tv All In With Chris Hayes MSNBC March 20, 2014 12:00am-1:01am PDT
it's 3:00 p.m. in australia near perth. tony abbott says objects possibly related to the missing airline plane has been malaysia airlines plane have been spotted in the south indian ocean. he has called this information new and credible and obviously this could be the break through that investigators have been looking for. however, the prime minister did caution that locating the objects will be extremely difficult. one of the concerns they have is that they have poor visibility and obviously that will always hamper a search and recovery effort. and also, there have been supposed sightings before including, you'll remember, an oil slick that turned out to be unrelated to the case. there was no jet fuel in it. he has spoken. the australian official to his malaysian counterpart. and we are getting word also that some family members who obviously have been going
through a harrowing experience for the last 12 plus days are getting this information now first delivered about four hours ago. joining us, kerry sanders, i think it is worth up and resetting if we can, kerry, so i think it was what? about 48 hours ago that the ntsb came one this sort of narrowed search area based in part on fuel exhaustion points. if this plane had been flying and they were using their best information, this is the area it could have gone down. is that right? >> that's exactly right. that's why the australian military began focusing its attention in with the satellites to look at this area where they found the suspect debris. >> they are the ones helping the
command the actual movement of the aircraft that the u.s. has. the most important one is the p-8 being operated out of perth. i'm on hold now with the lieutenant who is checking to see what the status is. my last note from commander marks would suggest that it is over the target area right now getting some imagery. the commander is not available right now. the lieutenant is checking. he is in a meeting which we can well understand why he would be in a meeting. if it is over the area, they're getting information back from that p-8 in real-time. as well as the folks on board looking at what they can see down there. it has a spread before 10,000 square miles. so it just needs to get into the general area to begin getting some imagery as it gets closer and closer to the target zone.
we're going to let him take that phone call. he will get very latest information. let me bring in the ceo of aero consulting experts. let me get your take from your perspective as a former pilot about these discoveries over the last several hours. >> chris, i too would like to caution everyone not to get their hopes up. because we've gone that way before. however, this scenario, it makes more sense and it is promising because some of us who had initially talked about an on board fire, it works right into this scenario. because it coincides with that left turn.
090 degrees to the course going basically westerly. if this aircraft had to descend due to fire or decompression. so i'm somewhat cautiously optimist optimistic. >> if that was the scenario, we don't want to get too far into the realm of speculation. we don't know first of all that this is even two pieces of the aircraft. but in that scenario, why would there not have been a mayday call? >> in case of the on board fire, if it is a very rapid propagating fire, sometimes it is possible that all the radio equipment, electronic equipment, because they would be close to this fire source would be tripped off by their protection circuits or perhaps ultimately burned out.
this might be a good explanation why there was no radio calls or transponders and satellite communication. other communication aids and data links dropping off. that would be the first equipment. that would drop off in this case. and then it would perhaps, crew would be incapacitated during the fire because of the smoke or fire. >> thank you very much. ross aimer, former united pilot. let's go back to kerry sanders who has been on the phone with officials from the uss kidd. >> i'm just off the phone. he tells me the p-8 aircraft that has this advanced technology is on station. that means that the aircraft is over the target area right now looking for what they believe is perhaps some debris from flight
370. the crew is not sending back real-time data but they do report on voice communications that they have seen nothing that supports what the australian military said was suspect debris floating on the water. that doesn't mean that it is not there. it just means that so far, the p-8 in its search has been unable to find anything that reflects what those satellite photographs suggested. of course, that would be a suggestion of some sort of debris that may be from this boeing 777. >> let me ask some very basic questions, kerry. the first thing that come to mind, if this was skin which bob hager again, 25 years of reporting said that is probably the most likely object that would be found floating of that size. i mean, it seems to me it is either there or it's not after 12 days of being on the ocean. it is not as if even at 25 knots, it would go into a completely different area or
suddenly sink. >> that is correct. if it has been on the surface, it is likely going to stay there for some more time. but remember, this aircraft is with technology, it is incredibly advanced. if it is there, they will see it. they just have to continue searching for it. i think the most important thing is that to the updated moment that we're speaking right now, they have not confirm what it is that the satellite suggested was there. >> again, when we talk about this kind of technology. excuse me one second. they would be able to get coordinates, would they not? and then plug into their computer models again the wind and the current and have a fairly defined area based on what the australians said. the satellite image. >> absolutely.
the satellite image shows debris. it is not as if it is a photograph and somebody is pointing at it. they know where it is. so they know, gps which we're all familiar with. we use in it our cars. they have a general idea of gps where this is floating. in addition to that, the aircraft can see 10,000 square mails. so it is flying on station. which means it is in the area right now. and they have yet to find what it is that those satellite images suggested was there. >> what could be an explanation for that? you know, the disconnect. >> yes. because remember, the satellite image as high definition as it is, is not the same as the quality of the p-8 aircraft. there are all sorts of false suggestions that a satellite photograph can bring. i still maintain that i believe that the australian military would not have announced this suspect debris if they didn't have a high degree of
confidence. but that means that so far there's not that redundant confirmation of something floating there. and that's what the u.s. military is doing. they're going to be, would have the ability, i did not get the flight times. they have the ability to stay in the area for four hours. so they will continue to do their sweeps in the area to find out whether indeed they are confirming what the satellite imagery suggests. so far they cannot do that. >> i'm sorry. so if they can stay in the air for four hours over that target area, how long have they been there so far do we know? >> i don't know what time they took off. i know that they can stay in the air for four hours. remember the p-3s that we're familiar work they have propellors that go slower. this is a jet. it can go faster so it got to the area quicker. it can fly in the area for about four hours. and then it has to return. quite frankly, based on the technology that's used, i'm not sure the entire four hours will be needed.
if they know where they're looking and they have the technology in full play here, i suspect that they're going to find something soon. if they're up there for four hours, it means they find nothing. >> so again, this is an anti-submarine plane. do you know anything about who is on board and the specific kinds of equipment that they're using? >> well, the sort of equipment they're using is perhaps the most advanced radar equipment that exists. and it can see day or night, it can see between the waves that go, in this case we have nine foot waves. so it can see up and down in those. it has additional equipment. some of it is quite frankly classified equipment for obvious reasons. the aircraft is primarily designed as an anti-submarine aircraft to sort of locate the movements of submarines that might be considered enemy submarines. so it is the most advanced. i think it was a $35 million
plane if i remember correctly with the most advanced technology available. so if it is there, they're going to see it. let me take you back to the earlier searches so you get an idea of how successful this equipment is. when they were in the bay of bengal between the p-3 and the p-8 they picked up more than 400 pieces of debris floating out there in the ocean that they examined. pieces of container ship. it has been very effective in locating debris and very effective in eliminating what they see that has nothing to do with an aircraft. so i believe that we can expect that this technology will continue to perform down in the southwestern portion off perth, australia, in the southern
indian ocean. >> and let me ask you finally, all these other assets are on their way. we talked about a cargo ship, a nonmilitary vessel which is likely to be the first on scene. we know we have the other air assets that are coming from new zealand, from australia in addition to the united states. essentially these wouldn't be necessary. they become redundant if as you say, after four hours and the kind of technology that we have, they can't find anything. >> exactly. it doesn't mean that they won't continue to look though because of the expectation that something will be there. there is one other aircraft heading there and that's a hercules c-130 and it is headed there because once there is some sort of confirmation, they will then drop down markers that provide dye but also provide a signal so that this debris when and if it's found there will not be lost by sea state, something sinking so they can at least
mark the location of where they have it. >> kerry sanders who will stand by for us. joining me now, anchor and managing editor of "nbc nightly news," brian williams. good morning to you. and give us a sense of what you know of what exactly they're going to be for. >> in that sense, thank you for having me. i want to piggy back on the words of bob hague here brought up the possibility that what we would see first would be skin of this aluminum alloy aircraft. that's largely because it is backed by insulation. in all cases. remember, every engineer at boeing and most of the so-called heavy pilots, the type of wide body we're talking about, we'll know every surface on that aircraft by sight as soon as we get a good visual, and let's
hope that is the outcome here for this 12, now 13-day ordeal. chris, as you've been very cautious to point out throughout, this story is about the 239 souls on board. and we can only now of course fear the worst. if this location pans out, if this flight scenario in its last hours pans out, and this went into the water. so many things though can come off and be sighted. portions of wings, elevators, stabilizers, flaps, not all of them floatables. and remember the heaviest single things on a 777 are the two massive engines. i believe these on this particular aircraft are rolls royce general electric trick did the launch engine for this aircraft.
large enough to comfortably stand a family of five in the circular engine intake. these are massive power plants. many with composite wings. many of them first of their kind designs. but they are heavy. and in a catastrophic crash of an airliner this big, those engines catch themselves up full of water and then often cause a second catastrophic event. the separation of the wings from the rest of the fuselage. but there are a number of things. and if and when we get good eyes on this sight and it is a hindrance, what we're hearing about visibility and what we can see in some of the video you've been airing. if and when we get good eyes on this, if any pieces are in indeed floating, they will be identifiable by people from here to seattle, washington at boeing
headquarters and frankly, all over the world. the thousands of people who have direct tactile daily working knowledge of this heretofour hugely dependable, very successful, very safe aircraft. >> and to go back to brian, what you were talking about and obviously it is about the 239 people on board. and we've been getting word of their families who have been gathered at that beijing hotel they have used as a help center. they were able to watch the original briefing some four hours ago. that first announced this was happening. we live in such an immediate world with the technology that we have, the way news is delivered. what a difficult set of decisions it always has to be for the folks who are running this investigation. because we've seen at least three times before. where hopes were raised.
things were seen in the ocean. what they thought was debris. what they thought was perhaps jet fuel that turned out not to be jet fuel. and they're trying to keep everyone posted. the families to the people all around the world who have been absolutely riveted to this story. but at the same time, you know that in situations like this, it is probably best to have cautious optimism at best. >> absolutely. this got so much attention because it was the kind of first news of its kind since the dry well we all chased last week, the chinese satellite photos showing allegedly large sections of the aircraft since discredited. but i think what made this different, of course, was the government official. the specificity of some of the wording of what came out of australia tonight. all of this continues to be in
one of the toughest parts of our globe to get to. an area of big, big seas that all look alike from either fixed wing or helicopter or satellites. the c-130 that kerry mentioned as it flies over. let's say we have an identified sight. it can mark the spot with dye. kit show flaeres. they can launch rescue rafts and buoys. all of it will be rescuer orange because of all that will follow by air and by sea at double time to try to get out here. i guess what we're all saying, ngt ghoulish business, any time an airliner goes down, it is hardly ever not ghoulish.
we're hoping that this is it for some finality. for these parents as we saw in the news reels out of kuala lumpur today. the chinese parents. they've reached the end. they have reached the end of their workable sanity as any of us would have, 12 days after losing a loved one on that flight. so that's why i think so many hopes are riding on this snippet of information tonight. >> nbc's brian williams, obviously a very difficult situation for those families. brian, thank you. we can do a little update on this situation that was outside of that beijing hotel. you can just imagine the disbelief that greeted those families when they heard this news. that they believed holding out hope, wasett possible that their family members could still be alive. to hear the information that
there was pieces of debris, that could be part of the aircraft. and at least one of the fathers whose son was on that flight said he just didn't believe the news. he refused to believe anything that officials had said because they had been misled in the past. and so at least at this point no, closure for them and no closure for any of us. but the big news is that u.s. navy p-8, this anti-submarine hunting plane that is so technologically advanced is over the immediate area. right now, they're not seeing any signs of the debris that you saw in these new satellite images that we've been showing you. two pieces of debris. one almost 80 feet in width. matt taylor is asia pacific reporter for cnbc. he is in sydney, australia, where this announcement was first made and i think it is worth going back and letting
folks know what we know, what was announced by australian officials earlier. >> right, chris. well, we first got word out of this from our prime minister tony abbott who is speaking in parliament about four hours ago on the east coast of australia where he said that authorities had uncovered these two objects. as you point out, we have in the last few minutes seen those satellite images. he said the information was new and credible and that resources would be deployed to that part of the indian ocean to take a closer look. now, you might recall that earlier this week the malaysian authorities requested australia take over that search route in the southern indian ocean. because remember, there are those two corridors that they were looking at. the north one that stretched north of thailand and up toward kazakhstan and the southern one that stretched down by the west coast of australia. and deep into the southern
indian ocean. so the australian authorities had been moving aircraft and resources into that particular part of the ocean which is in the australian search and rescue zone. we should point out as well. officials from australia's maritime and safety authority then held a media briefing and released some comments after those initial remarks saying that the object that were seen on the satellite imagery, were indistinct. but the credible signings and redeploying to that part of the ocean as you point out. four aircraft in total likely will be there by this point in time. they say that one of the pieces of did debris or one of the objects was 24 meeters in size or as you say, close to 80 feet. throws images that the authorities have just released. they've been date stamped the 16th of march as well. so it appears the satellite
images were captured some four days ago so that may also make trying to locate these objects difficult with the tidal movement in the ocean. 2,500 kilometers south southwest of perth about, 1,500 mails. four hours flying time from mainland australia. >> thank you. cnbc's matt taylor. we'll continue to follow this news and have more on these new satellite images after a short break. music lesson. [ bell rings ] ♪ music lesson? whoo! [ bell rings ] [ female announcer ] by their second kid, every mom is an expert and more likely to choose luvs than first time moms. live, learn, and get luvs. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last,
sleep train's big gift event is ending soon. ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ its now 25 minutes after 3:00 in the east coast and 25 minutes after 3:00 p.m. in australia. australia releasing in the last couple of hours brand new satellite images. here's what they found. two objects floating in the southern part of the indian ocean and one official describing the images as indistinct but credible enough that they called a news
conference and said that they believe they may have a lead on this missing plane. they don't know for sure that it is debris from the plane but a credible enough lead to send four planes and some ships into that area to check it out. as we have been reporting over the last hour or so, a u.s. navy p-8 is over the area right now. this is a highly sophisticated craft. an anti-submarine hunting plane with a jet engine that could dip down to take some high resolution imaging that could be shipped back. what you don't see obviously in the satellite images that we have right now, they're not clear enough or close enough to give us any real markings. the most likely explanation if it is part of the plane is that it would be skin from the plane. that doesn't tell us what happened. but it gives as you general area. again, as we look in this vast swath of the southern indian ocean, that would be an
incredible clue after 12 days of not knowing what happened to this plane. joining us from washington, nbc's kerry sanders who just a short time ago was on the phone with officials from the uss kid who are in the middle of all of this. and what's the latest you can tell us? >> well, lieutenant david levy who is on board just confirm to me that the p-8 flying over the area has not been able to confirm what those satellite images show. it will remain on station, continuing to search, to see if they can get some sort of confirmation to these images that were provided by a satellite. if you look at the images from the satellite, there is a date there in the upper left-hand corner. march 16th. we're talking about an image that is three and a half days old for what the p-8 is searching for. so things do change over time.
but again, the australian military examined this satellite image and they believe in both cases there is enough to suggest there could be, they were very cautious. they said it could be something from the wreckage of the plane. now what i have here is i've got a map that i can sort of take you through as we look at it on this map. the reason i want to show you this map as we look at i, you see at the center of the picture here the satellite. and so this distance of everyone of these lines is an equal distance. and that is why it began to be such a huge area to search for this plane. because on board the aircraft, there is the system, sort of a background passive system that is providing data out to the satellite as it is flying. the experts said it may not be
design for this but it was giving bursts. even though there was no data. and we can time those bursts and we can get a measurement. that's the measurement that they came up with. and that's why they drew this arc. this semicircle of where the plane may have gone. let me take you back to the map. we'll take out those arcs and now let me take you down here. so the ntsb initially, that's the national transportation safety board, initially had an area off australia that was huge. 370,000 square miles. and the plan was that would take at least six weeks to search. but in the last 24 hours, they came up with a smaller area. right here. and that smaller area that they've come up with is about 117,000 square miles. the target area of what they discovered from the satellite image is south of that. that's where i put the little x.
that's the area where the p-8 and two aircraft which are called p-3, a propellor planes, they have that anti-submarine warfare technology on board. one from the new zealand and the other from the australian navies that are now headed to the area. so there will be redundancy to see if there is any feedback to confirm what those satellite images have suggested will. >> and i want to make sure we help people understand this. when you look at that satellite image and you see the in the upper left-hand corner that says the 16th of march, about four days ago. we're obviously now on the 20th here in the united states. and in australia as well, we're 12 hours different. but they would have made those adjustments. they would know what the currents are, what the winds are. they would have made those
adjustments to say where that piece of debris would likely be now, right? >> not only that. but remember the sophisticated nature of this equipment is that it can see 10,000 square miles. there is no way in four days any debris has traveled 10,000 square miles no matter how strong winds are. and we believe the winds are 25 knotts and the sea stayed about the nine feet. we got that report from a cargo investigate that he will reported back what the sea state was. so we have a general idea of what the weather is like there. >> when you were talking to lieutenant david levy, did he give you an indication, we have said that they could possibly fly in that area for about four hours. but to really get a sense of the area works they stay the entire four hours just to be sure? or in a much shorter period of time given again the sophistication of that instrumentation, would they rule
out this was part of a plane. at least in that immediate area? >> just because of the hope that finally there may be a piece of information that can answer this mystery, if they tone see anything, they will stay on station. they will stay until they have to refuel because this is the first real significant seemingly concrete, i guess is the wrong word. but seemingly hopeful evidence that we can locate where the aircraft may have gone down. so they will remain in the area and continue to search and don't forget, they have the ability to share the data back and forth with the p-3 during the area so they can discuss what they're seeing. in the event that one of, say, the aircraft from australia sees something, the p-8 can go back and hone in on that area and examine it. >> kerry sanders, i know you'll be standing by.
i want to go to the former airline captain with 25 years flying experience. we were talking earlier to brian williams who made the point that anyone who is familiar with aircraft, certainly anyone who has flown. if you're able to get any kind of images, you would immediately be able to recognize with that kind of clarity that they would get off the p-8 as opposed to the satellite images. if this is or is not part of a plan. >> i think the likelihood, once the quality of images will be made available, they will say is it part of a fuselage? part of a wing? we're talking about pretty large pieces. the potential parts of the plane are somewhat limited to that. so they'll identify it pretty quickly. >> when you say consistent, what kinds of things would they be
seeing? >> the construction, the size, the shape, if it is part of a fuselage. if it is part of the wings there will be specific shape that winds are. those are the kinds of thing they'll be for. every part of the maybe is well known. they're given station numbers and the experts can figure out a known station number and then figure out if it is part of the plane or not. >> do you have a sense right now? give me your sense of where we are in this search and what this could mean. >> well, i think we're right where you kind of expect to be in something as unprecedented as what we have faced with malaysian 370. which that is a methodical and continuing gathering of data. and then based on that evidence. the australians and i commend
them for this, they were straightforward. they brought this information out. and immediately dispatched assets to get additional and more highly detailed information. that's where we are right now. >> captain, thank you very much for your insights. we appreciate it. we are following this news. possible debris of malaysian air flight 370 found off the coast of perth, australia.
one official described them as indistinct. they don't know if it is debris from the plane but credible enough for australia to send four planes and some ships to the area to check it out. the area we're talking about, about 1,500 miles off the coast of australia in the southern indian ocean. and the best possibility right now of determining whether or not this could be part of that missing plane is that u.s. navy p-8 that is right over this area. and you can see the search area. you just saw it on the map before. that they could get down and take some high resolution imaging. but they are not finding with their sophisticated equipment the kinds of things that australia saw on this picture. again that was dated on the 16th of march. we're now into the 20th of march. joining me now, air safety investigator anthony burkhouse. in the college of aviation, let me get your thoughts on where we are right now.
>> we're trying to piece together what this evidence possibly means. this could be the beginning of slowly piecing this puzzle back together so we can hopefully figure out what happened. >> what kinds of thing are you looking for in the next couple hours? >> well, as investigators we have to deal in physical evidence. if this is debris from flight 370, this would be the first piece of physical evidence that we have. actually something an investigator can put their hands on and try to piece it back together. >> give us a sense, and we know this is the largest aviation investigation. the largest aviation search in history. but what are the different things happening now? we've been focusing largely on this navy p-8. because obviously they're over this area where we believe these
satellite images would lead us to search. what else is going on simultaneously here? >> well, first of all you're going to use the aircraft to try to figure out the exact search area you're looking for. and then you'll have craft on the water that will eventually make it to the scene. and hopefully actually pluck the debris from the water so they can start identifying it. >> one of the things that we know is that they can obviously know where the ships are on the water. that there is a cargo ship. has the nonmilitary ship. it will be days before they can position ships in that area. but one of the things they would want to do would just be able to get eyes on it. to see if they can see from the water what they have not been able to find from the air with this p-8. just figure out what this is if it is anything. >> yes.
that's correct. that may lead to something like that from an aircraft to mark the hoe indication of the wreckage so it can be tracked down later. whatever it is, once we've identified it, we don't want to lose track of it and we want to get access to it as quickly as possible. >> thank you very much. we appreciate your insights on this. we want to give you more information that is coming to us out of kuala lumpur. because no one has a greater interest than this than the families of the 2 tulane people on board that flight. and we have seen over the last 24 hours or so. there you're seeing them here. surrounded by all the cameras. the great international interest in this. the families who have just absolutely been devastated. we saw one woman who had to be taken out of the area. she had essentially set up her own news conference. and there she is, absolutely despondent. we have learned from a malaysian
airlines employee and told nbc news that at this hotel where the families of the chinese passengers have been staying, they have set up what is essentially a makeshift medical center. we know that the families of the missing have been able to watch together on television. this australian news conference. and you can just imagine after 12 plus days of waiting, and still, holding out hope that somehow their family members could still be alive. you want to know what happened, the devastation of believing there may have been a crash, let's go back to that news conference from earlier today and the announcement about this finding. >> you might recall on the slide here, the two yellow arrows pointing to analysis done by the united states national transportation safety board.
about the movements of the aircraft. that has focused searching and we have now seen satellite imagery of a number objects there. i don't want to draw too much attention to that. this is a lead. it is probably the best lead we have right now. we need to get there. find them, see them, assess them to know whether it is really meaningful or not. >> to that point, to get there, we've been talking about this p-8 right over that area. let's go back to kerry sanders who has been in touch in real-time with the folks on the uss kidd. you were just talking to them. >> whatever reports that may be out there. i've gotten the most immediate information from david levy who is getting the information directly, as the military says, it is over the area. according to the most recent reports, they're getting radar
reflections but not any indication of any debris in the area that is the target area to search for. again, an area that is targeted by the satellite images. what does that mean. >> the normal things they get off the surface of the ocean. they're not seeing anything so far that tells them there is debris on the surface. >> what you were talking about before, this is the kind of equipment on board this p-8 that can really look at a very wide range. it is not as if they're focusing, targeting down a very small area that we might be able to see with our eyes. this has tremendous range. >> exactly. it is 10,000 square miles. to tell you how successful it has been so far, when it was over the bay of bengal, it picked up more than 400 images over the water and was able to identify and then rule out that
those images had anything to do with did he abreu from an air crash. >> would this equipment, we've talked about the situation on the ground. the visibility was poor and they warned early on this could hamper the ability to find anything. how much impact could that be having on the equipment on the p-8? >> really zero. this is a piece of equipment designed for working in all weather conditions. its primary pitch is to search for submarines. it is used in anti-sub mash warfare. weather could not be an issue. yes, there is some moving boo the area. it is about nine foot swells, the winds are 25 knots, we're told. none of that should impact what this aircraft can see as it is flying in the area.
>> they have lots of fronts on which they're moving, they would reposition some of the financial satellites. i am assuming they can reposition the satellite all they want but they could not get an image that would be anywhere near what the. 8 can get? >> absolutely correct. the p-8 will kael tell the story. when it finds something or when it finds nothing. that could be the story here. i tell you what. it is quite a step forward for the australian military to step in and raise the hopes that something has been will he indicated here. you'll notice in the upper left-hand corner that the sat lig corner. they were taken march 16th. so they have this information. they've been studying it and analyzing it before they come out publicly and say we think we may have found something. >> is it likely that they've had
eyes on this for three or four days and they've been studying it that long? >> tuck process of how it goes. it was taken on the 16th and then it tlugs could not stand reviews. it is highly possible that on the 16th or 17, the first set of eyes laid on it and it has taken that long to analyze it and moving the aircraft in the area to confirm it. there are a lot of false leads that have taken place here. you know, there is a crowd sourcing thing going on. people have private data where they've been looking into the bengal ocean. it is such a worldwide effort. it has cracked the computers several times where people click on what they think it may be an image of something that is suspect. how crowd sourcing is, you look at an image.
if you see something, you click on it. if more people see it, thousands of clicks, then it rise to the top and somebody said, we'd better examine that. so you have people who are examining it but it doesn't go from the an it will. they have to look it a, consider it, weigh it against other things and it goes through a process. we know that by at i, the image was taken on the 16th. >> all right. kerry sanders. again who has been getting us the best real-time information in touch with the uss kidd. we'll take a break and be back with more as we follow our breaking news. possible debris of malaysia air flight 370. we'll keep you posted in real-time. we are in touch with that p-8
minutes ago. >> i don't want to draw too much it from. it is a lead. probably the best lead we have right now. we need to get there. see them, assess them to know whether it is really meaningful or not. >> so there are a couple of things i wanted to point out as the clock is ticking to find out whether or not this may indeed be part of the plane. >> if they keep to their schedule, and the last we heard was they were planning to. in about 90 minutes, 98 minutes to be exact. 5:50 p.m. there. they are doing a daily news conference and the last we heard was they would have this. there's possibly more information on this. there is a merry channel ship on the way to the area that officials at least when they
briefed a little while ago suggest it could be there within two hours. and they obviously would love to get eyes on it. but the best hope is this p-8 plane that kerry sanders has been following from washington, d.c. talking with u.s. military officials. and i understand you have some new information. >> there is a report he, a pool report he where one reporter goes and is able to report back. the pool report he apparently misunderstood what was taking place from what was unfolding on the plane and reported significant radar contact with what appeared to be debris. the seventh fleet, and the spokesman from the uss blue ridge is now saying that was an incorrect report. the reporter didn't understand what was taking place there. so far the p-8 flying over the area is not getting any evidence at all of debris. looking for this debris that
showed up on the satellite images. so there in lies what little confusion there is that the p-8 has seen something. officially from the crew on board via the uss blue ridge there is no confirmation of any debris. this is advanced technology searching 10,000 square miles at a sweep. we're talking for those folks just joining us. we're talking about one of these pieces, based on the analysis, it is a big piece of debris. >> kerry just to be clear, we talked about this. we don't know where they are in that window. >> we don't. i was waiting for the folks to get me the takeoff time of when they -- it is 4:00 in the
afternoon now. and i know that i was told the p-8 left sometimes this morning australian time. so they can probably push to it 12 hours that they can remain airborne. they don't want to push it too much because they don't want to run into being low on fuel trying to make it back. the p-8 while it has the advance technology and the ability to provide an incredible. a information, it is not the sole resource in this case. there are also two p-3s in the area. they also provide a tremendous am of technology. one is from new zealand and the other from australia so they also have the bail to back this up. and then on top of that, there is a c-130 hercules flying in the area. that's not really designed to look down with advance technology will but rather going there to drop markers so they can put in some markers when and
when if they find this debris. nothing worse than to get an idea where it is. have the sea state there with nine foot seas perhaps crash on something. cause to it sink down and lose its exact location so they'll put those markers there. and they'll use them to start calculating back. where it may have floated from. i'm getting an e-mail from -- no. that's not it. i thought i was getting an e-mail from the folks on the ship. they have not, they have not seen anything on the p-8 that suggests there is debris on the water. >> they continue to search and we'll continue to update you. we'll have a lot more including waiting for a news conference and we believe a cargo ship that could get on the scene within the next couple hours. you've tried to forget your hepatitis c.
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morning here on the east coast. good morning. i'm chris jansing. two objects floating in the southern part of the indian ocean actually described as bobbing. now, these images were just released by officials in australia, although if you look at them, you see that the date stamp is from the 16th. today is the 20th. but they've obviously been studying these images and although they don't know that this is debris from the plane, those studies provided a credible enough lead for australia to hold this news conference and to bet let us know they have sent four planes and ships into that area to check it out. this area we're talking about is about 15,000 miles off the coast of australia in the southern indian ocean. we just heard from kerry sanders that the "uss blue ridge says that there have been radar reflections picked up, but no ca