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picture of ablow this morning. have a great sunday everyone. ten
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for the governor's mansion. republicans no doubt are banking on a victory during this special session with also hopes to energize the voting base and the conservative voters ahead of next year's midterms. chris. casey steagall reporting from dallas. casey thank you and joining us now. thank you and joining us now. >> chris: i'm chris wallace.
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texas governor greg abbott leaving the pushback to president biden's policies and calling a special session filled with hot button g.o.p. priorities. ♪ ♪ from changing voting laws to border security, abortion, and critical race theory, lawmakers in austin are meeting to tackle it all. if we will discuss what's on their agenda and what's not, plus a possible election challenge from a hollywood heavyweight. texas governor greg abbott. only on "fox news sunday." then... >> president biden: we are ending america's longest war. >> chris: president biden moves up the deadline for u.s. troops to pull out of afghanistan, even as the taliban advances. we will ask pentagon press secretary john kirby what it means for america's national security. plus, sharp reaction from the administration's door-to-door vaccine drive. >> this is still an experiment of vaccine being used under
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emergency use authorization, it's none of their business who's had it and who hasn't had it. >> chris: we will ask our sunday panel about the controversy as the delta variance urges. paul right now and "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ >> chris: and hello again from fox news in washington. well, there's an old-fashioned political showdown in texas right now that could shake next year's midterm campaign across the country. the battle geared up in may when democrats fled the state capital to block new voting laws the g.o.p. wanted to pass. of now the governor is called state legislatures back into a special session to deal with that and other issues on the border wall, transgender students in sports and critical race theory. in a moment we will have an exclusive in every with the governor of texas, greg abbott, but first let's bring in casey stegall in dallas with a look at what all the fighting is
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about. casey. >> chris, good morning to you. the agenda is a mix of both unfinished business and a few new items, but they are all measures that appeal, nto achien integrity. so what texas is doing is we're making it easier to vote by adding more hours of early voting than we had in current law, but also making it harder to cheat with regard to male imbalance. well, governor. let me ask you, though, about two other things that the gop bills would do. i want to put them up on the screen. they would ban 24 hour voting and they would ban drive through voting. now there was no allegation of any fraud and either of those harris county, the houston area employed both of dollars and more than half of the voters who showed up. for people of color, so you say you want to make it easier to vote that's going to make it harder to vote. and the
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question is wine. make it harder for some texans to vote unless the point is to suppress voting by people of color. so you mentioned a couple of things that need to be responding to one you mentioned how harris county did this, and it was harris county alone and for your viewers, harris county is where houston, texas is located. let's go back to article one, section four of the united states constitution where it says in there that it is the state's not counties that had the authority to regulate elections and. despite that constitutional mandate this past election, harris county, a county tried to create his own election system that had never been used in the state of texas, it was not using other parts of the state of texas. and so what governor of texas is why not let it go on? governor can give you some again. the question is, if 24 hour voting worked, why not continue it? wolf first i can't. i'm going to answer your question specifically, but you need to go back to elections before now because the same
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allegations were made when texas passed a voter i d law, and everyone said the exact same thing. this is going to disenfranchise people of color. it will reduce voting, and the fact of the matter is after we pass voter id, we increasingly saw every election cycle more people go voted did not make it harder to go vote was easier to go vote. and the same thing applies here. and that is what 24 hour voting one thing that we want to make sure that we have is integrity in the ballot box system, and we need to have a poll watchers and monitors and kennedy. it's hard even for a county to get people to be watching the polls 24 hours a day we are providing more hours per day for voting to make sure that anybody of any type of background any type of working situation is. going to have the opportunity to go vote with with regard to the drive through voting. listen this this violates the fundamentals of what the way that voting integrity has always been achieved, and that is the sanctity of the ballot box. if you do drive through voting are
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you going to have people in the car with you? and it could be somebody from your employer or somebody else? we may have some coercive effect on the way that you would cast your ballot which is contrary to you going into the ballot box alone and no one there watching over your shoulder. so that your the way you vote. only you will know what the vote will be and to allow other people to pile into a car with you. it will alter that, in addition to it would violate state law because in state law, we have prohibitions on election nearing close to the where people cast their vote if you do and drive through voting, there's going to be election nearing, could be on the bumper sticker in the car right in front of you. we do. still, however, chris provide what was called curbside voting for those who qualify for curbside voting that continues to be in place. bottom line. chris's harris county. under the constitution is not allowed to come up with their own rules. what texas is doing, where by adding more hours. we're making it easier if we put out about one last point, chris and that is if you
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look at the hours of voting that texas provides, it is far more hours of voting than exist in the state where our current president voted in where they have exactly zero hours of early voting as far easier to vote. in the state of texas than it is in delaware. and yet nobody is claiming there's some type of voter suppression taking place in delaware. governor let me ask you about the special session in general because some democrats say and this is the word they use that you are using it to pander to trump supporters on the far right of the republican party. i want to put up some of the. key agenda items. uh voting reform as we talked about border security, social media censorship, transgender student athletes critical race theory. abortion and your critics point out that what is it on the agenda for the special session is the electrical grid in texas, which broke down during the deep freeze last winter. 100
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more than 150. people were killed more than four million texans. lost their their power during that, and the question is, why wouldn't you address an issue like that? that affects people's everyday lives? so you raised two issues and let me answer both of them. one is if you look at all these issues that on the special session agenda, these are new items. all of these items were up on the agenda during the regular session. they got close to the finish line and the only reason why they didn't get across the finish line is because, as you pointed out earlier, the democrats decided to abandon their job and walk off the job that did not give us the time to get those other items across the finish line, and so all we're trying to do is to continue to achieve exactly what we were trying to achieve during the regular session. i need to point out to you, chris exactly. why the power grid is not on the special session, and that's because during the regular session, there were robust laws that were passed by
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the texas legislature that provide all the changes that are needed to make sure that we will have an effective power grid. i must point out chris one very important thing that most people do not know. and that is what was the main cause. the power grid failure in the wintertime and it's nothing what anybody knows the main cause of the power grid failure in the state of texas actually was a failure by the power generators in texas to file a simple document with er cut the, uh. electric reliability council of texas. uh and remember, chris, i need to explain this very quickly and that is in texas, like in many other states whenever there's going to be a temporary shutdown of power in a state there's certain areas that are exempt from being shut down, such as hospitals such as downtowns and such as police stations in texas before the winter storm took place. power generators and power transmission or entities. they were not subject to not being shut down when ercot shut them
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down in the winter storm they froze, had market not shut them down. this would have been a four hour event, as opposed to a four day event. now what is that? what governor? i've got limited brooklyn, sir. i got limited time and the question it. no sir. the question i have is the power grid isn't fixed. you talk about it being fixed. by the legislature. but you had over 1000 on plans outages in june and ercot, the agency regulating is already asking people in texas to voluntarily conserve energy because it's in danger of being overloaded. so you haven't solved the problem. real quickly, chris. well what happened in in june, uh, did not have enough time for all the changes that were made during the regular session to go into effect. yeah. problem whatsoever what happened in june? there were mechanical repairs that needed to be made to about 15% of the natural gas
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and oil and coal fire power plants and during those repairs, there was no blackouts, no rolling black house or anything like that, just for a few hours a day. also for conservation. here's the important point chris and that as it turned out during the summertime, there were exactly zero people who lost power in the summertime showing that the power grid does work very effectively. all right. one glass question. you've got 30 seconds to answer it. you're up for reelection next year, and you may face a real high profile challenger. take a look. something i'm trying to look in the eye and give honest consideration. what an awesome. privilege awesome responsibility. awesome position of sacrifice and service something to consider. governor how seriously do you take? matthew mcconaughey as a possible opponent. it doesn't matter what the name is. i take everybody very seriously and it shows i'll tell you two things
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and that is if you look at my polling numbers. they are very, very strong. in addition to that i have $55 million in the bank already, and i'm a very aggressive fundraiser, so i will have the resources in the backing of a lot of people across the state of texas to ensure that. whoever decides to run against me, we will be able to win. governor rabbit. thank you. thanks for your time. i got to say some of your fellow republican governor stick to friendly venues as life preservers. i appreciate you coming on and being willing to answer all our questions, sir. thank you, chris. up next we'll bring in our sunday group to discuss the new biden push to go door to door to promote vaccinations. why has that set off some people? when i was your no, no, no, no. no cheated anyone? planning a trip? yes. hello? i saw those days are
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start with you. i think it's fair to say that president biden's door to door comments started quite a controversy about his effort to get more people vaccinated. how frustrated is the white house by the fact that a third. of all americans are, it seems pretty resolute and refusing to get vaccinations and do they have. real plan to deal with us. i think this has become one of the biggest frustrations for the biden white house. you know, they went into this vaccination campaign, always expecting that there was going to be some group of americans that was going to be hesitant or resistant to getting a vaccine, but they thought that they would be able to overcome that hesitancy with more information and with proof that vaccinations are working, and what they found, is that. it's really hard to get that number to budge, and that number is larger than i think they expected initially, and so you've seen this effort to start to lean into the idea of really personal messaging. biden floating the idea of essentially a door to door campaign and i think. they were
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then, additionally frustrated by the blow back to that, because it did get a bit misconstrued the idea that these were going to be people who are going to be coming with, you know clipboards to check off whether you were vaccinated or not, that there was some sort of government survey, which is not really what they're talking about. talking about essentially trying to take trusted people in communities to make the pitch to people who are hesitant at this point, and they do think that that kind of personal interaction is the best way to get past as some of the misinformation frankly, that a lot of people are holding on to avoid getting vaccinated. mark. how do you feel about this idea of community to community door to door intervention, and you know what they they say these on government officials are just volunteers. because their community has a stake and people getting vaccinated. how do you feel about that effort? well, chris, i think that it's really a medical miracle that we have the three vaccines within the first year, and i think it's an incredible accomplishment. frankly, that 70% of americans have at least
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have one dose of the vaccination. i think at this point, there really isn't a lack of information or a lack of access. the people who are choosing tour to not get vaccinated, doing so for their own reasons. and so i think at some point americans expect the right to be at your own choice for your own health. and i think that. probably better resources could be expended, perhaps sending people down to the southern border where there seems to be a greater influx of covid coming across with the free access than trying to say we're going to send community organizers to people's households. i've got to commend you on that pivot mark. that was very well done. uh, chuck, let me ask you about this because it does a fine line here. on the one hand, i think the government does have. an interest in making sure that people are vaccinated or trying to at least give them that option. but on the other hand, you do run the risk of looking like big brother and we saw that when hhs secretary bezerra.
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was asked about whether or not the government it's the government's business who's been vaccinated. and here was his answer this week. it is absolutely the government government business. it is taxpayers business if we have to continue to spend money to try to keep people from contracting covid and helping reopen the economy. chuck bezerra. uh, the blowback was so fierce that sarah had to put out a statement about is the government business, saying no, the government is not going to set up a database from this door to door thing and try to say here's who's been vaccinated and here's who has not been vaccinated. this is delicate. sure it's delicate and you get the feeling that the unvaccinated and the white house or sort of talking past each other. if you look at the data about who is unvaccinated. they are people who tend to be more in rural america in small town america than in the big cities of the of the coasts,
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and by nature. those people are a little bit more distrusting of government so. i think the biden administration and with the best of intentions and with no real threat to anyone's privacy message this very poorly. i'm also struck by the fact that the government. seems to not want to try to give people incentives. you know, monetary and other incentives to take the vaccine. there's a very interesting. piece of poll data from kaiser family foundation. a quarter of the unvaccinated say that they would go and get it if you will, if that got them into a lottery for a million dollars, so i sort of think there's this calls for some more creative thinking. to get that last few people there's about a 20% hardcore. that's never going to do it. but maybe another five or 10% would be persuadable, maybe with some more incentives. and in fact, as we know, some states like ohio have set up those lot of rays
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and incentives. julie, i want to turn. to another big issue that i was discussing with governor abbott. and that is this question of new voting laws, voting restrictions the president met with civil rights leader is this week. and. you know when you've got these red states like texas imposing new restrictions when you've got the democrats in congress with their big reform bill, which seems at least for now to be dead, and you have the supreme court. it's just in its final week of that session. upheld to, uh, laws in arizona about voting restrictions. uh how. let me put it this way. does the biden white house have a plan as to how they're gonna deal with this put pull back on on voting in the country. well, i think what you're going to start to see over the next couple of weeks is a pivot from democrats and the white house to move away from the focus on this big, sprawling piece of voting legislation that you're right is pretty much dead in the water on the hill right now. and a focus more on
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restoration of pieces of the voting rights act. now that is difficult, even though it is more narrow than the bigger piece of legislation and one of the things that democrats are keeping in mind as they try to pursue that legislation is that this is almost certainly going to end up back in the supreme court, so they're trying to craft this legislation in a way that could address some of the concerns we've seen from some of the more conservative justices, including in the arizona case. we just got the ruling on a few weeks ago, but this is going to be a bit of a slog through the summer to try to get that voting rights legislation passed. if they do, you can fully expect that to end up in the courts. and i quickly mark. we've got less than a minute left. i mean, there's no real reason to think that that would pass muster in the senate, either. what are you going to get 10 republicans to go on to the john lewis voting act. no, of course not. chris, i think that unfortunately, is a false dichotomy right now. the nation where it's like if you're supportive of these election
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reforms that somehow you're accused of believing there was widespread fraud, and it was stolen. or otherwise, you like major league baseball, which requires a photo id to pick up a ticket at will call but says if your state enforces voted in a presidential election, you're racist. and if we're going to move an all star game. from georgia to colorado. i think there's a lot of people who fall somewhere in between, which is to say there was not widespread fraud, but because of all the problems of covid, you had states making unilateral decisions from unelected people who are extending voting days, allowing ballot harvesting and this governor, abbott said. in your last segment that belongs to state legislatures to make those decisions for each state. and the people can vote in math. they don't like the changes they make. but that's the appropriate process in a democrat system that we have. all right panel. we have to take a break here. we'll see you a little later in the program. next we go live to afghanistan as u. s forces pull out. the taliban makes games and we'll speak with a top pentagon officials about the end of the u. s mission. only
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trillion. u. s troops are leaving afghanistan and they're leaving behind a fractured afghan government, a surging enemy and an uncertain future. in a moment, we'll speak with pentagon press secretary john kirby about what it means for us national security. but first let's turn to greg palkot in kabul with the latest on the situation on the ground there, greg. chris, we have been back on the ground here in afghanistan for three days now, and there has been no let up in fighting new reports today of clashes between the taliban and afghan government forces in the very important southern afghan city of kandahar, diplomats said to be evacuating as the trouble spreads nationwide. the taliban on the move, seizing district after district across afghanistan this past week, gaining control of stretches of the country's borders, including key crossings. the afghan military often giving up without a fight. militants
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displaying commandeered us weaponry. it is clear to you and to all the world that the taliban has the control of 85% of afghanistan's territory. that claim denied by the afghan government. as it said over the weekend, it was taking back some overrun territory and announcing high taliban death tolls. also unconfirmed, what is sure is the bulk of u. s troops have departed. hasty exit, including for the main bagram base, triggering the taliban conquests, including a renewed threat to the rights of girls and women under all possible taliban rule. people tell us they're afraid. in our country, everybody every second every minute. we are in the fear of we live in fewer. this is something that happened suddenly in afghanistan because of the withdrawal of the. and us through people want to get out of afghanistan now, understand? yeah, why? it's hard to live here. by the way, we were out at that huge bagram
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airbase today. we spoke to afghan soldiers there and they told us they were surprised and unprepared. for the speed and the manner of the u. s. troops exit from that base, unsettling times all around, chris. greg palkot reporting from kabul, greg, thanks for that and joining us now from the pentagon press secretary john kirby. john the u. s has spent almost two decades training up the afghan military and the police. we've spent. over $88 billion over that time, training them up. why are they failing so miserably in repelling the taliban? what? you're right, chris. they have much more capacity than they've ever had before. much more capability, and they got a an air force a very capable air force helping defend their troops on the ground. they've got very sophisticated special forces who have been in the fight and they're brave fighters. so this is a moment of leadership. and you heard the president talked about that
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the other day. it's their right and responsibility now to defend their citizens in their country. and i think when we look back whatever the outcomes are, chris, we're going to look back and we're going to be able to say that it came down to leadership, civilian leadership and military leadership in the field. now the one thing that we can assure our afghan partners is while we aren't going to be on the ground with them going forward. we are not walking away from this relationship. we're going to continue to support them. from a financial perspective, logistical perspective and certainly aircraft maintenance. we're not walking away from this relationship. but, john, you're talking about how well set up the afghan military is they're giving up huge swaths of the country. the taliban now say that they control 85% of the country. i know you dispute that, but the long war journal, which tracks this kind of thing, estimates that 13 million afghans. now live in areas controlled by the taliban, 10 million in areas controlled by the government and nine million in contested areas. and as you just heard, greg palkot report.
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the taliban has now fighting for control of the second largest city in the country. kandahar and people are fleeing the country. are you surprised that the taliban is making these kinds of sweeping advances so quickly? certainly watching with deep concern chris the deteriorating security situation in the violence, which is of course, way too high and the advances and the and the momentum that the taliban seems to have right now. i mean, we're not. we're not unmindful that, chris, we're watching it, monitoring it, which is why we are again working with our afghan partners to encourage them to use the capacity and the capability that we know they have. and we know. they know how to defend their country. this is a time for them to step up and to do exactly that. the big question from the u. s point of view is if the taliban ends up taking over the country, which is certainly a possibility. will that increase the terror threat? the us homeland here is republican congressman michael wall to take a look. al qaeda will come roaring back in the wake of an
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afghanistan out of a taliban takeover much like isis did when obama pulled out of iraq and we saw what happened there with attacks across the middle east europe and the united states. john president biden talks and talked just this last week about our being able to blunt the terrorist threat from quote over the horizon, which means from not in country in afghanistan. but our closest military bases to afghanistan and more than 1000 miles away. are we really going to rely on that to protect the u. s homeland from increased terror threats of terror groups find new safe havens in afghanistan. we always want to find additional options. chris. that's why we're working with the neighboring countries that are closer to afghanistan to see what the possibilities are, and we're doing that as briskly and as energetically as we can to find additional options that said, kristen, you know this. we have. sophisticated and
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robust over horizon capabilities. even without that, obviously closing down space and time would certainly make it easier and faster for us to deal with any kind of threat emanating out of afghanistan towards the homeland, but we have the ability to do it even from afar, even from those bases in the middle east, an aircraft carrier that's off in the indian ocean. we can do that, and we've proven that we can done that, even in recent years in places like libya. it's not like we haven't done this before, or that there is a scrap of earth that we can't reach if we absolutely need to. but in fairness when you talk about libya, we think of benghazi and the fact that when that embassy was under attack now i understand. we're not talking about that. we're talking about them hatching plots. it took hours for us resources. to get to benghazi, and by the time they got there was too late. let me let me move on to another subject. there's also the question that i think a lot of americans asked about the millions of girls in afghanistan and women the girls in school, the women leading full lives. what happens if the taliban takes
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over and puts all of those girls and women back under sharia law puts the women back under the burqa. are we really in effect, saying that's not our problem? of women and girls in afghanistan is the world's problem. it's everybody'sess they've made and the progress they still have yet to make.'s l for a negotiated political solution to the end of this war that is afghan led that the afghan people have a voice in saying, and it's not imposed on them. outside the country. it's got to be afghan led in a peaceful, negotiated settlement, so that that kind of progress can continue. the other thing i'd say chris is that we the president's made clear we're going to keep a diplomatic presence in kabul. that means keeping diplomats at it. that means continuing the programs and initiatives that we continue to espouse for women and girls for literacy for education for advancement and for reform. we're still going to be committed to those programs going forward. but diplomacy and peace
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negotiations if the u. s is out. we have lost and more importantly, the afghan government has lost any leverage with the taliban. you had this argument that somehow if you have boots on the ground, all of a sudden you have all this leverage has not that hasn't exactly panned out the last. 5 10 15 years, chris when we had 100,000 troops on the ground, so the idea that if you have boots on the ground, all of a sudden that gives you leverage has not exactly been the historical record so far. what what we do have is a lot of diplomatic left for jim. we're using that we are still involved in trying to broker forward a negotiated settlement in afghanistan and nothing has changed about our commitment to that. and the rest of the international community also needs to stay committed to that kind of an outcome so that that his afghan led so that this kind of progress doesn't fall by the wayside. i want to talk quickly about two other subjects with you. president biden talked to vladimir putin on friday about continued cyber attacks from that country. on the u. s a senior official afterwards on a readout of the
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call said that the us will quote take any necessary action to defend our infrastructure. what kind of measures is the pentagon cyber command prepared to take? to defend the u. s. yes. i think you could understand the last thing i'm going to do on national t v s talk about cyber operations in any great detail. what i can tell you is that we our job is to provide options to the. the president options in the cyber realm options outside the soap cyber realm and just because you have you face a cyberattack doesn't mean that that's how you necessarily respond in kind. there's a whole range of tools that the president's disposal. some of those tools reside here at the pentagon and at cyber command, and we're going to be prepared and ready to tee up those options for him whenever he might need them. and it wouldn't be fair to say that the president has at his disposal. a wide set of cyber options from the pentagon if he decides to go in that direction. that is very fair to say yes, sir. okay, let's
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finally turn to haiti. uh the haiti's government has asked the us to send troops there to deal with the chaos in that country. is. the pentagon prepared to send us forces they are first of all to deal with the situation. and secondly. now that we've had the assassination of haiti's president. is the situation there and the disk, right? is that a matter of u. s national security? well, chris, as for your first question that we are aware of the request by the haitian government, we're analyzing it just like we would any other requests for assistance here at the pentagon is going through a review. i'm not going to get ahead of that process and today an interagency team, largely from department of homeland security, and the fbi are heading down to haiti right now to see what we can do to help them in the investigative process, and i think that's really where our energies are best applied right now in helping them get their arms around investigating this incident and figuring out who's culpable who's responsible and
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how best to hold them accountable. going forward. that's where our focus is right now. and real quickly is what's going on in haiti. is that a matter of u. s national security? i think we are watching the situation very closely, chris. i don't know that we're at a point now where we can say definitively that our national security is being put at risk by what's happening there. but clearly we value our haitian partners. we we value stability and security in that country. and that's why we want to send a team down there today to help them get their arms around exactly what happened and what's the best way forward. john. thank you. thanks for sharing part of your weekend with us. always good to talk with you, sir. you too, sir. thank you. up next we'll ask the panel what happens if the taliban take over afghanistan? and doug. so then i said to him, you have to customize your car insurance ohn
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afghanistan with no reasonable expectation. achieving a different outcome. president biden standing his ground on pulling u. s troops out of afghanistan as the taliban make dramatic advances across that country, and we're back now with the panel. mark. uh, president. biden is ordering this pull out, but. president trump former president trump was planning to do the same thing after you were re elected, and in fact, he had wanted to get all troops up. by may 1st as you look at what's happening in afghanistan now. any second thoughts about this policy of total withdrawal. chris i think that president trump was right to initiate it. and i actually think the president biden is correct to complete the withdrawal. i think that americans, men and women in uniform should not be police keepers across the globe, nor should we be involved in nation building. having said that i do know that at the end, the intelligence community came to
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the trump administration has said, if we could at least keep a hub and a base there, because we've had so many effective counterterrorism covert operations. special forces and that would not require 100,000 troops. it would require enough troops to fortify base and you look at afghanistan strategically located between iran and china. having that base to continue to do covert operations, i think would be beneficial to america, so i support the withdraw the majority of troops. i think it's the right policy that the by administration is completing. i think it's unfortunate, though, that the intelligence community was. was not successful in getting their wish to maintain some some base of troops there to allow us to continue do counterterrorism operations. do you have any reason to believe that president trump would have kept a counterterrorism force there? no, i don't. i don't think that at the time that their arguments either way with president trump, either. i think he was anxious to withdrawal. all troops, and i
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think that's unfortunate. think it would have been get better to have had a base for the intelligence community continued to covert operations. chuck the president. president biden was categorical this week that whatever happens in afghanistan, ultimately, it's their problem. take a look. it's up to the people of afghanistan. decide on what government they want. not us to impose the government on them. truck. the flaw in that reasoning, of course, and you heard it. also from john kirby is the afghan people may not get to decide their government because it maybe it won't be the us that imposes it on. um it will be the taliban. the way they're going to decide who's the government in afghanistan is probably through war, and that's on the way and that's why in that very good report we heard from kabul from greg. so many people in that city were expressing fear about what's coming next. it's absolutely
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true that this would have been donald trump's problem to or his policy. to it's now happening on joe biden's watch, and it's happening in some haste, and i would say some unseemly haste. it's almost like a bug out. rather than a phased withdrawal, and i think we all need to be concerned. in addition to the humanitarian impact this will have on afghanistan itself. on the prestige and the perceived power of the united states. i think one reason the taliban is being so aggressive. is they are going to try to create the spectacle of humiliating defeat. similar to vietnam in 1974 75 for the united states, not just to take back afghanistan. to create a spectacle in the world that the united states is a weakened empire in a paper tiger. and if that happens, and i hope it doesn't it will be happening on joe biden's watching. better
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for better worse, he will own it. i want to turn to the other big foreign policy story this week, and that is the continued cyber attacks on the us emanating from russia. it got serious enough that president biden spoke to russian president putin for an hour this week. and then have this readout. united states expects. and ransom. our operation is coming from his soil. expect them to act if we give them enough information to act on do that, you said three weeks ago there, wendy consequences will their research yes. julie the president keeps saying to putin don't do it. don't do it, and then it happens again and he repeats. don't do it, uh, do they have a plan here as to how to deal with it? yeah. you know, this feels very similar to the arguments that we were hearing from the obama white house in the final months delivy
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privately at that point, because we were in the in the 2016 campaign, but the message was we know you're doing this. we know this is emanating from russia and you need to stop. and yet here we are several years later, and this is still happiness. so i think no, you know, the u. s has not figured out at this point. how to get russia to change its behavior or how to get putin to crack down on some of these bad actors within his country. i do think that there is a pretty aggressive discussion happening within the administration right now. john kirby alluded to this. a lot of this is going to be classified. lot of this is going to be as the response is going to be carried out in ways that were not always going to see or know publicly, but until we see a change in behavior emanating from russia, i think the answer to this has to be that. no, there is not an effective plan at the moment. mark uh, there's a danger when you keep setting red lines and the difference between what obama was doing and what biden was doing was biden made those red lines very public at the
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summit in geneva. there's a danger to setting red lines. and then not enforcing them. sure, chris, i think that previously the obama administration often prosecuted cyber attacks like a doj investigation in a crime. one thing that's been, i think less reported as president. trump gave a lot more latitude to our military and to our intelligence communities to respond in kind of cyber attacks and to be aggressive with it, and i think it deterred. foreign actors were looking to attack the united states. i don't know whether the biden administration is relapse to a previous policy that's pursuing it. more as a criminal investigation is whether they're giving the same latitude to our military with cyber attacks, but i do know i do believe that. that we have an extreme capability to cripple other countries who conduct these attacks on us and whether or not our military has given latitude to use them. i don't know right now. chuck i got about 30 seconds left if the cyber attacks continue, and
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they continued after the warning in geneva now putin has gotten another one. if they continue. how much runway does joe biden have left before he has to act. i think he's got less runway now than he had before, and i think putin is loving this situation because this is, uh, perfect way to harass the united states and cause perception of weakness by the president. without with deniability for moscow and no cost to putin. on the other questions. the question at some point will there be a cost of putin panel? thank you. see you next sunday. up next our power player of the week, cellist yo yo ma spreading home through his magical music. my husband, ben and i opened bench chill about the very same year that we were married in 1958. over
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cellist yo yo ma on the roll music can play in the time of cove it despite quarantines and social distancing, ma has found ways to bring people closer together. this is a moment for invention. the thing that we then need to look at is the delivery system. and deliver. he has. ma began a project called songs of comfort, where a post video on social media playing his cello. one of my colleagues said, you know, maybe we could do what we usually do. in times of, uh, stress and disasters. how about. if we do songs of comfort and hope, i said done, miles, videos have gotten almost 45 million views, and he's invited other artists to post their own songs of comfort. like james taylor. try not to try to hard. it's just a lovely, right. i
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think we're all trying to figure out ways to find ways to help. music has always been a passion for ma, born in paris, then raised in new york city. he was a child prodigy playing for president kennedy at age seven. over the years he's performed on a variety of stages from carnegie hall to sesame street to president obama's first inauguration. how difficult was it not to be in front? of an audience on a stage for all these months, it was not difficult for me because i think i was constantly in touch with people. mm hmm. music actually does play a part in helping. and so ma played songs of comfort for us and for you. mm.
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