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hello, everyone. i'm alicia menendez. as we begin a new hour, we turn to infrastructure, and it is not just roads and bridges. why team biden should be eyeing a total overhaul of the care economy. plus, congressman grace ming joins me after new and shocking attacks on the aapi community. also, breaking news. a new report suggests that the trump campaign was tricking its donors out of thousands of dollars. and we'll hear from one of the people responsible for boosting voter turnout in texas last year. why it could all go away if
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republicans get their wish. this is "american voices." hello, everyone. i'm alicia menendez. it sure wasn't your former president's infrastructure week. this time it was for real. the biden administration unveiling a $2 trillion spending plan over eight years. it would rebuild roads and bridges and public transportation, including amtrak, something that urban and rural communities, red and blue states, the coasts, and the middle of the country will benefit from. every four year, the american society of civil engineers publishes a report card on how america's infrastructure is doing. spoiler alert, she's weak. last year's report gave us a c-minus, a step up for a country that spent two decades bringing home a "d" on its report card. any engineer will tell you when infrastructure works, most people don't think about it, unless this happens.
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>> oh, no. your tire's all flat and junk. oh, did i do that? >> if only tackling something like infrastructure was so friendly. it is not. it is wonky, feeling almost like an improvised dialogue on an episode of "veep." it didn't help that the trump administration turned it into an actual joke, spending week after week since 2017 announcing it's infrastructure week. it never was. if you are like me, when you hear infrastructure, you think of crumbling tunnels and rocky roads. take this bridge in cincinnati, for example, long considered the nation's worst, built in the '60s, barely looked at since, full of rust. so bad president obama went there in 2011 in hopes of doing something about it. hundreds of rural bridges are breaking down, too. 71% of all bridges in america are rural. 79% of all rural bridges are rated poor or structurally unsound. america's tunnels, the ones
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under the hudson river, deteriorating fast because of saltwater from hurricane sandy. and i could spend all night here naming every bridge, tunnel, road that needs repair. but amid all of these pieces of physical infrastructure, there's also the need to revamp our human infrastructure. from high speed internet to connect rural businesses to global commerce, to providing paid leave and child care. biden's plan calls for all of it, expanding medicaid coverage of care-giving services for the elderly and people with disabilities, puts more money into schools and child care services, includes support for job training, violence prevention programs, military veterans hospitals, pandemic preparedness, and new research for technologies to combat global warming, all of it title to our economy and, thus, our infrastructure. starting us off tonight, the executive director and cofounder of the national domestic workers alliance, the president and ceo of the national women's law center, and the executive
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director, ceo, and cofounder of moms rising. what a group. thank you all for being here. set the stakes for me. what economic impact would this bill have as it exists right now on care givers and for those of us who benefit from a care-giving economy? >> it's historic and profound. just the acknowledgment that the services required, the care required to take care of a growing aging population in this country and people with disabilities as essential infrastructure and that the workforce that provides that care and services is essential to our economic recovery is profound. millions of lives will be affected. every single day 10,000 people turn 65 in this country, and people live longer than ever, and that is why home care is among the fastest-growing occupations in our entire workforce. and it's also some of the most
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undervalued and invisible work. it was one of the home care workforce is one of two groups of workers who are excluded from new deal labor protections that really set the foundation for our labor laws in this country because of racism and sexism. the fact that this plan prioritizes economic security and good jobs for these workers is profound and transformative, not just for these workers and their families, but for all of the millions of working family caregivers who rely on these services in order to get to work. care jobs are job-enabling jobs. that's why this is infrastructure and it's essential and potentially transformative. >> i want you to pick up on what ai-jen was just talking about, p because i think it is really critical to understand the
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racial and gender inequality that undergirds all of this. how does this bill specifically tackle those pieces? fatima, i've lost your audio, so, chris, i'm going to go to you with a different question. working women have lost decades of labor force gains during this pandemic, you know that as well as most. how would permanent federal legislation on child care, on parental leave help reverse that decline? >> just like we need to build bridges, as you said, to build our infrastructure, we need to build bridges for people to get to work through building our care infrastructure and that includes making access to affordable child care for everyone, access to affordable paid family medical leave and access to affordable home and community-based care services for those who are disabled
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people and who are aging. what does that mean with the labor force? 32% of women between the ages of 25 and 34 were pushed out of the labor force during the pandemic simply because of a lack of access to child care. 0 so, in order to get people back to work and to build a care economy, we absolutely have to build a care infrastructure. what ai-jen just said is important. building a care infrastructure is both job sustaining -- it allows parents to go to work, it allows children to thrive and it allows child care workers to earn living wages -- and it's also job creating. we need to build living wages for a whole care workforce and care infrastructure because right now that whole infrastructure is underpaid. the data is in and the pandemic has had an outsized impact on women and moms, with women of color experiencing compounded problems. and one way to reach towards a
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better future, to build back better is to build that care infrastructure that works for us all. >> fatima, i lost you, i think i have you back, so, please jump in. >> i'll just pick up where kristin left off, and that is, you know, march saw a big job gain in this country, but only about 1 in 3 of those jobs went to women. and so the thing that i think we've learned in this pandemic is that the care crisis in this country is intertwined with the economic crisis, and building back is going to really require us to intertwine the two. so the fact that this plan treats care as foundational to the economic recovery is an important lesson for today, but it is an important lesson going forward for how we ensure that our economic recovery is equitable, especially reaches
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the women of color who've been so hard hit. >> i think one of the ways to best sum up this moment and what is at stake and the opportunity that you believe exists here is to talk about the fact that all three of your organizations are involved in launching a $20 million ad campaign aimed at shoring up support for the care giving aspects of this infrastructure bill. why is it so critical the educate americans about the importance of these measures given that i would imagine most people are experiencing this in their day-to-day lives? is it that we are not seeing these as policy issues? >> i think we're used to in this country thinking about care as a personal responsibility and burden. if we can't manage it, that it is a personal failure. and i think what covid revealed for all of us to see is that we need infrastructure to support care in the 21st century in this country. 70% of children are growing up
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in households where all the adults in that household work outside of the home and we need child care. we need long-term care. we need these services in order to support us to be able to work in this day and age. and i think that covid really revealed that we are in this together, that care is a public good that requires public investment, public policy, and real leadership on the part of our elected officials to build the infrastructure that we need. and as long as we're talking about infrastructure, i mean, i think about even with people who are going to be rebuilding our roads, bridges, and tunnels and laying that broadband are going to need care. it's pretty fundamental. >> kristin, i think ai-jen is exactly right there that in this moment, in a year of this pandemic, it is not clear to us why this is needed, then i'm not sure when it will ever be made
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more clear. and yet, here's what senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said about gop support for this infrastructure bill. take a listen. >> i think that package that they're putting together now, as much as we would like to address infrastructure, is not going to get support from our side because i think the last thing the economy needs right now is a big whopping tax increase on the productive sectors of our economy. >> kristin, how do you push back against that messaging? >> the senator is out of touch and out of date. data shows we'll have $65 billion in increased economic activity if we stop the departure of moms out of the labor force because we don't have a care infrastructure. also, another thing that's really important is polls across the country are showing democrats, republicans, independents, people are all parties experiencing a need for
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a care infrastructure, and it is clear that a care infrastructure lifts our families, lifts our economy and lifts our country. that's why federal reserve chairperson jerome powell recently said without us even asking that the united states of america must build a care infrastructure immediately because it is making us less competitive with other world economies. and this is really important. 177 countries have some access to paid family leave. we are so behind when it comes to paid leave, child care, when it comes to long-term care and home and community-based care services. we know this. that's why we have moms, dads, people with moms and dads rising across the nation making unprecedented numbers of constituent contacts with our u.s. congress and telling members of congress, democrats and republicans alike, that we are in crisis, and this crisis isn't just something that we're complaining about, it's clear when this many people are having the same type of crisis at the same time, we have national
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structural issues that we can and must solve together, not an epidemic of personal failures. and we do see, and i think this is really important, in states across the country, we do see care infrastructure policies marching forward, being passed by democrats and republicans alike. we see these poliies moving forward in legislatures that are, in fact, controlled by republicans. so, now is the absolute time for the u.s. congress and specifically for the republicans in the u.s. congress, to catch up. we had tremendous leadership from the house democrats, the senate democrats, and, of course, from biden and harris in pushing forward policies that are proactively lifting businesses, families, and our economy and it's time for members of congress to catch up. >> thank you all so much for your time tonight. next, the hate has not stopped. more attacks on asian-americans. what do we do about it? congressman grace meng is here to talk solutions. plus boycotts and the fight for the rate to vote.
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it is not just happening in georgia. and later, trump's legal troubles growing by the day, including a new report about how the trump campaign may have duped some donors. first, richard lui is standing by with a look at the other big stories we are watching this hour at msnbc. richard? >> hey, alicia. good saturday. authorities in jordan arrested 20 people today in an alleged plot against jordan's king abdullah ii. officials are investigating what they say is a complex plot that included another jordanian ruler. u.s. officials were briefed on the arrests as jordan is a key u.s. ally in the middle east. an update now on yesterday's capitol attack. we now know that officer william evans was killed after he was hit by that blue car which we saw yesterday afternoon. it crashed into the barricade. the driver was killed by police after jumping out of the car with a knife. investigators are now focused on his social media to find auto a motive for that attack. rapper dmx is in grave condition at a new york hospital after suffering a heart attack late last night.
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the asian-american community is still reeling from a series of brutal racist attacks. the most recent happened this week in new york. a 65-year-old woman was assaulted while walking to church near times square. her attacker now in custody. and while video of the brutal assault is shocking enough, the inaction of three security guards who witnessed the attack from a nearby building is drawing fury and outrage. i'm joined by congressman grace meng, representative from new york. congresswoman, it is good to see you. i do want to first get your reaction to what happened here in new york this week. obviously anyone who's watched that video was shocked, was outraged, was saddened, but as we try to understand where this conversation is going, i wonder to you if it added new contours. >> sure.
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well, first, the attack on the woman in that video which has really gone viral just showed the lack of humanity in how she was attacked over and over again. i will say that in watching some of our longer video that we have gotten updates that it was building security protocol to secure the building because the attacker apparently still had a knife right outside. but we're still continuously waiting for more news. but this really just goes to the larger issue of asian-americans just being seen as invisible, as part of our history, and we've now really come to an awakening in this country where we're fed up and no longer okay with being invisible from our history books to the budget books of government to philanthropy. we are finally speaking out louder now.
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>> congressman, you went to atlanta with the congressional delegation to pay your respects to the families of the victims of the shooting that took place there a little over two weeks ago now. what did you hear from them? what did they tell you? >> well, we met with some of the families of the victims and we, you know, while we can never comprehend what they are going through, we thank them because they told us about their moms' stories. they told us about how hard they worked. one of their biggest points of sadness was that their moms will never be able to enjoy the fruits of their labor after years and decades of working, you know, almost virtually every single day, barely taking a day off. and we are thankful for their families telling those stories because it actually tells the stories of so many
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asian-american women across this country and in our history, stories which have been ignored for way too long. >> when we talk about a community being under attack, there's some of the violent acts we're seeing, but there's also being a victim of the voter suppression laws sweeping the country. for example, the aapi community, big part of the historic turnout we saw in georgia last year as voter suppression laws move through that state, move through other states, what does it mean for the aapi community? >> i myself have been to georgia multiple times in the last few years. i have watched and witnessed the beauty of various underrepresented communities working together. the black community has literally taken the asian-american community, the growing community by the hands and helped them and invested in our communities. in that vein, we saw a tremendous turnout of asian-americans for the very
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first time in georgia last year. that's what the republicans are afraid of. they know that if you allow people to vote in a democratic process, that people will not side with them. and we are seeing these ridiculous laws being signed that really are very undemocratic. >> your colleague, new jersey congressman kim, he talked about his son coming home and expressing to him what might have been his first experience of discrimination of someone calling him a chinese kid. as a mom, as a new jerseyan, it broke my heart. i'm a nng nng new jersey kid. what are the conversations you're having with your own kids about what's happening right now? >> alicia, andy's son gave the perfect response. i love it. i'm glad andy was there to be able to explain and to walk him through this first experience of, you know, racism. i think a lot of us are struggling.
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i had so many parents reach out. we literally had, you know, facebook live virtual event the other day focused on how to talk to your kids about these types of incidents. we just think it's important to let it be organic. bring them to rallies from black lives matter protests to, you know, democratic events like that where you're able to talk about these various issues and just, you know, let it come organically and just allow for that opportunity to happen. >> congresswoman grace meng, thank you for your time tonight. next, the georgia governor cries cancel culture, as major league baseball weighs in on his state's new voting restrictions. and it is not just georgia. a corporate pressure campaign is taking shape in the lone star state. i'll speak to two texans fighting to protect the right to vote. and later, a new report the trump campaign was duping donors out of thousands of dollars.
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minus the traditional markups. ♪♪ tonight, voting rights advocates across america are urging businesses to stand up for democracy, denounce a republican power grab as the gop is trying to make it harder to vote. republicans have now introduced restrictive voting bills in 47 states. in texas, former harris county clerk chris hollins writes, in an op-ed, quote, it's already harder to vote in texas than any other state. in these bills becomes law, texas would be codifying the most regressive election policies since the racist jim crow era. chris joins us now, along with charlie bonner, communications director of move texas. all right, charlie, i want to start with you. you testified against these voter suppression efforts this week in the legislature. what is your message to lawmakers? >> well, thank you so much for
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having me, and it's been a very long week. that testimony happened at about 1:00 a.m., after about 20 hous. i had colleagues testify 4:30 in the morning, spending a whole day at the texas state capitol, something i wouldn't wish on anyone. but, you know, there's so much happening right now with these racist jim crow era laws being passed across the country. but in texas we still have a chance to stop them. what we're seeing from these corporations speaking out is they're seeing what's happening in georgia and they're not waiting until it's too late. but there's still more that they can do. there's still more that all of us can do. we have to be speaking out talking to our friends and neighbors about what's going on because our democracy is on the brink. everything is on the line right now and texas is really ground zero for this fight. >> chris, when i talked to a lot of people who were watching what happened in georgia, they were happy to see those statements from coca-cola, they were happy to see the statements from delta, there was
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also concern that they had come a little too late. the fact they had been released the same day, the last day the legislature was in session, did not give them room to actually make moves. as you are watching from texas, what is playing out in georgia, what is the lesson that you are taking away from the pressure campaign that they have put on companies, on corporations and how then you can apply to what's happening in texas? >> the lesson we learned is we have to act now. we can't wait for these is up press suppressive, racist bills to pass and then go back and retaliate. certainly members of the business community need to step up and make clear they won't accept it. same goes for leaders of our faith communities as well as nonprofits. we all need to be taking a stand to say this is not acceptable. this cannot happen in the state of texas. >> charlie, your lieutenant governor, dan patrick, chastised
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american airlines this week for daring to speak out against these restrictive voting laws. i wonder what you make of this strategy. >> well, i don't appreciate the framing of my lieutenant governor, first and foremost, but you know, this is out of the same playbook we've been seeing since he's been pushing the bathroom bill for several sessions and many of the attacks we've seen on the trans community that continue this session. our corporate allies have been very vocal in the lgbtqia fight. those same attacks continue. it's out of his old playbook. he's a conservative radio guy, only thing he knows how to do is attack. >> chris, i want to ask you, we've seen the public pressure against corporations start to make a difference, of course, with the mlb moving the all-star game out of the state. and i think there are a lot of people who sort of took notice
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when it was these big companies and then it hit a broader swath of people when all of a sudden what we were talking about was sports and sports organizations. do you see that also playing out in texas? >> yeah. we were so proud to see over 70 black ceos take a stand against these racist bills. just yesterday nearly 200 ceos joined that fight specifically arguing against the bills that are being passed here in texas. and so we're asking more and more leaders to join that movement. we want you to go to fair elections texas.org and add your name to that nonpartisan coalition that is seeking freedom. because we know freedom is not only the right thing, but it's good for business. >> chris, what i heard from so many organizers, activists, when you talk about that group of business leaders, when you talk about some of the companies that we've now seen getting on the record on this is these aren't
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ordinarily the people you see out in front on these issues. i want to hear from both of you really quickly, chris, i'll start with you. which voices are still missing? who is it that has not yet come into the arena, raised their voice on this that you want to hear from? >> well, there are major players that have a presence across texas. southwest airlines made a statement, but frankly, it wasn't good enough. we need to know where you stand on these issues. are you for freedom? are you for racial equity and justice and the fundamental right to vote in this country or not? we need southwest, we need at&t, we need our oil and gas and energy players that create so many jobs, employ so many people here in texas to show they care about their workers and customers. so we're waiting. >> charlie? >> you know, i think texas is really the center of culture for the south. we have a lot of cultural
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leaders who have spent a lot of money on texans recovering from the winter storm. this is the fundamental issue, so matthew mcconaughey, where you at? beyoncé, we'd love to hear it. we'd love to hear it. so i think it's really important that our cultural leaders are speaking out right now too. >> all right, chris and charlie, thank you both so much. next, citizen trump's legal troubles continue to mount. the new allegations tonight from "the new york times" about campaign donations that scores of his supporters weren't aware they were making. former watergate prosecutor and legal expert jill wine-banks joins me next.
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an investigation from "the new york times" reveals trump's cash-grabbing tactics with donors which the former president's spokesman is not denying. "the times" reports trump's campaign made recurring donations the default, then doubled them in an operation nicknamed the money bomb. all this unbeknownst to many unsuspecting donors. one retiree said they made 70 withdrawals from his bank account. that's 7-0. joining me now to discuss the fallout from trump's fund-raising company, jill wine-banks, cohost of the podcast "#sistersinlaw."
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according to "the times," trump's already refunded millions of dollars obtained these through tactics. these practices, while they may be shady, are these tactics illegal? >> they may be legal. you have to be really careful. you don't expect a former president of the united states to be using these kind of tactics. this is the kind of thing you expect from, oh, scam artists who sell really low-quality products. in this case, what was happening was people would sign up thinking they were donating one time and there would be a little button they didn't see that said make this monthly, make this weekly. and sometimes it changed from monthly to weekly after they had hit it or had entered the one-time donation amount. i think that that kind of fraud should have political consequences, even if it doesn't have legal. but i think there are legal consequences.
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he is facing so many civil and criminal charges right now that he's going crazy trying to defend himself. he needs full-time law firm, not a full-time lawyer, but he needs a full-time firm to handle all of the cases from the varying -- from georgia, from the manhattan d.a., from the new york attorney general, from the district of columbia, from the policemen who have sued. the new york courts ruled the defamation case can proceed, which means, by the way, that there will be under oath depositions, the president is going to have to testify, the former president. he has absolutely no way to evade any longer. so we'll all be learning a lot more once all these things get under way, and that's what's important. and the fact that he's had to refund this money should say
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something as a warning to anyone who is thinking about donating to any of his pleas for funding for whatever the purpose. >> well, in that long list, you referenced a case our viewers might be a little less familiar with, that two capitol police officers are suing the former president for inciting the capitol riot, making it the third lawsuit to hold him responsible. why haven't we seen a criminal case against trump related to january 6th? >> i think it takes time to build a case. i believe that the district of columbia federal authorities are looking at his role in this. it seems totally appropriate if you're going to have the case against people who broke in that you have the person who said go and break in, go and stop democracy in action, please don't let this happen, help me protect myself.
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the person in charge has to be held accountable and it wouldn't be just him, it would be many of the other speakers at the rally. and maybe representative holly who came out and, as you know, raised his fist and, you know, in support of the protesters who were, in my view, not protesters, but were absolutely insurrectionists. and we now know that they were not all people who belonged to the extreme right wing. they were your neighbors. there is an article in "the atlantic" by two chicago professors that is terrifying to me, it shows they were not unemployed, they were not uneducated. they were ordinary, normal people who got caught up in following donald trump's instructions and doing this horrible domestic terrorist act. and so you can't hold them responsible without holding the
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big kahuna in charge. it's sort of like an organized crime case. the crime boss doesn't go in to do the crimes. he just tells people. he dispatches them, and that's enough to make him guilty. >> jill wine-banks, thanks for joining us twice this evening. up next, what happened. what democrats can learn about the latino vote in 2020 and how they can use that information in 2022. get to tell everybody how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? i mean it... uh-oh, sorry... oh... what? i'm an emu! no, buddy! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. ♪ ♪ (car audio) you have reached your destination.
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president biden has a lot of big plans for how he wants to transform the country, everything from infrastructure to immigration. however, those plans rely heavily on democrats keeping the house and the senate. in order to keep that majority, democrats are putting focus on latino voters to see why they lost ground with the key constituency in 2020. according to a new analysis, densely latino precincts in massachusetts, new jersey, wisconsin, texas and nevada all
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shifted to trump by between 6% and 20% points from 2016. disclosure, my husband is a cofounder of the agency. one of my next guests put it this way in his latest "new york times" op-ed. a cluster of spanish-language tv ads late in the game will not turn out voters. chuck rocha was a former senior adviser for the bernie sanders presidential campaign and the author of "tio bernie." also with us, msnbc contributor victoria defrancesco. she is the assistant dean for civic engagement at the lbj school of public affairs at the university of texas at austin. friends, it is good to see you both. chuck, listen. i think sort of 24 hours after an election, everybody wants to do a post-mortem and you have to tell everybody, like, slow it down, we need a lot more
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information than we have at the moment. when you have done your own analysis, what has become clear you to a few months out? >> there's one thing is that i was wrong and i'll say that on national tv. i've come on this show and lots of show and said if you spend a bunch of money speaking to latinos, they'll vote for you. let me add a caveat to that. you need to spend it early enough to make a difference. my research coupled with what equis did, i looked at the spending and interviews on the ground and we found in miami-dade county alone in the last 30 days, democrats spent $14 million compared to republicans who only spent $6 million in the last 30 days. but those republicans still outperformed with latinos in miami-dade by 20 points. weerstarterier. we must be intentional about the work we're doing and make sure we're using specific messages tools and guidelines that show we are not a monolith. >> chuck, i think i might have -- oh, there you go. i thought i lost you, you came
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back which was very exciting because, chuck, i'm not accustomed to you starting off by telling me you were wrong, so, you really caught me offguard there. victoria, i want you to pick up where chuck left off. >> all right, i'm going to geek out on you guys because i think the beauty of the republican party, in what it did in this last election, was they implemented a picture perfect integrated marketing communications campaign. what that means is, they went in big with the ads, with the tv ads, the radio ads, the stuff that chuck was talking about, the democrats did too little too late. but the other thing, and for me, is really crucial, is the direct mobilization, is the door knocking, is the folks going and saying, hey, can i come in and talk to you about why trump is better than biden? that did not happen with democrats, for health reasons. democrats decided to pull out and not do any direct contact. we know from research, my own research, research of many folks that direct contact is what
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seals the deal. one example, texas 23rd, the swingest of swing districts in the country, we know that tony gonzalez knocked on about 30,000 doors. gina ortiz-jones knocked on zero. you put all of that together and you look at the numbers of trump doing better with latinos, it's not all that surprising and of course hindsight is always 2020. >> chuck, there are -- there are all of the tactical elements of this and then there is also sort of the stepping back and understanding what the values are that are driving these vote decisions with the cultural nuances that is driving these voting decisions. your group found that some of the top issues driving latino voters to the polls were health care, were covid relief, were the economy. i wonder how you think those issues begin to shift moving into 2022. >> as you said, alicia, the number one issue in our poll was
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covid relief. good news for the democrats, two parts, they have a president now who is speaking to latinos and speaking about the issues they care about. these covid relief checks go a long way in building a lot of bridges and helps us making up that deficit that you just talked about. but the big key to 2022 is, there's four, five senate races on your lead-in you talked about that go through latino-dense areas and those latino congressional districts. 53,000 new voters showed up that were lea tino that didn't vote four years ago. will they come back? i think if we show up early and talk to them about their value sets, doing stuff to he help them, i think we do have a chance. >> victoria, all of this also presupposed that everyone that wants to vote can go vote. you have the texas senate advancing a new set of restrictive election laws that would limit extended early voting hours, prohibit drive-through voting, make it illegal for local election officials to proactively send
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applications to vote by mail to voters even if they qualify, that is according to "the texas tribune." even if democrats get the messaging right, how much are these laws going to impact the turnout that you see from this community? >> and this is really troublesome, alicia, because we have the honor in texas of having the hardest rules in terms of being able to register and to vote. so, i think this just adds another barrier in terms of that. i do want to -- i want to side bar here and point out that even though we have one of the most difficult systems to register and to turn out, we did see a boost in turnout among all texans and especially latinos. so, i think when the stakes are high, latinos and texans are going to turn out, but i mean, we should be making voting easier, not harder. and i think this is going to be key when we get to 2022 election, interms of seeing if
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these latinos were your low frequency voters, may just decide to not turn out and ironically, that may hurt republicans instead of help them. those latino voters that republicans were able to call in 2020, they may just stay home or maybe eventually switch to the democrats, if democrats can persuade them and help them register and turn out more, so, i think there may be a surprise for republicans in that sense. >> all right, victoria, chuck, you know i love talking about this and you know i love talking about it with the two of you. thank you for spending some time with us. at the top of the hour, don't miss "the week" with joshua johnson. tonight at 9:00 eastern, joshua has a special report breaking down the first week of testimony in the derek chauvin trial. the attorney for george floyd's family is going to join the discussion. that's coming up at 9:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. eastern h. hey, hey, no, no limu, no limu!
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some very good and much anticipated news here at msnbc. this week alexandra roberts, our director of communications, and her husband mike welcomed their first child. as mom and dad write, perhaps inspired be i the freed container ship in the suez canal, a 6 pound, 3 sound baby girl arrived at 4:58 a.m. eastern time on tuesday, march 30th. micki darling roberts made her debut ten days early, though in a day when we are searched for hope and for happiness, not a moment too soon. the family of three are healthy
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and happy and we hear at msnbc are thrilled to be among the first of micki's press clips. that's all the time i have for today. i'm alicia menendez. i'll see you back here tomorrow, 6:00 p.m. esche. but for now, i hand it over to my colleague joshua johnson. hello, joshua. >> that is very good news about alexandra. always welcome a cute baby story to end a very difficult week. good to see you. and it is good to see you tonight as well. speaking of a busy week capitol is drawing battle lines over president biden's infrastructure plan. and not just between democrats and republicans. what is the strategy for pushing the bill through a gridlocked senate? we'll talk to the chair of the house transportation and infrastructure committee, congressman peter defazio is here. today, georgia's governor hit back at major league baseball for moving the all-star game out of atlanta. >> major league baseball put the wishes of stacey abrams and joe biden ahead of the economic

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