hello, on behalf of the archdiocese of san francisco welcome to, mosaic. justice is an important word a critical word speaking to a basic human need. things we want to have ourselves, and we want to see others have as well when things are right, fair, settled, the jury declared guilty, or innocent. a punishment imposed. that looks like justice has
been done. we would say we want to live in a just society where justice is possible for all. what's the human story behind the word justice? looking deeper, we might see the justices more than a principal on which we hope to act, deeper than discerning wrong on the side on right on that side and leaving it at that. involving a human relationship. when the injustice has been done a human relationship has been wounded, damaged. the relationship needs healing. today we will talk with the director of archdiocese and ministry called, restorative justice. as his mission statement says, we provide people affected by crime victims and offenders within our communities support to heal. prayer, prevention, intervention, guidance. stay with us, after this brief break, we will learn about the meaning of restorative justice, and what the archdiocese is doing to teach and practice it.
restorative justice. >> you work at the archdiocese in central office. you told me a couple of things. one, you call it ministry. not office, bureau, program. the second thing you insisted on informing me about was it's the ministry of presence. help us understand those things. >> when i say presence i mean we need to be present. when we meet people. when we have an encounter with people whether an offender, victim, we need to be present, and accompanying the families in the process of their journey in recovery whether they are inside a prison, or drill, or a person that lost a family member in violence. >> as i look up what you do in your mission statement, it does
seem you acknowledged there is a relationship between the offender and the victim. maybe that relationship didn't exist before. now they are in a relationship. that's the part that strikes me. i know nothing about this except what you are going to tell us. the relationship is there any need some kind of acknowledgment. that's what you let people understand? >> the relationship is there but there needs to be a bridge. two parts together. that's what restorative justice is all about when harm has occurred and in particular when there's a crime. that bridge needs to be connected by two people when they both agree. >> it seems like it's different from our adversarial justice system with the idea of court
and two adversaries settling something. what's different about restorative justice? >> the current system attempts to separate both so there's no -- there's an opportunity for two parties to len about what happened. restorative justice brings the opportunity -- listen to each other. what happened in this instance in this crime could >> your focus is on criminal justice, or civil things as well? >> are focuses to bring the biblical restorative justice to people that are inside jails and prisons, to bring the same approach to someone that has lost a family member in violence . >> it says on your mission
statement you provided crime victims and offenders with support to heal. it's clear to us crime victims need to heal. you are saying criminals people who have committed crimes need healing. >> how that works is criminals, or anyone that's in jail most of the time they have been a victim first. >> i've heard that said by experts two. i'm using the word criminal. in your language you refer to people as incarcerated. people in jail and prison. we are not judging they actually committed a crime this is a situation which they find themselves. >> correct. what we attempt to do is speak with the incarcerated people.
with attempt to bring the word of god for them to realize that they have committed, or harmed other people. that's the first step for people that we go and visit. they need to have this encounter with god first before anything else can happen. >> you tried to awaken the consciousness of the person whose incarcerated. i've heard this said as well many times people who commit offenses have been offended against before. they are bringing the anger they feel into another relationship where it doesn't belong. how do you meet with them? >> it's not just anger could be trauma, it could be they have been victimized first. they have been abused, or used.
in this process of being harmed themselves first. what we do is bring the faith. in the faith our hope is god -- they will have a relationship with god first. through their conscious and realizing they committed harm, they are going to recognize they have hurt somebody. >> it's not their right to hurt someone. god frowns on that, wants more from them. >> we look for that they have an encounter they find they have responsibility for the harm they have caused. that's one of the other steps in restorative justice. they need to be responsible in order for them to begin the
process of healing themselves. >> i guess that's difficult. do incarcerated seek you out? >> our goal is first to bring to them god. it is unknown at what point they realize they have to take responsibility. it could be for example when we go visit someone one time and we don't see this person again. our hope is they meet god somehow, and by the time they have this session, they have to take responsibility. it could be two or three years, the same day, when we go meet them and in any way we speak with them, they realize, okay, i need to take responsibility. that's a process. >> let's take a break. we will ask you more about the process by which this happens.
welcome back. we are talking with julio escobar about restorative justice, and is practice for the archdiocese of san francisco. i understand that you initiate meetings, mediations between offenders, and their victims. survivors and so on. you have an agenda for that in which you help open everybody's mind to what they are practicing. do you meet these people through their case manager, parole officers? >> we work with partners. one of the partners are the pollution officer and department. they referred their cases to social workers, or case manager.
that time is when minor crimes are delegated to me. in other cases are prevented preventive. we have different cases and how we use the practice. >> there is a focus on criminal behavior. also family applications or environmental applications? >> mediation for families. we may have a family that needs to speak with their son. the relationship is broken. they come to us seeking help mediating the situation they have. for example could be the use of drugs, or teenager that is misbehaving entering into gangs, violence, or escaping at night. different situations the families bring. as long as
>> okay. these personal meetings, you have small personal meetings. your department also does activities that i think are involving many partnerships and educational programs? >> we work with former incarcerated people. when they come out how to they reintegrate into society? how did they reenter the community? how are they able to get back to the workforce? what we do is have a conference. we have many partners that offer opportunities to form incarcerated people from housing, education, employment, job readiness and so forth. >> let me ask you a few things. we have some photos to show. i like to ask them to run them now so you can let us know
what's happening. tell us what we are seeing in this first set. >> in these photos we have the arch bishop and myself. we are holding a prayer service on the street where this mother was killed. we held a prayer service with the archbishop and we offer -- ask if it's okay to come and do a prayer service and they agreed. whatever occurred that's where we go to the prayer service. >> we have photos of three or four different events here to show. these are on the streets of san francisco reclaiming the spot of the murder. everyone is welcome. >> for every home in the county , we do the prayer service for every homicide. we bring the priest, we hold
these prayer services. >> for the next set of slides there's a couple that have -- a photo of your group of volunteers. who are these people? >> we have charity for mother teresa. volunteers that belong to the detention ministry. a group that goes to the county jails, juvenile facilities. this was from a meeting that we took after we had one of our meetings at the archdiocese. we had father john humanness in the back and different volunteers that participate. >> a group of volunteers at san quentin. >> this is the delegation of california bishops with sister helen.
we went there to look at the facility and the different aspects of san quentin. >> in the next set is a candlelight vigil for crime survivors? >> we did a prayer service at night. a vigil. that's a photo shown there where people are in the community invited to come and family members regardless of what happens >> gathered in a church in the next photo. >> this one was in sacramento. the cathedral. we have a large group of people come for a conference and we do the prayer service together. >> in the next set it shows a young man's funeral or memorial. this is a picture of the victim of the crime.
>> this is an palo alto. he was killed in a drive-by shooting. we did this prayer service. we do these for our family that's killed. >> this on shows some young men and detention of some kind. >> we have detention facilities for youth. i've seen as young as 10 years old. young people incarcerated. specifically in san francisco. this is a sample of what the facility may look like. they are underage. this is what it looks like inside of the facility. >> this is us all small example of what you do.
serious prospect of justice and a special kind called restorative justice as practiced by julio escobar. your restorative justice ministry we saw lots of different activities of prayer and prevention. you have a list of recent past events. you just had your recognition awards dinner for the community people to help you. let me explain what these are. people are invited to come and understand what they are doing. i think you wouldn't mind having volunteers. >> you have the reentry conference and resource fair in september. >> september 7th. it's a day conference. we have over 40 nonprofit organizations offering services for people coming out of jails and prisons. for them to bring into society. we have discussions going from
different topics where people can attend and that goes parallel with the people that come in table. secular directors offer services to people coming out of jails can come and table. this is a restorative justice conference. we also invite crime survivors nonprofit organizations to come to the table so we have both at the same location on the same day. we have people that are formally incarcerated and crime survivors. specifically homicide. >> you have retreats for families and friends in october? >> we have retreats for formally incarcerated people, crime survivors. families in prison and a retreat for volunteers. >> i have no experience with prisons are criminal justice.
if i wanted to volunteers there need for professional skills? zero skills? >> our ministry base is made of volunteers whether clergy or laypeople. here what's important is the time in the the catholic believe in the faith with you. that's what we share with our people coming into the jails. outside if you want to help in a retreat, or in a conference, or an event we have, you don't necessarily have to be catholic. you have to have the time and the heart to help. >> we talked about this. it seems this technique could
be used in the secular way of course. you are saying, you see as a christian a deeper layer. the soul of the person and the love relationship in which we are supposed to dwell with each other. that's been broken or damaged? you are trying to make people aware of that. in the corporal works of mercy jesus says i was in prison and you came to visit me. i've never understood that. i was hungry, you fed me, was naked and you clothed me, thursday you gave me drink. i've always added -- when i hear nothing about being in prison what does that mean. you are there because he belonged there. i should visit you, not sure about that. i think i see it more clearly and that's a damage broken person who is my brother. i see that in the christian tradition of course jesus himself was a prisoner and condemned to death and for the first 300 years the
christians weren't the conventional law-abiding people. they were lawbreakers and in prison frequently. >> when did you come visit me? that's a question. the answer is when we are called to do this, and called to do this because when you are in prison, you need somebody to talk to. you need someone that you can share exactly your conscience. say, i committed a crime, need to have someone i can go back to. that goes in relation to the question, when. when we are called to answer that question and be present. that's how we use the model of being present in the heart is
most difficult times when people are alone and isolated. they want to transform themselves and they need a word of encouragement. they need some direction. that's where we become present in people's lives. >> i saw yesterday you welcome the group of high school students from out of town. they are in town for a week or two with you doing work can you tell me what they are doing? >> neighborhood in action. it's a national entity that has mission trips for young catholic teens. the group we have is from washington. they've come to learn about restorative justice on the practice through videos. the principles we use. they are doing greeting cards for father's day, mother's day, christmas, for prisoners as well as crime survivors. >> thank you for being here.
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