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♪ judy: good evening. on newshour, the power of primaries. consequential general matchups are set as candidates endorsed by former president trump have mixed results and abortion becomes an energizing issue. >> this has the potential to unify at least on this one issue certain subsets of society who are previously thought of as having political agendas that were at odds. judy: guns in america. the massacre and buffalo highlights the ongoing issue of mass shooters obtaining their weapons legally. and after the fall. a new report details the many failings that led to the rapid
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contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> we'll return to the full program after the latest headlines. results are still rolling in from last night's primary elections in five states. in north carolina incumbent republican representative madison cawthorn was ousted by chuck edwards. meanwhile, the race has yet to be called in pennsylvania's republican u.s. senate contest. celebrity surgeon dr. oz is locked in a dead heat with a former hedge fund manager david mccormick. more on the results after this summary. stocks took a plunge on wall street today over a disappointing earnings report from target -- and concerns about inflation or the biggest single day losses 2020. the dow jones fell more than
1100 points to close at 31,490. the nasdaq dropped 566 point and the s&p 500 shed 165. covid-19 cases are spiking in the u.s. and federal health officials are calling on the hardest hit areas to consider reissuing indoor mass mandates. the influx is attributed to subviants of the highly contagious omicron variant. while the northeast and midwest are recording the highest numbers, it might not stop there. >> what we've seen with prior increases in infections in different waves of infection have demonstrated this travels across the country and has the potential to travel across the country. so i think the important thing to recognize is that we actually have the tools to prevent it. >> dr. walensky reported that u.s. covid cases increased 26%
in the past week and hospitalizations are up 19%. president biden is invoking the defense production act to boost the supply of baby formula that has grown so hard-to-find in recent months. the move directs the federal government to prioritize key ingredients for formula production and compel suppliers to provide resources to formula makers. mr. biden also launched a program that will use defense department aircraft to import formula from overseas. the first russian soldier to stand trial for war crimes of the ukraine pleaded guilty today to killing an unarmed civilian. the 21-year-old admitted to shooting a 62-year-old ukrainian man in the head. he could spend life in prison. meanwhile, russian officials released a video of ukrainian soldiers abandoning the steel plant in mariupol. they estimate 1000 troops surrendered. the u.s. embassy reopened today
in kyiv three months after closing ahead of the invasion. people gathered to watch as officials raised the american flag. a small number of staffers returned by counselor services have yet to fully resume. finland and sweden have now officially submitted their applications to join nato, but nato diplomat said national envoys have not reach a consensus on starting memory chip talks. meetings will continue at nato headquarters in brussels in the coming days. russia's foreign ministry said today its response to sweden joining nato would depend on how the allies deploys military bases and weapons in the future. meanwhile in washington, r national security advisor said that u.s. welcomes the membership bids. >> this is an historic event. a watershed moment in european security. two nations with a long tradition of neutrality will be joining the world's most powerful defensive alliance and they will bring with them strong
capabilities and a proven track record as security partners. >> turkey on the other hand reiterated its opposition to the two countries joining the alliance citing their support of kurdish groups ankora considers terrorist organizations. former police officer thomas lane pleaded guilty today to a state charge of aiding and abetting second-degree manslaughter in the death of george floyd. his count of second-degree unintentional murder will be dismissed as part of his plea deal. lane helped restrain floyd alongside derek chauvin who is serving 22.5 years in prison for murder and manslaughter in the state case. there is were the department of homeland security is pausing its disinformation governance board. tis director will resign. this followed weeks of criticism from republicans and questions about whether the board would place free speech -- would police free speech. still to come, the buffalo
massacre highlights the issue of mass shooters obtaining weapons legally. soccer players on the u.s. men's and women's national teams apparently have pay equity fo tie exhibit chronicles the work of late painter barkley hendricks and his use of the camera and much more. ♪ >> this is pbs newshour. from weta studios in washington and from our bureau at the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. judy: on the busiest primary days so far of the 2022 midterm elections there were mixed results for republican candidates endorsed by former president donald trump. for democrats several races provided the first true test of what the party's message will be with trump no longer at the top of the ticket. lisa desjardins begins our coverage. lisa: in pennsylvania.
>> we are not going to have a result tonight. lisa: a key senate primary too close to call. dr. oz, donald trump's chosen candidate, narrowing leading his republican opponent dave mccormick with thousands of mail-in votes left account. >> we can see the path ahead. we can see victory ahead -- >> thank you so much for all of your hard work. lisa: both fending off a late search from kathy barnett. whoever comes out on top will face off in november against pennsylvania's current lieutenant governor john federman who easily won the democratic primary. >> i would like to take a moment to address the elephant in the room. my husband john federman is not in the room tonight. >> federman remains in the hospital after suffering a stroke on friday. earlier on election day, he had
a pacemaker implanted and his campaign says he will be back on the trail soon. >> we do like to go to bed early and davie county. >> a different story for trump's pick in. >> that america first agenda led to historic job growth and prosperity for all americans. >> ted budd emerged from a crowded republican field that included a former governor and a former congressman. >> i am honored to be your nominee. >> democrats candidates will be cheri beasley, hoping to become the third black woman elected to the u.s. senate. as the tar heel state got closer to congress, someone was shown out. trump's endorsement could not save madison cawthorn who lost his primary. republicans instead chose state senar chuck edwards as their nominee. out west, a democratic incumbent is in trouble. kurt schrader endorsed by president biden who is trailing
environmentalist jamie cloud skinner. in idaho the trump endorsed lieutenant governor lost a challeng b he looswers republican incumbent governor brad little. next week, political attention turns south with a heated primary races in georgia. i'm lisa desjardins. judy: to help us break down more of last nights results, i am joined by david wasserman, the cooke political report with amy walter. and the editor at large of the nonprofit newsroom the 19th. welcome back to the newshour to both of you. dave,o ask about the influence of president trump. the candidates he endorsed. how did they do? not all of them won. dave: it was a mixed bag. and, regardless of whether president trump endorser did not endorse certain winners, the party is moving in his direction. madison cawthorn, who trump
endorsed, self sabotage his defeat in western north carolina but two other controversial republicans who are very pro maga won their primaries. there is still a chance that trump's preferred candidate dr. oz will sin the -senate primary- will win the senate primary in pennsylvania and the only two trump skeptics o did really well were mike simpson in idaho and brian fitzpatrick in pennsylvania who won primaries that largely escaped trump's radar. judy: what do you see here? because again, it is not only the candidates that former esident trump has endorsed, it is also the large number of republican candidates who say they don't believe or accept the 2020 election results. erin: that is absolutely right. look, the magaas still very
much in play particularly in pennsylvania where the philelphia inquirer said they declined to even endorsed candidates in the gop primary because they felt they could not because of the way that the -- politics were in the state. look, you have kathy barnett who ends up being a spoiler in that primary with oz and mccormick saying maga does not belong only to trump. and she is right. with or without his endorsement you saw there are people who are endorsed by trump -- that styl eof politics absolutely on display on the republican side in pennsylvania. doug mastery on all, the now republican nominee for the gubernatorial contest in pennsylvania was endorsed in the 11th hour by former president
trump. now, this is somebody who did not need the former president's endorsement. he was already looking like the nominee even without that, but it will be interesting to see how president trump really factors into the general election knowing how pivotal pennsylvania was in the 2020 elections. this could be a grudge match for the former president but the b lie absolutely on the ballot. with messiano being one of those who would have voted to solidify the election for president trump in 2020. judy: let's turn to the democrats. interesting that in some of these states it is themore progressive democrats who are waiting against the so-called establishment, mainstream democrats. what do you see going on? >> yeah, it was a mixed bag. there's no clear verdict on the
left or center fight of the democratic party. john federman perceived to be more progressive won comfortably the pennsylvania senate primary. you also had summer lee, a state representative ahead of the me moderate candidate for an open seat in pittsburgh. and that is a big win for progressives, and it looks like a blue dog conservative democrat kurt schrader in oregon will go down to defeat in his primary against a more progressive challenger jamie macleod skinner. i think tthe overall take away is that maybe democratic voters aren't subscribing to this framing. maybe they are voting for the candidates they personally like and trust without a big emphasis on ideology. judy: what do you see going on on the democratic side of the ledger? >> once again, you have just a question for democratic voters on what, do they want to go with more establishment folks or they want people -- pushing for
big systemic change. as they said in pennsylvania, you have -- had to build her own pipeline to get to where she is now. and federman who certainly seen as progressive candidate but is the sitting lieutenant governor who has won, the only candidate in that contest who had won statewide election. not necessarily somebody who is and outlier. literally the incumbent lieutenant governor but is redefining what blue collar is looking like, the new scranton in his contest -- cheri beasley, coming out of north carolina, somebody who has been a judge for 20 years and was the clear front runner in that contest, and then, but then you also had booker coming out of kentucky who will be facing rand paul for that senate seat. -- certainly somebody who is a
more progressive candidate who is wanting to swing big in terms of democratic priorities and not just the incremental change that i think that you saw a lot of folks was more the pragmatic and safer choice a couple years ago. judy: and dave wasserman, if we step back from it and we look at where these congressional races across the country, how they are shaping up with -- there are still primaries to go but at this pnt, what do you see? i think we have a map showing some redistricting results. so, maybe you can work that into your answer. >> that's right. when it rains for one-sided it pours. and democrats are clear underdogs to retain the majority in the house, and redistricting which looked like a silver lining in -- for them a couple months ago has shifted in republicans' direction and just
about everything has gone wrong for democrats and redistricting with a court striking down the gerrymander in new york which was going to potentially win them three additional seats, and just today a supreme court in kansas upholding a republican gerrymander which would give republicans an additional seat there. governor desantis in florida over powering his own legislator to pass an aggressive gerrymander there. on the whole, it looks like republicans might net two or three seats before you even factor in the political environment. we could be looking at a republican gate in the house of somewhere between 20 and 35 seats. judy: we've been hearing for sometime this is not a good year for democrats, but when you look at what is going on with redistricting, it makes that almost, it makes it a big mountain for them to climb. >> absolutely.
layer on top of that the voter suppression laws that are going to be in place headed into november. that is something that the party is concerned about. thinking about how to raise awareness and really educate voters who are wanting to be involved and making sure that theirote counts headed into november really kind of making sure that they galvanize not on ly the tnout but be made to feel their vote is actually going to matter. judy: well, it is only the middle of may. a long way to go but we do have some new numbers to look at. we thank you both for helping us understand what is going on. erin haynes, dave wasserman, thank youo much. >> thank you. ♪ judy: abortion access is now a
key issue in races across the country. since news the supreme court seems to be on the verge of overturning roe v. wade. but the stakes are especially nditvistsennsylvania wher etwo he issue will face off for governor in an election that will likely determine abortion law in the state. lisa desjardins is back now at some time she spent with voters and advocates across the political spectrum about how this issue is shaking up the race. lisa: in pennsylvania, energy and opportunity on both sides of one of the most of us have -- most divisive issues and politics. at the state capital they are gathering. >> we have been put on notice. everybody has been put on notice. lisa: fired up, kelly davis is heading to the statehouse. >> we're in a watershed moment again. lisa: she leads voices for
reproductive justice, a group focused on the health of black women and queer people. in the wake of the leak supreme court opinion she sees that at risk in her state as a battleground. >> americans generally think about abortion access or abortion restrictions, they think it is a southern issue. oh, that is mississippi or louisiana or at alabama but the most are coney in the legislation around abortion restrictions was proposed here in this state. >> she means the kcv planned parenthood case, the 1992 supreme court decision blocked pennsylvania restrictions and upheld the national right to abortion if abortion becomes a state-by-state issue, 26 states would likely ban or could impose new restrictions. pennsylvania is not one of them. the future of the issue here is to be determined. and to be fought. both sides of the debate have made the state a focal point.
this weekend, hundreds who want to keep abortion legal rallied passionately on the steps of the capital. she delivered a call to action. >> fight on and know deep down we will win! >> we're tired of this. we are ready to be heard. >> there is all this talk about what will happen in texas? it's going to happen in pennsylvania next year if we do not still have a democratic government. lisa: undercurrent l;aw abortion is legal up to 24 weeks of pregnancy but there is no question the republican legislator wants to change that. >> abortion access in pennsylvania will remain legal and safe as long as i am governor. so far tom wolf has stood in the way, vetoing tee bills sent to his desk but he is leaving office leaving voters with the stark high-stakes choice about who will succeed him. >> your rights are on the line.
lisa: on the left josh shapiro ran unopposed in the primary. he is best known for investigating abuse in the catholic church and defeating the trump campaigns voter fraud claims. he understands abortion is part of his race. >> the next governor will half on his desk a bill that bans abortion in the commonwealth of pennsylvania. i will veto that bill. lisa: shapiro is trying to expand the democratic map, campaigning at a brewery in deep red huntington county, his focus is on keeping abortion access where it is now. >> i want to protect pennsylvania law, but i want to protect the fundamental freedoms of pennsylvanians to be able to make decisions over their own bodies. >> before republic -- >> on the right the crowd a republican field for governor was united on abortion backing a near total ban. >> i have made exceptions for
the life of the mother. >> rape, incest and life of the mother only. >> i would not have any exceptions. lisa: yesterday republicans chose one of their most conservative candidates. doug mastriano, bolstered by a last-minute endorsement from former president donald trump. he's a consistent ardent fire brand who shot most press from campaign events. he falsely denies the 2020 election results and attended the january 6 rally in washington. >> we a here to change the course of history. lisa: he is one of the loudest voices against legal abortion sponsoring a ban starting at five or six weeks of pregnancy before many women know they are pregnant. >> we turn our back on the most foldable and let them be massacred in the womb. >> to what degrees do think this governor's will determine the future of abortion >> i think it is the most important race we have right now.
lisa: marlene is part of an invigorated anti abortion movement. she is a long-time believer that life begins at conception and ran a crisis pregnancy center. now she works for the susan b anthony list, and national anti-abortion group. today they are in a key philadelphia suburb knocking on doors. they aim to have personal conversations about abortion and hand o literature telling voters to reject candidates who support abortion rights like sapir. -- like shapiro. >> i have three boys. we were all literally just having this conversation in the kitchen the other night because of what has happened with the supreme court. >> she is a former democrat and once more abortion restrictions. >> i do believe in a woman's oice in certain instances but i believe in the baby. who stands up for the baby? >> she says that is why she is here and she has noticed a change in the past two wee. >> prior to the lake going to the doors i had people say abortion is notn the top of my
list. i haven't heard that lately. >> the two sides are intensely jockeying. >> i think there should be limitation. >> denise is a registered republican and mother who sympathizes with people. >> anyone going through an abortion, it is a very hard thing, it is a tough tough thing to have to live with that for the rest of your life. but i think you have to do what is right for you. but there suld be still some limitations. >> when would you like to see a change in pennsylvania on abortion? would you like more instructions? >> i would like to see 15 weeks as a restriction. >> on the ballot for governor will be a republican who wants a near ban on abortion and a democrat who wants to preserve current -- law at 24 weeks. >> maybe there are voters who would like to see a middle ground maybe that is what -- where voters are even in the
republican but that has not been on the table. >> what is on the table for pennsylvania are difficult, intense months ahead over abortion. >> i think this has the potential to unify at least on this on e issue certain subsets of society who previously thought of as having political agendas that were at odds. >> on both sides of people for or against abortion will actually make that an important topic for them, because they know that something very important to the people -- >> it is charging up everyone. >> the abortion issue is already electric. and the supreme court has yet to issue its final opinion. judy: lisa has since returned from pennsylvania. she joins us now. in your reporting you are noting intense what you called an intense political charge. did you get a sense these
disagreements might turn physical? lisa: not yet, but we did pick up on some notable changes here. kelly davis who runs new voices foreproductive justice that told me since the leaked opinion came out she and her staff has seen an uptick in racial slurs, racist language at them in person when they go to the door as well as online. she says they are now putting in place different kind of security protocols when they are out there trying to do their outreaches. and she says that this is the first time she has really felt a threat to her safety. at the same time i want to show you a photo of something that i saw at that rally in favor of abortion rights. that is judge alito, what is blurred out is his home address. this same person had a sign on the back of that, was justice kavanaugh's home address which also we have blurred out. this shows that the fight has
become personal at people in leadership role. we know that justice is on the supreme court, there is a sense they need more security around the building itself. and i think that we are in a charged atmosphere as everyone knows. it can be dangerous so the words that everyone on all sides uses and their actions going forward really will matter on how this goes. judy: such important reporting at this moment. lisa desjardins, just back from pennsylvania. thank you, lisa. ♪ new york's governor kathy hochul took steps today that she said was strength in the ates red flag law, after authority said the accused gunman and the buffalo massacre bought the weapon he used despite being held for a mental health evaluation last year. after saying he would commit
murder-suicide. this has raised questions about the effectiveness of laws designed to get weapons out of the hands of those who may be a threat to themselves or others. >> judy, when the accused gunman was evaluated, he said it was a joke to get out of class. authorities determined he was not dangerous and they never barred him from having a firearm under new york's red flag law. last november he began writing about his plans r a racists shooting spree. my parents do not know about the hundreds of dollars i have spent on ammo. they do not know ohio an -- i own an ar-15. is there a way to detect and deter a mass shooter before they act? jillian peterson is a forensic
psychologist and cofounder of the violence project which focuses on mass shootings and also an associate professor of criminology and criminal justice at hamlin university. thank you for joining us. the prosecutor in the county where the accused shooter went to high school defended the outcome of that mental evaluation by saying, that he di d not have a long history of mental illness. that this was the one isolated incident. what he said, and everything else we are learning, what does this say about the effectiveness of redlag laws? >> it is pretty complicated and we see this again and again in the life of perpetrators is that they are leaking their plans, actively suicidal and telling other people they are thinking about doing this and the intervention does not occur. so, i think it goes to show you can have these red like laws on -- red flag laws on the books,
that could be affected but you also have to have the training and the buy in from the community, law enforcement schools and families to really understand how they work and when they should be used. >> in this case also it seems like this was someone who was intent on being deceptive on on figuring out how to get out of having said this thing in high school about murder suicide. lying, he acknowledges lying to his parents. is someone who is intent on deceiving just going to get around these laws? >> it is hard to say. he can s he was joking but he still said it. we see that again and again is that people will say i am thinking about this and then when confronted they might cite, never mind -- might say, never mind it we do need more research i think into how to conduct interviews, what information you should be looking at and pulling out and h do you discern what is a hoax from something that is a realistic threat. even if it is not a threat today, it could turn into
something really year from now. i think we are still the research that area is still emerging. >> there was a justice department study that uses data tha tyour program, the violence project, generated that found from 1966 to 2019 77% of mass shooter got their weapons legally. what's going on? why is it so easy? >> it is a great question. we at the violence project tracked every gun that was used in every mass shooting going back to 19 626, looking at how it was obtained, when and how it was modified and what was shocking is how many of these perpetrators were able to purchase guns legally, even though they really should not have been able to. so, there were things like lying when doing a background check or the background check not being performed or crossing state lines where the age limits are different or maybe their history of a felony or psychiatric
hospitalization was not entered into the system correctly. so, you can see the system failures over and over again. a lot of them also purchase guns online or at gun shows or take them from their parents, ways where places -- >> i want you to expand and appoint you made earlier. the red flag laws were intended to detect and spot mass shooters before they acted. but clearly in this case, it did nowork. what is the fix? how can we detect and deter mass shooters before they act? >> it is a huge question so we published a book in the full called the violence project. we dove deep into all the data and we came out with 33 different potential solutions based on the data we had. none of them perfect on their own. stacked together you start to get somewhere. so, everything from kind of trauma screening in schools to crisis intervention and threat assessment teams, to better
relationships with mental health care providers to implementing red flag laws andniversal background checks. i think there is a lot of things we can be doing as individuals and institutions and as policymakers. it is just there is not one single thing that is going to fix this. it's really complicated. >> the new york governor asked the attorney general to investigate the social media platforms that had a role in this. he says he got radicalized on a website that's notorious as a breeding ground for conspiracy theories. talk a bit about the role of the internet and social media in this. >> we've seen mass shootings really increasing over the last 10 or even five years, and we think that part of the escalation is the role of social media. that you have individuals who are lost, depressed, hopeless, angry, suicidal, going online and they are able to find these darker communities where a lot of their thinking is validated. they are able to be radicalized
quickly. before the internet it was difficult to find all these people who were saying these horrific things but with the internet you can find them and be validated really easily. we also have cases of perpetrators even talking to other perpetrators inside of chat rooms before they do this. we also know that these shootings are meant to be watched and witness come away to y to make your grievance or your anger go viral. so, the internet there again playa huge role in being able to turn these perpetrators into these sort of notorious people that we all know. >> jillian peterson how the violence project, thank you very much. >> thank you. ♪ judy: last summer, taliban fighters swept through afghanistan and seized the
capital in weeks. how they were able to do so and why the afghan military collapsed so quickly has been debated ever since. today an inspector general released the first u.s. government report on what happened. it catalogs years of mistakes. >> over 20 years the u.s. spent $90 billion training afghan security forces and gave them 600,000 weapons and yet it took the taliban only 30 days last summer to capture all 34 provinces. the u.s. suffered what the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff called the defeat. why? the first report is from the special inspector general john sapko who joins me now. welcome back. you write quote "the single most important factor was the u.s. decision to withdraw military forces and contractors from afghanistan for the signing of the u.s. taliban agreement and for barry 2020 a president
biden's public address announcing the withdrawal." why? >> because it was a devastating impact on the morale of the army soldier. they felt abandoned by the u.s. and the allies, but basically the u.s. >> morale had been low before that. there were many soldiers who complained of were fighting for what was seen as a corrupt government and the taliban were fighting to evict foreign forces. >> it had been. it is not to say the afghans did not have problems before the training and the decision made by the biden administration but what happened was they felt essentially that the taliban had cut a deal with our government and to some extent their own government and they were left in the lurch the average afghan soldier was being told by his leadership out in the provinces that deals had been cut. >> part of the agreements were withdrawing contractor
specifically. you quote a former u.s. commander telling you that pulling contractors out was like pulling all of the sticks out of the jenga pile and expecting it to stay up. why were the afghans so dependent on contractors? >> because we had given them equipment, highly sophisticated american equipment, and they weren't capable of maintaining that equipment by themselves. >> and that is indicative of a larger problem in the long term of what's been called mirror imaging, creating the afghan forces ithe guise of u.s. forces, not only the weapons but the structure of the army itself. how fatal do you think was that decision? >> that was a fatal flaw. that was something that had been identified. particular in the area of logistics. logistics were horrible. and, although we gave them a lot of weapons and bullets and material, if there is no way to get it to the troops, then the troops will die. >> was there alternative? could the u.s have built an
afghan military less mirror imaged? >> it could've happened or we could've spent more time building capability and that was another problem that we identified in the report that we had a short turnaround on ou personnel being there, a short turnaround o n our plans and strategy. we did not have a 20 year strategy. we had basically ten two year strategies and we were always rushing to get out. and every administration wanted to get out, and the strategy was based on getting out in the next two years. what happens is you ignore things like developing the operations and the maintenance that keeps an army functioning. >> you mentioned the afghan government. let's talk about their errors. you say he appointed loyalists and also failed to create a national security plan. how important were those mistakes? >> appointing loyalists, he
replaced western trained, educated and identified and recruited -- we had identified these a commanders but he got rid of them because he did not trust them. he became like one of the afghan senior generals told us, paranoid, he was afraid of a coup. he eliminated them and replace them with incompetent loyalists. toward the end he was replacing them with former soviet era generals who had not seen service for 20 years. they were totally incompetent. we say in a report ghani and his circle of friends never thought the u.s. government would pull the trigger and leave. so, they never planned for it. >> one of the factors we have spoken about over the years that contributed to what happened at the end of this war, with civilian deaths. do you think that helped contribute to the long-term failure? >> i think so.
i am not the only one. i think some of the senior military officials we have talked to have said every time we did a bombing raid and we killed the wrong people we created 10 more taliban. that was happening all over the country. it really got worse after the u.s. stopped their air missions and was basically afghans. the afghans were not as skilled. they were sloppy and they killed a lot of innocent afghan men, women and children and just drove the rest of the people, their family members and survivors into the taliban's grasp. >> in six weeks, it will have been 10 years since you started this job and you have written scores of reports, reports that you and your staff have argued and been largely ignored by some senior military leaders. do you fear the u.s. is destined to make the same mistakes again >> i hate to say yes.
the senior leaders will tell you we will never do it again. that's exactly what we said after vietnam. we're never going to do it again but we did. we did it in iraq and afghanistan and we are starting to do it in countries in africa. it is a slippery slope when you art sending in u.s. military, u.s. military equipment and start trying to re-create our country's government in our image and all of a sudden we will find ourselves in the same thing. not saying we do not need to send troops into certain areas around the world. bu let's think about what we are doing first. let's learn some lessons. we have a 20 year long petri dish and we can see what happens when we do not listen to lessons from the past. >> thank you very much. >> pleasure. ♪ judy: the u.s. socce federation
announcedr an historic tale to ensure equal pay between the men's and women's players. u.s. soccer becomes the first national team to equalize pay and bonuses in the sport, including for world cup play. jeff bennett has details. >> for years the pay disparities between the men's and the more successful women's teams have been the source of lawsuits and disputes. the women's team has won four world cups and four olympic gold medals. the u.s. men have not won a medal in the modern era and have not been to the olympics since 2008. but now the u.s. soccer team will pool all of the pay and divided equally. for some perective, i am joined by the two time olympic gold medalist and a world cup champion and the author of the book "my greatest save, the barrier breaking journey of a world champion goalkeeper." so great to have you here with
us. thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having me, it is fantastic. >> u..s. soccer is doing something no other soccer federation does -- pulling this money between the men's and women's and splitting it equally. this is been a long time coming. from where you sit, what was the tipping point? >> well, first of all, it has been a long time coming. it has been almost three decades in its fight. so, i think with the tipping point was was actually two fold. one was cindy parlo cohn, a former teammate of mine, becoming the president and she played 10 years and understood the problem and really wanted to make a difference and make it happen. and she w able to convince the board of the u.s. soccer federation and also bring together the men's players and have the two teams discuss it and everybody be on board, and i think the collaboration initiative that she brought forward was really the thing that made it happen. >> you are easily one of the
best gold papers -- goalkeepers in soccer history and you sacrificed a lot for the sport. you suffered a brain injury in 2010 that cut short your career. taking all of that into consideration, how do you feel in this moment? are you excited or not so excited because it should not have taken this long? >> that is a fantastic question. when i found out about this morning, i was thrilled, because it has been such a long road. fighting for something for 25, 30 years, you really start to think it is not ever going to happen. sure enough here it is. and it is true equal pay. it is not just some kind of makeshift situation to make i seem that way. you have agreement on both sides. you have exactly what is going to happen in this agreement. and you have a great time for this to happen right now. i'm just really happy. i'm so proud of all of the players like myself who laid the foundation in the cba's from the past and the current players who
took it to another level by doing lawsuits and that really helped the ball move as well. i'm really excited we are finally there. >> i was struck by something i found in my research that the men's world cup winner in 2018, france, took home $38 million. the u.s. women when they won took home $4 million. >> yes. therein lies the rub. that was a world cup pay disparity was the main issue that was at hand. the u.s. soccer federation could not do what fifa would not do by how much they paid, and so i think cindy cohn was his to mental in going to the men's players, walker zimmerman, one of the leaders of that team and saying, how can we make this better? are you in? and they had many discussions. did not just roll over and say sure. but they did the right thing and decided to have a more unified front. >> we have a minute and a half
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