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break. i was overwhelmed. ros: downing street insiders tell the bbc lockdown parties there we, during the pandemic and alice that boris johnson allowed them to go ahead. >>e wasn't say this shouldn't happening. he wasn't saying, can everyone go home? he wasn't saying, put masks on, he was grabbing a glass for himself. ros: the european union is accusing russia of using food as a weapon in the war in ukraine read we look at that issue in depth. ♪ let's again with a special report on china. a huge collection of data linked to china's treatment of uyghurs and other minorities have been handed to the bbc. they shed more light on the chinese system of mass incarceration of the uyghur people. they evidence includes a shoot
and kl policy for everyone who tried to escape. a u.k. secretary called the revelations shocking. we have more from john sudworth. john: these are faces china never intended us to see, from inside its system of mass incarceration in xinjiang. the government has lon denied it is running detention camps for uyghurs, insisting they are vocational schools for willing students. the photos, almost 3000 of them, show the reality of how whole swabs of uyghur society have been swept up. the oldest, 73 at the time of her detention, the youngest just 15. the uyghurs with their islamic traditions and a history of separatism and violence, have long raised cycles of tightening
governmenttrol. ♪ [singing] and with mounting criticism over the camps, authorities have taken journalists on tours, showing uyghurs celebrating their culture and being guided away from extremism, they say. but it is a narrative undermined by the tens of thousands of files passed to the bbc one set of documents described regarding of this camp just outside a ci, with armed police stationed at all main buildings and each watchtower guarded by two officers equipped with sniper rifles. inside, lessons are watched over by police carrying shields, batons and handcuffs. at the documents described the response to students who attempt to escape. if warning shots are ignored, the warning is clear -- shoot them dead. >> this is classified internal
government information. john: the files are said to be hacked from the police computer service by a source whose identity means unknown at were first passed to dr. adrian zens, a scholar who shared them with the bbc. >> you have police officers a riot gear standing next to some of the men. some of the men have their arms in a position as if they were handcuffed. this is very powerful, the image material. >> i was looking at these images on the laptop in my living room and i had to get uand go somewhere else and take a break. i was overwhelmed. john: the hacked files contain hundreds of spreadsheets, row upon row of draconian jail sentences, often targeting expressions of islamic faith is a parallel method alongside the camps for detaining uyghurs. just for growing a bird, this man was sentenced to 60 years in jail. his chosen expression of uyghur
identity, forcibly removed. many others have been jailed for listening to illegal religious lectures. the documents don't say whether their daughters have been sent, like so many others come estate-run boarding schools built alongside the camps. >> the data can be verified, shown to contain real people. this man, who has not seen his wife and children since he left xinjiang, in a search of the hacked files, found this -- a photo of his wife sentenced, the documents say, to 16 years in prisons for -- imprisoned for a big offense that appears time and again, gathering a crowd to disturb social order. >> you can see however spirit is broken, he tells me. john: this meant new his eldest son has been jailed, the
database tells him for how long -- 15 years. [crying] for terrorism, but only his son's devout islamic faith is listed. a chinese ministry spokesperson responded to our report, describing it as simply the latest anti-china falsehood and an attempt to smear china with lies. xinjiang is stable and the people have happy lives. but there has been no attempt to address the evidence itself, which includes these images from deep within e system, further evidence of the harsh detention and indoctrination of a people not for what they have done, but who they are. john sudworth, bbc news. ros: i will be talking with john about the investigation -- i have been talking with john about the investigation over the past few months.
the data comes from an anonymous source that appears to have hacked into a come -- a police computer service in xinjiang. the best information to a u.s.-based who has long researched china's policies in xinjiang, dr. adrian zentz, with the u.s. victims of communism the morrill odaesan, and a van -- and aman very high-profile on this story, sanctioned by china for the work he has done. and it is because of his probe announced -- is prof annan's that he was just -- his proven ance that he was chosen for this mission and he turned it over to the bbc to ultimately bhopal -- ultimately be publicized, b also that it needed research to be authenticated, which is what we have spent the past few months doing. how have we done that? this is a huge month of data --
tens of thousands of files, photographs, documents, internal senior speeches from party officials, and spreadsheet data, row upon row of information about individuals, giving detention status, reasons for their detention, names, addresses and id numbers. what we have done is first of all tried to establish if this is about real people, and we have spoken to members of the uyghur diaspora,sking them for names and id numbers of family members missing in xinjiang. we then ve run the information against this database and have been able to show that this is informion that contains real people. ros: john, i wonder what you learned from this cache of documents that you perhaps didn't fully understand before and?
john -- beforehand? john: interesting question. i have been in china for nine years, i spent a lot of times covering the -- a lot of time covering the xinjiang story and stories of important geopolitical significance. we traveled to xinjiang frequently. china has long argued that his policies and xinjiang are designed to combat the threat of extremism and terrorism in a part of the world that has a history of simmering separatism. the her evidence hasaised the possibility that something far wider is in play and what is really happening is, this is china conflating that terrorist threat with uyghur identity itself. ros: the u.s. state department has been reacting to john's report. have a listen. >> we are appalled by the
reports and jarring images of the prc's internment camps in shenyang, the report and those images shared online. the prc crimes against humanity against predominantly muslim uyghurs and other religious minority groups remains ongoing. ♪ ros: let's turn once more to those lockdown parties in downing street. because for the first time, insiders who were at some of the gatherings during coronavirus restrictions have talked in detail about what they saw. they have been speaking to the bbc's laura kuenssberg. one staffer describes the culture inside number 10. >> every week, event set number 10 press office drinks was a weekly invite on friday nights,
four press office drinks. yes,ne-time fridays, invites that were in everybody's calendar for 40 p.m.. >> 4:00 in the afternoon was one-time? >> yes. ros: drinking wasn't limited to wind time fridays. here is another staffer who would describe what they sometimes found when they arrived at work. >> what was it like the morning after? >> a miss -- bottles, empties, rubbish in the bee overflowing and indeed, sometimes left on the table. >> you would go to work in the morning at 10 downing street and find empty bottles littered around? >> yes. ros: two of the people who have spoken to the bbc have been fine for attending these events. and it is believed 10 downing street has more covert fines connected to it than any other address in the country. police issued more than 100 fines, some related to downing street, some other locations in whitehall, boris among those find.
laura kuenssberg has heard about the prime minister's role at these gatherings. >> he was there. he may have just been popping through of the way to his flat. but he wasn't thereaying, this shouldn't happen, he wasn't saying, can everyone go home? and everyone socially distance? can everyone put masks on? no, he wasn't telling anybody that. he was grabbing a glass for himself. ros: you may well have seen, we now have photos of boris johnson at one gathering in downing street. these come from i.t. news. we see boris johnson, he has a drink in his hand, standing by a table on which there are bottles of alcohol and food as well. this is november 13, 2020. the u.k. was in lockdown. there is another image in which the prime minister appears to be raising his glass in a toast. there are four photos in total. these were leaked by boris
johnson's then communications director. we have heard from one staffer who was at the event. >> there was about 30 people if not more in the room. everyone stood shoulder to shoulder, some people on each other's lapse. >> sitting on each other's lapse? >> yes. one or two people. ro one person at least was fined for attending that event, but boris johnson was not. here is laura kussberg describing conversations about that decision by police among staffers. >> there is a sense of injustice amg some of them and i think that has been exacerbated by what has happened about that party borisohnson was pictured at yesterday. they do not necessarily feel that consequences are playing out in an equal way. ros: so, there is that issue of whether it was fair the boris johnson was not find. there is another issue, because nearly a month after that do, and parliament, a labor mp asked boris johnson about an event on that exact date. >> what will the prime minister
tell the house, whether there was a party at downing street on november 13? >> mr. speaker, no. it never happened. the guidance was followed in the rules were followed at all times. ros: that exchange may well remain a focus, because here is the ministerial code. part of reits, ministers, including the prime minister, who know willingly -- who knowingly mislead parliament will be expected to resign. one minister tall -- told laura kuenssberg how they reacted when they heard boris johnson that. >> when you enter collegfor boris johnson say no rules were broken? >> we watching it online and look at each other in disbelief, like why? why is he denying this?
we have been with him this entire time. we knew the rules had been broken. we do that these parties happened. ros: staffers knew that these parties happened, but boris johnson maintained he wasn't aware rules were being broken, even though, remember, he was making the rules. all this comes ahead of the soup gray report, the report into these gatherings expected from a senior civil servant that may arrive as early as wednesday. here is u.k. correspondent for the b rob watson. >> the prime minister received what you mig call a double whammy in the sense that first, he had those photos from colleagues on itv. then, you have the testimony that laura kuenssberg has produced. the problem there is that if you stick it all to gather -- altogether, it is very hard to square that with the prime minister telling parliament on a number of occasions that there were no parties and no rules
were broken. in many ways, that is perhaps a bigger threat to the prime minister the public opinion, the possibility of mp's finding that he had indeed misled parliament. ros: much more on that story owned -- story online, bbc.com/news. the premier league board has approved the proposed takeover of chelsea football club by a consortium led by the cone look -- co-owner of the l.a. dodgers baseball team. here is a statement from the premier league in which it says chelsea fc will work with the governments to secure necessary licenses to complete the takeover. if this goes ahead, it will cle roman abramovich's 19-your ownership of the club. stay with me because in the next few minutes, we talk about food purity. russia is accused by the eu of using food as a weapon in th war in ukraine. we look at that issue in depth. ♪
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no, why? ♪ ros: i am ros atkins with "outside source." thousands of files and photraphs hacked from chinese computers show uyghurs and detention camps and a shoot to kill policy for those trying to escape. let's turn to russia's ongoing campaign in the donbass area in the east of ukraine. big governor of the luhansk gion says russian forces have been bombing to cities. you can see them closeogether on the map here. the accusation is, russia's trying to surround them. the ukrainian president has this warning. >> the most difficult situation
is in the donbass. they want to eliminate everything that is alive. no one has destroyed the donbass like russian troops are doing now. the next weeks of the war will be difficult and we have to be mindful of that, but we have no alternative but to fight. ros: weave heard from ukraine's foign miniurging wests delivery. he says it is too early to conclude ukraineas all the arms it needs. the russian offensive in the donbass is the roughest on european soil since world war ii. here is an american perspective from one retired u.s. admiral. >> we have strong-willed people in putin and president zelenskyy, who doesn't want to give an inch. i think we are in for a long, difficult slog in the part of the country. the comparison to mariupol is probably a good one. russia has better lines of
communication, bter support. if they continue to pound away with long-range weapons come i think we are going to see this for sometime time and i think the losses and damage are going to be very significant. ros: the ukrainians say the bombardment of the regn is getting worse. russia is saying it has slowed down. here is the russian defense minister. >> cease-fires areeing declared and humanitarian corridors are being created to get people out of the settlements. this slows down the pace of the offensive, but this is done deliberately to avoid casualties among the civilian population. ros: for more on the russian offensive, here is bbc correspondent joe winwood. joe: the effort of the russians now is encircling these two cities, big, industrial cities. the way they are trying to do that is by pressuring donetsk on three fronts, to surround the
city, but also cut off supply lines, come from the south through a town, and they are having some success doing that. recently, we understand they have burst through defenses in one place, some frontlines i visited a few months ago that were incredibly well dug in. the fact they broke through is a success for russian forces. they are going to try and do is encircle and cut off supply lines. in the words of one prominent politicians here, create a new mariupol, create a new siege and start about and pound with artillery ukrainian defenders. ros: another aspect of the war is the steep rise in global food prices it has contributed to, particularly the price of grain. that has raised the prospect of supply issues and famine in some countries. the west accuses russia of using food as a weapon of war. >> we e witnessing how russia
is weaponizing its energy supplies and unfortunately, we are seeing the same pattern emerging in food security. ros: that is the eu. the u.s. agrees. >> the food supply for millions of ukrainians and millions more around the world has literally been held hostage by the russian military. ros: russia denies this. buthere is no denying that the wars affecting food supplies. >> we expected that ukraine will port 70 min lliopounds. but unfortunately, the russian invasion just blocked our ports. ros: ukraine' as main ports are on the black sea and thezov cn the biggest is odessa, which would normally export vast quantities of food. ukraine produces 10% of global wheat exports, that millions of tons of grain or stock. and more is coming. >> we are facing a disaster that
is cool to happen in the next few weeks with a new properties here in the old crop is not exported. ros: there isfor the new crop and this is the consequence. >> is a consequence for those who can least afford it who will be hardest hit. a number of african countries, egypt being really hard hit by the inability to get wheat out of ukraine. ros: egypt is one, somalia is another. it gets more than 60% of its crane from russia. pressure on supply brings pressure on costs. global food prices were already rising after covid and outcome of the russian invasion is posted them to record highs. according to the polish prime minister, the impact is deliberate. >> stalin has done this in ukraine in 1933 already, so it is a tradition for russia to weaponize wheat, to weaponize crops. ros: russia denies this and as you will hr, it blames ukraine.
>> the president said that sanctions and restrictions have caused the collapse that we see now. ukraine's actions to mine the azov and black seas have affected shipping. ros: ukraine use those minds to protect its ports from russian attack and now come ukraine is looking at this idea -- to restart export. >> we need assistance from our international partners to secure our exports through their seaports, to find a way to build a corr andi devise a solution to give opportunityd to ukrainian vessels. or ros: the idea of a corridor is being discussed by the u.k. endless wait, but there are obstacles. >> it would require the ukrainians to remove the minds and secondly, some way of deterring the threat from the russian fleet. ros: it may involve warships
protecting the convoy, with all the complications that could bring. while that idea is thrashed out, one alternative is ports of the river danube and railways as well. we know that some grain is getting out, but it is fraction of normal exports. and the u.n.'s language is increasingly stark about what this means. it tells us ukraine produces enough food for 400 million people, but that this could happen next. >> if we don't open those ports, you are talking about war on global food security. it will have extraordinary consequences. we are already facing the worst food crisis since world war ii and are looking at a hell storm on earth. ros: rush's war in ukraine is placing a huge strain on global supply chains that provide fundamentals of our lives, first energy supplies, now our food. remember, if you would like the explainers we produce on
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