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is unfolding right now. thank you, cynthia, for your wisdom on this. a former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. that's tonight's "last word." you can catch me tomorrow morning on velshi, the "11th ♪♪ good evening, i'm in for brian williams, day 73 of the biden administration, nearly three months on to the day after the deadly insurrection at the u.s. capitol. a new attack taking the life of a capitol police officer, and injuring another. it happened just after 1:00 this afternoon near the senate side of the building. the attacker struck the officers with his car and ran in to a security barrier. >> the suspect exited a vehicle with a knife in hand. he did not respond to verbal commands.
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the suspect did start lunging toward u.s. capitol police officers and at which time u.s. capitol police officers fired about the suspect. the suspect has been pronounced deceased. >> the response from law enforcement agencies and the national guard was immediate. and the capitol was locked down, the two officers rushed to the hospital. william evans, an 18-year veteran of the capitol police force and a member of the first responders unit, died of his injuries. the department of course has been reeling since the january 6th riot and the death of officer brian sicknick. the acting chief noted the stress that her officers have been under. >> please keep the united states capitol police family in your thoughts and prayers at this time. it has been an extremely difficult and challenging year for us but we will get through
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this and we do appreciate the community support. >> late today, a capitol police motorcade escorted evan's body. president biden ordered the flags flown at half-staff in all federal buildings until april 6th, in honor of evans and the other injured officer who is in stable condition and his injuries said to not be life threatening. >> authorities say the attack appears to be have no link to terrorism, identifying the suspect as 25-year-old noah green. his social media posts reference the nation of islam and its leader lewis farrakhan, he posted end times how the last few years have been tough and the past few months tougher. the house and senate in recess so the complex was far less busy than usual. but today's attack comes amid a debate among members about the heightened security measures put in place just after the insurrection. lieutenant general russell
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honora says congress needs to make changes quickly to prevent future attacks. >> the transition we have to make in our minds that the capitol is a target, many members challenge the recommendations, some of the recommendations we made in terms of barriers and hardening of the capitol, while keeping the capitol open to the public. and the challenge was, they would tell me, hey, we have gone to the skiff, we are not seeing any threats to the capitol. we need to adjust to that. we need to take those recommendations we made and get them funded up to about $2 billion and get it done. because our capitol must be protected. >> also today, there's new travel guidance from the centers for disease control for people who have been fully vaccinated. >> for domestic travel, fully vaccinated people do not need to get a covid-19 test before or after travel, and do not need to self quarantine after travel.
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for example, fully vaccinated grandparents can fly to visit their healthy grandkids without getting a covid-19 test or on self quarantining. fully vaccinated people do not need to get a covid-19 test before they leave the united states. fully vaccinated people should get tested and have a negative test result before they board an international flight back in to the united states. but they do not need to quarantine when they arrive here. >> couple of things to note here though. the cdc advises travelers they have to continue to wear masks while traveling, even if you are fully vaccinated. the agency also is not recommending travel at this time due to the rising number of covid cases. still, the vaccinations are picking up, and there's signs that the economy might be starting to recover from the pandemic. hiring picked up last month as employers added more than expected, 916,000 jobs. president biden welcoming the
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news and making a pitch for his new $2.2 trillion infrastructure and jobs plan. the fight is far from over. that's why i pro posed the american jobs plan. i have spoken to republicans on the phone. i'm looking forward to meeting with them. they all have their ideas about what it will take, what they like and don't like. in action is not an option. there's still 8.4 million fewer jobs today than there were last march. >> amid all of this, there's mounting questions about the future of matt gaetz, the republican congressman who is the subject of an investigation if he is involved with sex trafficking. his office said that he never
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paid for sex and he denies a relationship with a 17-year-old, calling the allegations against him totally false. today he told the hill newspaper, he has no plans to resign. earlier the white house was asked to weigh in on gaetz. >> is the president aware of the reporting and the investigation in to congressman a matt gaetz and does he believe that the congressman should resign? >> i don't think we have any further comment. i refer you to the legal authorities. those are decisions that we will let leaders in congress make. >> with that, let's bring in on our lead-off guest on this friday night. suzuki acknowledge paige, leading journalist and author, her up coming book, madam speaker, is out later this month and also with us, white house correspondent for pbs news hour and frank, the former fbi assistant director for counter intelligence. great for all of you to be with us on this holiday weekend. frank, let's start with what happened today. and the washington post is reporting that the officer who was killed was the father of
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young children. it is an unspeakable tragedy. even with the quick response to protect the capitol. that officer still lost his life. and we have heard a number of lawmakers calling for an end to some of the measures in place since january 6th. you heard the general say the new suggestions they have, there's been push back against them. what is your assessment tonight? >> first, let me offer my condolences to the family of the deceased officer, he was protecting our symbol of democracy and his extended family. i am concerned, chris, that there's been a kind of politicizing of this. and i fear we are politicizing of the retired general to fill the existing vacancies of which there could be as many as 200 on the capitol police force on and to create a quick reaction force for something like this today
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that consists of multi-agencies or national guard and or capitol police. i don't believe steps have been taken in that direction. i see fighting, partisan fighting in the house and senate over these recommendations, it's time to protect the capitol for the target it has become and the building itself is a target. >> and that security review, sus an paige, said and i'm quoting here, capitol police are under staffed and insufficiently equipped. it recommends 852 new positions and then, what are the chances this today sparks any change when the report itself when it came out was criticized at politically motivated by among others, kevin mccarthy. is anything likely to change? i think today's tragedy has the
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possibility of having impact on the debate. we saw some effort by some republicans to down play the threat on january 6th. it's from political action. it's from mentally ill people who are trying to make a point or get some attention. it's clear that the capitol has been becoming a target and that can draw these kinds of incidents. we heard mitch mcconnell a month ago say that the reaction with all this, with the barriers that have been put up have been over done. you did not hear him say that today.
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i think it could be part of the debate and it should be. >> you know, i think it's almost an understatement when frank just said that it's been a hell of a last couple of months for members of the capitol police force. i mean, they have been working 18 hour on days and 6 days a week. the emotional toll that today will add to what happened on january 6th, give us a sense of the mood there in washington, d.c. and what the white house is saying tonight? >> well, the mood in washington, d.c. is one of people feeling on edge, feeling traumatized, feeling scared of the future. there's really this growing sense that things are going to be completely different after january 6th and people in some ways will have to get comfortable with the idea that security at the capitol is going to have to be beefed up like it was beefed up around the white house. there was a time where you could walk up and touch the gates of the white house. now, that of course is not happening anymore. you now have fencing that has evolved over the last few years. and that, i think, is what the,
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is the same direction that we are going to see at the capitol. and another thing to note is that, there's this sense when you walk in to the capitol, i was there yesterday. there was this, i kind of had an impending sense of things could get worse again and things could happen in a way that, where people were not going to be safe. there was moment where we used to walk in the capitol and you felt you were in the safest place on earth. there's not that feeling anymore. picking up my badge yesterday and in the back of my mind i was thinking, is this badge going to be the thing that lets me get in to the next traumatizing event that happens in the capitol. over at the white house, president biden ordered the flags at the white house and federal properties to be flown at half-staff. the white house is really trying to navigate in post january 6th world where security is top of mind, where national security is top of mind and as susan said, today really under scores that it's not just domestic terrorists and people with
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political motivations and people with possible mental health issues and other threats that can face the capitol. there's a sense that it's politicized, but today could make things a little different because you have this capitol police force with the captain saying today they have been through so much, they have been traumatized and morale is low, and you have the possible who is worried about whether we can be kept safe here in washington, d.c. >> and that bottom line that people can go to the capitol and feel safe, frank, again, laid out in that report. but when you talk about some of the big items. whether it's more training, whether it's more equipment. whether it's hiring more than 850 new personnel, those are not things that happen quickly. what will you be looking at or what can be done in just the coming days, the coming weeks at
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least to try to say okay, we are doing everything we can right now to make sure that it's as safe as is humanly possible given the circumstances. >> yeah, two things, chris, i think can be done fairly quickly. first the perimeter, the outer perimeter needs to remain hardened, taking that outer perimeter down now makes no sense to me. particularly with the risk of copycats. secondly, you can assemble a quick reaction force. by tapping in from a tactical team from fbi and marshals and etcetera, get them together and ready to stage them permanently and rotating around the capitol region to quickly respond. today we saw the national guard move in quickly. but it would not have been quick enough had it been a more large organized terrorist attack. >> you mean before this horrific incident today, the white house with was actually having a good day.
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the president touting better than expected job numbers on the heels of a fast number of growing vaccinations. now he has unveiled another major piece of his agenda in the infrastructure bill. i want to read what peggy noonan wrote about it. if it is going, if it works it will change a lot of assumptions in american politics. the not, it will be a cautionary tale. tell us more about this, the president has been open about this, it's a long-term goal that is going to transform infrastructure in the united states. >> that's right. this is an ambitious plan. $2.25 trillion of an infrastructure plan. president biden said it's a generational change and it's not just about upgrading roads and bridges and clean water. there's money in there for the elderly and disabled, it's a rethinking of the way american society functions and this seems to be a plan the democrats will be able to get behind.
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there's talk already from progressives that it may not be enough money. when you think of $2.25 trillion. there's other mans floating around the house for $10 trillion just focused on climate change. but this bill is still a bill that seeps though democrats will be able to push through congress if they can get the reconciliation, which is a wonky word, which is a another way to say had they pass the bill with just the support of democrats and not a single republican vote. the republicans have signaled that it's a done deal and none of them will back the bill . they are saying it's bloated and it has too much money. it's a big bet from the biden administration saying we are going to put more money in the structure of the country and that will help people not just with infrastructure, but really with climate change.
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with the way we treat the most vulnerable in our populations and also, with equity. that is a big part of this plan. they are saying that they are targeting things in the plan to address racial injustice in the country as well. >> susan, joe biden has been very vocal about objecting to the new georgia voting law as well as similar efforts in other states and there's hundreds of proposals in states across the country. today we saw a big move. major league baseball pulling its all-star game out of atlanta. put in to context if you can, how the issue of voting rights has moved in to the center, not just of the political, but the cultural conversation and you have to wonder if other states are going to take note? >> you know, i think we have seen, related to this is the trial going on in minneapolis, with the death of george floyd, we have seen a kind of racial reckoning in this country that is still going on.
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that involves not only law enforcement and police procedure. it involves thing-s like efforts to restrict access to the ballot box. so you had georgia pass that law. they are baying a price now. you have got the all-star game moving. you have threatened boycotts against big companies. and you see action in texas, which is the next big battleground for state laws to restrict voting with a lot of companies, i think about 200 companies today issuing statements, expressing concern about that. that means it's not just a fight that involves politicians, this is now become a fight in which corporations are expected to take a stand. it shows a shift in our broader culture in to what kind of a nation we are. and especially as we address the issue of race in the country. it's going to be an interesting time. >> susan paige, thank you so
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much for starting us out on a friday night. we appreciate it. and coming up, as the first week of witness testimony comes to a close in the chauvin trial, one witness delivers what could be the most critical blow yet to the defense. and later, the difference between what you can do, and what the cdc said you should do once you are fully vaccinated. we have a doctor to break it down for us. the 11th hour just getting under way on a friday night. day night. want to make a name for yourself in gaming? then make a name for yourself. even if your office, and bank balance are... far from glamorous. that means expensing nothing but pizza. your expenses look good, and your books are set for the month! ...going up against this guy... and pitching your idea 100 times. no, no, no! no. i like it. -he likes it! ...and you definitely love that. intuit quickbooks helps small businesses be more successful with payments, payroll, banking and live bookkeeping. ♪♪ (car horn) ♪♪
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>> have you ever in all the years you have been working for the minneapolis police department been trained to kneel on the neck of someone who is handcuffed behind their back in a prone position. >> no, i haven't.
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>> is that, if that were done, would that be considered force? >> absolutely. >> what level of on force might that be? >> that would be the top tier. the deadly force. >> powerful testimony today from the longest serving officer in the minneapolis police department who responded to the scene after george floyd was taken away in an ambulance. lieutenant richard zimmerman was one of 14 veteran officers who published a letter last summer condemning derek chauvin, his testimony a direct challenge to the defense argument that chauvin did exactly what he been trained to do. >> what is your, you know, your view that use of force in that time period? >> totally unnecessary. i saw no reason why the officers felt they were in danger if that's what they felt. and that's what they would have to feel to use that kind of
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force. >> we welcome to the broadcast shawna lloyd, a wrongful death and civil rits rights attorney, managing partner at the cochran firm in florida. it's good to have you here. i have watched most of this trial, i don't think it's an exaggeration to say it's an emotionally harrowing week, certainly for the jurors, as they watched and heard what was in the courtroom. here we are the friday before easter weekend. what was the prosecution trying to accomplish with lieutenant zimmerman's testimony, and do you think they were successful? >> i think the prosecution was successful at accomplishing several things. they have laid this foundation of very emotional testimony. watching this video that creates a visceral reaction. so they have the emotional feel happening that they want. the impact. and now they are tying the emotions to fact as.
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here we have law enforcement testifying that what they saw, or what they witnessed or rewatched in the video was an unreasonable use of force. this is so profoundly different than what we have seen in other cases. first, we have law enforcement speaking out against other law enforcement officers saying that it was unreasonable. it was unnecessarily long. and that it should have not been used. that's a big departure than what we have seen in the past, and it's a big impact with those with such long years of experience, and that's a significant tie to the emotional aspect of the video. >> and the defense still seems intent on arguing that chauvin was acting in self defense. >> you would agree, however, that in a fight for your life, generally speaking, in a fight for your life, you as an officer are allowed to use whatever force is reasonable and necessary. correct? >> yes. >> and that can even involve
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improvisation, agreed? >> yes. >> based on your review of the body cams did you see any need for officer chauvin to improvise by putting his knee on mr. floyd for 9:29 seconds. >> do, i did not. >> there was a lot of arguing in that way. who wins in the eye of the jury? >> the prosecution will win the point. the defense is going back to this argument that this, there was a threat, the crowd could have gotten aggressive at any moment. george floyd could have you suddenly become more aggressive and the situation change. but i think the great equalizer in this is the video. we have seen it from every angle and we have seen it multiple times. we see that it was a crowd that had concern. they were responding to everything the officers said is, they backed up when they were
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asked to back up. there was no one being overly aggressive in this crowd. >> there's another part of this trial that i think has come through loud and clear. and actually, the washington post editorial board writes about it today in a column under the headline, it is painfully clear that george floyd was not the only victim in this killing. it goes to say a, quote, those who were forced to stand by helplessly and watch as 46-year-old floyd died, gasping for breath despite their desperate pleas to police have been forever changed. chauvin left many of them feeling guilty or ashamed, though ms. frazier had it right, it's not what i should have done, it's what he should have done. we saw darnella fraizer who testified tuesday. she is still haunted by floyd's death. christopher martin said he wishes he had never taken that $20 bill. i mean, what happens to these victims once the trial ends?
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where is the accountability to them and to all the people who are so traumatized by what they have been through? >> this is the unfortunate part of this type of an incident. it not only affects a family, it affects a community and in this case, we have by standers that came to one conscious thought, something is wrong, it has to stop. each of the individuals will be seriously impacted by the trauma and guilt they feel. they cried out and asked and wanted help. they wanted to just have people take a look at george, and just feel his pulse some said. they are going to carry it with them. especially when they are looking at someone who is sworn to protect and serve is the people that are standing had there. that will be something that is very heavy and that's going to affect each one of the persons as they move through their lives. >> shawna lloyd, thank you so much, the trial resumes on monday. and coming up, they are two of
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tonight congressman matt gaetz's future in congress is appearing more tenuous by the day, as allegations of questionable and illegal interactions with women continue to surface.
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the washington post reports tonight that he repeatedly boasted to people in florida politics about women he met through a county tax collector who has since been charged by federal authorities for trafficking of minors. and this was dropped last night, that a justice department investigation is focusing on his involvement with multiple women who were recruited on online for sex and received cash payments. while gaetz is denying ever paying women for sex or having sex with under aged women, there are signs some of his staff have lost faith in their boss. just today, his communications director announced a resignation and more are likely to follow. here to talk about it, bill crystal, an author, thinking, veteran of the reagan and bush administrations, editor at large, now chairman of the serve america movement. a group of current and former
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democrats, republicans and independents working to fix american politics. good to see you guys. so, bill, you called this, you tweeted last night, you expected gaetz staff to stop jumping ship and i'm sure they have. he said that he is not going resign though, what do you see as his future? >> i think he may have to resign, he may get indicted or expelled from the house of representatives, if he gets indicted and he refuses to step aside. it's revealing his communications director. he has no confidence anymore that his boss is telling the truth or has done things that are worth defending or possible to defend in good conscious and i'm assuming others will quit. i would say personally i would advise them to do so. i think it's the honorable thing to do. and given what seems to be the case, of his behavior. you know, it's so distasteful and in a way, and also so easy to make jokes about, i suppose in a way.
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but one forgets how really terrible it is. you know, exploiting this kind of predatory sexual behavior by a powerful man. exploiting much younger women whether they are under age or not with money, and with apparently drugs and with his buddy, this other fella who seems to have broken the law in all kinds of ways as gaetz may have too. in terms of the -- what just, just his behavior. and his behavior while he was a member of the state legislature in florida and then a member of congress. so, yeah, i think, it's hard to believe he can survive this. i'm a person that thought trump could not survive and marjorie taylor greene, it's a crew they have in the house republican conference. it's pretty amazing. >> well, yeah, i mean, david, you are a fellow floridian, familiar with gaetz as a politician, he loves a fight. is this different than what he faced before? >> yeah, very much is different, chris. and largely tonight florida republicans are moving past matt
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gaetz, assuming his political career is over. and that likely some combination of a resignation or an indictment is very likely in matt gaetz's future and it should be. if the facts are true, as being reported and to bill's point, i think we often see politics kind of as this arena of sport, but this is not just a typical scandal. the allegation, the indictment against gaetz's colleague, joel greenberg is causing a minor to engage in a commercial sex act. if that is something that matt gaetz has been involved in, i think it's important that we begin to look at the two first as sexual predators and then as politicians. not as politicians that got caught up in a sex act. this is sexual predatory behavior, of a child that is unable to consent to her own actions. it's a very grave matter and it's likely way gaetz's
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political career is over. >> to this point, politico has this, as gaetz mounts a vigorous public defense, he is findings few allies, a testament to his reputation that before he became a near constant presence on fox news, he relished slinking verbal barbs and getting in to fights regardless of party affiliation. what do you make of the radio silence from fellow republicans? >> well, radio silence is better than endorsements. he has a few of those. but what strikes me is where is a bit of indignation, a sense of this is terrible if that happened and a sense of this man should not be serving with us in our conference in congress. i have heard none of that. we don't know what happened yet. but has he been called in? have they asked person to person what the truth is about the various allegations.
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has jim jordan, the ranking member of the judiciary committee. have the two florida senators? has the florida governor? so they are happy to not know anything, which means they can just keep quiet. what kind of responsibility is that? you know, it's like with trump, they are pretending they don't know what is going on and they are tweeting about major league baseball and the you all-star game instead of one of their colleagues who they don't seem at all interested in holding to account. >> david, you know a lot of the members of that caucus and do you believe these reports that it was known if not widely known that it was known that there were these problems with matt gaetz, and that there was a lot of conversation about it? do you believe that this happened and nobody said anything? nobody did anything? that the leadership didn't address it? >> yeah, look, i would like to think that colleagues were in on not aware of criminal behavior,
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people are very much aware of matt gaetz's playboy personality. he arrived in washington with it. if you knew him and followed him in florida knew it was a matter of time before he found scandal on scandal found him. in the case, the scandal has a victim, if proven true, that is an under age child, the question is what do republicans do about it now. two of matt's closest allies are governor ron desantis and former president donald trump, neither will speak publicly on the matter and i think it says as much about desantis and trump as it does about gaetz, so what do the house republicans do? do they remove matt from committee? do had they wait for an indictment and then remove him? do they expel him from the house? the best thing he can do is hire a lawyer, shut up and resign. >> what do you think is going to
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happen, bill crystal? a wait and see to what will happen in the legal system before it happens on capitol hill? >> i don't know. i mean, i don't know. it's hard to predict these things these days. scandals that were once career enders turn out not to be at all. but i guess i think, yes, i think he will be forced to resign. i think we will hear i'm told that people in his district, a couple of very serious people are looking at maybe getting, announcing who have been thinking of running anyway because they felt he was a disgrace, are saying they will take him on. so we will see more erosion of political support. where is desantis, we is saw his photos with his buddy matt gaetz, can i say something about this? >> bill crystal, david jolly, you are both going to stay with us. >> we will talk about excerpts from john boehner's new book. more after a quick break. boehnek more after a quick breakwn
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and we are back, david jolly and bill crystal still with us, guys, i don't know if you saw the excerpt in politico john boehner, my fellow ohioan, he has things to say, about the republican party and starting by talking in 2010, you could be a moron and be elected, just have an r next to your name. and we did pick up a fair number in that category. adding by 2013, the chaos caucus had built up their own base, thanks to fawning right wing media and outrage driven fund-raising cash. and now they have had a new head luna particular. leading the way, who wasn't even a house member. there's nothing more dangerous than a reckless who think he is smarter than anybody else. ladies and gentlemen, meet senator ted cruz.
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classic boehner in his era. having said that, does he deserve some of the responsibility? some of the blame from your perspective for what has happened to the republican party? >> does john boehner or ted cruz? i think they both have had some blame. i think though, what boehner's book presents is almost a time stamp in one of the last evolutions of the republican party. which was maybe from the boehner class over to ted cruz in the tea party and why that time stamp is important is because of this. john boehner, despite his fierce resistance to barack obama's agenda and he it and he was dogged about it and he used to tools of the house to stop president obama. ted cruz represents a different type of on governing.
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almost against governing. he was the had shut down leader. he was the one that said we will have an absolutist ideology, and if you're not with us, you're against us. you can't govern that way. at least john boehner understood you have to governor and ted cruz and his class don't care about that. >> he calls out michelle bachmann and calls out sean hannity, many of them where they are and john boehner gone. does that talk about the return to the pre-trump republican party. >> yeah, the hopes are dim. you people from ohio, that is impressive, tell it like it is i get, from ohio. >> did you just say you people from ohio? >> what's that? yeah. i'm impressed by people from ohio. you, john boehner. you know, you guys tell it like it is. no, he seems like he does in the book.
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there's a bit of fair criticism that he takes as much responsibility as he might. there's a big difference between partisanship and what we are seeing. he would not have voted to overturn election results. he would not have sat there when a republican president took a party in to total denial of the truth in to a big lie and just thought, well that is fine, maybe i will not echo him but i'm not going to criticize him. john boehner, would have stood up for the rule of law and for decency in to politics in a way that kevin mccarthy didn't. whatever your problem is with john boehner, it's worse today. >> bill crystal, david jolly, great of you to stay up with us on a friday night. appreciate it. >> we will be right back. >> we will be right back
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did you know that every single flush flings odors onto your soft surfaces? then they get release back into the air, so you smell them later. ew right? that's why febreze created small spaces. press firmly and watch it get to work. unlike the leading cone, small spaces continuously eliminates odors in the air and on surfaces. so they don't come back for 45 days. just imagine what it can do with other odors.
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all travelers regardless of vaccination status should continue to wear masks on planes, trains, buses, and other forms of public transportation. while we believe that fully vaccinated people can travel without risk to themselves, cdc is not recommending travel at this time due to the rising number of cases. >> so the cdc relaxing travel guidance for fully vaccinated americans. but remember, we're not in the clear yet. the most recent data showing the seven-day average of new coronavirus cases is above 62,000 a day, up 8% since last week. the white house has ramped up efforts to vaccinate more americans.
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at least 100 million people getting at least one dose of the vaccine, 30% overall of the population. joining us, dr. vin gupta. always good to see you, dr. gupta. i want to get some clarity on the new travel guidelines. they say people that are fully vaccinated can travel safely within the united states. for international travel, they don't need a covid-19 test prior to travel unless their destination requires it, and they don't need to self-quarantine after returning to the united states. we're told the risk is low as long as you wear a mask. but they're still discouraging non-essential travel. is there a mixed message? do people just want to hear the part where you can travel safely? >> good evening. always good to see you. i agree, it might be confusing
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for the american public. in my opinion, i'd say we've long known these vaccines are safe and effective to keep you out of the hospital. all of them that are approved in the united states. if you follow the guidance in terms of safe travel. i was on a flight from arizona, i saw a lot of people cover just their mouth, not their nose. if you're doing all the right things, travel is safe if you're vaccinated. that's the message. obviously, we would like to have people hold off on travel plans because of the variant spread. that's where the cdc is being careful. but if you need to travel, do all the things that we've been begging people to do. appropriately mask, hand hygiene, and keep yourself and others safe. >> it is interesting, when you travel. and i've been traveling a lot,
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too, to see the variations in the different states and rural versus urban areas. tell us a little bit about that trip to arizona. what did you see and are there any lessons there? >> two things. number one, i saw that -- i was caring for an icu at night that had the median ages of individuals, early 40s. i had a mid-30-year-old patient that had a syndrome, full body paralysis, a rare complication of coronavirus. that, to me, it's so difficult to predict these uncertain side effects from this virus. but they predominantly affect -- strokes, for example. i have seen that happen occasionally in young people. because of the uncertainty in the way the virus affects young people, and what i saw in arizona with my own two eyes, if you're watching this broadcast right now, get the vaccine. there's no reason to pose
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yourself that risk of uncertainty. that's number one. two number, i would say, when we talk about surges, what we see is happening in france, with the icus in paris, across india, across brazil, parts of toronto. the world is in chaos right now. we're headed in a better direction, but in arizona, i saw a community hospital that had to invent ventilation and negative pressure rooms. in places that never should have. >> brian: icus. our progress is fragile, it's real, but it's fragile. stay vigilant, get the vaccine. >> and since you were part of the effort to get the mariners ballpark open safely, are you feeling confident about the baseball season this year? >> yes. as long as all 30 teams, not just some of them, do common sense things. reduce capacity, follow local guidelines, make masks mandatory, social distancing, obviously, we had an outdoor stadium with the mariners.
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most ballparks are outdoors. that's going to be helpful. common sense policies, you can create a safe environment. >> dr. vin gupta, always great to see you. thank you so much. more "11th hour" after a quick break. gillette proglide. five blades and a pivoting flexball designed to get virtually every hair on the first stroke. so you're ready for the day with a fresh face for a fresh start. for a limited time get a 5th cartridge free.
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we leave you on this good friday with the image of the white house flag flying at half-staff tonight. the third time in three weeks that government flags have been ordered to be lowered. the deadly shootings in georgia, then colorado, and now this in washington. tonight, the nation is remembering officer william "billy" evans, who lost his life defending the capitol today and the people there. he was an 18-year veteran of the capitol police, and a member of the capitol's first responder unit and the father of two. our hearts are with his family and the capitol police family. that is our broadcast for this friday night. thank you for being with us. have a good holiday weekend and
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