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she gets my last word. "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts now well, good evening once again on a wednesday night day 71 of the biden administration and we have a lot administration and we have a lot on our radar including another emotional day at the chauvin murder trial capped off with police body cam video of george floyd's ultimately fatal arrest, the footage revealing the escalation of the deadly encounter, much more on that and this day in court just ahead and also the day the president rolled out what he called a once in a generation opportunity to revamp the economy starting with infrastructure, rebuilding our country by starting with the bones. he traveled to pittsburgh to unveil his massive proposal to sure up the nation's ageing
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roads and bridges and rail lines and utilities, a plan he says will transform the united states. >> i'm proposing a plan for the nation that rewards work, not just rewards wealth. it's not a plan that tinkers around the edges it's a once in a generation investment in america unlike anything we've seen or done since we built the interstate highway system and the space race decades ago in fact, the largest american jobs investment since world war ii it's big, yes. it's bold, yes and we can get it done. >> biden says it will cost over $2 trillion among his plans to pay for it a corporate tax hike from the current 21% to 28%. keep in mind he just siped his $1.9 trillion covid relief act
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into law without republican support. the plan biden introduced today is part one he says he'll announce part two helping the nation's families, education and health care and the like in a matter of weeks. today he invited republicans to work with him on both. >> the division for the moment shouldn't stop the future. i'll bring republicans into the oval office, listen to them what they have to say and be open to other ideas. we'll have a good faith negotiation to any republican that wants to get this done but we have to get it done. >> biden says he's talked with republican leader mitch mcconnell about this during an appearance this morning in kentucky mcconnell confirmed he indeed had a conversation with the president, went on to say this and we quote, it's like a trojan horse. it's called infrastructure but
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inside the trojan horse, it's going to be more borrowed money and massive tax increases. in other words, they want to reverse the tax reform that we did in just 2017 while mitch mcconnell stays on brand and says exactly what's expected of him the white house remains focused on efforts to head off a fourth wave of the virus in our country today we learned the mass vaccination effort underway could include younger teenagers, pfizer says the clinical trial shows the doses are 100% effective in kids and a former fda commissioner believes they will be eligible to get the shot by the time school starts. >> they will go through the same careful process they have gone through with the other data sets for the population but puts you in a position of having this available, hopefully if everything goes well and the fda review holds up puts you in a position to have it available for the fall. >> right now nearly 54 million americans are fully vaccinated and that's a big deal. today senator and former nasa astronaut mark kelly was doing
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his part to help get shots in arms in arizona. we're also learning that some future shipments of the single-shot johnson & johnson vaccine are being delayed because of a manufacturing error. fda is now investigating what happened doesn't affect anything already on the market. for new cases, the cdc says those are up 12% from last week. there is still over 60,000 a day. here is a name you haven't heard in awhile. sarah palin tells "people magazine" she tested positive for coronavirus. she's urging people to take steps to protect themselves including wearing masks. meanwhile, the cdc today announced the virus ranked as the third leading cause of death in our country last year after heart disease and cancer there is also news tonight in two major investigations to bring you up to speed on "the new york times" reports the manhattan district attorney's office subpoenaed the personal bank records of trump
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organization cfo allen weisselberg who has been with the trumps for years he appeared on "the apprentice" with donald trump. they are scrutinizing gifts he and his family received from trump. florida republican congressman and trump supporter matt gaetz is indeed under investigation for possible sex trafficking stemming from a case involving an associate gaetz has denied any wrongdoing. here's where this gets really complicated tonight. "the washington post" now reports gaetz's own father, don, was approached by two men who told him he could give a huge sum of money to fund their effort to locate one robert
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levinson, the longest held american hostage in iran whose family has said they are told they have been told he is dead. the post writes gaetz father was told if the operation was a success, he would win favor with the u.s. government and help alleviate gaetz legal woes fearing his family was being extorted, don gaetz contacted the fbi and told them he's working with the burro and has worn a wire. matt gaetz was asked about this sex trafficking investigation and about gaetz future on the committee. >> those are serious implications if it comes out to be true, yes, we would remove him if that were the case. right now as matt gaetz said it is not true so let get all the information. >> with that let's bring in our lead off guests on this wednesday night. peter baker, correspondent for "the new york times" and a.b. stoddard who wears glasses on occasion, veteran washington journalist and associate editor and columnist. i'm right there with you from real clear politics
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and chuck rosenberg, former u.s. attorney, and senior fbi official, notable host of the popular msnbc podcast "the oath." it took just over 4 1/2 years but we finally got our infrastructure week. how heavy a lift is this for joe biden? >> it as heavy as it could get obviously. you would think republicans and democrats could agree on rebuilding roads and bridges and broad band, something president trump talked about and something both parties talked about for years. every district, every state has a wish list of things they think need to get taken care of. and yet, despite that, i think that we're see a partisan battle because republicans see an advantage in opposing president biden on taxes they may like infrastructure but don't like the idea of a rather
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large tax bill, by some mess -- measures, the largest in decades. that's a natural dividing point between the parties in this country and particularly in niece days you have a president that talks bipartisan but he may try to push it through on a party line vote using the reconciliation process in the senate to get around the filibuster. that's a heavy lift by itself. >> a.b., south dakota governor christie nome has managed or mismanaged coronavirus in that state depending on your perspective went on hannity tonight and found apparently a
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unique way to attack the infrastructure initiative. we'll discuss on the other side. >> every single family will pay the price for what joe biden's agenda is. he'll drive up the price of the food and grocery bill. he'll drive up the cost of utilities, gas prices, cars, the clothes they dress their children in. everything they do each and every day will be more expensive, their budgets will be tighter because they will be earning less because of these policies and tax increases joe biden is doing. >> i'll bet you dinner those talking points arrived in her in box and we'll hear the same thing from other elected republicans but biden is going hard on his belief that families who make below $400,000 a year will not have to pay more for this is this talking point really a way in for the gop or a non-starter? >> well, you know, they have been talking about their rhetoric on a coming infrastructure package for months saying it's going to be a
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green new deal wrapped in a tax hike so no matter what the president proposes, they're going to say it a green new deal wrapped in a tax hike. we should say the reason joe biden is doing this is because joe biden has just astonishingly good approval numbers right now. i have no idea the last -- i'm surprised how high they are not only on the covid response but general job approval and this -- all of these proposals are popular even taxish corporations on the wealthy to pay for infrastructure it's popular among republican voters and trump voters. in a moment of crisis at the beginning of his presidency, joe biden is making clear he's willing to go for broke because he believes this is popular and has a window to do this. where it will break down as
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peter eluded to is among his own party if he's trying to use a narrow process to get through a party line vote, i think that talking point for republicans later this year and as we get into an election year next year, look, joe biden never included us in any of these negotiations, he's just ran through and incredibly ambitious agenda items without taking proposals or seeking votes that's more powerful than this paying for all of this needed infrastructure with tax hikes is a non-starter. the voters so far think this is a good trade off. >> chuck, to you, my friend, though you've done nothing to deserve it, it falls upon you to explain this a case about mr. gaetz and these seemingly two investigations number one, the sex trafficking, number two, this alleged extortion. do the investigations continue
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independent of one another >> well, perhaps, brian. look both of those things could be true both of those things could be false or one or the other could be true. sometimes people who commit crimes are also victims of crime and so while it does complicate it a little bit at least in terms of our understanding, i'm sure the agents and prosecutors know or are learning what happened, i have two things to say. let me take you on a very short tour of my very small brain. with respect to mr. gaetz, if it is true he trafficked minor women, children for sex purposes, he ought to go to jail it a heinous crime but revealing the investigation at this stage is never a good thing for investigators and prosecutors. they want to keep it quiet as long as they can to secure documents and evidence so witnesses will come forth and so
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evidence doesn't get tainted if it's not true and he didn't do this and i'm not a fan of his, it's not fair to him. another reason we keep investigations quiet so because often we don't bring charges and there is nothing we can prove and so either way i think it unfortunate that it leaked but to your larger question, you can have two crimes and two investigations simultaneously, they're not mutually exclusive. >> all right, peter baker back to your beat biden has the first full cabinet meeting tomorrow even though there is a room in the west wing called the cabinet room it will be in the east room so they can all be together yet at a safe distance 72 days into his presidency in part because he was deprived of a traditional transition does it matter that it's this late to have them all rowing together >> well, look, it matters to get
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cabinet appointees and deputies and assistants and all the people that help them in place and that's where biden is behind and has a lot of work to do. putting the cabinet together in a room is relatively symbolic more than anything else and rarely a meaningful act. doing it in the east room is a sign of how we govern and operate in washington these days this is a white house unlike the last one takes covid more seriously. you have people reporting to work every day and sit in their offices and have meetings with each other via zoom without actually walking next door because in fact it's still a pretty tightly controlled environment. so putting them in the east room is a way of keeping them at some safe distance even though presumably they have all been vaccinated it's a way of biden showing he's doing business and i think he'd
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like to show them off to the public because there is a diversity to this team we haven't seen in any cabinet before up to this level but governing is not all that significant. >> a.b., the counselor that protests too much and chuck describing the investigation at heart in this gaetz case and it falls to you to talk about the politics of it how much trouble is gaetz in does it stop at him and in the gop, will they cut him loose >> he learned from donald trump former congresswoman from virginia barbara came up with this wonderful phrase about congressional kardashians and before donald trump there were some who came to congress with the intent only to get on cable tv and make themselves as well-known as possible and have social media followers as
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possible matt gaetz learned from donald trump to stay on offense. this is why he went on tucker carlson's show last night and why he's blabbing about this and why he won't stop talking about it because he believes you get right in everyone's face and deny it and stay emphatic and angry about it and don't hide from the press i think that's not what his colleagues want, but not one of them has come out to say this is really disturbing, and you saw how uncomfortable this made the house minority leader kevin mccarthy in trying to respond to questions about how he would deal with it so in the culture of the party you have to stay defiant and your colleagues usually remain silent i think it takes a lot to cut people loose these days in the republican party as you've seen.
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it's sort of a contest of who can meet the next outrage. but it's -- it's just in the age of trump you're not allowed to say anything in the press to your voters at a town hall or anything about how this might be really upsetting and it might be illegal. you just pretend you didn't see the tweet or you didn't read the news story >> wow well-put chuck, you get the last word why would the manhattan da be digging around the personal finances of the long time trump cfo and consillary mr. weisselberg? >> they're probably doing that, brian, because they think he may and committed a crime. we don't just investigate people so we can use them as leverage against others we investigate people when we believe they've committed crimes
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if the manhattan d.a. simply wanted to use mr. weisselberg against mr. trump or others in a criminal case, you don't have to go through all this trouble. you can simply immunize him, put imine the grand jury, secure his testimony and move forward the investigation. i think the answer to your question is they suspect he may have engaged in some sort of wrongdoing or fraud as well and he's under investigation for it. i think it may be that simple. that would be my best guest. can i add one other thing, brian? tomorrow is a really important day. it's opening day, the best day of the year. i wanted to wish everyone a happy opening day. >> i can't thank you enough for that i was reflecting on the last time you and i saw each other. you stood in my office and held in your hand the baseball signed by the great henry aaron who we've lost in the interim several months since we've seen each other in person so thank you for injecting that
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bit of humanity to our viewers this is why you invite really smart people to start your broadcast. peter baker, a.b. stoddard, chuck rosenberg, much obliged. thank you all for starting us off tonight. coming up, another highly emotional day inside the minneapolis courthouse where derek chauvin stands trial prosecutors play new video of george floyd moments before his death. and later, will companies do what government can't? how two of georgia's biggest corporations, two of the best known brand names in the world are weighing in on voter suppression. "the 11th hour" is just getting under way on this wednesday night.
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head during that time period >> disbelief and guilt >> why guilt >> if i would have just not taken the bill this could have been avoided >> interesting testimony today from another thoughtful guy. store clerk chris martin he was the first to realize the $20 bill that george floyd had given him was likely fake. he was going to let it slide in the end his boss decided to call the cops, and sadly the rest is history. martin can be seen on the exterior surveillance video with his hands over his head, pacing around in anguish as this unfolded another video from inside the store shows george floyd moments before the police arrived. there was also emotional testimony today from a witness named charles mcmillian, just a citizen who lives near the store, witnessed a death today he broke down on the stand after seeing the new video
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[crying] >> mr. mcmillan, do you need a minute [crying] >> i know this is difficult. can you just explain sort of what you're feeling in this moment >> i can -- i felt helpless. >> for more we're happy to welcome justin, a law professor at howard university and executive director at thurgood marshall civil rights center and a scholar on civil rights, the race and the law he was arrested while working as a legal observer during the protest in ferguson, missouri in 2014 professor, thank you very much for coming on.
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i just want to begin with how overpowering that moment was, how overpowering in ordinary ways so much of the testimony has been, so identifiable and relatable. everyone has a charles mcmillian in their life. he is someone you instantly know because you know someone just like him just a guy who had to talk today about what he observed talk about the effect this ordinary humanity is going to have on a jury of ordinary citizens >> well, i think you hit on the point exactly. the ordinary humanity and trauma and anguish experienced by mr. mcmillian and mr. parten has to be something the jurors take into consideration
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and in fact, research has shown that the trama from witnesses police violence is worse than witnessing other types of violence you can't avoid the police they are all over the place. you have few resources for action you heard how helpless he felt the victims are often stigmatized. your general feeling of safety is ever changed and i fear the long term mental health impact on mr. mcmillan and many people at the scene and around the country who were traumatized by what happened. >> it would be almost impossible for that not to be the case. sadly. you point out something so smart that people who are watching this gavel to gavel as it were may not pause to realize prosecutors aren't used to prosecuting the police so how rare is this dynamic we are watching in this courtroom >> we can't talk enough about how rare police prosecutions
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are. prosecutors are the colleagues of police. they don't see police as defendants they see them as their co-workers so i'm very interested to see how police -- excuse me, how prosecutors address this prosecution, which is so different. for most of them, this is the first and likely the last time in their careers that they are going to be actually prosecuting a police officer we saw it in the trayvon martin case and rodney king case regardless of the video evidenced, those prosecutions were not successful. whether it was a prosecutor's skill, will or the laws on the books that are difficult to overcome, when it becomes time to try to create accountability for police, prosecutions are often unsuccessful when it comes to holding law enforcement officers accountable. >> point i made last night if you're born with a beating heart
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and any kind of measurable empathy, the video of mr. floyd's death is no less powerful, no less painful to watch the tenth time as it is the first. in your view, are we left to simply hope that good comes out of it? >> you know, i think we have to do more than hope. i'm actually working with the mike brown foundation to seek to find ways to respond to the mental health of these police violence whether it providing support to families and bystanders or a bill that could have the government provide support. we have to do more than just hope that good can come from these types of incidents we have to work to make sure that good comes from these incidents and i think we can do
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that because we saw people around the country take to the streets and i think the people have spoken. >> final question has nothing to do with this, everything to do with where you work. how does it feel to have a howard university bison in the second highest office in the land >> i'm a third generation howard university bison so you cannot beat it and i think the united states of america is lucky to have a howard university bison in that office and i think we're going to be very happy with how things turn out over the next four years >> i thought you might say something like that, professor justin hansford, thank you, sir, for staying up with us and taking our questions appreciate it. hope to have you back. coming up for us this evening what are the chances the anguish we've watched play out on our televisions this week might lead as the professor was saying, as the professor was hoping to real change in this country? two of our favorite voices standing by to join us when we come back.
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witnesses who are just people in the community. jurors in the trial will soon have his fate in their hands this now former police officer as we have been saying, the world is watching. back with us tonight, baratunde thurston, activist, comedian with trevor noah and host of the podcast how to citizen, also host of the upcoming pbs series america outdoors with, wait for it, baraton and former advisor to george w. bush and john mcclain. and now he's thankfully one of the co-hosts of "the circus" on show time. because we have nothing but awful terrible things to talk about, let's just take 20 minutes, point of personal privilege. look at you and your pbs finery.
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i read the press release like we were blood relatives we around here like to take credit for everything good that has happened in your career, even though nothing could be further from the truth take 20 seconds, tell the good folks about the show and about the podcast episode that drops tomorrow. >> thank you, brian. so gracious and generous i'm hosting with pbs called "america outdoors" ways that haven't been done before and be done a lot more and tomorrow the podcast of the season two drops in all your podcast feeds. folks should check out how to and look at the nation's divisions and explore it not through beer summits but our economy which rips so many of us apart and keeps us from each other and always finding better ways to citizen through our relationship with money. it will be very inspiring. >> thank you for saying that and we'll do that and leave it to you to find the only outdoor tv job in the midst of an uncontrolled pandemic.
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and now i have to steer this conversation back to -- i guess you heard my discussion with the professor from howard university it is the endless string of humanity, regular people who could be in any of our lives on the stand speaking english and using emotion from a 9-year-old girl to a 69-year-old man. talk about the humanity of this case built around the humanity we saw drained from a man in the street. >> for the past year, i've had to build up a psychic wall around myself to survive and i have been avoiding this trial all week because i wasn't ready to be retraumatized by memorial day 2020 the way you just phrased that has brought a lot of that back to the surface and what is
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remarkable is when you see the range of that humanity all week on display, an off duty firefighter, a jujitsu expert who happened to be walking by, a store employee, a would be customer, a passer by noticing something is up. and all these people trying to intervene and preserve the humanity of a fellow citizen and being thwarted and to hear them this week not just what they experienced but felt after, they all felt guilty for not saving george floyd's life. they felt responsible for his death. everybody seems to have felt responsible for george floyd's death except the one person who is responsible for george floyd's death. derek chauvin and the police officers who let him do what he did. so i am in awe of the humanity and i'm in pain over the lack of
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it displayed by those entrusted with our own safety. >> yeah, i'm right there with you. mark, i happen to know you believe this could be one of the most important trials of our adult lifetimes. tell us why. >> i think it is, brian. i mean, as i watched today it sort of snuck up on me as a lot of people how powerful and talk about the humanity and collective community experiencing both grief and guilt over what they saw sort of a reverse effect where everybody is seeing the same thing but they're having the same feelings rather than having extorted view or different view. i think america is experiencing that, as well and i'm trying to think back over my lifetime to think about a trial that will be more consequential ultimately, i believe. i think this will have a profound impact and i think it already has and just in
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everybody's viewing and sensibility about what they're seeing about community, about policing, about -- i just think the conventional wisdom about these things is being completely thrown out the window in a good way. i mean, i think we're all seeing this in a way that we've never seen it before not in rodney king, not in o.j not in a lot of trials we've seen there is more perspective. there is more media. there is more insight. and there is more collective community input and observing of what is going on and to me, it sort of hit me today i feel like whoa, this is something really powerful happening and i think the outcome is going to be -- is going to be huge and have an earthquake impact on our collective psyche and culture in ways we can't imagine. >> i'm right there with you, too. both of these men and their combined humanity have agreed to stick around while we fit in a break and coming up, corporate
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america. speaking out against limiting voters' rights question is, will big logos make a big difference
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statement in favor of the new law. still, with us, our guests hey, mark, i have it on good authority that was audio only of kemp, why doesn't he embrace the hard fought well-deserved tradition in georgia for voter suppression? that would be new and remarkable >> well, as you recall, they signed the bill under a painting of old plantation that couldn't have sent a more racist signal if it walks like suppression and talks like suppression, it's suppression. at the end of the day if you're passing a law that makes i a criminal offense to handout water and food to people who have to wait in line that is voter suppression. if you're taking away drop boxes thanks is voter suppression. the greatest fraud in america today is the notion that there is systemic voter fraud. there is zero evidence of that
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donald trump's attorney general had that finding the texas attorney general spent 22,000 man hours trying to find fraud. that's 1300 hours per man hour to find a bad address. it simply doesn't exist. it a solution in search of a problem that isn't there and speaking as a republican or trying to remain a republican, when you're sending a message over and over again that you're ultimate intent is to have fewer people votes, you got a problem, houston. >> baratunde, think of all these initials doj, naacp, lcau, good hearted people everywhere are watching voter suppression in realtime in front of our faces and being told it's something else people are outraged by this and yet, what does it say? let me take the other side what does it say that it takes
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coke and delta to get angry and put out nasty statements about this to get the attention of some folks >> in the best version of myself i hope it means that when companies say black lives matter, they also start to act like it and i hope it means they recognize we have to be in this together that to be a thriving corporation in a state is no achievement at all they have to live in the same society with us and it sad to reflect on mr. mckinnon, nice hat, your formerish party so doubling down not being anti democratic party but anti democracy and the more we acre knowledge that's what is happening, the more we can do things that need to be done like passing the for the people act and restoration act and things that will strengthen our democracy rather than weaken and undermine it and make us less
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civic and less american. >> i need 30 seconds from you. how bad does the matt gaetz case get and how deep does it go? >> i'll get on that in one second, brian. i want to say i think that what's going to happen with the republican suppression strategy is it's going to backfire and blow up in a big way i think all this is doing is animating democrats to say we'll make sure to get out and vote. you tell us we can't vote. we'll be there matt gaetz is clawing his way to the bottom faster than anybody i've ever seen listen, we're going to with hold judgment until the rule of law figures this out but it is telling when the last few weeks he's been trying to get a job in broadcast news. so look out, brian >> oh, boy, i did note that. when that came across, current events may derail those plans.
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mark, look so good in hats if we all looked that way, we'd all be wearing them. thank you. baratunde thurston, always a pleasure don't forget your friends who knew you on the way up before you get all pbs. please both of you continue to come on and spend some time with us thanks, both gentlemen coming up for us, something you may need to carry with you as part of what we're told to call our new normal has something to do with these folks. i've been telling everyone, the secret to great teeth... is having healthy gums. new crest advanced gum restore... detoxifies below the gum line, and restores by helping heal gums in as little as seven days. crest. the #1 toothpaste brand in america.
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there are going to be hiccups but these vaccines are rocketing along, all 50 states have announced plans to open up vaccinations to all adults by the first of may just as more states are reopening, more americans are flying many of them figure, this is the safety the vaccine was designed to give us
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and now politics is wound up in the issue on whether or not we should all carry proof of vaccination. tonight, nbc news correspondent tom costello has the latest on what vaccine passports might look like. >> reporter: spring break and the nation's airlines say leisure travel has come roaring back passenger volume pushes 1.5 million each day this week a million more than a year ago >> it's nice that at united airlines we can see that light at the end of the tunnel >> reporter: with so many passengers, delta today said it will stop blocking middle seats on may 1st, but will americans need so-called vaccine passports? proof of vaccinations to get into concerts, sporting events or even travel the white house says that's up to the private sector. >> the government here is not viewing its role as the place to create a passport, nor a place to hold the data of citizens >> reporter: the governor of tourist hot spot florida says he will forbid local governments or businesses from requiring
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vaccination proof. >> you don't want to create separate classes of citizens based on whether somebody received vaccine >> reporter: with no national standard, states, companies and health care providers are coming up with their own options. new york state releasing excelsior pass for people to upload digital vaccine information and covid test results. while overseas, many european countries, japan, israel and global airlines are pushing their own vaccine passports, hoping to jump-start tourism in the u.s., there is no vaccination database this is what you get when you receive your vaccine the question is whether this is enough for a potential vaccine passport >> important story and our thanks to tom costello for reporting on that from washington coming up, the robust business of spreading misinformation on the virus and, yes, it helps if a cable network helps you get your message out
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last thing before we go tonight. the ongoing campaign of coronavirus misinformation and disinformation and its willing enablers at certain cable news networks you can call it the other big lie. as you watch this next fella talk, in a style reminiscent of any local car dealer ad, the kind they tell you, even if you have to tow in your trade-in, we're making deals during this toyotathon, try to remember this as you watch this guy. he has an undergraduate degree from tufts he has a masters and a ph.d at harvard. those institutions must be so very proud of peter navarro. last seen carrying a white house photo to his car on his last day at work, the noted conspiracy theorist peter navarro was the trade czar in the trump white house and was in charge of ramping up production during covid.
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so just like azar and birx and pence, the whole lot of them, he bears whatever his share is of the responsibility for the malpractice, mismanagement and the death toll one thing you may not have heard, this is news, is the virus is dr. fauci's fault at least that's what peter navarro says and it must be true, because he said it on fox news and they seemed fine with it >> fauci is a sociopath and a liar he had nothing to do with the vaccine. the father of the vaccine is donald j. trump. what is fauci the father of? fauci is the father of the actual virus fa fauci's the guy -- this virus according to bob redfield at the centers for disease control, came from the wuhan lab. and basically, we had fauci not only funding that lab with american taxpayer dollars, he authorized this thing called gain of function research.
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he allowed the chinese communist party, the people's liberation army, to genetically engineer a virus using gain of function i call it the fauci virus now. if he wants to be the father of something, he's the father of the virus that's killed over half a million americans >> well, peter, we're still trying to get to the bottom of that and we're going to bring you back when we get more information on it, but you're right, there's a lot of questions out there. peter, i can't thank you enough for joining me today >> remember, folks, even if you have to tow it in. peter navarro hit all the marks there, didn't he fauci, an obvious sociopath. you have the chinese, the communists, the people's liberation army. and even as the fox anchor pointed out, there's a lot of questions out there. you see, in our business, that's what you say when it's just too messy to say that your guest just lied on live tv and that's going to do it for us this wednesday night look at the time with our thanks for being here with us, on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night
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