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♪ judy: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight -- under attack -- apparent russian shelling of schools in northern ukraine highlights the heavy toll the war is taking on children, and on families who are being torn apart. >> that we are not together, that our family isn't together. this is very difficult. we're used to being together all the time. and the war has separated us. judy: then -- a critical shortage -- parents nationwide struggle with a lack of baby formula caused by a recall and the ongoing pandemic. and it's friday -- jonathan capehart and gary abernathy weigh in on the president's push for more covid funding and on the january sixth committee's decision to subpoena republican lawmakers.
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e dow jones industrial average gained 466 points, 1.5%, to close near 32,200. the nasdaq rose almost 4%. the s&p 500 jumped 2%. for the week, the indexes fell between 2% and 3%. after nearly 80 days of fighting, russian forces are still trying to break through in eastern ukraine. the ukrainian army says it turned back two attacks in the donbas region today. meanwhile, the european union announced another $500 million to help ukraine buy heavy weapons. we'll return to the war, after the news summary. u.s. basketball star brittney griner will spend another month in pre-trial detention in russia. she's been held since february, when russian authorities said they found cannabis oil in her luggage. griner appeared in a moscow court today. her attorney said he hopes her trial will begin soon.
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>> today, at the end of the investigative actions, the pre-trial detention was extended for a month, which means that we can expect that the final charge will be brought soon and the case will be sent to court. judy: if convted, she could spend 10 years in a russian prison. the u.s. ste department says she was wrongfully detained and it is trying to win her release. south korea today offered medical supplies to north korea to help control an apparent covid-19 outbreak. and russia said it will consider any north korean requests for vaccines. thursday, the north state media reported at least six deaths had occurred and 350,000 infections with an unspecified fever. in jerusalem, violence erected for the funeral for an al jazeera reporter. police charged and beat mourners
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outside a hospital and pallbearernearly drops the coffin. they said the crowd disrupted the agreed-upon plans, chanted nationalist songs and threw rocks. the incident drew strong reactions from the european union, united nations and in washington at the white house. >> we have all seen those images and they are obviously deeply disturbing. thiss a day we should be marking, including everyone there, the memory of a remarkable journalist lost her life. we regret to the intrusion into what should've been a peaceful procession. judy: she was killed wednesday covering an arrest raid in the occupied west bank. witnesses said israeli troops shot her and the israelis say it is unclear. in a new rate today, and is really commando shot and killed in a gun battle with palestinians. back in this country, elon musk delaying his plan to buy twitter for $44 billion. he tweeted today the deal is
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temporarily on hold pending details on whether spam and fake accounts really represent less than 5% of twitter users. that estimate affects the company's value and selling price. he tweeted later he is still committed to the deal. former national security advisor robert mcfarland has died after suffering a long ailment. he was heavily involved in the so-called iran-contra scandal during the reagan presidency. it involved selling arms to iran , with proceeds going to anti-communist guerrillas. he was the only one who voluntarily accepted legal blame. he was 84 years old. queen elizabeth made her first public appearance in weeks amid speculation about her health. she attended the royal winds are horse show today, arriving by car and then walking to her box. earlier this week, she missed
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the opening of parliament. the queen is 96 and her 70 for the anniversary on the throne is next month. still to come, how an image of a black hole at the center of our galaxy marks a new era for space science. former presidential advisor discusses his new book on leadership. we remember some of the one million americans lost to the ongoing pandemic. plus much more. >> this is the pbs newshour from weta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. judy: for the first time since russia's invasion of ukraine, the u.s. secretary of defense spoke with his russian counterpart today, calling for an immediate cease-fire. that is according to the pentagon. nearly three months into the war, much of the focus is on the eastern donbas, but there is a
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southern front where russia made early gains. the fighting continues in this region, and as elsewhere, stuck in the middle are families struggling to stay united. nick schifrin reports from southern ukraine. nick: at a center for families who fled their homes, the kids are alright. 9-year-old kyrylo, his younger brother, 8-year-old andriy, and their baby sister in the pink sweater, 6-year-old anna. the city created this play area the day the war ben. the clothes they wear, the toys they play with, the stuffed animals that line the shelves, all donated. it's not home, but it's a space where boys can be boys, and even sit down when their mother liliya tells them to. how are your children doing these days? >> they're fine, thank god. at first, they were stressed. but then they got used to being here, and now feel fine.
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nick: they feel fine thanks in part to the center's psychologist, lidiya kuryatnykova. she uses drawings to measure a child's trauma. >> children mirror what their parents feel. if the parents are worried and anxious, and sw that, children reflect it. nick: the parents arrive in volodymyr zelenskyy's hometown from nearby villages, needing everything. they're greeted with bags of food, racks of clothes, and boxes of shoes, organized by size. oleksandr vilkul was appointed mayor after the russian invasion. in a side room, they sing a song of longing, missing the homes from which they fled. what are they fleeing from? >> the idp's who come here are running from hell. the information we received from people in occupied territories, executions, torture, and rape are standard practice.
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today the russians behave thselves worse than nazi germany during world war ii. nick: that's what lila and her kids feared. but her husband had to stay behind. >> i'm very worried about him. but we have no way out of this situation. i don't know. nick: how difficult for you have the last few weeks been? >> that we are not together, that our family isn't together. this is very difficult. we're used to being together all the time, and the war has separated us. nick: we decided to try and find her husband. we traveled 30 miles south, down rutted roads. the ukrainins bombed the nearby bridge, so the only way in is across the inhulets river. on the other side, the kherson region, most of which russia still occupies. and waiting for us, liliya's husband stanislav.
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stanislav and liliya both grew up here in zahradivka. before the war, it had 800 residents. today, no more than 30. >> a woman was killed in this house. she was in her yard and the grad rocket hit there, and she got killed. nick: in mid-march, russian troops in red seized the city of kherson, and pushed right to the edge of zahradivka. they lobbed artillery, and ukrainian and russian soldiers traded small arms fire. a russian shell flew through the roof of the school auditorium, that three months ago was full of children. the family's farm is down the road. this is where his wife grew up, where they moved in together after they married, the only home their children have known. as a couple, they've never spent more than a day apart. stanislav wants to show me the reason his family fled -- the russian roet that landed in their backyard. and where were you where it landed? >> it was in the evening. approximately at 7:00 p.m.
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i heard the sounds of the grad rocket. and i shouted. nick: the wall between the impact site and the house whe his kids were eating, now pierced by shrapnel. >> i haven't seen them for a month. i don't have gas to go and see them because the gas stations are empty. so i can't go there. immediately, the day after the attack, i took them out of here, and they haven't been back since. nick: in the middle of their property, where the family was forced to hide. so this is the cellar? it's actually a food storage turned shelter, with a child-size, makeshift bed in the corner. they could always hear the fighting above. >> the bullets whistled by here. it was scary. we got really scared for our kids. ck: he's collected all the
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shrapnel that littered the farm, some of which landed just in the last few days. so this is your home. and inside the house, past the window broken by shrapnel, is his children's room. the bunk beds krylyo and andrii have shared since they were born, and their toys mixed in with anna's, untouched for a month. >> it was always noisy here, and now it's quiet. nick: tell me about the future. what do you hope for, your future and your family's future? >> i hope the victory will come soon. and that our family will be together again. this is my dream. nick: but for now it is a dream deferred, and a family that remains separated. for the pbs newshour, i'm nick schifrin in zahradivka, ukraine. judy: so hard to see.
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and a note that our coverage of the war in ukraine is supported in partnership with the pulitzer center. ♪ the shortage of baby formula has grown into a major challenge for parents all around the country. today, president biden defended the administration's response, saying his team responded as soon as it understood the problem. although it began months ago. when pressed on whether he could have acted more quickly, the president said, "if we had in better mind readers, i guess we could have." we look at the latest, what the administration is doing and how parents are coping. reporter: judy, 40% of formula is out of stock in stores nationwide, a 20-fold increase since this time last year. supply chain disruptions, inflation and a recall by one of
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the biggest producers have worsened the shortage. parents are struggling. here's some of what they told us. >> the baby formula shortage came to my attention a few months ago when there was a big recall for a lot of formula products we use for our no seven-month-old. we switch to a formula that was really common, which made it easy to find online, virtually any store we went to. today with the shortage, it has become really competitive. >> i feel like the shortage has been heightened. we are here in puerto rico, so not only do we have the shortage is on the shelves but also the transit times for new formula to arrive on the island has been extended. >> i haven't been able to produce as much milk as he eats so i've been supplement and with formula, and the shortage has greatly impacted our family. without it, we would not be able to feed him properly. >> my daughter was on the
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standard formula you should be able to find easily in stores and we were not able to. it was completely empty shelves. we ended up taking a financial hit and signing up for subscription formula. >> i'm sending out family and friends, especially those in other states, telling them to keep and i out for the particular brand we use antitype we use. >> right now we are working on getting my friend from canada to brg down the equivalent of the formula he takes, which unfortunately is only one. >> i've been playing -- paying a lot more, so on top of the formula costs, shipping through the post office because they treat puerto rico like a state, where is if it is shipped by ups or fedex, they treat puerto rico as international shipping. >> hopefully for all of us, formula will be more abundant in places, especially rural places where people cannot go to cities or access supplies on the
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internet. meantime, there are a lot of mom groups online you can join and contact, and people like me have been posting where we find certain formulas. >> sometimes it seems like we are not getting support from the places where we should be getting it. moms are there to help each other. that is powerful. moms i think keep the world going. i think we could solve any problem. i think we should be in charge of the world for a few days and see how much we get done. reporter: the white house announced three steps yesterday to address the shortage. it said it would urge states to expand the options for parents receiving federal wic benefits to buy baby formula. the president is also asking the federal trade commission -- or ftc -- and state attorneys general to crack down on price gouging. and the fda will take new measures to increase imports in the future. joining me now is brian dittmeier, he's the senior director of public policy for the national wic association. wic serves about half of all infants born in the united
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states. brian, thank you for joining us. we just heard from parents who are really struggling to access and afford formula. what advice do you have? brian: we know this is an extra nearly stressful time for parents and we keep hearing stories of parents who have to go five or six stores before they find a can of formula. some of the advice we have is around mitigatn strategies. identifying where in your community there is a supply. it could very because this is a highly localized issue. it may be the store one day, and a couple days later it could be a food bank. an important piece to also be mindful of is to avoid risky infant feeding practices that could lead to long-term health consequences for your infant. stay away from homemade formula recipes, do not dilute your formula and do not introduce cows milk befo year one.
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reporter: the white house has been under pressure, especially since recall that trigger the shortage happened three months ago already. do you think the white house has done enoug brian: i think the white house has been leading a great effort from day one of this recall, and while there are a lot of steps that have been taken and steps that will be taken in the next couple of days, i think one of the most concerning pieces is how highly centralized of infant formula marketplace is. they are only four companies that command about 90% of the domeic infant formula supply. we need to take a look, a hard look at this industry and ask ourselves the question of why did we let one plant closing for a food safety issue for a couple of weeks result in this level of disruption to the marketplace and the consumers for an essential product? reporter: as we mentioned, half of the nations infants receive wic benefits.
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prior to the shortage, recipients could only access one brenda formula depending on the state. i understand some programs have already taken steps to expand those options. what have they done and wha additional effects, if any, will this announcement white house put out yesterday have? bria it is a curious question. why we allow wic families to only have access to e brand of infant formula in the first place. we know there are a number of steps put in place to expand the brands and container sizes available to customers. i think one of the messages coming out of usda consistently through the product recall is we have to take every flexibility possible to make sure the wic consumer is treated like any other member of the shopping public. reporter: many states have already expanded eligibility, they did it shortly after the recall was announced and shortages began to manifest themselves. brian: it has been a holistic
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effort. usda has been working from day one to enact what flexibilities exist, but one of the pieces we recognize as well is the program was not necessarily built for this moment. we also, again, we are really focused on market consolidation. i think that is the concerning factor. the wic program could use whatever flexibilities it has, he could use flexibilities built into it, but if we don't have a resilient supply chain moving forward, we will not be able to serve the needs of all infants in this country, but particularly infants in low income families. reporter: in terms of expanding access to imports, which the white house also has said it wants to do, what options are there given how stringent u.s. regulations are? brian: i'm excited to see what fda announces, but infant formula has been manufactured
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domestically largely because of rules around product safety. there is one lesson we've learned throughout this recall, we have to put the safety of this product first. i think as we explore what flexibility exists as far as imports, we need to be mindful of keeping that guiding principle of safe but accessible infant formula for all of the infants in this country. reporter: brian, thank you for your time. ♪ judy: for decades, scientists have believed there is a black hole at the center of our galaxy, the milky way. yesterday for the first time, they released a photograph of it -- an astonishing sight. its shadow is surrounded by light that is being bent by immense gravity coming from the black hole. and it is just about 27,000
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light years away from earth. miles o'brien is here to explain some of the mysteries around all of this. miles, tell us of the significance of this image. miles: it is our black hole. we've seen a picture of a black hole before, a picture of a larger black hole in 1987 and 2019, but this one is at the center of ougalaxy. while it might look benign, there is a lot going on. the gases spinning around the black hole at impulsively difficult speeds to comprehend. it has a mass that is 4 million times our sun. researchers were saying as they were looking at it, they could see it moving in minutes time. they described it as burbling and gurgling. it is a crazy place to be. if we work there, we would be
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spaghetti-fied. it is a mean place in the galaxy , a tough neighborhood, but important to who we are. judy: how were they able to get this image in the first place? miles: they have a telescope the size of earth. i know that doesn't sound logical. they connected eight telescopes all over the planet in pairs and madeure they took observations at exactly the right moment. synchronized with atomic clocks. then they compiled all of that data, collated all of that information, and used an algorithm to fill in the gaps. it's kind of like, you can imagine a piano keyboard with some keys missing. if you can fill in enough of the keys, you can figure out the tuna. they figured out the tune. it is quite in a of engineering.
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judy: for the scientists, what makes this so fascinating to them? do we worry about earth getting sucked into this black hole? miles: no, we are in a safe neighborhood. don't worry about that one. but it is fascinating. first of all, this is probably the strongest proof yet of einstein's theory of relativity, which goes back to 1915. he theorized these things existed, and for the longest time we looked and looked and didn't see them. 1974, scientists found the spot it was likely to be in now w can finally see it. that gives us this amazing validaon of a scientific theory in addition to being pretty cool on top of that. the other thing they found that was interesting, it matched in ma ways the image of the other black hole.
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it has the same doughnut pattern. it tells them that what they saw initially was not a fluke or coincidence. now they've seen and extorted nearly big black hole, and they have seen hours, a more run-of-the-mill black hole. judy: now that scientists have this, what is next? miles: we've got the selfie, next is the movie. they will try to expand the number of telescopes on the surface of the earth so they can have another opportunity to image this black hole and others in greater detail. enough detail to capture the motion, a sickly that the time exposure was long enough that the motion around it, the gases spinning around the black hole was blurred. it is like shooting a waterfall on a time exposure. with a few more telescopes on the surface of earth, they should be able to freeze the action and create movies.
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maybe someday, they hope we can put paired telescopes into space, which would be much further apart and create a much bigger lens virtually, and who knows what we will find then. judy: miles o'brien, thank you very much. ♪ david gergen is known to many viewers of this program as a long time friday night commentator on the newshour. but he is perhaps best known for his role serving as an advisor to four american presidents, nixon, ford, reagan and clinton. i spoke with david earlier this week about his new book, "hearts touched with fire: how great leaders are made." welcome to the newshour and congratulations on the book. there is a lot to ask about. your advice for young people i want to get to the headline,
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which is telling older people essentially to get out of the way. you say it is time for people driving the bus to return the keys. david: i believe that. first of all, thank you, it feels like coming home being with you like this. i think it is very clear now that the generation, the world war ii generation, did a terrific job and we always look back at them as the role model, the gold standard. they gave the baton to the baby boom generation. and frankly, as there are many good people who are baby boomers , fine public servants, but as a whole, the generation has been a disappointment. by contrast to the world war ii generation, which left behind in america that was the strongest since the days of ancient rome, culturally, militarily, economically. contrast that with the legacy of
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the baby boomers -- crisis on crisis we haven't solved. actions we haven't taken. there is a real growing sense now that the path we are on is unsustainable and we have to get back to being strong like the world war ii generation. judy: what would that mean for the two men who are the most powerful in our country right now, president biden and former president donald trump, who is by all accounts likely to challenge him? david: i think is much as we don't like to talk about age, age is an issue if those are the nominees. we would have a bite and and trunk, one of them would win and the winner would become the president with what is the hardest job in the world, with health that is unreliable and a vulnerability out there and potential weaknesses. i think it is inappropriate, i think people like biden and trump ought to both step back
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and open the door to younger people from the next generations to serve as president. we just cannot take the risks involved, especially on health. judy: and we should say, president biden is 79 in former president trump is 75. if they did step aside, there will be a free-for-all. david: there would be. judy: you could be -- there are any number of scenarios but you could be looking at a match between florida governor ron desantis and say, elizabeth warren of msachusetts. david: it may sound unfair that they should step back but i think for the good of the country it is needed and it would be healthy if we had different candidates with different perspectives. we should welcome diversity in politics. i don't think we ought to be afraid of it, i think we ought to see it as something appropriate in a democracy, when this is -- the office of the
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presidency is the most complex and yet the most powerful, and it requires a keen sense of judgment. i just turned 80 and can tell you, you lose a step. you are not as sharp, you're more forgetful, you're not quite sure where you are going. that is too old to be in the presidency. judy: let's apply this to congress. nancy pelosi is 80 years old. but she shows no signs of slowing down, in fact she is given credit right now for holding her party together in ways that members of congress say few others could do that. would it be better for her to step aside even if you did not know who could take over? david: remember a couple of years ago, she said she was gonna step down. she wasn't afraid of it. she has been a little less obvious sense than about what her intentions are. but both she and senator
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mcconnell, also 80 years old, i think it is important to people not be clinging to power but yet try to nourish and improve and help the younger generations. we have some splendid people in those younger generations. judy: even if it leaves chaos? david: i don't think it leaves chaos, i think it is an orderly transition to the next generation. judy: as you look around the country today, whoo you see as potentially promise? david: there are two streams i see, one is made up of veterans coming back from iraq and afghanistan, and i've been involved in efforts to persuade them to run on both sides of the aisle and that is beginning to take hold in congress. some will be vulnerable in the midterm election because they do come from purple districts. we have to see what happens did but i think overall, they impressed me so much. they are like the world war ii generation and i am a big fan of
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some of them. they are not all terrific. a lot of millennials are seen as arrogant and difficult. they act as if they are entitled. but there is another stream want to mention, less notice, and that is people of color, who i think are coming together, especially black women, they have taken the moral high ground with the #metoo movement and black lives matter. i don't agree with the politics, they are to the left of me, but i celebrate that they are in their arena and working for change. judy: last question, how many of these baby boomers and even a silent generation like president biden, you expect will take your advice? david: i'm sure there will be resistance. judy: the book is hearts touched with fire: how great leaders are made. thank you. david: thank you. ♪
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judy: as the united states marks one million deaths from the pandemic it, president biden has asked congress to approve new money to fight future coronavirus variants. the spending has been stalled for weeks. meanwhile, the january 6 committee issued subpoenas to five republican lawmakers. that brings us to the analysis of pay part d abernathy. that is jonathan capehart from the washington post, and there abernathy, a washington post columnist. david brooks is away. hello to both of you on this friday night. the subject is grim. but i do want to start by asking you where we are on covid. w■e are at one milliondeathswe are also bird by that. we are hearing from experts that
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there could be another 100 million infections -- i am sorry, yes, 100 million infections coming. the administration is saying we need between 10 and $20 million, $1 billion, to deal with covid. other good arguments against that? jonathan: no, no. can we just pause a moment and understand we have lost one million americans. i d't know what the particular folks on capitol hill, what other evidence they need to see for why that funding needs to be passed. think about how much pain and death and agony the american people have suffered. not just the one million people who died, but their families and loved ones and colleagues. there is going to be another. for the u.s. to be prepared for that moment, to do everything
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possible to forestall another 100 million infections, that would be a dereliction of duty. in march 2020, we had no vaccines, we did not know what this was, everything was shut down just to try to stop this viru this thing from spreading. we know so much more two years later. we've got vaccines, boosters. why on earth would we not do everything possible to ensure we don't go back to those horrible days two years ago? judy: what is the argument? republicans are resisting the funding. what are the good arguments not to give it? gary: it's hard to come up with good arguments not to offer a life-saving vaccine, but when you talk about what happened two years ago and how it happened, you've got to remember, we took a one-size-fits-all approach to fighting this nationwide. i know communities that got a
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tremendous influx of covid money and could not figure out how to spend it all. it was kind of a, let's throw a lot of money out there. this is not a republican or democrat criticism, donald trump was a part of this and approving these things. now some people are starting to say wait a minute, where is our priority list? where is this on president biden's list of priorities? is it above ukraine, is it above helping ukraine or the build back better program or forgiving student loans? maybe. for me i think providing the vaccines is but we get to a point where the money doesn't exist and we don't have this money to spend. i think people are asking the president, come up with priorities, and i think he does have a plan that says ok, now we
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will prioritize people. we will provide vaccines may be just to the most at risk people, 60 and over, with immune issues. judy: what about the argument that some of the money was spent and it is not clear where it went, or it went in other directions? jonathan: sure, but that's not an argument to do nothing. you do better the next time. the idea that because some money went somewhere it shouldn't have gone, we shouldn't prepare and protect against a future variant, i think is ridiculous. also, more money to ukraine -- i wrote down politics, because folks are playing politics with the money for ukraine and it is clear why that money is needed. it is for ukraine, but it is really for the fight for democracy. some of the same folks who are complaining about the covid money are some of the same people complaining or stalling
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funding for ukraine. to bring it back to covid funding, the administration and basically washington cannot not do anything, cannot not prepare for what is to come. judy: how much of this is politics and how much is based on legitimate argument? gary: in washington? judy: i know. gary: right, all of it. even on ukraine, the associated pressure -- press a couple of weeks ago talked about there is coming a point where much can we give? every buddy wants to help ukraine, it is a most worthy cause, but we are depleting our own resources and there are questions about our ability to defend ourselves against a north korea or iran if something were to happen. there is a limited supply of these things. people are starting to now take a look and say we would love to
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do it all, but we have to start prioritizingnd figuring out, because really this is money that just doesn't exist. judy: and of course ukraine, we don't know how long that will go on, it could be months or years. the january 6 committee, they have issued more subpoenas. this time to five house republicans, including the minority leader, kevin mccarthy. he has indicated he is not particularly excited about going. what does this lead to, asking for their own membership to testify? jonathan: let's ke something in mind. when someone is subpoenaed, that is an extra ordinary step. when that person is a sitting member of congress in an investigation on the capital and american democracy, it is a serious step, but it is not the first step.
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the first step was asking kevin mccarthy and some of the others to come in voluntarily and do their duty as a member of congress but also as a patriot. the come in and talk about what they know and to help fill in the gaps, to help that committee and the american people by extension, to understand what happened on that day as a means of preventing it from happening again. they refused. subpoena is an extra ordinary step, but it needs to be done, the attack on the capitol was an attack on the american people in our democracy and we need answers. judy: how do you look on these subpoenas? gary: i agree 100% that we need answers, that would happened on generally six was one of the most horrible things in our nations history. i think we've already had a lot of answers. i think answers are coming in many ways, including through law enforcement with the people
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charged. one thing i know a lot of people are worried about is conflating the peaceful rally that day with the riot. there's a lot of talk about did you help plan this rally, did you -- and plning the rally was fine. it's the few hundred that broke off and invaded the capitol that are being prosecuted, but i think the committee risks partisan suspicions. i think people in a 30 made up their mind about whether this committee is going to uncover anything without a bombshell relevant -- revelation. if the committee says here is a bombshell revelation about what was really behind this and what the intent was and it rocks the whole world, both sides of the aisle, that will be one thing. short of that, i think people have already settled on their talking points and what they will come out with at the end of the day when this officially wraps up. judy: you have committee members
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saying there is eye-popping, big information to come, from what they have discovered. jonathan: i hope it is eye-popping. i also hope the information, even if it is stuff we already know, even if it is stuff we have read about, that we have listened to with some of the audio recordings, that we have not become numb to the seriousness of the information we are getting. and that it is important an investigative body with subpoena power and the ability to write a report, to put on hearings for the american people to see, to bring in witnesses, show them what people are doing and saying , how this thing got planned, and yes, we need to know how the rally got organized and how some of these people went to the capital and ransacked the catal and tried to attack democracy. i don't want us to lose sight of the fact that even if we read some of this stuff on the front
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page of the washington post or we watched news reports here at pbs newshour, that it's not important. judy: it's almost a year and half later. gary: what we know, the rally happens. what we know is that enough. donald trump stood up at a rally and said if you don't fight for your country, you will not have a country. and basically pointed them to the capital, where his own vice president was overseeing the count of electoral votes in a constitutional process to certify the election for joe biden. that is bad enough how much more bad things do we need to come out, for enough people to say trump is responsible for what happened? jonathan: it would be helpful if house minority leader kevin mccarthy would tell the american people what he told the president in those moments. it will be hopefully if jim jordan, he wants to be the next judiciary committee chair in the house, what he said to the president when he talked to him
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probably multiple times that day. that is important to know. it's not a partisan issue, it should be a patriotism issue. our country was under attack and it could happen again. which is why that committee is in place. judy: his point is maybe there is culpability on the part of these members. gary: again, a fine line. you're talking about fellow members of congress. there is a fine line between saying things -- we know a lot of the conversations were to try to get trump to take action to calm things down, to put an end to this thing. who knows what they said to try to appeal to him and his ego to make that happen. would it be interesting? yes. i just think a lot of it is being found out in other ways and the committee needs to be careful when it comes to subpoenaing members of congress could republicans will likely control congress after november,
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and what goes around comes around. you have to be careful how you treat fellow members of congress. jonathan: they've already said if they come into power in the house, there will be investigations galore. the white house is already preparg for that. gary: we need to back off from those vendettas. [laughter] jonathan: oh gary. judy: we thank you both. thank you very much. ♪ with covid-19 now claiming one million lives in the united states, we want to pause to acknowledge this moment and remember some of the americans who lost their lives to this virus since the pandemic began. 61-year-old quinsey simpson, a correctional officer at new york's rikers island, was known
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for his calm demeanor, great sense of humor, and hard work ethic. when he contracted covid-19, quinsey called in sick for only the second time in his 18 years on the job. he was a mentor to the basketball players he coached, neighborhood school kids, and his 6-year-old son, ayden. hatsy yasukochi was the heart of her family-run bakery in san francisco. she knew her customers by name, and often their orders by heart. a proud mother and grandmother, hatsy displayed family photos on the bakery walls and loved taking silly snapchats with her five grandchildren. as a young girl, hatsy's family was imprisoned in internment camps during the second world war. her daughters say that experience gave her the perseverance she would later rely on to battle cancer. she was 80 years old.
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arlene saunders was as captivating as her soprano opera voice. born and raised in cleveland, ohio, arlene spent most of her career in germany, performing with the hamburg state opera on stage and on television. she would go on to sing at the biggest opera house in the world, the met. down-to-earth and elegant, arlene moved to new york in 1986, where she married the man she loved to dance and sing with, raymond raskin. arlene was 89 years old. barry webber was a renaissance man, a new york city surgeon who could build cars and computers, and also loved the ballet and classical music. his wife, harriet, says he was quiet and mysterious, but confident in the emergency and operating rooms, and a great
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teacher. he shared his love for rock climbing with his two boys, duncan and michael. barry was 67 years old. margie kidd was in her 40's when she went back to school to become a teacher. she had a gift for holding the attention of her kindergartners and first-graders in ridgeland, south carolina, and regularly said that learning should always be fun. she'd wake up early, by 6:00 a.m. each day, and send silly memes to her daughters and grandchildren, along with messages of love and advice. >> just remember what i taught you, to become a better woman, you must believe in yourself, you must do better, and you must help others. judy: margie was 71 years old.
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freddie perez de tagle loved to sing, whether in his church choir or just answering the phone, his son told us. he moved from the philippines to toledo, ohio in his twenties to be with his wife, priscilla. a dedicated grandfather, freddie loved the outdoors and camping. he also had a lifelong interest in fashion. his family said he took pride in choosing what to wear every day. frede was 67 years old. melvin greennagel lived a long, full life of music, service and family. raised on a farm in metamora, illinois, he played tuba in the u.s. army band during world war ii, and was the last living member of the band that marched under the arc de triomphe on victory in europe day, 1945. it's after the war, melvin
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married and settled in arlington, virginia, where he continued to play music for the u.s. army and raise a family. his granddaughter told us he was a calming presence who embraced the quiet moments, and, in retirement, loved nurturing his grandchildren, basset hounds, and many plants. he died at age 103. mary beth nolan's parenting and teaching philosophy was to let children learn by making their own choices and mistakes, her family said. she applied this when homeschooling her three children , then as an elementary school science teacher in houston, texas. mary beth was also a lifelong learner, her sister said. at 50, she gained a master's degree in educational technology and she was instrumental in transitioning her school to virtual learning during the pandemic. she lived with chronic pain from rheumatoid arthritis but never
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complained, her daughter said. mary beth died two weeks before her 60th birthday. 77-year-old roselyn knox was the backbone of her family, and trusted confidant for many others her son said. born in ohio, roselyn grew up in colorado and played violinn the all-state orchestra. she moved with her husband, sylvester, to military bases he was stationed on across the country and globe. eventually they settled in tacoma, washington with their two children. faith was central to roselyn's life. she volunteered at her church for decades and founded a christian nonprofit focused on connecting women with the gospel online. yvonne brown loved poetry and believed in the power of literature, friends and family told us.
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she shared these passions in her classroom, as an english teacher at parkland high school in prince george's county, maryland. yvonne also volunteered for the toni morrison society for 15 years and wrote a memoir about growing up in a fractious iranian-american family. she "lived life loud," a friend told us, and wanted her daughters samira and layla to be confident and comfortable in any setting. she was 44 years old. salvador ortiz, known as "cano," was warm, funny and selfless his daughters told us. cano grew up in a large family in puerto rico, then moved to lorain, ohio with his wife julie. he worked at the lorain city water department for three decades and also did odd jobs as a handyman to support his family, his daughters said. cano loved the cleveland browns and bonding with his seven
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grandchildren and two great grandchildren. he was 68 years old. we want to thank all the families for sharing your stories with us. our hearts go out to you as they do to everyone who has lost a loved one in this pandemic. and online right now, we have more on the tragic covid milestone, including why it's so hard for us to comprehend the true scale of the lives we've lost. find that at pbs.org/newshour. tune in tonight to washington week, where i will be fiing in for moderator yamiche alcindor. the panel and i will discuss the congressional deadlock on covid funding, and how abortion rights could factor into this year's midterm elections. that's at 8:00 p.m. eastern here on pbs. that is the newshour for tonight. i am judy woodruff. join us each night this weekend
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