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♪ she is and will always be my sister. i don't know what happened to her. i don't get to say good-bye. it's so awful. it makes your whole world fall apart. >> if you took her, please, just let her come home. >> her name is heather elvis. it was news nationwide when she vanished. >> she had a new job. she was going on a first date.
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>> it was all so overwhelmingly horrible. >> she's missing, where is she at? >> police worked the clues. her car abandoned. >> i was scared to death to open that trunk. >> a mysterious caller captured on camera. >> why would this person call from a pay phone in the middle of the night? >> then came the secret. >> she was married. >> rumors about her being pregnant. >> she truly believed she was his wife. >> anger, betrayal, revenge. >> a bomb exploded. world war iii. >> this crazy love triangle, kidnapping potential murder. >> this is heather's life we're talking about. >> terrifying. >> when you see your parents hurting, you wish that you can take all their pain away. with something like this, it's impossible. >> myrtle beach, south carolina, vacation heaven.
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60 miles of instagram worthy sand and surf, and thrills at every turn. but leave the tourists behind and go inland nearly 20 minutes to a bend in the river. it's tranquil. the trees are draped in spanish moss. there is a boat landing here with a fancy name, peachtree landing. >> it's a quiet spot you can go think. you don't get a loft that in a small town. so when you find a spot, you go all the time. >> what happened here to 20-year-old heather elvis in 2013 became an enduring mystery. >> i know there is no way heather would not come home if she could come home. no way. >> you don't realize how much somebody's face means to you until you can't see it anymore. >> a family anguished, clinging to hope, searching for answers, a journey that would consume them for years.
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>> one of my best friends came to the house. he looked at me and he said, he said, i hope she didn't suffer. i can't get that thought from my head. >> heather was born in 1993. the middle kid, sandwiched between elder brother chris and younger sister morgan. as morgan vividly remembered, heather would never let a label define her. >> she wasn't really a girly girl or a tomboy, she was somewhere in between. she loved heels. she would never let you swap shoes with her, though. i mean, god forbid i borrowed a pair of shoes and i did not tell her. she was coming for me. she just loved them. but she also would drive four
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wheelers and play volleyball and shoot paint ball guns. and then she'd turn around and put on a dress and go you know look beautiful for photos. >> her parents debbie and terry elvis say heather was driven by a passion to create. she drew all the time, decorating the family house with her doodles. >> everywhere you went in the house, there was some kind of writing or some kind of drawing or some kind of doodle. >> her brain is working overtime? >> constantly. >> just a reminder, a small desk in the house that i sit at has a computer at it. there is little sticky notes all over the top part of the desk. and the one that sits right in front of my face just in her handwriting, heather is amazing with a little heart on it. >> and heather was amazing when it came to cosmetology, the art of makeup. in a way that only siblings can. she sparked morgan's interest in it, too. >> she said cosmetology was hers. i was not allowed to have it, and i did it any way.
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that's kind of what sisters do. >> oh go, tell me about it. >> don't tell me no because i'm going to do it any way. >> she wanted to be a makeup artist and she wanted to do fashion and possibly weddings, something like that. she wanted to do something where she could be creative and design what she was doing. >> she had her license. she had just recently gotten it. it was something she wanted to do so she pursued it. >> after graduation from high school in 2011, heather began working at a local pub, the tilted kilt. she became a hostess. breanna warm man, known as bri, worked with her there. >> she'd walk them back to the table. she would already have them laughing, having a conversation, same thing when they were leaving. >> bri shared almost everything, including her apartment. and when heather confided she didn't always see eye to eye with her parents, that well,
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that was hardly unusual for a young woman determined to make her own way. >> they loved each other dearly. it's just i think they knocked heads, because heather wanted to explore. >> as for boyfriends, bri watch heather go through ups and downs. just recently, she emerged from a difficult relationship with an older man. >> i know for a fact she had feelings for him. you don't fall out of love as much as that as sometimes we wish we could. >> on december 17th, 2013, everything was falling into place for heather. she got a new job as a makeup artist, had a date with a new guy. even learned how to drive a stick shift in her date's truck. there she was in a picture she sent to her dad. >> she was proud of herself. it was a good day for her. >> you two must have been so proud of her that day. >> i think the picture, it was like i did it without you. but you couldn't help but be proud of it. >> and then, two days later, a knock at debbie and terry's
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door. a police officer with an odd question. were they missing a car? >> that was his exact words, are you missing a car? i looked in the driveway, nope, they're all there, not thinking about that he found a car somewhere. >> was heather's car registered in her name? >> it was still in our name. >> that's why he was at your doorstep. >> yeah. terry came up right behind me and asked what was going on. he explained he found heather's car at the landing. >> what was going on if heather's car was at the landing, then where was she? coming up, a family holds on to hope. >> one of the local hospitals said that a heather elvis had come in on their own and had been released. >> but fear creeps. in. >> i felt like something was wrong. >> he said let's take a look in the trunk. i was scared to death to open that trunk. >> when "the landing" continues.
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heather elvis' parents didn't know what to think. two days earlier their daughter had been all smiles out on a date. now a policeman was at their door and just found heather's car at peachtree landing abandoned. >> the officer said do you have extra keys or a spare key for the car? i said, yes. he said, grab those, let's take a look at it. >> heather's mom, debbie, tried calling her daughter's cell phone. >> it was going straight to voice mail, it wasn't ringing. >> while her dad terry drove down to the landing with the police officer. >> as we pulled up, we could see the car was sitting, facing the water. >> he took us there explaining what the officer showed him that night. >> he had shined the spotlight on the back of the car. checked the tag. >> it was his daughter's dodge intrepid. right away terry could see something was off.
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>> but instead of being this way, the car was turned this way, basically taking up two, possibly three parking spaces. i unlocked the car for him. he stopped and he put on gloves. he handed me a pair and said just to be on the safe side. >> terry elvis couldn't understand it. the last time he heard from heather was when she sent that photo from her date. she was fine. now she was nowhere to be found and he was searching her abandoned car. >> on the center console, her driver's license was there. >> that's weird. >> and a couple other business cards and identification cards. but there were no keys. >> that's when the officer said something that made terry elvis' heart skip a beat. >> he said, let's take a look in the trunk and i looked back and i turned the key. he said, let me open it. i said, let me lift it.
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>> he held his breath as the lid to his daughter's trunk popped opened. >> were you worried about -- >> i was scared to death to open that trunk. we both looked in, it was fine, there was nothing there. >> there was plenty of clutter, no sign of foul play. by that point, bri, who had been out of town for several days had gotten word her best friend heather was missing. >> i called her dad who was with police at the time -- at peachtree and he had asked, when the last time i had talked to heather was. >> bri told the two men heather had called from their apartment a day earlier around 1:30 a.m. tuesday, fresh from her date. >> she said, i had an amazing day. i'm supposed so see him tomorrow when he gets off work. >> bri said heather didn't want to chat about the new guy. she was upset about a call she had gotten from that older man she once dated. his name was sidney. weeks earlier, he dumped heather. >> her exact words, sidney called me.
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i was like, what, she was like, yeah. i said, what did he say? she said he wanted to see me. >> bri told her friend not to do anything rash. >> and i was like, heather, don't you dare. don't you dare. you've been doing so good. look how far you've come without him. you finally met a good guy. she was like, you know what? you're right. let me get some sleep. i'm exhausted, and i love you, because we always say i love you when we hang up, and hung up. >> and that was it, bri said, the last time she spoke with heather. it was news to terry. he'd never heard of a sidney before. then the officer had an idea. >> the officer starts calling hospitals to check and see if she had been admitted somewhere. when he called one of the local hospitals, they said a heather elvis had come in on her own and had been released. >> he thought heather must be okay. eventually the officer told
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terry to take heather's car and head home. terry's relief was short lived when he told his wife the story about checking into a hospital. debbie didn't believe it. >> because she knows it's expensive to go to the emergency room and she wouldn't want that kind of expense. so she would have called me and said hey, this is what's wrong. what do i do? >> so the couple did what they could, calling family and friends. no one had heard from heather. eventually, though, one relative cleared up that hospital mystery. >> we found out the heather that was in the hospital is my cousin's daughter named the same thing. we didn't have the middle name, only first and last. >> what are the odds that it's another -- >> at the same time. >> -- heather elvis at the same time going to the hospital? >> it was puzzling. >> so where was their heather? confusion was turning to fear. >> it felt like something was wrong. >> heather's sister morgan arrived home from a basketball game.
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>> had they told you at this point who was going on? >> i kind of picked up what was going on through conversation. >> that heather -- >> was nowhere to be found. that no one could get ahold of her, which to me is very surreal. you don't think something like that will happen until it does. it's just something you see on "dateline" specials. you don't see it happen in your own life. so your brain almost tells you that it's not happen, that she's just doesn't have a phone on her or something. >> that's when it donned on them, they could retrace heather's steps by way of their cell phone. she was still on their family plan. >> ended up going online and going to our cell phone provider, because you can look at the call records, and they pull up the information and they emailed it to us. >> they could see the most recent calls their daughter made and received. after her call to bri. heather dialed another number, several times.
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>> these are the early morning calls? >> and then i'm like, who's number is this? >> the worried parents suddenly found themselves playing detective in the very real case of their missing daughter. >> we googled the numbers trying to figure out what they went to. >> and they got a hit. the numbers heather dialed belonged to a man named sidney moore. they figured that had to be the ex-boyfriend bri had mentioned earlier. >> terry is like, i'm going to call, i'm just going call him i said terry you can't call somebody in the middle of the night. >> he did any way, on the other end a man answered. the way terry recalls it, the man was not happy. >> i said, you don't know me, but i'm heather's father, heather elvis. and before he could get the next word out, i'm getting cussed out, left and right. >> like cussing about what? >> nothing, just cussing. don't [ bleep ] call me. i don't know what you are talking about. i don't know this person. >> okay.
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that's a very odd reaction. >> that's what i thought. >> it's just cursing after cursing after cursing. >> the man who dated their daughter was hotly denying he'd ever heard of her. >> as the hours ticked by, they grew more anxious. they knew calling family and friends wasn't enough. they needed a new plan to find their missing daughter. coming up, two new on-camera clues. someone at a pay phone. it appears this is someone she knows. >> right, exactly. >> then someone in a pickup. >> you can see a dark pickup truck go by. soon after that her phone goes dead and nobody ever heard from her again. >> when "the landing" continues. n strength non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel... available over the counter. voltaren is powerful arthritis pain relief in a gel. voltaren. the joy of movement.
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look at this human trying you know what he will get? muscle pain. give up, the couch is calling. i say, it's me, the couch, i'm calling. pain says you can't. advil says you can. her parents couldn't get in touch with her. police couldn't find her. and then, all of myrtle beach was searching for her. heather elvis a missing person. >> volunteers keep looking for the 20-year-old. >> heather's desperate parents
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called on everyone to scour the area. they printed out flyers. >> there wasn't a store front in myrtle beach that didn't have one or two flyers and then they were in georgia, in tennessee and florida. >> they posted pleas online for information. they turned to the news media, local. >> is heather alive? >> my heart tells me that my daughter is alive. >> and national, including "dateline's" missing in america digital series. the elvises let our cameras into those early agonizing days. >> it's just that hole that we all in the family just feel. and bearing silent witness to their anguish was another daughter, morgan. >> i can probably count on one hand how many times i've seen my dad cry.
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and to see something like that makes your whole world fall apart. >> police quickly turn their attention to heather's new guy, the man who had been with her on a date that night. his alibi, that he dropped heather at her apartment, and returned home checked out. >> the date has been questioned. he has cooperated with law enforcement, and he is not listed as a person of interest or a suspect. >> but what about the old boyfriend, sidney? police wanted to know more about his relationship with heather. her best friend, bri, was just the person to tell them about it. >> he flirted with her just as much if not more than she flirted with him. it was mutual. >> bri said the two had met that spring at the tilted kilt. the pub where heather had been a hostess. sidney took care of maintenance there. >> you can tell he did care about heather when he would come in see her, the little things, the texts or the calls to check up on her at work.
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>> but there was a big problem. sidney was married. although heather didn't seem to mind. >> heather had it in her head that he was going to leave his wife. she swore up and down that he was going to leave. >> bri knew that would never happen. sure enough, in october 2013, sidney's wife got wind of the affair. he broke things off with heather. >> it hurt her. it hurt me to see her go through that. >> sidney told police he was home the night heather disappeared, but he did say heather called him. police went back to her phone records where they saw that call to sidney. they also found a mysterious number that had never called heather before. investigators traced it to a pay phone at a gas station. a security camera was pointed right at it. >> this random pay phone number called heather's phone, called it once. it lasted about four minutes.
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and then she actually tried to call that number back multiple times. >> marissa from nbc affiliate wmbf-tv covered the case. it appears that this is someone she knows. if she's having a conversation that reportedly lasted that long and she's repeatedly calling back. >> right, exactly. >> was it sidney? they pulled the security footage from the gas station. >> you can see somebody walk up to the pay phone and place that call to heather elvis. >> police wondered if that somebody was sidney. they asked him to come in for another round of questioning. if he had been home, what was he doing at a pay phone calling heather? he finally 'fessed up. >> sidney moore told them in an interview with police, i made that phone call to heather. >> investigators began to build a time line from heather's phone at 1:35 a.m., sidney called heather from the pay phone. nine minutes later at 1:44, heather calls her friend bri
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between 2:29 and 3:05, heather called the pay phone nine times, but no one answered. her phone did connect to sidney's cell phone at 3:17 a.m. for four minutes. then from 3:25 to 3:37, the phone was in her car on the way to peachtree landing. where was sidney at that time? police didn't know. that is until a woman who lived near the landing here told police her home had a security camera. perhaps she thought it captured something around the time of heather's disappearance. >> around 3:30 in the morning you can see a dark pickup truck go by her home. >> police believed it was sidney's truck. it was a huge break. police thought they could now place heather elvis in her car and sydney moorer in his truck, heading for peachtree landing at the same time. >> and soon after that her phone goes dead and nobody ever heard from her again.
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>> it was 3:42 in the morning. police now had a theory, somehow, heather had become a problem for sidney so he lured heather to the landing and killed her. and there was more. investigators believe sidney and heather weren't alone. someone else was at the landing. >> coming up -- >> they believe that she was the ultimate brains behind this whole plan. >> who was that mystery person at the landing? and why would anyone want to harm heather? >> the fire, the jealous explodes into utter rage. >> when "the landing" continues. introducing voltaren arthritis pain gel. the first full prescription strength non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel... available over the counter. voltaren is powerful arthritis pain relief in a gel. voltaren. the joy of movement.
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hello, i'm dara brown. here's what's happening. the u.s. surpassed 350,000 known coronavirus-related deaths on saturday from nbc data.
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it happens new york becomes the fourth state to report more than one million reported infections placing it behind california, florida, and texas. and the homes of senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi were vandalized this weekend. it comes days after congress failed to approve a measure to release relief checks to $2,000. now back to "dateline." why do you think there is such a fascination with heather's disace appearance? >> i think it's because nobody knows what happened to her. her body has yet to be found. she was well liked by a lot of people. and i think the fact that a 20-year-old can vanish so quickly into thin air and never be heard from again, it leaves a lot of people uneasy. >> terry elvis isn't exactly sure when he realized his daughter probably wasn't coming
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home. maybe it was the afternoon, long after heather disappeared when he was standing at his mailbox, talking to his best friend. >> one of my best friends came to the house. he looked at me and he said -- he said "i hope she didn't suffer." i can't get that thought out of my head. >> the not knowing made it worse. and then, stunning news. >> new developments tonight in the heather elvis case. >> two months after heather's disappearance, sydney moorer, heather's ex-boyfriend was arrested. and he didn't go to jail alone. he was joined by his wife, tammy moorer. both were charged with heather's kidnapping and murder. >> was this surprising to most people? tammy and sydney moorer are parents. they have three children. and now they're involved in this
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potential love triangle kidnapping potential murder? >> it's something that you see on a "dateline" episode. it's not a story line that match itself up with two people who have three children and are supposed to be happily married. >> in an interview with "dateline," tammy told us her marriage was a happy one. >> we were a normal family. it was about our children. our kids always came first before anything. >> they enjoyed cookouts and family vacations. tammy home schooled the kids and sydney worked at local restaurants. >> he fixed things in restaurants. he had learned about electricity. he learned about the tile work and all that. so practice made perfect. and my house was some of the practicing. so you'll see little in the house. >> tammy told us she found the affair upsetting, but she quickly got over it. >> i always loved sydney, but i hated the things he done and some of the reactions that came
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into the marriage. i didn't i had sydney. i hated the damage he caused to the children. i said please just be honest with me and tell me what's going on. at first she told me they were just friends. she said we're just friends. we just talk to one another. i said is that the truth? please tell me the truth. i'm not mad at you. and she said well, and then she told me the stuff they had done and what had happened. that's it. there was no cussing her out. i wasn't mean to her, nothing. >> prosecutors didn't buy tammy's story for one minute. but they had to drop the murder charges. after all, they didn't have a body. >> how'd that feel when they told you about that? >> like there is some tiny bit of justice in the world, for a brief moment and then all of a sudden it's like it never happened. >> but it wasn't over yet. it was only just beginning. both sidney and tammy still faced kidnapping charges. sidney was up first. his trial began in the summer of 2016.
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he pleaded not guilty. >> good morning, ladies and gentlemen of the jury. >> the prosecution's case was purely circumstantial. there was no physical evidence. but they argue those surveillance videos and phone records proved the last person to talk and meet up with heather was sidney. however, the jury deadlocked. >> a mistrial has been declared in this case against sidney moorer. >> the prosecution didn't give up. when it came time for tammy's trial, they came up with a bold new strategy. they argued that tammy had not only been sidney's partner in crime, she had been the mastermind, calling all the shots. >> they believe that she was the ultimate brains behind this whole plan. >> prosecutors said it all boiled down to this. far from being the understanding wife who had accepted sidney's affair, tammy had been consumed by it.
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>> a fire of jealousy was lit in the defendant. she was livid. she was angry. >> an anger that became more sinister when tammy heard a rumor around town, heather might be pregnant with sidney's baby. >> when this gets out and becomes common knowledge, the fire, the jealousy that is in tammy moorer explodes into utter rage. >> prosecutors said that rage wouldn't be satisfied until heather was out of the way. they said it was obvious how much the affair had upset tammy by the way she had treated sidney afterwards. >> she said she beat the hell out of him. >> this witness said sidney had a tattoo of tammy's name across his abdomen. his understanding is that tammy made sidney get it. >> the state's theory is that was terry's way of saying you're mine and you will never be anyone else's. >> the prosecutor said tammy had even chained sidney to the bed with handcuffs. >> i'm not speaking figuratively. literally chained him to the bed at night.
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>> that played back into the state's theory that tammy was the controlling one in this relationship. she was the one who wore the pants in this relationship. >> but as angry as she was at sidney for cheating, prosecutors said tammy was furious with heather. she'd sent her several texts. the prosecution said some of them were threats. >> heather was really afraid of tammy. >> she was, her friends played a prank on her one time at work, where they pretended to be tammy calling heather's phone, she was absolutely terrified. >> and the prosecution said if there was any doubt about the way tammy felt, just look at this nasty facebook post tammy had written after heather disappeared. calling her a psycho whore. >> she could have said, oh, i'm so sorry this girl's missing and i hope you found her and left it alone. no, she goes on the attack. >> tammy is the one with the motive. she is the hunter.
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>> and it was a hunt. the prosecution said the investigator told the jury he used cell phone data to track the moorers' movements. in the days before the disappearance, they showed up near heather's workplace. some of the bars she liked, even her home. the prosecution suggested the couple was stalking her. then in the early hours of december 18th, 2013, with heather's roommate out of town, the prosecutor said the couple struck. it began here. the prosecutor showed the jury surveillance video of sidney walking into a walmart and purchasing a pregnancy test for heather. >> as soon as they leave for walmart, they go and call her. why? because the test is for her. >> the prosecution's theory is sidney had called healther to come and get the test, take it and meet up later at the landing. they said what she didn't know was that tammy would be there, too. >> there is no doubt sidney is
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the bait in this hunt. he's the bait. >> prosecutors admitted they couldn't say what happened to heather at the landing but they asked the jury to use their common sense. an investigator showed the jury a photo of several items found on the moore's property. >> there is a spent shotgun shell casing. there is a bag of concrete mix here. and off to the side up here is some type of a bottle of a cleaning solution. >> the prosecution suggested it was nothing less than a kidnapping kit. what the moorers might have needed to kill heather and dispose of her body. >> how hard was it for you being in that courtroom every day, hearing these details, having to see tammy? >> most days when i woke up i didn't want to come to the trial. but i went because when you see your parents hurting, you wish that you could take all the their pain away. and something like this, it's an
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impossible task for me to do. but you can do small things. you can sit with them and you can hold their hands when they need it. >> after seven days of testimony, the prosecution rested. and the defense announced tammy was going to testify in her defense. as hard as it might be to listen to her, that was something morgan didn't want to miss. coming up -- >> did you kidnap heather elvis? >> no, i did not. >> do you know who kidnapped her? >> i do not. >> tammy moore on the stand and on the offensive. >> i want people to know the truth, and i too want heather found. >> tammy was just indignant. >> there's answers to this mystery and they refuse to solve it. >> when "dateline" continues.
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tammy moorer said her kids should have been tackling homework and hanging with friends. instead, they were sitting in a courtroom, watching her be accused of a terrible crime. >> tammy is the one with the motive. she is the hunter. >> i just want to get home to my children and take care of them. >> tammy believes she was being victimized bay relentless prosecutor. >> none of this should have ever happened. the state should be looking to see what really happened to heather. heather is not getting justice by putting an innocent person in jail. she never will. there is answers to these mystery, and they refuse to solve it. >> i think from the beginning that tammy was just indignant that she was even charged with this. >> greg mccallum was tammy's defense attorney. >> they cannot prove to you that anybody named moorer ever went
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to the boat landing at the end of peachtree road. >> the defense told the jury to look at the evidence or lack of it, starting with heather's car. >> the vehicle did not indicate that anything occurred inside of the vehicle. >> the police officer who processed heather's car testified he couldn't find any evidence of a struggle. investigators found no trace of a crime inside the moorers' house or truck either. speaking or their truck, the defense said they couldn't tell whether it was actually sidney and tammy's truck caught on camera headed towards peachtree landing. >> you have low image, low resolution surveillance video. our position is that you absolutely cannot draw any conclusion beyond the fact that may be a certain make and model. >> this video did not pass the smell test to you? >> this video didn't even give off an odor. >> another piece of flawed evidence, according to the defense? was the cell phone data that seemed to suggest tammy and sidney had been stalking heather. >> i'd say you could compare
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their phone activity to anybody else's who lived and worked in the area. those are where the nightclubs are. there are restaurants there. it would appear i were stalking her as well, if you look at where my phone went. >> the defense said what the jury really needed to understand was a simple fact. no piece of evidence put tammy at the landing. if anything, her alibi placed her miles away. >> did tammy's children stay in the house there with you or your mother? >> yes. >> tammy's sister ashley told the court she was babysitting tammy's kids on the night of december 17th, 2013. she said tammy and sidney went out together in the hours leading up to heather's disappearance. but ashley remembered when her sister came home. >> she texted me that night saying she was home. >> do you know what time it was? >> it was beginning of 3:00 in the morning, i believe it was 3:10. >> for the defense, it was a
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time stamp, proving tammy was home well before heather went missing. >> that wasn't all he said, both sidney and tammy's phones were on an pinging from their house, not from the landing when heather was there. it was all so hard for morgan to listen to. some days she wished she hadn't come to court. but that all changed during a crucial moment in the trial. >> when i found out that tammy was going to testify, i really wanted to be there. because i do look like heather. >> hmm. >> and she ran into me in the hallway and it was the first time she had ever really made eye contact and been up close and personal with me and i could hear her audibly gasp. >> when tammy took the stand, she seemed confident, ready to tell her story. she told the jury she wasn't a ruthless kidnapper. she was a mom. >> my youngest is on the far left over there. >> and she was a wife who found out her husband was cheating on her.
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initially tammy said she texted the other woman's phone number to find out who she was. >> the messages were never directed towards heather elvis. they were directed toward the mystery person. i wanted to know who it was. >> at the end of the day, she says the only reason she was angry with sidney is he wasn't forthcoming about his affair. in their marriage, they had an arrangement. >> i think it's a good idea to have an open marriage for a little bit and see if we're meant to be together. the only thing is i want you to be honest with me. sidney wasn't honest with me. that's why i got angry with sid sidney. >> she said when heather went missing, they were working on their marriage. even hoping to get pregnant. that test sidney bought at walmart was for her, not heather. also, she denied she made sidney get a tattoo as punishment. she said he had gotten it long before he met heather and a answer about the handcuffs, too. >> did you ever handcuff him to the bed and leave with the keys?
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so he couldn't get loose? >> no, i have not. sidney is a strong man. he can get out of anything. >> tammy had her own explanation for that so-called kidnapping kit. sidney needed the concrete for work. the cleaning fluid was for their dirty camper, and the shotgun shell, probably just a spent casing from a turkey hunt. >> did you kidnap heather elvis? >> no, i did not. >> do you know who kidnapped her? >> i do not. >> are you glad that you are able to tell people what happened, what you did do and didn't do? >> i want people to know the truth and i too want heather found. >> tammy has said that she wants to find heather. she actually liked heather, she didn't do this. and yet she goes on facebook calling her a psycho whore. which is it? >> you know, i can't really you know explain everything that tammy said or felt.
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i think it was a huge mistake to call her names and do that sort of thing. >> he said if tammy had kidnapped heather, why would she be writing nasty facebook posts about her? >> if you are really that gifted in terms of carrying out the perfect crime, i think all these things are completely inconsistent. >> unless you're a loose cannon. >> exactly. but if you're a loose cannon and you haarm somebody, you kill somebody, you kidnap somebody, it's completely consistent that she would do it in a violent way, in a way that would leave a marcia clark and leave evidence. and we don't have that here. >> the elvises listened to tammy's testimony about heather with disgust. >> she deserves to be found. >> it was so offensive to hear her name come out of that woman's mouth. while she was sitting. >> giving testimony. every time she said that heather
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elvis this, and heather elvis that. i want her found. >> as her paurnttients. >> that must be excruciating to hear that. >> saying she was after advocate for heather? i was so mad. >> you sat there quietly in that courtroom. you just want to dish. >> scream. it was infuriating some of the things she said. >> the trial was far from over. it was the prosecutor's turn to question tammy and the prosecutor wasn't going to pull any punches. coming up, fireworks in the courtroom. >> this is a story about jealousy and deceit. and this story has within around for a long, long time. >> they don't have one fiber, one tear drop, one piece of a shoe lace. >> high stakes in the jury room. >> the jury has reached a verdict.
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>> when tammy moorer took the stand in her own defense, she sailed through her direct testimony. but then came the prosecutor's turn. >> do you know who i am? >> i do. >> who i am? >> nancy. you've made my life miserable. >> but nancy wifesay was just getting started. the prosecutor's mission? to show the jury that tammy was hardly the tolerant wife she claimed to be. when it came to heather elvis, the prosecutor argued tammy was angry, vengeful and tammy's text to heather proved it. >> you texted her, you can tell me who you are right now or i will find out another way, that way won't have a great turnout for you. >> yes. >> and at the time how old were you?
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>> i think i was 41 or 42. i'm not sure. >> okay. so do you know now when you sent her that text she was a 20-year-old girl? >> i know now, i didn't know then. >> the prosecutor suggested tammy behaved like a stalker. >> you said on 11/11, i think the bitch is -- isn't that what you said? >> if it's on there. >> here's my question to you how many times had you gone up there and looked her to believe that she was then -- it leaves the impression? >> never. >> never? >> never. >> what makes you think the bitch is high. >> i was being a jerk at the time i guess, nancy, that's all i can say. >> have we ever met outside this courtroom? >> i don't think so. >> okay. i didn't know when we got on a first name basis. >> after ten days and more than 40 witnesses, each side wrapped up.
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>> this is a story about jealousy and deceit and this story has been around for a long, long time. >> the prosecution driving home its case that tammy had motive to kidnap heather elvis. >> they don't have one fiber, one tear drop, one piece of salt, one piece of shoe lace at the boat landing. >> the defense arguing there was not a scrap of evidence to prove it. what would the jury do? >> ladies and gentlemen, i understand that the jury has reached a verdict. >> it took jurors less than four hours to reach a verdict. >> we the jury find the defendant tammy moore, guilty of kidnapping. >> guilty of kidnapping and conspiracy to kidnap. two counts. in court, tammy took it stoically. later, she was emotional. >> i told my kids if a verdict
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came in, i was going away. because i knew that's what it would be. >> the elvises got the verdict they wanted, but it wasn't going to bring heather back. >> if i opened my eyes and my daughter had been standing in front of me and heather was there, i wouldn't have cared what they did with anything or anybody after that point. but that's -- it didn't do that. it department change anything. people say it didn't change the big picture. it didn't change the little picture. >> you expect it to feel good to be a victory, it doesn't feel like that at all. >> heather's sister morgan looked across to the moorers. >> the only thing i saw was another family getting torn apart. >> those children sitting behind their mom. >> yeah. i have lived firsthand a family getting torn apart. i wouldn't wish it on anybody.
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>> tammy moorer was sentenced to 30 years. she is appealing. her husband sidney was jailed in 2017, convicted of obstruction of justice for lying to police during the investigation. the state wasn't done with sidney moorer. in september, 2019, prosecutorress tried him on those kidnapping charges. this time he was convicted and, like tammy, received 30-year term. as for debbie and terry, they're in the same place they have been since the day their daughter went missing. living with the hope that one day they'll get answers about what happened to heather. the young woman who had so many years ahead of her. >> what would you say to >> heather. >> if i could talk to her right now? >> if that little sliver of hope is still out there? >> i'm going to bring you home, somehow, some way, i'm bringing you home. >> we've said it every time. we're not giving up. we're never going to give up. >> it doesn't matter what it takes. >> everything else takes a back seat. it really does. life does not go on. people around you, life goes on.
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but you're still stuck. you are holding on to a hope. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." it was a small new year's eve party. we took off and then shortly after we saw the police car. my gut was telling my feet to turn back to that house. this can't be happening. >> when the party ended, the mystery began. >> it was just crazy. i didn't understand what was happening and why. >> his wife, the hostess, had an seemed fine all night. then -- >> help me, please! please help me!

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