs plan on wednesday
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in pittsburgh. >> and that plan is the infrastructure bill, a sweeping proposal. among other things it would rebuild 20,000 miles of roads, expand access to clean water and affordable housing and invest in care for the elderly and the disabled. it's paid for partly by raising the corporate tax rate, but its path forward is unclear. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell says president biden can rule out republican support. >> i'm going to fight him every step of the way because i think this is the wrong prescription for america. that package that they're putting together now, as much as we would like to address infrastructure, it's not going to get support from our side. >> that might leave the president with one option, budget reconciliation. now, typically, reconciliation is used just once per fiscal year, but majority leader chuck schumer is pushing the senate parliamentarian to allow a never before used rule.
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it could spare democrats from getting 60 votes to break a filibuster. but even if the parliamentarian rules in their favor, are the 51 votes there? we'll talk to a member of congress about the bill's chances. but we begin with some breaking news. and update on yesterday's deadly attack at the u.s. capitol. it left one officer dead and another injured after a man rammed his car into a checkpoint. let's get to nbc lian caldwell h the latest. what can you tell us? >> hey, joshua. there is some good news in this story late tonight, and that is the second officer who was injured because of the attack, who went to the hospital, has now been released late -- earlier this evening. our colleague alex mo confirmed this. and so, there is some very good news, that the second officer who was injured has been released from the hospital and he is doing well, joshua. >> that is extremely good news
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to hear that one officer has been released. talk now about what the mood is like around washington and capitol hill, i'm sure that helps provide a little bit of relief after an extremely wrenching day yesterday. >> it absolutely does. just the slightest sliver of good news after a very tragic day yesterday with the death of one officer of capitol police. so what this is doing, this is going to continue the discussion over security, over how the capitol should proceed. of course, after january 6th, there was this intense security presence of 25,000 national guard that has now depleted to just a few hundred to a couple thousand. there was an outer perimeter fence that had just been taken down a couple weeks ago. that is why that car was able to drive down to constitution avenue and access the entrance to the capitol. and we know those discussions are going to continue and going to intensify. there's a statement tonight from senate majority leader chuck
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schumer, and he talked about the security discussions. and i'm going to read part of that statement. and it says that the death of officer evans has only added to the need to address security at the capitol in a comprehensive way following the insurrectionist attack on january 6th. he goes on to say senate committees are already conducts bipartisan and expensive reviews to ensure the capitol is as secure as possible while also remaining accessible to the public. and of course that is a delicate balance that lawmakers and law enforcement have to determine when they're deciding what security looks like. because in normal times, precovid times, prejanuary 6th times, the capitol is usually open to the public, joshua. >> have we learned anything more about officer evans, the capitol police officer who died? >> a few more details are coming out about his life. we know that he is 41 years old. we know he grew up in north adams, massachusetts, and he has
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two young children named logan and abigail. and he was someone who reporters and lawmakers and staff really enjoyed. he's worked at the entrance of the capitol on the senate side, and it is an extremely difficult day of course for his family and for the capitol police community who had already been suffering in the aftermath of january 6th, with quite low morale. we know that the senate majority chuck schumer and house speaker nancy pelosi have both spoken to his family. and speaker pelosi late last night called him a martyr for democracy, joshua. >> it's so wild to see that scene right there we're looking at, at constitution and delaware avenues. a lot of us who lived in washington know really well, be the scene of such a large crime. one more thing i did want to ask you about, leigh ann, before i let you go.
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certainly not on par with this story but got washington talking, and that's the controversy over florida congressman matt gaetz. he's the subject of an fbi investigation into a possible relationship with a 17-year-old girl. i understand you spoke to house minority leader kevin mccarthy about that. what did he say? >> i did. and i asked him if he should still serve on the judiciary committee. this is a question many democrats have brought up, saying he should be removed from that committee. this is what kevin mccarthy had to say that to question. >> doj has not told me anything. if a member of my conference gets indicted, they'll get removed from a committee. he says this is not true and we have a newspaper report that says something else. we'll find out. no, i didn't know about it. yes, i'm surprised about it. yes, i want to get to the bottom of it. i haven't been able to speak to mr. gaetz, but i will. >> so indictment seems to be mccarthy's red line on removing him from that committee. but now as time has gone on, more has come out about the allegations about matt gaetz.
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democratic lawmakers are not only calling for him to be removed from the committee, but also to be removed from congress, saying he should not serve because he is the subject of a criminal investigation. so this is a story that is just beginning, joshua. >> thank you, leigh ann. let's get back to that infrastructure plan. some folks are calling it a once in a generation package. on top of repairing much of the nation's connective tissue, roads, houses, broadband, it also aims at america's heart, with a focus on racial equity and environmental justice. some progressive democrats say they want more from the bill. some republicans say they are dead set against the tax increases intended to pay for it. so what will this plan look like after it moves through congress? let's continue now with democratic congressman peter defazio of oregon. he's the chairman of the house transportation and infrastructure committee. his district is in southwest oregon including eugene. congressman defazio, good evening.
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>> joshua, thanks for having me on. >> so what about that in terms of moving it through congress? we know republicans have said they're not okay with raising taxes to pay for this. polling suggests the american people support at least some of the parts of this bill. so what does the future look like in terms of negotiating this? is this going to be another one of those bills all the democrats are going to get behind and all the republicans going to vote against, or is there room for some bipartisanship? >> let's not dwell on how it's paid for. for too long, we've delayed rebuilding our infrastructure. we're living off the eisenhower legacy, in fact. for sewer and water systems, we're living of systems, some of them built in the 19th century, early 20th century. americans are tired of potholes. they're tired of congestion. they're tired of bridges that collapse. they're tired of water mains that blow up and sewers that back up. americans want to see this country, you know, get into the 21st century with infrastructure.
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there's bipartisan agreement on that. obviously, yeah, there's differences how we'll pay for it. there are also differences on how much this is going to deal with climate change. the bill i passed out of my committee last year, republicans called it green new deal 2.0. they said, you know, that's going too far. no. transportation is the single largest contributor to carbon pollution in the united states of america. so the good news is we can rebuild it, give ourselves a 21st century system, resilient to climate change and severe weather events, sea level rise. and we can also deal with fossil fuel pollution and help people with their daily lives in terms of their commutes and help american business be more competitive in the world. this is not just once in a generation. it has been, you know, more than a generation since we've tackled this problem. >> i hear you on that, but i think we do have to worry about how the bill is paid for, because we the american people have to pay for it.
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is there a way to fund this bill that you think both parties can get behind? >> well, look, there wasn't a single democrat who supported the trump tax cuts pushed through with reconciliation, and that's the president's starting proposal, is, let's rescind some of those tax cuts, which benefitted the largest corporations of the world, 55 largest corporations in america didn't pay a penny in federal taxes last year. hey, anybody who works in this country pays taxes, with dollar one through fica. that's not right. so, he's talking about things that democrats support. there can be some room for compromise here. traditionally, we've paid for infrastructure with user fees. there's ways to finance this, with bonds and potentially with user fees. but that's all going to be worked out. but let's just focus on what needs to be done to bring this country to the 21st century on infrastructure first. that's my job. i don't get to do the financing. that's ways and means committee. that's finance. that's above my pay grade.
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i've got ideas, but you know, i'm not going to be the one that gets to determine that. >> one of the other big elements of this plan is the push to advance racial equity through an infrastructure plan. what are some of the ways you think that might be achieved? >> oh, that's a fabulous element of his plan, but i put that policy in my plan last time. we divided many communities particularly communities of color with the interstate system, and a lot of that stuff is aging out, so, it's a unique opportunity to say, well, wait a minute, that skyway, it's got to go, so, let's rejoin that community and find an alternative to move that traffic. the president mentioned one in louisiana, a great example. and those are scattered all around the country. we're also talking about racial equity in terms of opportunities for employment with these jobs. these are going to be great jobs, family wage jobs with benefits.
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and we want to bring in the minority community who's been left out so far and so long on these job opportunities. and there's a big component of the bill that does that with working training, retraining. and we're not just talking about even just minority communities. we're talking about a lot of rural areas that are left behind in this country, like in my district, and we're going to service them, too, with this bill. >> before i let you go, congressman defazio, i should ask you about what happened at the capitol, particularly because there was an ongoing conversation about what should be done to secure the capitol complex. after the attack yesterday, and granted, the barrier that stopped the vehicle is a barrier that's been there before, so that's not a new part of security at the capitol. but given what happened yesterday, where do you stand in terms of what you want to see there before you feel as safe as you did there before january 6th?
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>> you know, i thought the capitol was the safest place in the world, though leading up to the 6th, i knew there was going to be an attempt to stop the vote count, for trump to perpetuate his presidency. in fact i went out and bought bear spray because i can't have a gun in d.c. >> i apologize for interrupted. you said you went and bought bear spray before january 6th to protect yourself in the capitol? >> yeah, i knew there was going to be violence. i mean, come on. what a massive intelligence failure. of course there was going to be violence. trump started talking about it in pittsburgh. you know, if they don't count those votes, i'm still president, because it goes to the states and i win. this was a concerted and i believe planned and encouraged effort by the president and his minions, particular stone and all those losers. and, you know, the fact that the capitol was undefended and unprepared because it was a, you know, a trump mob, that's
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another issue that raises a lot of questions about how we react to protesters. you know, depending on what their color or race is. so there's a whole lot of questions. we need to have a thorough investigation of all the failures and find a path forward. i'm glad homeland now is focused on domestic terrorism, something trump totally ignored. white supremacy, trump ignored and encouraged. we're getting on a better track here, but there's a heck of a lot to do. >> peter defazio, thank you for making time for us. >> thanks, joshua. enjoyed it. coming up, hundreds of new bills could restrict voting in more than 40 states. how will the corporate backlash against georgia's law effect others like it? also next hour, our special report on the derek chauvin trial. what does this week's emotional testimony mean for the case? our legal analysts will help us break it down as "the week" continues on msnbc.
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major league baseball is back, but the all-star game is out of georgia. yesterday the mlb announced it will pull the game from atlanta. this comes after georgia passed a controversial voting law last week. this morning, atlanta's mayor keisha lance bottoms said there's still time for the governor to make things right. >> it's not too late for the legislature to go back and reconsider this. they are out of session, but the
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governor certainly can call a special session, have them reconsider this, make tweaks to it so that it is truly a bill that expands access to the right to vote. i think this is just the first of many dominos that will fall in this state, and we are all going to suffer because of it. >> now, this is not just happening in georgia. in less than five weeks, lawmakers across the u.s. have introduced more than 300 restrictive voting bills in just about every state. joining us now is kavitha davidson, a sports and culture writer for "the atlantic." and also coauthor of "loving sports when they don't love you back: dilemmas of the modern fan." welcome to the program. >> thank you. >> what is your sense of the league's move to pull the game out of atlanta? what does that tell you? >> i mean, i think first of all, it says that the league realizes it had to make a decision on this. my colleague at the athletic wrote a great piece where he
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talked to a bunch of sources who said there was no one factor that went into it. but at the end of the day, commissioner rob manfred decided not pulling the game would make an even bigger statement than pulling it. and i think the second thing, which is probably the biggest thing, is that it was a good business decision, is what it really came down to. i think we can talk about whether players wanted this decision, whether they were consulted. it doesn't seem they were. whether they would have boycotted the game when it actually came around. but it really does seem this comes down to sponsor pressure or at least fear people like coca-cola or delta would be put in a tough situation had this game taken place in atlanta. >> you can see that big red coca-cola logo inside the park where the braves play. do you get a sense there was a last straw that sort of made the mlb say, okay, that's it, this is the decision we're making? >> it doesn't seem like there's a last straw. again, it seems like there were about 30 different factors that went into mlb's decision here.
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among them were, in the last year, mlb and various teams across the league made a commitment, at least on paper and in some of their initiatives, to foster voter registration drives. the miami marlins, for example, derek jeter is the ceo there, released a statement today in support of mlb pulling the game where he pointed to the fact the marlins had an initiative to hand food out to voters waiting in line. and that's something this bill in georgia directly prohibits. so, i think there was really just a concerted effort and a concerted idea that this does run counter to everything mlb has at least claimed it stands for in the last year. and now it's actually time to show that it is committed to these initiatives. >> where does this go from here? i mean, on monday, the masters begins at augusta national golf club, that runs through next week. there are some calls to boycott the masters. some have called for the masters to relocate from augusta national, which seems highly unlikely, but there are calls for that. what do you make of that? i mean, is this the kind of
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thing that's likely to snowball or are there certain events like, i could contend, the masters, that seem unlikely to make that kind of change. >> yeah, i wrote about this on monday at the athletic before mlb made this decision and the masters aren't going anywhere. the masters are not moving from -- from augusta. i think a really important distinction that needs to be made here, the pga tour doesn't actually operate the masters, that is operated by augusta national itself. so, they can't, as a league or an association make that decision for the masters. however, the tour championship at east lake gulf club in georgia is in september and that is operated by the pga tour. so, that is an event that they can pull. the s.e.c. championship game and college football is scheduled to be in atlanta as well. so there are definitely future events we could see mlb's move here having a snowball effect on. >> georgia's governor brian kemp responded to the decision by the league to pull the game out of
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atlanta. here's part of what he said. >> georgians and all americans should know what this decision means. it means cancel culture and partisan activists are coming for your business. they're coming for your game or event in your hometown. and they're coming to cancel everything from sports to how you make a living. >> i'm not sure the governor's argument holds a lot of water. i mean, the major league has not canceled the all-star game. the all-star game is still going to be played, it just won't be in atlanta. >> that's exactly right. the all-star game will be moved and there's actually precedent for this. a few years ago, the nba moved the all-star game out of charlotte after north carolina passed hb-2, which was the bathroom bill that prohibited trance transgender individuals from choosing which bathroom they use.
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it was repealed and the next year the all-star game came back to charlotte. nothing has actually been canceled in this case. >> kavitha, thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up, the pentagon issued new policies on transgender people serving in the military. do they go far enough? trans activist and writer raquel willis joins us when we come back. how great is it that we get to tell everybody how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? i mean it... uh-oh, sorry... oh... what? i'm an emu! no, buddy! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. ♪
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transgender people are people. this should go without saying, but considering what many trans people deal with today, it clearly needs to be said. and this week for the first time ever, it was said officially by a president. joe biden issued the first presidential proclamation recognizing transgender day of visibility. the day honors trans and gender nonbinary people around the globe. it also calls attention to the
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violence and discrimination these communities face, especially trans women of color. also this week, the pentagon announced new policies that make it easier for transgender people to serve in the military. meanwhile, an increasing number of gop-led state legislatures are proposing anti-trans bills. on monday, the arkansas senate passed a bill that would ban access to gender-affirming care for transgender minors. that would include things like hormone treatments or puberty blockers, which, we should note, are reversible. joining us now is raquel willis, a trans activist and award winning writer. raquel is part of an effort to expand trans visibility day into a week. good evening. welcome. >> hi, thank you for having me. >> before i dive in may i ask what pronouns should you use when referring to you? >> i use she and her. what should i use with you? >> he, him and his. thank you for asking. just wanted to make sure before we dive in.
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what did you make of the white house proclamation? how did that strike you? >> yeah, i think it's great anytime we can see the president acknowledging the transgender community. trans visibility is an important day for so many folks. it acknowledges so many social strides we've made in our culture and society. >> you wrote a piece this week in "the nation" called "visibility alone will not keep transgender youth safe." tell us more about that, about the point you were making in that piece. >> yes. you know, i think we have seen so much more representation of trans people, of course, on various screens and hollywood and even now more so politically. but of course, we're also in a time where that visibility has become a double-edged sword in many ways and so that means that we are also seeing heightened anti-trans legislation around the country. i mean, our transgender youth are in a vulnerable position
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right now, as largely conservative politicians are trying to enact all types of bans, whether it's from accessing health care for trans youth and trans people trying to buy coverage and insurance or access to playing the sport that some of these youth are so devly invested and passionate about. >> why do you think so many of these bills are moving forward now? what's behind this? >> well, you know, i think that we have had a long history in the united states of criminalization of people who are considered gender nonconforming, right? if you go back and look at some of the historic anti-cross-dressing laws, i mean even looking at the stonewall riots, which kind of sparked the modern lgbtq-plus movement. a lot of that fight was criminalizing people who were not falling in line with how men are supposed to act or how women are supposed to act or dress.
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so now we're seeing a continuation of some of those bathroom bills from just a few years ago, and they've kind of morphed. i think that the conservative fleet of folks have gotten more pinpointed and are targeting trans youth. >> i think some of this is so wild, in a way, because at least when you look at the pentagon issues these guidelines in terms of how transpeople can serve in the military, we've kind of gone back to the future in a way, because we've already been through this. the pentagon already commissioned a report that found that the military could integrate transgender service members, including supporting them through gender reassignment, without any damage to unit cohesion or, you know, unreasonable expenses to the military, which we should be clear, it is the world's largest employer and the largest chunk of the u.s. government, so, i don't think the cost is going to matter. but we've already kind of answered some of these questions. it almost feels like you take a step forward and then a step back and then kind of inch forward all over again.
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>> absolutely. i mean, we can't underestimate the major setback of having former president donald trump was in office was to the fight for so many groups on the margins and particularly the transgender community. the facts are definitely on our side. i think what's going on is that a lot of the conservative fleet of folks who are anti-trans are really trying to exploit the fact that there's still so much misinformation out there, so much ignorance about the transgender experience. there are still many polls that say a fair chunk of folks in the united states say they don't know a transgender person personally. and so that means there's a lot of wiggle room for a lot of this misinformation and fear mongering. >> before i have to let you go, since you mentioned the number of people who don't know a trans person. fergs of all, i don't know why it should matter you know a trans person to accept trans people are people.
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but before i let you go, for people who do feel that way, i'm not anti, i just don't really know anyone who's trans so i don't know what to think, what to ask. i have no foundation for establishing a belief system at all. what would you say to them about what you want cisgender people to know about transgender people? >> yeah, you know, i think the interesting thing is that we are all on a gender journey. we all have a gender identity and are impacted by restrictive ideas of who we're supposed to be. so i think we've got to break down the notion that trans people are so radically different. right? and we all deserve the same access to employment, education, housing, health care and to achieve our dreams. and i think that's what the trans community is largely trying to fight for. and i think the other thing i will add here is, you know, i want to see more from the biden/harris administration, particularly when it comes to what's happening to trans youth all across the country. what does it mean when the
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military says, oh, well, you can be hired, but when you leave the military, you can still face diskrim nation all across this country? >> raquel willis, i appreciate you making time for us tonight. thank you very much. >> thank you. just ahead at the top of the hour, our special report on the trial of derek chauvin. we will review dramatic witness testimony and show you new video that prosecutors unveiled this week. how does the case stand after this first week? our team of legal experts will weigh in. that's ahead on msnbc at 9:00 eastern. up next, the cdc's new guidance for vaccinated americans. where should you go and what should you do? up to zero leaks because it locks blood in up to zero bunching because it flexes no worries. just always flexfoam
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can safely travel at home and abroad. officials do advise you to continue wearing a mask. it's not for you so much as it is for others. vaccination gives you strong protection against getting covid, but you might still be able to spread it. msnbc's scott kohn is at san francisco international airport with me. scott, yesterday was a really busy travel day. tell us more about that and about these new guidelines. >> yeah, it does seem this is one more area of american life that is starting to get back to normal. that of course can be a double-edged sword. but the tsa says yesterday, good friday, as people headed out for the holiday weekend, more than 1.5 million people were screened at tsa check points across the country. that is the highest number since march 12th of last year, so just before the shutdowns began. one thing that means is you need to get back to getting to the airport early if you're traveling because there are lines again and they are socially distanced lines. so people were not necessarily
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waiting for this, but the cdc did as you mentioned come out with some new guidelines. first of all, for fully vaccinated travelers, this is if you are two weeks after your second pfizer or moderna dose or your single johnson & johnson dose, you no longer need to take a test before domestic travel or when you come back, although that depends also on local guidelines. you need to check into that. you should, though, get tested three to five days after international travel, as they continue to monitor for the variants of the disease. no quarantine needed anymore, again subject to local regulations. and they still want you to wear a mask, wash your hands and social distance. now, for everyone else, they still are saying that nonessential travel is discouraged. you also do need to get tested both before and after you travel, within 72 hours before you travel and about five days afterwards. self-quarantine for seven to ten days or longer, if you feel that
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you were exposed. and continue to wear a mask, wash your hands and socially distance. so starting to open up a little bit, joshua. but a lot of precautions still in place. >> just a quick reminder. when you're vaccinated, your body still needs some time for the immunity to build up, so, you probably should about consider yourself fully vaccinated until that period is over, not the minute you get your final shot. scott, how are travelers dealing with these changes and with these new guidelines? >> reporter: yeah, and those guidelines -- the guidelines are two weeks after you're vaccinated, after you get the shot. so you're absolutely right, you need to let that take effect. travelers are definitely enjoying, it seems, getting back to seeing relatives and being able to travel for the holidays and as far as the mask mandate, which is in place on all public transportation and in the airports, they say they are fine with that. >> it's a good safety measure, but i think that as the -- as
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more and more people are vaccinated, it's going to become less and less important. and the concern i'd have is, when do you cut it off? when do you decide that it's no longer necessary to have those, those safety measures in place? >> i travel a lot, so, just keep the mask on. try to stay away from people. it's a good idea. >> i'm vaccinated and i think it's going to be okay. i'm going to see my children. >> reporter: they are slowly bouncing back here at sfo, where they still were going into this month about 80% down from pre-pandemic levels, but we've been watching all day and people are definitely coming back. if you do come back, be careful. joshua? >> i look forward to coming back myself. that msnbc's scott cohn at san francisco international. what can we do about reducing gun violence? i want your help writing a bill for congress that most people could support. we'll kick off this enterprise with some advice from the enterprise. next.
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already, too many retreats. they invade our space and we fall back. they assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. not again. the line must be drawn here. this far and no farther. i will make them pay for what they've done. >> that is not the jean-luc picard we know and love. the 24th century's finest diplomat, explorer and captain. it's kind of a low moment at a time of high stakes but considering 21st century politics we have no right to judge. and honestly haven't we all felt like that some time? maybe now? tired of fighting unreasonable, uncaring opponents bent on conquering and assimilating? 6 when lives are at stake, it's
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hard to think about consensus. you just want to win the battle. right now, one of our biggest battles is over gun violence. atlanta, boulder and now orange, california, are now dealing with the recent aftermath of mass shootings. i don't know about you, i am there must be some way to write a bill that most americans would support. forget about congress for minutes. what do we the people want? let's find out. next week we are going to draft a bill. you and me. i want your strongest idea for what americans would support right now. this could be tough. it means being flexible and open to negotiation. not demanding all or nothing. democracy works best when we work together on common ground. it is the difference between getting results and getting
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revenge. that clip was from the murphy star trek first contact. the enterprise heads back in time to protect the pivotal moment, the first humans face light at warp speed. an evil alien race tries to disrupt that moment and prevent the federation from existing. captain per card survived the boards captivity and that trauma blinds them with the need for vengeance. this tuesday, april 5 the folks behind star trek will celebrate first contact day. that is the dates that the pioneering flight happens. april 5 2063. people like me love this series because it imagines an amazing future where we can each give our all to something meaningful no matter who or what we are. it puts more value on curiosity than certainty. when you are doing big things like exploring the unknown, certainty is a liability. picard finally realizes this
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when a woman from our time compares them to captain ahab from moby . the novel makes it clear. to ahab that white whale is more than violent. it is evil incarnate. all evil to crazy ahab was visibly personified and made practically as salable in moby . he piled upon the whales hump the sum of all the general rage and hate filled by his whole race from adam down and then as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his hot heart shall upon it. i suppose it is possible that some of those people who have stood in the way of fighting gun violence are evil people whoever those people are to you. it is possible. we can no more change an evil person into a good one thing captain picard could change a board into the beta zooid. the real problem is whether we let someone else's evils become ours. when we trade good judgment on
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issues for passing judgment on others ahab's quest killed him and moby got away. we can even do right or feel righteous. but each gets in the others way . if we could do both we probably would have passed gun laws by now. but here we are. star trek has expanded our belief in what the future can bring. data on desks, medical computers at hospital beds, handheld communicators were all science-fiction until we made them fact. even a multiracial crew of people doing great things with science fiction. now it is fax. i believe in a future eons of foolishness. we can get there. all we have to do is as captain picard would say engage. start by engaging with me and sharing your strongest idea. make your case for a gun safety law you believe most people
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could support. email us. we might need a thread of tweets to fit your arguments into. however you reach out, keep it brief and don't forget to tell us your name and where you live. we will keep this conversation going online all this week and come back one week from tonight as we build a gun safety bill together. up next, healing the psychological effects of covid- 19. there is an app for that. why more americans are managing their mental health with apps and why it is so risky just ahead. ? at new chapter, its' innovation, organic ingredients, and fermentation. fermentation? yes. formulated to help you body really truly absorb the natural goodness. new chapter. wellness, well done.
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some good news from a tragic story yesterday at the capital. we told you near the top of the hour about the officer who was injured in yesterday's attack. he has been released from the hospital and now we have footage of that moment. it is video of u.s. capitol police officer kenny shaver. he was released from the hospital today. officer shaver was injured after an attack where his car was rammed at a checkpoint on the north end of the capital complex. his fellow officer, william evans died in that attack. as you can see officer shaver
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was greeted by a crowd of medical staff and other officers cheering as he was escorted to his car. covid-19 has taken a lot from us this year. friends, loved ones, freedoms, a sense of stability. according to the american psychological association two out of three adults say they have experienced increased stress during the pandemic. now more people are using apps to help manage their stressors. liz mcloughlin reports some of them are facing anxiety at the expense of privacy. >> it has been challenging for all of us. >> a new wave of users have seek out mental health apps. we make it as a way to break down that barrier and a whole host of people who never accessed care before are accessing it. >> talk space is an app that connects users with licensed therapist with unlimited messaging for a monthly subscription. >> you enter your own hipaa
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compliant secure therapy room or you can communicate with your therapist and write something at any point day or night. >> interactions with therapist on talk space and similar apps are protected by hipaa. a federal data privacy law. >> we do not sell that data. >> not all mental health apps are created equal. with thousands on the market offering breathing exercises to chat bots, many are unregulated. >> a lot of apps operate in a gray area where the app isn't covered by the law unless it is connecting you directly to the doctor. >> to consumer reports investigation.several popular mental health apps and said the privacy offered varies widely. in some cases data was shared with third parties including facebook. >> the fact that you are seeking care for mental health could be a piece of data that is used for targeted ads or other purposes you might not be comfortable with or aren't

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