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a bit, particularly black voters. the administration walked away fom police reform, the john lewis voting rights act, as you know, failed this week. how long do black voters have to wait for the president to deliver for them? because this seems to be a problem in some of these races. we saw this past week, particularly in a state like virginia. >> margaret, with all due respect, you're just wrong. i mean, let's start here. congress was unable to come to an agreement on police reform, so you know who acted? the president of the united states and the department of justice. >> brennan: the democrats walked away from those negotiations. >> well, now are you talking democrats or areul talking about the president? you asked about the president. let me finish. the president and d.o.j. banned choke holds. the president and d.o.j. limited restrictions of no-knock warrant. the president made sure that he is acting when congress cannot. so if you look at voting rights, we doubled the size of the
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volting rights division in the department of justice so that we could challenge these unconstitutional laws in court. >> brennan: democratic strategist james carville pointed this week to the loss of suburban voters in a state like virginia, when he said, "what went wrong was is the stupid wokeness." he argued democrats are being defined by the progressives. you're not defining your own message, particularly when it comes to issues like the economy. aren't republicans using that to their advantage? >> well, the republicans will use anything to their advantage, whether it's true or not. theatre party of misinformation. we see it with vaccines. we see it with everything. and what they've been able to do is weaponize things and define it in their own way. the president has been very clear, that his budget included $300 million more for community policing because we know that every community wants to be safe, while he's talked about making sure we have significant police reform. and so we're not defined by all of those things out there. but i think that the real issue
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is not exactly what james is saying. i think it's the fact that want republicans will weaponnize anything, fact or fiction. >> brennan: in your home state department of louisiana, a federal appeals court just yesterday temporarily halted the nationwide implementation of the administration's decision to mandate testing or vaccination for private businesses. they cited grave statutory and constitutional issues. are you confident you're on solid legal ground? >> absolutely. we're very confident we're on statutory and legal grounds. if you look the e.e.o.c., if you look at d.o.j., they both think we are. and remember, the purpose of the osha rule is to make sure that we keep employees safe in the workplace. and, look, the job of being president is not doing the easy stuff. it's doing what's right. it's having the courage to fllow through with it, and this president has done that time and time again. but the carnage that is out there, the families that are
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losing loved ones, it's at an unacceptable rate. vaccination is the best way to deal with it, and he has the courage to implement it. >> brennan: cedric richmond, thank you for your time this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> brennan: and "face the nation" will be back in one minute with democratic virginia senator tim kaine. so stay with us. nationally ranked hospitals, th five including two world-renowned academic medical centers, in boston, where biotech innovates daily and our doctors teach at harvard medical school, and where the physicians doing the world-changing research are the ones providing care. there's only one mass general brigham. this... is the planning effect. this is how it feels to have a dedicated fidelity advisor looking at your full financial picture. this is what it's like to have a comprehensive wealth plan
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economy in hiring people into good jobs. and then the education and workforce bill that i've worked very hard on, it's going to pass. i think congressional democrats blute timing. we should have passed these bills in early october. if we had, it would have helped terry mcauliffe probably win the governor's race. it would have been good for president biden. but we are going to get these bills done. they're great for every zip code in this country, and i'm really excited to be working on them. >> brennan: but on that issue of paid family leave, does it end up in or out of this bill? it wasn't quite clear from the white house. you did hear cedric richmond say there just aren't the votes. will there be? >> well, i would say-- i would say cedric is wiles not to completely predict what 50 democratic senators will do. as you know, this bill will get zero republican votes, just like the american rescue plan in march that produced such good benefits for every zip code, no republicans would support it. and this bill won't get republican votes, either. so what will 50 democrats agree
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to? i am a strong supporter of paid child and family leave, but remember this, margaret, everybody who cares about paid child and family leave also cares about the child tax credit. they care about affordable child care. they care about prekindergarten. and in that bucket of issues that matters to family and children, without being able to predict that everything everyone wants will be fully funded for as long as we want, that bucket of issues for family and kid is going to be so powerful, i think this will be the biggest pro-child bill that will have been done in the history of this country. it will be to children what social security was to seniors. so i'm confident about that, even if some pieces of it are still being negotiated. >> brennan: right. well, those pieces are important since all 50 senators have to be on board with it. but let's talk about the state that you are a senator from and used to run as governor. last week, a republican took it for the first time since 2009. how worried should democrats?
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what are the lessons that they need to learn from what happened in your state? >> well, first, it was a republican win, a close win, two point. and i gotta give it to the republicans. after being shut out for 12 years in every presidential, federal, and state race, they were hungry. that's what happens when a party loses. they get hungry, and then they win a close race. but here's what i think really, really was tough-- and i mentioned this earlier. i think congressional dems just blew the timing of the infrastructure and workforce and education bills. bluntly, we blew it. and i'm not talking about progressives or moderates or the house or the senate. the congressional democrats have majorities in both houses, and the american public expects us to deliver. we delivered big in march, but that was eight months ago. if we had done both of these bills in early october, terry mcauliffe would have had so much to sell-- relief is coming in terms of lowering child care
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costs, pre-kindergarten. there is going to be infrastructure to fix our ports and air airports and improve our roads. instead, with a narrow majorkt a lot of people start to think, let's see, i can hold out for the one thing i most want, or i can hold out to kick out this one thing i don't like. and democrats blute timing. and as you know, margaret, in politics, timing is important. we'll get the bills done, but we're going to get them done weeks after the election. we should have got them done weeks before the election. >> brennan: over the summer, terry mcauliffe said part problem was that president biden is just not very popular. is the president a drag on the party? >> well, look, if a president can get two legislative houses of his own party to deliver, the president suddenly becomes pretty popular. and i know the president and the white house has been frustrated with this as well. here's my prediction, margaret: you're going to see the infrastructure bill-- it's on its way to the president's desk-- he'll sign it. i hope he does a bipartisan
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signing ceremony. you're going to see us get this education and workforce bill to his desk. and then what people will be saying about joe biden is he had probably the most consequential first year of anybody who has been president in recent times. last week, the elections on tuesday weren't good. but you also had a record job report, vaccines available for children, infrastructure bill going to the president's desk. we think a foundation is being laid to really move us ahead for president biden and the american people. again, i'm just-- i just regret that even though senator warner and i were telling our colleagues, "guys, don't belet dithering and delaying party, be the doer party," folks didn't wake up to it. they're waking up to it now. >> brennan: let's look at the messaging from the republican candidate, who didn't run a single ad against the president, actually. he didn't even talk about joe biden. what he did talk about, the things that showed up in our exit polling here. he led on the economy in jobs. led on education. led on taxes. and in fact, the soon-to-be
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governor, mr. youngkin, performed very well in the suburbs. he did very well with white women voters. that message seemed to really work for him. so how do you beat that playbook? >> well, here's what i would say. virginia is the best state for business in the united states. we have one of the lowest unemployment rates and one of the highest median incoming in the u.s. under democratic leadership. so maybe what we need to do is be better at selling our accomplishments. i've certainly said that to the white house. when we get the infrastructure bill and the education workforce bill done, we have to make sure that we implement it right. joe biden did that as vice president when we did the recovery package at the beginning of the obama administration. we have got to implement it right, and then we have to go out and sell our success. you're right, glenn youngkin did okay in the suburbs. but some of the sushes we're talking about, terry mcauliffe
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won louden by 10 points. we won handily. we won prince william handily. we won fairfax overwhelmingly. you're right, there were some jurisdiction where's we didn't perform the way we used to. but i do attribute that to democrats in congress not delivering. and, again, the republicans were hungry. when you lose every year-- we have an election every year. when you lose 12 years in a row, people want to win. more power to them. >> brennan: quickly, how do you assess the trump factor here? is that what drove rural voter turnout? you had this sort of endorsement from afar? >> it's-- it's an interesting one. i-- i think the fact that youngkin kept trump up on the of the state proved smart because virginia's a battleground state. it's not a blue state, but virginia republicans are no dummies, and they saw trump coming a mile off. he was not a virginia republican kind of candidate, because they viewed him as kind of an
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antiscience know-nothing. so youngkin's decision to basically keep trump out oe state was smart. >> brennan: yeah, senator. >> the trump voters still wanted thoim win, but trump was locked on the sidelines. >> brennan: senator, i have to, unfortunately, cut you off, because i have to hit this break. thank you very much for all of your insights. and we'll talk more about this later on in the show. t ♪ ♪ now listen to the beat ♪ ♪ kinda pat your feet ♪ ♪ it's all right ♪ ♪ have a good time 'cause it's all right ♪ ♪ oh, it's all right ♪ psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen, painful. tremfya® is approved to help reduce joint symptoms in adults with active psoriatic arthritis.
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