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the 7pm news, weeknights on kpix 5. captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan in washington, and this week on "face the nation," along with a sunny economic outlook come clouds of caution with the growing number of new coronavirus cases. now that spring has sprung, some businesses are booming. >> we're at a place where the economy is about to start growing much more quickly. >> brennan: we'll preview jerome powell's "60 minutes" with scott pelley. if that's the case, do we need the $2 trillion bill democrats are tr trying to get through congress. we'll hear from nancy pelosi and liz cheney. we'll also look at the
crucial caveat in chairman powell's assessment. our recovery is tied to americans taking the coronavirus seriously. in michigan, the covid-19 situation is so bad, that governor gretchen whitmer used a trifecta of sports analogies. >> the fourth down on the two yard line with five seconds left in the fourth quarter. we cannot afford to strike out, fumble the ball, it is everybody against covid. >> brennan: she is lobbying the biden administration for more vaccine supply. so far they said they' help, but no extra shots. >> we don't know where the next increase in cases could occur. now is not the time to change course or vaccine allocations. >> brennan: especially not when there are supply glitches, and even more demands. in a week, all americans over 18 will be the
eligible for a covid-19 vaccine. >> biden: no more confusing rules, no more confusing restrictions. >> brennan: we'll check in with former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb and look at the new guidelines for the school with superintendent tony thurmond, and it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >> brennan: good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." we begin today with caution and optimism. although there is concern about the rising number of covid-19 cases, especially among children, saturday saw a record 4.6 million vaccinations, nearly 71 million adults have been fully vaccinated. when it comes to unemployment, we're still far from where we were
pre-pandemic, but as mark strassmann reports, the job market is looking much brighter in some key sectors. >> reporter: and just like that, jobs are back. >> we are hiring on the spot. we're looking for over 40 guest room attendants. >> reporter: credit a burst in spending from a nation no longer in hibernation. a double injection of adrenalin from the $1.9 trillion stimulus package and three million americans getting vaccinated a day. >> a lot of pent-up demand. >> reporter: but in many sectors, the new north normal for employers is a shortage in workers. some chains now offer signing bonuses, not to executives, but to cooks and kitchen staff. covid america's run-away unemployment crisis is over. we're seeing the return of job fairs like this one. >> go get your
vaccinations and come out and get a job. >> reporter: nationwide, more than one in three americans have had at least one shot of a vaccine. in many moments and ways, america feels back. [cheering] >> reporter: baseball fans crowded ba ballparks. 12 states have lifted their mask mandates, but other states are in deep covid trouble. >> i think it is the foururth of ffinal wave. >> reporter: covid is stalking upper midwest states, michigan especially. cases have spiked seven-fold since february. hospitalizations have increased by more than four times. so far governor gretchen whitmer has dismissed calls to shut down the state again. >> including c.d.c. response teams, fema, d.o.d., and other personnel -- we need them to support vaccinations and getting shots in arms.
>> reporter: america's supply of the johnson & johnson single-shot vaccine will plunge 85% because of contamination issues at the production plant in baltimore. 15 million doses had to be tossed. a clear setback. >> there is bad news from the fed that they're going to be dramatically slashing our supply of vaccines. >> reporter: that will delay what epidemiologists want: herd immunity, the ultimate booster shot for a post-covid america. >> brennan: mark strassmann reporting from augusta, georgia, this morning. scott pelley sat down with the chairman of the federal reserve, jerome powell, for an update on the state of this economy. >> what we're seeing now is really an economy that seems to be at an inflection point, and that's because of widespread vaccination and strong monetary policy support. we feel like we're at a place where the economy is about to start growing much more quickly and job creation coming in much
more quickly. so the principle risk to our economy right now is really that the disease would spread again. you know, it is going to be smart if people can continue to socially distance and wear masks. >> brennan: scott pelley's interview with jerome powell airs tonight on "60 minutes". we go now to house speaker nancy pelosi. she joins us from capitol hill. good morning, madam speaker. >> good morning to you, and congratulations. >> brennan: thank you very much. as our viewers can see, baby on the way here. i wanted to ask you about that rosy settlement from the federal reserve chairman. $6 trillion has already been spent to get us to this point. isn't the momentum that he is talking about a reason that we don't need to spend trillions more, like president biden is asking you to figure out how to do? >> no, it isn't at all. if you listen very closely to what he said, we're at a place where we will begin to see, we will
begin to see, and then he also cautions against a surge in the virus. if we're going to grow the economy with confidence, we've got to crush the virus. they are definitely related. so we begin to see a recovery in our economy is quite different from what mitch mcconnell was saying, that the economy has taken off like a rocket. no. we'll begin to see, again, related to the virus. it is exciting to see people thinking we're out and this and that, but crowded venues and no mask-wearing and the rest are not a positive sign about how we crush the virus. so i think that we have to, again, listen to the science. the science and the governance of how we get this done. and then, of course, it will open the doors for our economy to grow.
>> brennan: well, on the specifics of how the president wants to see the economy grow, with this $2.5 trillion package, he is asking -- you have a democratic majority, it is a slim one, and you can only really afford to lose about two democrats. what concrete proposals can you offer to get republicans on board with this jobs and infrastructure package? >> public sentiment is everything. lincoln said that. the public understands that the worst and most expensive maintenance is no maintenance. and we have to maintain our roads, our bridges, our mass transit. we have to upgrade our water systems. we have to build out our broadbands for distance learning and telemedicine and the rest of that. so we have a big responsibility and a big need, to the tune of trillion of dollars, according to the american society of civil engineers. this is very important -- >> brennan: what you
just laid out there does have republican support. it is the rest of the package that republicans are largely objecting to. can you trim this down to focus on just the portions youoyou outlined there, the roads, the bridges --,. >> no. because infrastructure is about education, getting kids healthily in school, about investments in houses as well -- overruling this bill is about infrastructure in the traditional sense of the word. we also think that infrastructure, there is a need for workforce development in order to have the workforce fully participate en h in how we go forward, and child care. so it is physical infrastructure and human infrastructure that is involved. and the figure that they used is a ridiculous one to say that it is just a small percentage of the bill. it is overwhelming what
the legislation is about, and some newer versions of how we build the infrastructure in a way that takes building back better. it means we're all going down the path together. >> brennan: as we talked about there, you have a slim majority, so to keep the progressives in your party happy, they are pushing to actually make it bigger, not to slim it down. they're pushing you as well on paid family and medical leave. i know you continue to say you are committed to making those things permanent -- >> yes. >> brennan: -- but that is not in these white house proposals. when do you pla plan to put those things in a bill to make those things permanent. >> the president has talked about traditional legislation, the families bill that would have issues that would relate to lowering the cost of prescription drugs by having a negotiation for lower prices, about family and medical leave being made permanent. and, of course, i want to make the child tax credit
permanent as well. >> brennan: when? >> that is all a matter of conversation as we go forward. i have no doubt we will have a great bill in the house. i hope it will be bipartisan. i have been in congress long enough to remember when bipartisanship was not unusual. and actually building infrastructure has never been a partisan issue. they made it partisan under president obama by shrinking the bill. hopefully the need is so obvious now that republicans will vote for it. we'll see. i'm not -- the door is open. our hand is extended. let's find out where we can find our common ground. we always have a responsibility to strive for bipartisanship. >> brennan: so no date on that. let me ask about infrastructure at the capitol. it has been three months since the january 6th siege. how much longer can you wait before putting forth the supplemental bill to do all the things you say are necessary to protect the capitol hill?
>> we'll put it forth when it is ready, and it is just about ready now. there was a great deal of review of requests of organizations and entities that had spent money on that day, january 6th, the day of the insurrection incited by the president of the united states -- who would ever suspect such a thing -- so there were costs associated then. but now costs associated with building and hardening the windows and the doors that the capitol put forth by the architects of the capitol. >> brennan: can you do that -- and i read that report. it was just incredibly detailed and scathing, frankly. can you really wait -- >> we're not waiting. >> brennan: -- or can you did something now? >> no. no. we're are ready to go forth. i'm talking about honorary suggestions about what is needed. and there has been a
report about sho shortcomings in the capitol police that must be addressed. i think we're right now at a good place. again, we're talking about money, and we want to make sure it is the appropriate amount, nothing less than we need but nothing more than we need and appropriately prioritized to, gain, open up the capitol so that it is the temple of democracy that it is, that people can come and be there with adequate protection so that they can do so safely. and the appropriations committee had that responsibility in addition to the committees of jurisdiction and the house of administration, etc. we're in a good place and we feel -- how can i say it -- we think that it is the appropriate prioritizing that we're putting forward. but legislation is always a conversation. >> brennan: yes. we'll stay tuned for that. the house ethics committee has opened an investigation into
congressman matt gaetz, as you know, for a laundry list of allegations. are you going to wait for the committee report, or do you think it is time for him to resign right now? >> it is up to the republicans to take responsibility for that. we, in the congress, in the house, have rule 23, which says in the conduct of our duties, we are not to bring dishonor to the house of representatives. i think there has been a clear violation of that, but it is up to the ethics committee to investigate that. and it is up to the republican leader, mr. mccarthy, to act upon that behavior. but we're hopeful that other things in the congress, rather than that -- wc about what can happen to our economy if we crush the virus. what the president has put forth is quite transformative for our country so that we can, as he said -- help is on the way, help is here.
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you mentioned, of this proposal that president biden has put forward is actually focused on infrastructure. the national association of manufacturers has said we will probably lose over a million jobs if this is enacted. and you are certainly going to see, in addition to the corporate tax increases in the bill, you'll see middle class tax increases. this is a pattern we watched the democrats use time and again, where they massively increase spending, they massively expand the size and scope of the federal government, and they come back around and impose middle class tax increases. those are things that we don't support. >> brennan: the national association of manufacturers saying we'll use a million jobs, was specifically targeting the tax rate going to 28%. is that an area you're focusing on. if speaker pelosi says we'll go down to 25%, for example, is that something you can work with? >> look, the bill would need to be fundamentally
redone. it would need to actually focus on infrastructure, not on so many of the additional green new deal spending priorities, spending priorities that are focused on helping democratic allies around the country. we have already, as you pointed out, appropriate prateed trillions of dollars since january, and last year as well. i'm really concerned about the impact on the economy, with this additional injection of cash. and so much of it is unnecessary. 6% is actually focused on the kind of infrastructure that there is bipartisan support for. so i would urge democrats let's focus on that. >> brennan: senator portman said 20% of the bill, if you're generous, is on infrastructure. you're putting it even lower at 6%. on the question of paid leave, which is something that speaker pelosi said is a long-term goal of hers, is that something you can get on board with? >> look, margaret, i think there are fundamental
differences in how the democrats and the republicans approach the economy. we know we've got to enact policies that will help spur this economic recovery, policies that are going to create jobs, policies that are not going to expand the federal government so it is involved in every aspect of our life. >> brennan: but that was so key when it came to female ployment employment -- >> i think it is very important for us to provide opportunity for everyone. i think one of the things that democrats often do is they try to segment women out and say these are the women's issues. i think women need to be in a position where they know their elected officials are doing everything possible to keep them safe, to keep the nation safe, to get their kids back in school. if you want to talk about what is really going to help women get back to work, it is getting schools open again. and speaker pelosi four times now, since january, has blocked the reopen schools act from consideration on the house floor. those are the kinds of
things we ought to be focused on. >> brennan: former speaker john boehner was just on cb cbs "sunday morning" saying january 6th should have been a wake-up call for your party. he doesn't understand why more of your party didn't speak up. you did speak up. was separating yourself worth the risk? >> look, january 6th was clearly an attack that was an attempt to stop the counting of the electoral votes. we're not in a good place, and it is her responsibility to create a commission, a bipartisan commission to study what happened. to understand what the provocation was and to make sure it never happens again. every after major crisis, whether it is 9/11 -- >> brennan: thought support for the version that she put forward -- >> well, the version she put forward was not bipartisan. it was very heavily
partisan towards the democrats. it shouldn't be a partisan issue. you had 140 national security officials from republicannd democratic administrations sending a letter to congress saying we need a commission. i think that's the single, most important thing we need to do to make sure that kind of attack never happens again. >> brennan: unfortunately, last night the former president seemed to be talking in a proud way about the crowd size on january 6th. he gave a speech at mar-a-lago. he talked about president biden pence not doing more to stop the election certification. according to reports in the "times" and the "post." so he is the best messenger for the party? >> the former president is using the same language he knows provoked violence on january 6th. as a party, we need to be focused on the future. we need to be focused on
embracing the constitution, not embracing insurrection. i think it is very important for people to realize that a fundamental part of the constitution, and of who we are as americans, is the rule of law, the judicial process. the election wasn't stolen. there was a judicial process in place. if you attack the judicial process and you attack the rule of law, you aren't defending the constitution; you're at war with the constitutions. constitution. we have to embrace the constitution and put forward positive solutions. we have to be the party of hope, of aspiration, of inspiration, the party that recognizes and understands that the taxes need to be low, the government needs to be limited in size, a strong national defense, though substantive things, not the party of insurrection. >> brennan: speaker pelosi just said it is up to your party to take responsibility for congressman matt gaetz who is undergoing an ethics investigation. are you ready to call for his resignation? or are you going to wait?
>> as the mother of daughters, the charges certainly are sickening. and as the speaker noted, there is an ethics investigation under way. there are also criminal investigations under way. and i'm not going to comment further on that publicly right now, margaret. >> brennan: were you surprised at these allegations. >> i'm not going to comment further, margaret. >> brennan: well, he is one of your chief critics, so i needed to offer you that opportunity. >> thank you for the opportunity, margaret. [laughter] >> brennan: all right. congresswoman, we will leave it there. we'll be back with a lot more "face the nation." stay w with us.
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watch cbs in bay area with the kpix 5 news app. ♪ >> brennan: welcome back to "face the nation." we continue our conversation with michigan democratic governor gretchen whitmer. governor, you have publicly called for a surge of vaccine doses to your state, but the white house's covid response coordinator, as we played at the top of the show, shut that down. does this -- does this offer that they're giving you and vaccinators, of resources, make up for the fact that they're not surging you doses? >> governor: let me start by saying this: we did not have a national strategy for a long period
of time. and then the biden white house came in, and we have one. and by and large, they're doing a great job. i would submit, though, that in an undertaking of this magnitude, with such consequences, it is important to recognize where there might need to be some adjustments on the way. we're seeing a surge in michigan, despite the fact we have some of the strongest policies in place, mask mandates, capacity limits, working from home, so despite all of that, we are seeing a surge because of these variants. and that's precisely why we're really encouraging them to think about surging vaccines into the state of michigan. and i'm going to continue to fight for the people of michigan. >> brennan: and i know, you know, taking a vaccine takes some time, but according to reports in "the post" and the "a.p.," biden officials and telling reporters that you're not maxing out the
supplies. or that you're not being efficient in allocation. how do you respond to that? >> governor: i don't think there is a governor in the country that is leaving any vaccinations on the table. that is certainly the case in michigan. we're getting shots in arms. we got over a million shots in arms just in the last two weeks. so we have really been rolling. we spent a lot of time with the covid response team walking through. i think we found some common ground at the end of the last week around the data. all of that being said, right now we know we have even greater capacity. we could get more vaccines in arms. when there is a surge, we think that it is important that we go to -- we rush in to meet where that need is because what is happening in michigan today could be what is happening in other states tomorrow, and so it is on all of us to recognize we can squash where we're seeing hotspots, so it is in everyone's best interest. >> brennan: did you get any explanation as to why the white house won't surge you vaccine at this
time of crisis? >> governor: i think they've got a plan and they're committed to sticking to it, and i understand. we're definitely grateful for the boots on the ground, the mobile units, and the increased testing, and those are all really important. we're going to continue to work well with this white house, and we're grateful for that. but i'm also going to continue fighting for my state. anyone who has watched what is going on in michigan knows that is how i am, i'm going to fight to get everything we need. >> brennan: if you get doses, are you confident you can actually administer them? because if you look at what is happening in the city of detroit, the mayor there said they're really having a hard time, in some ways, getting the vaccine uptake. there is hesitation. what's the problem? >> governor: the mayor has done an incredible job. i think he has been wanting to expand the population to whom he can
offer vaccines. and so we have done that. michigan was the first to heed the biden administration's call to drop all of the priority groups and make it accessible for everyone. right now if you're 16and up in michigan, you can get vaccinated. but we have thousands of partners ready to put shots in arms. we just need the supplies. >> brennan: would you drop the requirement to make an appointment? >> governor: we know making appointments is really important is terms of determining how many vaccines we have and making first and second doses. so the appointment process we think has been really important. you look at what happened in florida in the early days, where people were waiting in line and it was chaotic, and actually somewhat dangerous. we've had an appointment process and it has worked quite well. i think that with more vaccines, we'll continue to see that work well. >> brennan: because that's one of the arguments to get it into
poorer communities that don't have digital access. what about kids? if pfizer, which asked the f.d.a. for emergency use to put vaccines in the arms of 12-year-olds, if they get that, would you mandate that for kids to go back to schools? >> governor: we're not having conversations about mandates -- >> brennan: why not. schools mandate other things for children. >> governor: right, and the schools may well do that. at this juncture, we're not having that conversation. we have continued to have good mitigation policies and continue to move shots in arms, all despite the fact that i've got a reduced set of powers because of the antagonism from my own legislature. so there is not a conversation on that front, but we are encouraging schools to move forward, to take a pause right now, and to promulgate policies to keep their students and their staff safe. >> brennan: you mentioned antagonism from
our own legislature. you've also been the target of some high-level michigan republicans. recently ron wiser, the party chairman, said this about you. >> our job now is to soften up those three witches and make sure that we have good candidates to run against them, that they are ready for the burning at the stake. >> brennan: he is talking about you and two of your female democratic colleagues, the senate majority leader was also bragging that the senate that, quote, "spanked you" on the budget and poimghts. appointments. they both apologized, but do you think there should be repercussions for remarks like this? >> governor: when you say they have apologized, i have not heard from them. there was a lot of death threats, a plot to kidnap me and kill me.
it is different in what i'm confronting than what my male counterparts are confronting. i don't have time, though, to focus on that or to go punch for punch. i'm not going to do that. i've got a job to do, and that is helping get my state through this. helping to get our economy back on track, supporting the american jobs plan so that that helps us do both of those things, and that's what i'm going to stay focused on. >> brennan: governor whitmer, thank you for your time. good luck. >> governor: thank you. >> brennan: we'll be riright back to talkk ababout kids goingng back t to schchool anand keeping g them safe. stay witith us. and try y advanced,, now withth two timeses more bi. and try y advanced,, ♪ mom and d dad left costa a rica, 197171. and in 199990, they opopened lr.
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l.a., tomorrow, are going to be returning to in-person learning. why did it take this long? why didn't the governor really force things to reopen? >> well, if you think about the complexities of our state, we have, you know, 6.2 million students. you mentioned our largest school district, los angeles unified, is opening tomorrow with more than 600,000 students. if you think back to the winter, we had one of the biggest spikes anywhere. we've lost more than 60,000 californiaians. we have 3.7 million cases. this has been complex, and everyone has been trying to find a way to get our schools open. we're at a place where we see 9,000 of our 10,000 schools are either open or found any w way to open. we're giving them rapid
covid tests. >> brennan: the c.d.c. director is hopeful kids will return for in-person instruction in the fall. will they do that in california and will you mained date the vaccine? >> this week our vaccines will now have eligibility for anyone 16 and over. so we know that will be important as we look to see more increases of schools that open for our high-school-aged students. >> brennan: but it is not mandated for them? >> well, our governor hasn't mandated that, but making vaccines available has been a game-changer in our state. we are providing 22 million vaccine doses, more than 400,000 to our educator workforce. these are the keys that allow us to get our schools open and keep them safe. of course, we need everybody to continue to wear a mask and to social
distance so we can make sure we can stay open safely in our schools. >> brennan: will you consider it? >> my office doesn't have the power to mandate. >> brennan: but you have the power to consider it and recommend it? >> i do have the power to recommend using things like vaccines and covid tests. these are ultimately individual choices that our families are going to have to make about whether or not their children will take the vaccine. as a parent, i certainly would encourage it. as someone who has recently had my vaccine, i've gone on live to do live webinars to for people to see that it is safe, it is pain-free, and it can make a difference in keeping us safe. with all of the variants that we're seeing coming to the u.s., we know that the vaccines are among one of the most important things we can do to keep every one of our 40 million californians safe. >> brennan: i want to ask you about the kids as they come back into
instruction. you spoke powerfully about your own personal experience growing up as a child of a single mom that you lost at a very young age. there was a study that was published this week talking about the 40,000 ch,000children in this country who have lost a parent to covid-19. 20% of those kids, according to this study, are african-americans. in california, how do you plan to deal with this particular part of the inequity problem? >> the first thing we do when our students return is really check in on their social and emotional well-being, making sure they have mental health supports. this has been hard on our kids all across the nation. we've seen a high rate of depression. and we know that we have to, first and foremost, provide social and emotional supports. second, with all due respect to the hard work of so many educators trying to support our kids -- wn this country moved into distance learning overnight because we had
to keep people safe. let's face it, education systems weren't built for this. we all due respect for those efforts, we know many of our kids have had unavoidable impacts. we have to make sure more of our kids have computers. we have so many students, including students of color, who have gone without computer and access to high-speed internet. in our state, we have worked to provide hundreds of thousands of computing devices, and we've got all of our internet companies to commit to providing internet at low costs to our students. at the same time, i want to say that many of our families are still asking to remain in distance learning. if you look at nationwide across the country, students -- >> brennan: why? >> -- students of color are asking to remain in distance learning. that tells me they still have concerns about distance learning. that is why it makes sense to go slowly, to go with caution, to show folks this can be done.
we've secured, with the governor and others, five million rapid covid tests that give you results about someone being positive within 15 minutes. that kind of awareness gives us a sense about whether or not it is safe to reopen your school campuses, and we're using them throughout the state of california. >> brennan: to make up for lost time, do you need to have a summer semester? >> we're planning to use our summer programs to provide more enrichment. but that's not the only way. at the end of the day, we'll assess where every student enters, and that means a lot of tutors. that means after-school programs, and that means specialized training for teachers and educators, and really working closely to engage our families, to make sure we're hearing them and to we're providing support and to make sure our students have access to high-speed internet. >> brennan: considering what we're seeing in the midwest, do you still intend to hold youth
sports because that is being seen as a way that the virus is spreading. >> our sports are open, and many of our schools have open testing. we're continuing to monitor these new variants, and to make sure that we are doing the things that we know that will keep us safe: using face masks and social distancing. >> brennan: superintendent, thank you very much for your time this morning. we'll be back in a moment. dana-farbeber cancer i instite discovereded the pd-l1l1 pathw. pd-l1.1. they c changed howow the word fightsts cancer. blockiking the pd-d-l1 protei, letsts the immunune system a a, attackck, attack canancer.
>> brennan: we want to take a quick look now at the covid news around the world. cbs news' liz palmer reports from london. >> reporter: good morning. as the global death toll from covid closes in on three million, there are three main hotspots on the planet: india, brazil, and europe. even in well-off, wellll-organized germany, the i.c.u. wards in some regions are full, and the medical system is under strain. europe is currently a patchwork of lockdowns, and thre is a pace to
vaccinate faster than the virus is spreading. but public confidence has been spreading, first by an investigation into astrazeneca link to rare blood clots and now another into johnson & jojohnson's. by contrast, britain is getting ready to reopen. infection and death rates are sharply down, so pubs and shops can welcome costumers back as of tomorrow. prime minister boris johnson will be among them. >> on monday, the 12th, i will be going to the pub myself and cauautioususly but irreversrsibly raissing a pint of beer to my lives. >> reporter: politicians across india are on the campaign trail and rallies like this with few masks and no social distancing is helping to fuel an explosion of covid cases. the rise in death is owe alarming, authorities have decided that india, a huge vaccine producing, will stop exporting any and keep everything it makes
for itself. in brazil, too, the situation is critical. hospitals are overfull. and the number of covid deaths every day has tripled since january. with vaccine shortages and no strict lockdowns, the situation is deteriorating. and that's a global concern because new variants will inevitably emerge from a run-away outbreak like brazil's, and they're vaccine resistant, that could put us all back to square one. >> brennan: liz palmer thank you. we turn to former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb who joins us from west port, connecticut. good morning to you. >> doctor: good morning. >> brennan: the good morning of michigan name checked you as one of the health experts she has recently consulted with. so let's start there. what do you think of her request to the white house to surge vaccine supply?
a number of health experts said this is a misdays on themistake onthe white house's t to deliver her the doses she needs. >> doctor: it is a request that has been made for weeks. it is never too late to do it. and it is the resources to actually get the vaccine into arms. some of the federal resources that fema has, they're dwefi developing these mobile vans to go into communities. it has been sort of a hunger game for vaccines among states so far. we need to think differently about this pandemic. if you look at all of the planning for past pandemic, the flu planning that we've done in the past, even planning for bio-terrorism incidents, it contemplated surging resources into hotspots. they never conceived there would be a national epidemic, but localized outbreaks. that's is likely what we'll see going forward, we'll see these hotspots. so we need to get into the habit of trying to surge resources into the
hotspots to put out the fires that have spread. and it is not just michigan, but the entire great lakes region. >> brennan: is there a good region to be sticking to the plan only delivering doses based on population size? >> doctor: yeah. governors are going to explain acomplain about it. we're going to be in a situatin three weeks from now where supply outstrips demand. a lot of states are going to see themselves with excess supply and appointments. it will be a shame to look back and realize we probably should have put more vaccine into some of the hotspots. it is tough because the vaccine takes time to take affect. but if we start surging supplies into michigan and surging capacity to deliver those supplies into michigan, it could have an effect on the tale end of the situation. cases may be starting to come down and reaching a turning point. a lot of those cases are in younger people, people
who haven't been eligible for vaccine. about 15% increase in cases for those under the age of 18. a 50% in ves increase between e ages of 20 and 39. so they're occurring in groups that haven't been vaccinated. >> brennan: and the governor and the c.d.c. director both highlighted youth sports activities as possible vector of transmission. what do parents at home take away from that? do they send their kids to the classroom but not let them go to lacrosse practice? >> doctor: what we've seen consistently through this whole pandemic is that the risk in the schools correlates to the risk in the community. if you're in a community that has relatively low prevalence -- and that is a lot of parts of the country -- the risk in the schools is lower. if you're in a community that has a high prevalence, like the metro detroit region, the risk is higher. a lot of the outbreaks they're seeing are associated with the
schools. there has been a 17% increase associated with the spread they think originated in the schools. if you look at the michigan data. i think it is prudent that the governor tapped the brakes or made recommendations to tap the brakes on extracurricular activities until they get over this surge infection. in most parts of the country, you can reopen schools and continue in lower prevalence of the virus. >> brennan: both the governor and the california superintendent were reluctant to mandate a covid vaccine for kids. why? you have to be vaccinated to go to school in most states. why should covid be any different? >> doctor: look, people have come to accept the other vaccines in the pediatric schedule, measles, mumps, rubella, flu vaccinations, i think this is novel. i think issues around
covid have become a political aspect. they'll be reluctant to mandate because they know if they step into this debate and impose mandates, that will en ingender more opposition. if you see outbreaks, there will be pressure to mandate the vaccine. some communities are going to see fights among parents trying to influence local school boards to mandate vaccinations and local health districts to mandate vaccines. so this is going to play out at a local level. hopefully we enter a school year where enough adults are vaccinated. the community spread is the best predictor of what happens. if you look at the data out of israel, cases have come down substantially in the kids under the age of 16 simply because their parents are vaccinated. >> brennan: what do you think about this idea of vaccine passports?
>> doctor: i think we should allow people to own the information about whether or not they've been vaccinated. right now you don't own that information. the card that you got can be bought on ebay. we piggybacked reporting if you've been vaccinated. there are 64 districts that the states report on who has been vaccinated for covid. that system is that the states report on childhood immunization. you can't get access to that information. so we need to create ways for people to own it. >> brennan: i've got to cut you off there, dr. goldman. dr. gottlieb. thank you very much. we'll be right back. mabel herere isn't a r real c. and d she reallyly hates tha. anything else? she also hates small talk. but t not as mucuch as peoeople sayingng she dodoesn't makeke real mil. now that's as real as it gets.
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