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captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan in washington. this morning on "face the nation," we begin a week president biden said will determine the course of his presidency, and whether democrats maintain control of congress. at the g-20 summit in rome, president biden found it easier to broker agreements with other countries than his own party in congress. he ended a costly tit-for-tat with europe over steel tariffs, and brokered a plan to block corporations for shopping around the world for low tax rates. >> biden: we're going to continue together and prove to the world that democracies are taking on hard problems, delivering sound solutions. >> brennan: but significant national security challenges from
adversaries like iran still resume. >> when would you like talks with iran to resume? >> brennan: dire projections for a w next stop even more challenging as experts warn the very survival of our planet is at stake. we'll hear from secretary of state antony blinken and secretary of congress, gina raimondo. back at home, democrats in congress are still tangled in tough negotiationsory negotiations overpresident bidel proposal, which the president gave a final push for. we'll hear from california congressman ro khanna, pushing kellogg's on the colleae left to stand together and we'll talk to john curtis about his effort to get fellow republicans to help limit the damage from climate change. then on the covid front, vaccinations for younger children could be available in a matter of
days. we'll talk with pediatrician claire boogaard, who oversees the covid vaccine program at washington,.'s children's national hospital. plus, current and former presidents weigh in on the gubernatorial race in virginia. what that says for democrats and republicans. we'll have a preview. it is all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪♪ ♪♪ >> brennan: good morning, and welcome to "face the nation." we begin a consequential week in washington with lawmakers eyeing votes on two key bills that make up president biden's domestic agenda, while he also pushes to revive american leadership abroad. overseas this morning, the challenge of how to survive on a hotter planet faces world leaders at the g-20 summit. the president also discussed other national
security threats with turkey's r pred erdogan. with much of the globe still fighting covid, recovering from this pandemic is a challenge for the economy and a slow global supply chain. the increasingly tense relationship with china is at the heart of all of it. and secretary of state, antony blinken, who is traveling with the president, met today with chinese officials for the first time since his tense conversation with them in march. we began by asking him when the u.s. will resume negotiations over iran's nuclear program? >> well, the iranians have now said they're coming back to talks towards the end of november. we'll see if they actually do. that is going to be important. we still believe that diplomacy is the best path forward for putting the nuclear issue back in the box. but we're also looking at, as necessary, other options if iran is not
prepared to engage quickly in good faith. to pick up where we left off in june when the talks were interrupted by the change of government in iran. >> brennan: other options, does that include military? >> as we always say, every option is all on the table. here is what is important: iran, unfortunately, is moving forward aggressively with its program. the time it could take for it to produce enough material for one nuclear weapon is getting shorter and shorter. the other thing that is getting shorter is the runway we have, where if we do get back into compliance with the agreement, and iran gets back into compliance, we actually recapture all of the benefits of the agreement. iran is learning enough, doing enough that that is starting to be a problem. >> brennan: iran carried out a drone attack on u.s. forces in syria just last week. friday the u.s. announced sanctions related to this program. do you think sanctions are going to stop iran from trying to kill americans?
>> the president is very much prepared to take whatever action is appropriate at the time and place of our choosing by whatever means are appropriate to prevent and stop iran from engaging in these activities. >> brennan: let's talk about climate and the international efforts under way. the u.n. says that not a single major economy in the world, u.s. among them, is living up to the targets set back in 2015 in that paris accord. america is one of the biggest polluters, the president's only domestic agenda faces uncertain prospects here. how do you lead when america doesn't have its own house in order? >> well, we are leading on this. the president increased our own ambitions and announced a new so-called "nationally determined commitment" in terms of what we will do to make sure we get to net zero. and john kerry has been leading our efforts around the world to raise their ambitions, so when we get
to glasgow in just about a day's time, the world comes out to keeping to warping that does not exceed 1.2° celsius, but we're not there yet -- >> brennan: but these international commitments don't have teeth? >> they are unvoluntary commitments. there is an understanding we're seeing every single day storms and droughts that have been exacerbated by climate change. conflict driven by climate change. refugees driven by climate change. fights over resources driven by climate change. this is not tomorrow's problem; this is today's problem. i think there is a much greater consciousness of that. >> brennan: when you look around the world, the use of fossil fuels is only going up. europe is facing a potential winter fuel crisis, china has an electricity short. here in the united states, the president has called for opec to produce more oil. the projections global
energy consumption will jump by 20% by 2050. the facts seem at odd with what your describing -- >> we're pushing very important in the other direction. here at the g-20, agasi g an agreement to make sure countries don't finance coal projects internationally. that's one of the biggest drivers of emissions around the world. but we have to do what we say and make sure others who have not made the necessary commitments, including china, actually step up and do the right thing. >> brennan: what incentive does china have to act right now? they seem to be increasingly an adversary of the united states? >> well, i think the number one interest is in not being a world outlier. their only people would benefit dramatically from china taking the necessary steps on climate change. so what the international community. to the extent china cares about how is seen in the world, it also needs to think about stepping up. >> brennan: i want to
ask you about afghanistan. ambassador sillio, who resigned as your envoy, was on this show last sunday and told us moronto prt col afghanistan, including pressing president ghani harder. >> i was on the phone with ghani on a saturday night, pressing him to make sure he was in agreement with the plan we were trying to do put into effect, to transfer the power to a new government, that included all aspects of afghan society. he told me on the phone he was prepared to do that, but if the taliban won't go along, he was ready to fight to the death, and th very next day he fled to afghanistan. i was engaged with president ghani over many weeks and months. >> brennan: do you think you did all you could, is that what i hear you
saying? >> listen, one of the things we're doing at the state department is reviewing everything that we did, going back to 2020, when the agreement was initially reached with the taliban under the previous administration, including the actions we took during our administration, because we have to learn every possible lesson from the last couple of years. but, also, by the way, from the last 20years. this was america's longest war. president biden ended the longest war and made sure another generation of americans would not have to go and fight and die in afghanistan. i think when all of this settles, that's profoundly what the american people want and is in our interest. meanwhile, we're doing everything we can to make good op on our going commitments, including to afghans as risk that we want to help. and we'll learn every lesson we can from the decisions we made. >> brennan: mere secretary, thank you for your time. >> thank you, margaret. great to be with you. >> brennan: "face the nation" will be right
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commerce, gina raimondo, the president's liaison to the president's business community. welcome to "face the nation." >> good morning. >> brennan: supply chains around the world have been massively disrupted over the past few months. we have all of these bottlenecks. why haven't the ports, the truckers -- why hasn't this become unstuck. >> yes. good morning. so this is, as you say, a top issue for americans. it is a complicated issue. i mean, last year during covid, we shut our economy down. you know, as the governor at the time, we shut down rhode island's economy. we have never seen that before. so that meant factories closed, people went home. you can't just turn the economy back on overnight. so it takes a little bit of time. i will say we are making progress. you know, due to the president's leadership, we now have the ports open
24/7. >> brennan: there are reports that while the president announced the 24/7 opening, that is not actually happening in california. there are still backups -- >> there are backups, this isn't something that can be fixed overnight. fundamentally, supply chains and logistics are run by the private sector. people say to me, will christmas gifts be delivered? to which i say, call fedex. that's not what we're doing. we're using every tool in our toolbox to help, to unstick the ports. i'm focused on the semi conductor shortage. we're leaning towards that to make sure we did everything possible. but this is a direct result of covid. it is temporary, and we're working every day to unstick these supply chains. >> brennan: let me ask you about what you just
brought up about a shortage that you say the government needs to do. the tech companies are ng-terplaiout the issues. apples, $6 billion in lost sales because they can't get goods in time here. what the president just built, the build back better, it has money set aside for chip production. how quickly does this fix things? and do we need a mandate -- >> absolutely. america invented the semi conductor industry. but over time, over the past several decades, that has left our shores in search of cheap labor in asia. now we find ourselves extremely vulnerable, and so what the president is saying, we ought to get back into the business of making chips in america, which will, of course, create jobs. >> brennan: how quickly?
>> well, congress needs to act. this is a font that will come to the department of commerce. it is a $52 billion set of incentives to rebuild the domestic supply here. the day after congress passes it, it can come to us and we can get to work. >> brennan: are you mandating domestic production? >> no, we're not mandating domestic production. >> brennan: a prominent republican senator, i'm sure you read, had something to that point this week. >> what we're doing is working with partnership with industry to incentivize domestic production. we want to make chips in america, so we're incentivizing companies to do that, creating jobs every step of the way. >> brennan: one of the things that you do hear complaints from retailers, from other people in the business sector, is that the vaccine mandate, not a problem with the mandate
per se, but claims that putting it in place at this time around the christmas season will back everything up, that they might have labor shortages as it comes to rolling this out.aid there is some flexibility around these deadlines, that they're not a cliff, and the rules are being finalized soon. how soon -- do you need to push this off until after christmas? >> no. i think that would be a big mistake. people want to work in a workplace where they feel safe. you see united airlines, that was among the first to view the mandate. there number of folks applying for jobs is through the roof. the best thing we can do to get people back to work is to make sure everybody is vaccinated. >> brennan: right. but can you push that until after christmas? >> that would be a mistake. this year we're on path to have a the strongest
g.d.p. growth in decades. we had a blitz in the third quarter. why? delta variant. >> brennan: the u.s., as you know, because your passionate about this, paid family leave. we don't have it in this country. the president promised it was coming. it is not in this framework. that is a concession he made. you said it is so essential to getting the economy going. how disappointed are you that that was just given up? >> i'm unbelievably excited that we're on the pprecipice of passing the most impressive piece of domestic legislation in 50 years. broadband for every american, massive increases in child care -- as a working mother i know how -- >> brennan: but you said paid leave is essential and that is not in this. >> we will continue to
fight for this. i don't think anyone expected that the president would pass the first 10 months. >> brennan: it looks like he is trying to pass his entire agenda in the first 10 months, and this is not in this. if not now, when? this is something you were so passionate about? >> and i am still passionate about it. >> brennan: but this is not going to happen if the democrats lose the majority, is it? >> i don't believe that is going to happen. again, the president's passage, which we believe will be passed very soon, probably hopefully this week, provides tangible improvements to people's lives: better roads, better bridges, broadband for everybody, child care, public pre-k. it is historic, then we get to work continuing to fight for paid leave. we're not backing away from it, it is necessary, but nor should we take away from the monumental nature of what is in this
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so we can all liver tomorrow. ♪♪ >> brennan: we're joined now by congressman ro khanna, he is a leading member of the house progressive congress. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> brennan: you just heard that this legislation, the build back better program, is going to pass this week. but it's really in the hands of progressives like you. are you a yes vote on both this and the infrastructure bill? >> i am. the president has shown patient and extraordinary leadership. it is time for this party to get together and deliver. let me just say, politicians throw out historic transformation -- if i could just say two facts of what this will did: every american kid is going to get to go to
preschool. that is one of the biggest things we can do to create equal opportunity in america. second, this is the largest investment ever in solar, win ectrics on climate. >> brennan: we're going to get into the details in a moment, but this vote you do expect to happen by tuesday, as somehow projected, because on another network this morning. senator bernie sanders says he wanted to add something into the bill. pharmaceutical and drug pricing is what he talked about. that is pricey. how many changes should we expect? >> the negotiations are taking place. i'm going to be a yes. i think we can have the vote by tuesday. senator sanders is doing a great job to have medicare negotiations. >> brennan: that is $350 billion over 10 years. is that something you think you can still keep the senate on board with? >> there are two issues. one is the actual cost of prescription drug
negotiations, and that saves money and brings the costs down. the other is the medicare expansion, so people get dental, vision, hearing, by the way, a hugely popular vote. i'm a yes. progressives will be yes. we're working to get all of this in. but here is what people are saying: it has been months, let's get this done. >> brennan: you're a yes, even if those things aren't added in? >> i'm a yes on the framework. >> brennan: anything else? >> we're still working on getting the climate provisions. one of the main things we had is having a methane fee. we thought that would be into part of the framework, so the climate parts are still being negotiated. >> brennan: the climate you're passionate about, i know, but one of the biggest portions of the original proposal, the clean energy performance program, the $150 billion program, that didn't make the framework. how much of a defeat was it to lose that?
>> it was a setback, but the parts that were added th $n add to havestrong. electric vehicles, solar, wind, in collaboration with the privatetor, funding new energy sources. so is it better we have the clean electric program? of course. but i think we can hit the 50% goals by 2 30 with this plan en coupled with regulatory action. it is the strongest climate investment that the country has ever made. margaret, we're doing this with a majority that is less than what president clint had and president obama. here you have 50/50 -- >> brennan: and you're doing it all on the party vote? >> why isn't there a single republican who wants the family paid leave? they claim to be -- >> brennan: do you think things like paid family
leave are not possible to pass in 2022 if you don't hole on to the majority? when you were meeting with the president behind closed doors, did he say to you i can get paid family leave passed in the next year? >> he said he can. he said he will do what he can do. >> brennan: you're putting so much in this bill because this is your shot, this is what democrats say, to get what you want done. that suggests you don't have a shot at the other. >> i'm an optimist who thinks maybe one republican, who says they're for the forgotten american -- let's do a single bill on paid family leave. shot with us on paid family leave. vote with us on child care. vote with us to help the working class. we're doing this because we don't have a single republican vote to help the working family -- >> brennan: many say you need the business community to hit any of
these commitments. the climate envoy has said that, president obama sas said that. you held a meeting with the -- t >> the european partners are being partners. theory athey're announcing some the oil production -- >> brennan: you are meeting with some of the top oil executives in the country. what is the end goal? >> the end goal is to have transparency. they're saying they're for climate action, great. but what are they doing to hit those targets. why don't they be honest and say, here is where we're going to invest in clean energy. here is where we're going to transition. they shouldn't say one thing and do another thing. i want them to actually be partners. i want them to own up to some of the past erroneous
statements. they said that fossil fuel does not cause climate change. and he wasn't willing to say that isn't an outrages outrageous statement. >> brennan: thank you, congressman, for coming on. we'll be right back in a moment. so remember this: now is the time to get your eyes checked. eye care is important to your long-term diabetes management. see a path forward with actions and treatments that may help your eyes— and protect against vision loss. visit noweyesee.com and take control of your sight. you founded your kayak company because you love the ocean- not spreadsheets. you need to hire. i need indeed. o. you need to hire. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire
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