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narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. announcer: and now, "bbc world news". ♪ >> hello. this is "outside source." twous rsian capal, s kyiv, as te head of the united nations is on a visit. also, atrocities committed by russian troops. speakingo the bbc about the need for de-escalation. >> the war is unthinkable and we need to do everything possible to make it impossible. >> he says russia's ukraine
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invasion is a violation of the country's sovereignty in the charr of the when. and in the u.s., joe biden promises to keep helping ukraine defend itself from russia's invasion, asking congress for $33 billion next to funding. also on the program, samsung's latest ad critici as being tone deaf for showing a womand running alone at 2:00 a.m. on dark desolate city streets. ♪ the united nations secretary-general, antonio guterres, has told the bbc the u.n. wants peace and ukraine and won't give up. he is in kyiv, meeting with ukrainian president zelenskyy, in the city two days after visiting vladimir putin in moscow. we will bring you that interview. in the last hour, two russian
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strikes have hit the city of kyiv. it is not clear if there are casualties. i spoke to our correspondent ben brown shortly after those strikes. ben: there have been a couple explosions in the last hour here in the center of kyiv, some of the closest to the center of kyiv that we have seen. and there is speculation among some people here that that is perhaps a shot across the bows to the to the u.n. secretary general who is here right now. >> let's look at what mr. gutierrez has done on his visit to kyiv. he went to areas that were review slander russian control. you can see how badly it has been damaged in this work. he also went to abuja, where ukraine -- went to bucha, where ukraine accused rush of carrying out work arrives. he is looking at an empty mass grave where hundred civilian bodies were found. he also described what he called
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intense discussions with president zelenskyy and said this in a press conference. >> today, ukraine is an epicenter of unbearable heartache and pain. i witnessed that very vividly today around kyiv, the senseless loss of life, the massive destruction, the unacceptable violations of human rights and the laws of war. >> antonio guterres and volodymyr zelenskyy spoke about humanitarian evacuations. we hear several hundred civilians are riding in underground tunnels. mr. gutierrez -- mr. gute rres has said the you and makes it a priority for russia to stop attacks on the city so civilians can get out. he met with mr. putin in moscow and the u.n. says russia agreed
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to the evacuation corridor in general. this shows the bombing of a plant. the bbc has no verification of the footage. >> so far, the russian president's statement with regards to actuation was always that regards to evacuation was always accompanied with bombardments and those bombardments to lace even during the negotiations between president putin in the u.n. secretary general. u.n. is ready cap and beat evacuations for the evacuation of people as well as ensuring the implementation of any agreements reached. >> that's bringing that interview, antonio guterres speaking with bbc's ben brown and was asked if there is any progress on evacuation from mariupol. >> president putin agrees in
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principle to have the when and the icrc involved in evacuations of civilians in a steel factory in mariupol. there have been intense discussions on the details of how to do it. i don't want to add anything else because my objective is to make sure we are able to rescue these people. >> that is a limited objective for now. i understand it is vy important. >> i hope that this will translate into progress in the humanitarian field, and in the field of evacuations and of course, our interest is to see this war ended. i am in kyiv today. today, two rockets have exploded. i was shocked to be informed that two rockets have exploded in the city ere i am. so, this is a dramatic war and
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we absolutely need to end this war and absolutely need to have a solution for this war. but we know that this will not happen tomorrow, so the capacity to boost our humanitarian presence and support, which i announced to the government, and we will be working closely with the government for the increase of humanitarian support to the population in ukraine. and at the same time, an effort to create conditions to rescue civilians in desperate situations, as was the case in mariupol. ben: do you think you could go further and eventually negotiate some cease-fire here, some sort of peace agreement? or is that beyond scope of the united nations? >> negotiations for the peace agreement are taki place. the u.n. is not associated. the u.n. was never associated to the minsk agreement or the normandy format.
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this was always done with france and germany. recently, i came to moscow, i had an important conversation with president erdogan, turkey has been very active in supporting the negotiaons that we are supporting those efforts but on our directly involved in peace negotiations -- we are not directly involved in peace negotiations. i asked for a truce in order to be able to exactly have orderly evacuations from different points where people arebut we wt peace in line with the u.n. charter, in line with international law, and we want to do everything we can before peace comes to support the people that are suffering in ways that are absolutely terrible. and they need and deserve our full commitment and our full
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support. ben: and you saw for yourself some of that suffering today. you went to some towns north of here where there are alleged war crimes. you looked like you were pretty shocked. >> the international criminal court is investigating. and i fully support the authority of the international criminal court and i crossed them -- and i trust them. i appealed to theussian federation to cooperate with the international criminal court. it is absolutely essential ever there is a violation of international law, violation of human rights law, a war crime, it is absolutely essential that the truce is completely clarified, and that those responsible will be punished, that accountability works. ben: wt were your impressions when he went around those towns today, where there has been so much killing of innocent civilians? >> when i was there, when we
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feel the emotion of being in a place where people have suffered so much, i felt as if i was imagining my family there, and how terrible it would be. i think when one works like i do in international organizations, sometimes, we are absorbed with numbers. every person matters. and that is what counts, to be able to support people in distress, to be able to rescue people in distress and to understand that, even if this is only ever resolved to rescue one person, it would be worthwhile. ben: you talk today about your frustration and disappointment that the united nations security council has not been able to stop the fighting to end this
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r. >> we all of the security council has been paralyzed in many situations and also ukraine. the u.n. is not the security council, the u.n. is also the general assembly and the u.n. is thousands, staff members of the u.n., women and men working to support the people of ukraine, providing assistance, providing food, cash, other forms of support, cooperating with the government on that. the u.n. is much more than the security council. ben: there have been warnings from russia that the war in ukraine could escalate into a third world war. they are talking about nato fighting a proxy war. do you worry this could spread? >> i sincerely believe that they nuclear war is unthinkable. this -- and obviously, this is a matter of
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concern when these things are discusse but a nuclear war is unthinkable and we need to do everything possible to make it impossible. >> antonio guterres speaking with ben brown on the war in ukraine. and now to a development in washington dc. president biden says he wants the u.s. to provide a big increasing financial aid to help president zelenskyy's government repel the russian invasion. president biden has asked congress for $33 billion. let's listen to what he said. >> much of the new equipment we have announced in the past two weeks has already gotten to ukraine, where it can be put to direct use on the battlefield. however, we have almost exhausted what we called in a fancy phrase the drawdown authority the congress authorized ukraine in a bipartisan spending bill last month. basically, we are out of money. that is why today, in order to sustain ukraine as it continues
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to fight, i am sending congress a supplemental budget request that is going to keep weapons and ammunition flowing without interruption to the brave ukrainian fighters, and contie delivering economic and humanitarian assistance to the ukrainian people. >> $33 billion may seem like a lot of money, but melinda herron from the atlantic council says it may not be enough to ensure ukraine's future. >> this sounds like a lot but will only sustain ukraine for five months. it is actually not very much. one thing is missing on the list. it is a very good start, but there are no airplanes. that is what ukraine desperately needs. >> it is interesting you bring up airplanes because i knew you were part of a letter at the beginning of the war, in march, calling for a no-fly zone, some concerned that would be too extreme, that he could provoke russia. they are not talking about no-fly zones now, but there is
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conversation about whether planes should be supplied, a back-and-forth on whether poland was going to, and did. is that what you think is necessary? >> ukrainians really need airplanes. and the british government, your foreign secretary, called on western governments to empty their supplies and send planes. i think washington needs more courage and we need to be doing the same thing. it is great president biden is sending ammo, armored vehicles and drones, which is fabulous, ukraine desperately needs this. the longer this war goes on, the more the human suffering, the greater the refugee situation, and there will be more destruction. it is absolutely essential to get as much military equipment to ukraine now. the ukrainians don't have enough airplanes. >> sorry to interrupt, we were hearing from the un security council chief, antonio guterres, speaking with my colleue ben brown in kyiv. he was very much pushing for
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descalation, with more support going, or indeed planes, which has been a redline perhaps for -- and support for indeed planes, which has been a redline perhaps for some. >> when he was in kyiv meeting with zelenskyy, the russians were shelling the city of kyiv. putin is not interested in negotiating. if you want war to end as soon as possible and want to minimize suffering, you need to arm the ukrainians as hard and fast as you can now. the ukrainians have to wait on the battlefield in order to get a real deal at the negotiating table. >> thanks to melissa herring. with us on "outside source," still to come, china doubles down on its zero covid strategy. we have a special report. ♪ >> millions of indians are
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struggling to cope with an early heat wave that set new records. last month was the hottest recorded in india for more than a century. our reporter is in delhi. reporter:egre centigrade here in delhi, and i can feel the heat on my skin. marx was the hottestonth ever -- march with the hottest month ever and april was never this. at the worry here in india is that we have may and june coming up the summer season in ind. an official i spoke to said that this is an extreme situation, and they are comparing the data with the situation in 2010 when he said a similar situation prevailed. what officials are saying is that, for the next five days, heat wave conditions will prevail in the northwest and central india and over the next few days, in east india.
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♪ >> this is "outside source," live from the bbc news. our top story -- two russian strikes to kyiv asantoni meeting with president zelenskyy and says the u.n. won't give up until there is peace in ukraine. turning after covid in china, officials in beijing closed schools and public spaces after testing most of the capital's 22 million residents. authorities are hoping mass testing will help the city avoid a shanghai-style shock down. here is more from ros atkins. ros: in many parts of the world, most covid restrictions are gone but in china, this remains strategy, lockdown such as this one in shanghai. and any change is being resisted. >> if we chose to lay down now,
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our efforts will have come to nothing. we have zero covid. ros atkins zero covid means lockdowns, mass testing and it means anyone who tests positive going to a government-run quarantine center. and shanghai, we have seen officials in hazmat suits disinfecting seets and fences to stop people from leaving their flats. and we have seen this. >> electronic magnetic alarms are going to be placed on the front doors of some people in places where they have tested positive, to trynd monitor them to make sure they don't leave. ros: that is in shanghai. elsewhere, more than 20 other chinese cities are under some lockdown. and in beijing, people know they could be next. there has been panicked buying after new covid cases sparked rumors of lockdown. that has not happened, but millions of residents have been tested. now, the zero covid approach as saved lives during the pandemic. in china, there have been fewer
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than 5000 recorded covid deaths. in the u.s., it is close to one million. the chinese government is keen to make that comparison. >> china has 1.4 billion people, much more than all 30 countries of the west. but in the past two years, the death toll of covid in china is only less than 1% of the u.s.. ros: but china's zero covid commitment may come at a cost. the international monetary fund cut its forecast for the chinese ecthy onisr yeachina's target i. if chinese growth close, that could affect us all. >> the lockdown at john as not only a threat to the chinese economy, but the world as well, very much, including the u.k.. shanghai is home to the largest container port which is now hobbled. the fear is of disruption to global supply chains which are already severely stressed. ros: those supply chains take goods fr china to the rest of the world. the warning from the head of one
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of europe's busiest ports is blunt. he told bloomberg, we expect a bigger mess than last year, it will have a negative impact and a big negative impact for all of 2022. there is pressure on supply chains, essure on china' is covid policy. and that pressure is coming from these figures. at the beginning of march, there were 300 confirmed cases a day. two months later, now it is close to 30,000 a day. that rise is being driven by the omicron variant. it is highly transmissible, but there is another factor -- vaccines. 51% of over 80s have had two doses, but just 20% had a third booster dose. because of this, some of china's elderly remain vulnerable to covid in the health care system is volatile, too. >> the real problem in china is not that people are dying, but that they might die and that disease infections might spread because, outside the biggest cities like aging and shanghai,
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-- like beijing and shanghai, health care is often rudimentary. ros: health care, vaccine rates, omicron, these are all used as arguments for zero covid but this is about politics as well. >> they have been talking that this is a sign of superiority of the chinese political system compared to the west end it would be really damaging for them politically, really, to see that undermine density deaths rising. ros: all of which helps to explain why thetate-run run "global times" concluded dynamics zero covid policy is the only way out of the current complex situation. not everyone agrees this is the only way. chinese social media is tightly controlled, but videos emerged of protests like this one in shanghai, and this confrontation is people are forced out of their homes by police. their apartment block is been turned into a quarantine center. for whatever reasons, china's polity has shifted.
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here is robin again. >> it is not aiming for absolute zero covid now. it is aiming for something it calls societal zero covid, so no ses springing up outside quarantine centers. ros: more significant shifts appear unlikely though, not least because this awesome, president xi will seek a third term in power and covid is part of the equation. >> this is closely associated with his presidency and his legacy at the chinese population expect a society that is covid free. ros: the virus has made sure that expectation is not met but in the short-term, it is one reason the world is going in one direction on covid and china is going in another. ♪ >> let's turn to samsung. their latest ad has been criticized by some women's running send safety campaign is for being unrealistic see what you think. ♪
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>> ♪ don't want to hear about it ♪ >> the film shows a young woman getting up at 2:00 a.m. for a run and the city alone wearing headphones and is seen interacting with a man on a bike on a bridge but some say it was designed to celebrate freedom to exercise, but a women's safety group describe the ada's tone deaf, given danger women sometimes face from violent attacks if running alone. here is what the editor of " women's running magazine," esther newman made of it. >> probably nothing best reaction, it was just really shocking, because i don't know any women that whatever running at to a clock in the morning, wherever they lived at -- at 2:00 in the morning, wherever they lived. they certainly wouldn't be running in a city that late at night and wouldn't be running with headphones in. a running coach at colorado
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gave me her reaction. >> when i saw the samsung at, it struck me as abnormalo practice and experience ofost female runners. she put in headphones, went running down the street, sometimes the middle of the street, in the dark of night without any flective gear. and the fact they put it as aspirational was very disconnected from the reality of harassment that female runners face. >> you know, for people that are coming to this that perhaps don't run, it is something you would never do? >> absolutely not. most female runners are acutely aware that harassment happens. according to a 2021 survey by " runners world" and "women's health", 60% of runners have expensed harassment at some point. it is on every single female runner's mind and even some of
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those more so targeted by society, rtrans -- trans women, he job he runners and it is ignorant of samsung. >> you call it disconnected, but it is a sad state of affairs that a woman could not run whatever she feels like it in a city, on streets, whether it be anytime after dark. >> absolutely. it is sad. and oftentimes, we tend to place the blame on women like you shouldn't go running at that time, when it is quite the opposite problem. it is a problem due to a culture of harassment that is allowed to persist. and running in the dark has issues other than harassment, such as safety from motor vehicles. >> what do you think samsung should do? you saw their apology. you didn't have to go too far online to see what the reaction was today. i did see some other groups
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saying, come on, that doesn't reflect reality and people are being hard on samsung. runners, i will say. what do they need to do to -- need to do to rectify the situation? >> this is just my opinion is a female runner who works with female runners, but i would like to see a placement add presented with better safety measures. if she is going out in the dark, perhaps she doesn't have headphones, perhaps she is running in more visibly lit areas and perhaps she has safety gear with her such as a personal alarm and reflecting lights. that would be more connected with the experience of the female runners who are out there running at zero dark 30 hours of the morning and taking all these precautions. >> may samsung are listening. thanks to laura. a reminder of ourop story, the secretary-general of the united nations, antonio guterres, tells
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the bbc there have been intensive discussions on evacuating citizens from mariupol, where hundreds are believed to be sheltering in tunnels. he said that should be no escalation in the conflict in ukraine and said nuclear war is unthinkable. all parties involved should work toward making it impossible. thanks very much for watching narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ ♪
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