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it is time to pass health care reform for america. the american people are saying, stop and they're screamg athe top of their lungs. >> when i looked at that photo, i said by darn that certainly does look like a skeleton. >> it's directly stealing from the taxpayers of the united states. >> i'm okay. i didn't even see it. >> that was something.
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you're watching hln "news and views." i'm natasha curry. thanks for joining us. >> how is it going, guys? >> we're going to get this done. welcome to hln news and views, i'm natasha curry. you just saw president obama arriving for a pep talk with house democrats a vote is expected tomorrow, and the president, he needs every vote he can get. >> don't do it for me. don't do it for the democratic party. do it for the american people. they're the ones who are looking for action right now. >> earlier today, democratic leaders decided to abandon the controversial plan that would let the house avoid a direct vote on the senate's health care bill. instead of using that plan, democratic sources say there will be an up and down vote on the $875 billion reform measure. now, as the vote gets down to the wire, the president's trng to win over two main groups. the 37 democrats who voted against the bill the first time around, and the 40 house democrats who voted for the
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measure only after restrictions on abortion were added to that bill. now, in this version, those restrictions have been modified. the house will debate the bill tomorrow, then take a vote. protesters interrupted the house proceedings today. one person stood up in the gallery and yelled "kill the bill." listen to the reaction of the house republicans after the protester speaks up. [ applause ] >> the chair notices a disturbance in the gallery. the sergeant at arms will remove those persons responsible for disturbancand restore order to the gallery. >> the protester was escorted out and cheered by some republicans. representative barney frank, a democrat, called those republican member clowns. now, it's not just inside the gallery. there were plenty of protesters outside, too. take a look. yesterday, some of them
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reportedly yelled anti-gay comments at frank, who is openly gay, and three proafran-american protesterss said protesters yelled slurs at them. a rule from the rules committee. the house must adopt the rule vote before debating the actual bill. that's the first order of business this afternoon. if the rule passes, then debate begins on two health care bills. the first hour focuses on the senate bill. the second hour is devoted to amendments to the senate measure included in a budget reconciliation resolution. republicans are expected to offer what is called a motion to recommit. that will be the minority party's last chance to kill the bill. before the day is over the house will hold the two big votes, first on the health care senate bill, then on the reconciliation paage. it could be a new tip in the search for nathalie holloway.
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a dive team will search an underwater site where some tourists claim they spotted human remains. here's a photo of what they saw. the tourists who snapped the picture think it should show the skeleton of hold loweway who disappeared nearly five years ago. they talked with hln's nancy grate. >> tjohn, what do you recall when you first really took a hard look at this photo? how did that come about? >> when i looked at that photo, i said, by darn, that certainly does look like a skeleton. but i started showing it around to different people, getting comments. what do you think? just look at this picture. what do you see? of course there's that little snake that was taken on the right side of the picture and then they would look and say, my god, yes, that looks like a skeleton. a human body. >> the main suspect, joran van der shoot, remains free. he reportedly claimed he threw holloway's body in the ocean
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after she suffers a seizure on the ach. aruban judges have ruled there is not enough evidence to arrest him. a german archbishop has reportedly admitted that the catholic church covered up sex abuse by priests. the german news magazine "focus" reports the archbishop said the abuse was covered up for decades the report comes just a day after pope benedict apologized for sexual abuse by priests in ireland. in a letter, the pope said he was truly sorry for what happened, but for some abuse victims, it's just not enough. >> sorry is the beginning and that's all it is. it's the beginning. we need to see the pope coming here. he needs to hear us. meet us in the flesh. he needs -- we need to see him with our abusers in a reconciliation forum. >> john allen says the kat rick church realizes it has to do something to deal with the latest abuse charges. >> today, the tone, obviously,
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is very, very different. and i think that's a recognition on the part of the vatican, though it can't supervise the 400,000 catholic priests around the world, people are looking to it forleadership and its got to come through. >> the pope said the abusers must answer to god and try bunales for their crimes. all of the votes from iraq's parliamentary elections have yet to be counted but the prime minist there is calling for a hand recount. nuri al maliki said a recount would preserve the integrity of the process. so far, the vote counting from last month's balloting has been slow. the results are still too close to cal british airways is flying at least half of its normal schedule on this the second day of a walkout by its cabin crews. the airline says it has managed to make more flights than it expected. b.a. is hoping to operate about 65% of its schedule during the flight. the union for flight attendants claims 80% of cabin some transatlantic passengers
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report they saw no problems with crews ar their flights. not working. >> the flight was amazing. no problems at all. >> cabin crew was fantastic. >> they were volunteers. >> they were brilliant. >> you would never know. >> food was lovely. topped off drinks and food and snack. >> no hot food. it didn't matter. salad was lovely. >> great. >> no problem at all. >> the cabin crew union is planning another walkout in two weeks if the contract dispute is not settled. governments switched to electronic benefits cards in an effort to reduce food stamp fraud but the switchay have actually made it easier to scam the system. we're fog to show you why, and share your views on what's happening here. g to show you wh share your views on what's happening here. o to show you wh share your views on what's happening here. ing to show you d share your views on what's happening here.
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i see you getting fired up by today's your views question a two-fer on food stamps. but first, though. nearly 1 in 8 americanis on food stamps.
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and now it looks like an effort to prevent fraud created new opportunities for scammers. a ten-week undercover investigation revealed transactions for alcohol, cigarettes and even cold hard cash and it could be costing all of us billions of dollars. take a look. >> can i get 100 back off of this? >> what you want? >> i wanted 100 back. >> uc's out. small bag in her hand. >> what you saw there is the store employee running the debit card and the clerk keeping $100 for the store and giving the agent $100 back, plus the goods. florida department of law enforcement officials say it is illegal. >> it's directly stealing from e taxpayers of the united states. >> see what they do is they charge the u.s. government $212.02. ebt food benefit. food balance. all that. and they give us $100 in cash. cigarettes and chips. for $212.
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>> the debit card the undercover agent used is called an electronic benefit transfer card or ebt, which can only be used to purchase food. such cards are supposed to reduce fraud in the food stamp system. authorities believe during the past year 16 stores in florida alone defrauded taxpayers of $3.5 million. officials say they can't provide nationwide figures but they estimate it's in the billions of dollars. more americans getting food stamps are young and well educated. an article at salon.com calls it hipster welfare revolution. large numbers of 20s and 30s somethings with college degrees are now collecting government assistance. unemployment in that age group has doubled since 2007. and salon reports many of them are finding government benefits can be used to satisfy gourmet tastes. yeah. under the government's rules, food stamps are good for just about anything people can eat including organic vegetables, exotic meats and high dollar cheeses. so, what do you think about
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young hip sterps collecting food stamps to pay for sushi and artisan bread? are people using their food stamp credit cards to g cash for everything but food? several of you have commented on face the book about this. sommer writes, they do want us healthier, right? they say organic is better for you. i'm not sure what i'd do in the situation, but what does it matter? it's food, which is the puose, right? trish says, i'm sure the democrats think it's a civil right for them to be supported bid we american fools who work for a living and pay for their gourmet tastes. gretchen writes the food stamps only go so far, so if they want to consume upscale food, they will have to just consume less of it and make do. all right, so, we want to know, what do you think of the current od stamp system? is it working like it should? or, is it being abused? send us an e-mail at cnn.c cnn.com/hln. big story worth watching here. google, the internet giant, reportedly will announce that it is shutting down operations in
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china. according to the china business news, google is pulling out because the chinese government blocks access to websites containing political or sexual content. the company hasn't offered any comment on the report. all internet companies must renew their licenses by china at the end of this month, and goodle h been hinting it might not do that. chinese state-run media are blasting the company. one editorial calls google's position ridiculous. a lot of activists use the internet to raise awareness for their causes, but the internet may be causing the effort to save some endangered plants and animals. the kaiser spotted newt here is one of those animals. today, the convention on international trading voted overwell. ingly to ban the trade of this reptile. the world wild life fund says the newt has been devastated by internet trade. and a proposal by the u.s. and sweden to regulate the trade in red and pinning coral was defeated. the coral is used to make coral
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that is sold on the internet. highways across tenness are littered with rock sides right now, and detours aren't the only headaches. talk about being between some rocks and a hard place. look at this. why this driver didn't see what was coming.
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an historic day in washington. house demrats need 216 yes votes to pass health care reform. and leaders say they have got all the votes that they need. the house will actually have three votes today. the first one is on the terms of debate and then comes the vote on the senate passed reform package. if it's approved, it goes to president obama. and finally, there will be a vote on a package of changes to the senate plan that's included in a budget reconciliation measure. republican leaders vow to do all they can to block passage. the health care debate in washington has spilled out onto the streets in cities around the country. we got this video from salt lake city. supporters and opponents are rallying this weekend, in
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st-ditch efforts to influence lawmakers. in california, people on both sides of the battle picketed incumbent democrats in swing districts. >> if you want to x the people right out of existence, keep it up. what we've seen, millionaires are not as plentiful as they used to be and folks that make that kind of money don't make that money anymore. and they are going to actually think that money is going to come in, and it's not. they are going to have to grab $200,000 and up. when that didn't work, they are going to grab $150,000 and up. >> that same population has had enormous tax relief in the last decade. under the tax cults that were enacted by president bush, former president bush. >> supporters in california say the health care bill would help their state, since it has the largest public insurance program for the poor. opponents claim it will raise taxes for everyone.
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more than half dozen recent rock slides are making it really tough to get around in tennessee. a scenic highway through the smoky mountains and several key routes in north carolina are closed. the result of the rock slides can be really nasty. ta a look. >> i'm okay. didn't even see it. >> how do you not sea huge pile of boulders in the middle of the road like this? the driver says he was so busy watching police, and a news crew, he drove right into this rock slide debris in knoxville. >> i didn't even see that thing. i'm lucky to have hit it in a way to not get too hurt. my dog here, she probably took a pretty good hit but he's all right. >> the dog may be all right, but the highway certainly isn't. it's closed until engineers figure out how to shore up the mountainside above the 11-mile stretch, which is, notice the dragon, because of its 300-plus curves. other areas are unstable, including one in november that was caught on camera, with spectacular results. take a look.
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wow. all these rock slides have cost nearly $14 million to clean up. look at this. the detours are cutting into local business profits. some engineers who help build the roads in the area predicted they would be bombarded with regular rock slides but the lay of the land just made it impossible to put the road anywhere else. the town in tennessee has lost a piece of its history to fire. firefighters battled the flames in a 100-year-old downtown building that housed three local businesses. look at the smoke. the nephew of one store owner says they have insurance, but their personal possessions were lost, including awar wo by his uncle, a decorated paraplegic athlete. >> only man in the world to get eight gold medals at one time. >> investigators are trying to
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point point a cause of the fire. a consultant says at least the center portion of the building where the fire started will likely be a tol loss. flooding threatens st. paul, minnesota and others in the city, as well. the mississippi river will reach major flood stage by today, and willrest on wednesday in st. paul. governor tim pawlenty says people all over the state have worked hard to minimize the damage. >> confident in the flood fight. there will be damage. there will be so flooding. we believe it will be a manageable event in large part because of the incredible preparation, skill and leadership of minnesotans across the state who rallied to fight this flood and put maximum preparations in place to have an effective flood fight this year. >> a temporary levee is expected to protect st. paul since it's five feet higher than the predicted river level. a category 3 cyclone slammed
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astore in australia, with winds up to 124 miles per hour. it was downgraded as it moved inland, but still, very dangerous. it knocked out power to about 60,000 homes. the storm smashed at least a dozen boats against the rocks at one beach. there are no reports of injuries. the australian government warned people to take shelter from the storm. a volcano that sat quietly for nearly 200 years has erupted in iceland. look here. hundreds of people are fleeing from nearby villages. so far,no reports of injuries. geologists feared the eruption took place under the glacier that covers southern icand. that could have triggered floods. but airplanes flying over the volcano confirm the eruption is abov the ice shelf. it's the first eruption of this volcano sie 1821. all right, so, you've heard stories like this before. a baby born in the back of a cab. but wait until you hear who was driving.
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it is time to pass health care reform for america. >> the american people are saying stop and they're screaming at the top of their lungs. >> when i looked at that photo, i said, by darn, that certainly does look like a skeleton. >> it's directly stealing from the taxpayers of the united states. >> i'm okay. i didn't even see it. >> that was something. you're watching hln "news and views." hi there. i'm natasha curry.
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thanks for joining us. house democratic leaders say they're one step closer to passing health care reform. it takes 214 to pass the bill when it comes to the floor for a final vote today. democratic leaders cleared a major hurdle when the leader of ant anti-abortion representatives came out in favor of the bill. >> there are some questions that underneath in this bill that somehow you could pay for abortions with the new funds being aprop rated, being aprop rated for the community health centers. that is not possible with this executive order. the real winner is really the american people. 31 million more americans will have health insurance. we will no longer be able to rescind insurance companies on the whim of the insurance companies. pre-existing conditions will no longer stop you from coverage. your college kids will be able to stay on your coverage longer.
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no need for americans to go into bankruptcy because of health care. >>epublican leaders are still promising to do everything they can to stop the health care measure from reaching the president's desk. >> the american people are sick and tired of runaway federal spending, of borrowing and bailouts and takeovers, and i believe this is going to be a historic weekend. it's going to be different in the way that jo thinks it's going to be. i think this is going to be a historic weekend because i think this weekend is going to be the beginning of the end of business as usual in washington, d.c. >> the congressional budget office estimates the measure, would extend insurance coverage to 32 million americans, an reduce the deficit by $138 million over ten years. protesters interrupted the house proceedings today. one person stood up in the gallery and yelled "kill the bill." it's hard to hear at first, but listen to the reaction of the house republicans after the protester speaks up.
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[ applause ] >> the chair notices a diskur balance in the gallery in the law and the rules of the house. the sergeant at arms will remove those persons responsible and restore orderer to the gallery. the house will be in order. >> the protester was escorted out and cheered by some republicans. representative barney frank, a democrat, called those republican members clowns. now, it's not just inside the gallery. there were plenty of protesters outside, too. yesterday, some of them reportedly yelled an guy gay commercials at frank, and three african-american lawmakers said that protesters yelled racial slurs at them. representative emanuel cleaver of missouri evenaid a protester spit at him. capitol police arrested one rson. every piece of legislation that goes befo the house must get a rule from the rules committee. the house must adopt the rule vote before debating the actual bill. that's the first order of business this afternoon.
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if the rule pagszs, then debate begins on two health care bills. the first hour focuses on the senate bill. the second hour is devoted to amendments to the senate measure, included in a budget reconciliation resolution. republicans are expected to offer what is call a motion to recommit. that will be the minority paratip's last chance to kill the bill. before the dame over, the house will hold the two big votes, first on the health care senate bill, then on the reconciliation package. it could be a new tip in the search for nathalalee holloway. here is a photo. take a look. the tourists that snapped the foe show think it should show the skeleton of holloway who disappeared nearly five years ago. they talked with hln's nancy grace. >> to john muldowney, what do you recall when you first took a really hard look at this photo? how did that come about? >> when i looked at that photo,
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i said, "by darn, that certainly does look like a skeleton." but i started showing it around to different people, getting comments, what do you think? i would just tell them to look at this picture, what do you see? and of course there's that little snake that pat was taking on the right side of the picture. and then they'd look and say, "oh, my god, yes, that looks like a skeleton, a human body." >> the main suspect, joran van der sloot, remains free. he reportedly claimed he threw holloway's by in the ocean after she suffered a seizure on the beach. aruban judges have ruled there is not enough evidence to arrest him. a german archbishop has reportedly admitted that the catholic church covered up s abuse by priests. the german newsmagazine "focus" reports the archbishop says the abuse was covered up f decades. the report com just a day after pope benedict xvi apologized for sexual abuse by priests in ireland.
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in a letter, the pope said he was truly sorry for what happened but for some sex abuse victims, it's just not enough. >> sorry is the beginning. and that's all it is. it's the beginning. we need to see the pope coming here. he needs to hear us, meet us in the flesh. he needs -- we need to see him with our abusers in a reconciliation forum. >> cnn's senior vatican official john allen sys the vatican has to do something to deal with the abuse charges. >> today the tone is very, very different. ani think that's a recognition on the part of the vatican that, even though it can't soup per vise directly the 400,000 catholic priests around the world, people are looking to it for leadership. it's got to come through. >> the pope said the abusers must answer to god and tribunals for their crimes. all of the votes from iraq's parliamentary ections have yet to be counted but iraq's prime minister is calling for a hand recount.
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nuri al maliki says that a recount would preserve the integrity of the electoral process. so far, the vote counting from last month's balloting has been slow. the results are still too close to call. british airways is flying at least half of its normal schedule on the second day of a walkout by its cabin crews. the airline says it's managed to make nor flights than expected. ba is hoping to operate 65% of its schedule during the strike. the junior for flight attendances claims 80% arenot working. some transatlantic passengers report they saw n problems with their flights. >> the flight was amang. no problems. >> cabin crew was fanttic. >> they were volunteers. >> i know. they were brilliant. >> food was lovely. topped off the drink and food. >> no hot food, but it doesn't matter. the salad was lovely. no problem at all. >> the cabin crew union is planning another walkout in two weeks if the dispute is not settled. governments switched to
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electronic benefit cards to reduce food stamp fraud, but it may have actually made it easier to scam is system. we're going to show you why, and share your views on what's happening there.
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i see you there, getting fired up by today's "your views" question, a two-fer on food stamps. well, first, though, a startling statistic. nearly 1 in 8 americans is on food stamps. and now it looks like an eort to prevent fraud actually created new opportunities for scammers. a ten-week underkovler investigation revealed transactions for alcohol, cigarettes and even cold hard cash, and could be costing all
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of us billions of dollars. take a look. >> can i get a hundred bacoff of this? >> what you want? >> 100 back. >> uc's out. small bag in her hand. >> okay. what you just saw there as the store employee ran the debit card was the clerk allegedly keeping $100 for the store and then giving an undercover agent $100 back plus the goods. florida department of law enforcement officials say it is illegal. >> it's directly stealing from the taxpayers of the united states. >> see, what they do is, they charge the u.s. government $212.02. ebt food benefit, food balance, all that, and they give us $100 in cash. cigarettes and chips. for $212. >> now, the debit card the undercover agent used is called an electronic benefit transfer card or ebt which can only be used to purchase food. such cards are supposed to reduce fraud in the food stamp system.
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authorities believe during the past year 16 stores in florida alone defrauded taxpayers of $3.5 million. officials can't provide nationwide figures but they estimate it's in the billions of dollars. more of thamerans getting food stamps are the young and well educated. an article at salon.com calls it the hipster welfare revolution. large numbers of 20 and 30-somethings with college degrees are now collecting government assistance. unemployment in that age group has doubled since 2007. and salon reports many of them are finding government benefits can be used to satisfy gourmet tastes. yeah. under the government's rules, food stamps are good for just about anything people can eat, including organic vegetables, exotic meats and high-dollar cheeses. >> so, what do you thinkbout young hipsters collecting food stamps to pay for sushi, brie, and artisan bread? or people using their food stamp debit cards to get cash for everything but food?
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well, sovrj of you have commented. phillip writes, if they heat poorly and don't have health insurance, we'll pay more on the back end. i'm not going to hate on young folks who take food stamps and don't use them on ramen noodles. jennifer writes, i don't get assistance because i know there are much less fortunate people that need it. it is too easy today to get free money. danielle writes, if they now have the money to buy more healthy options, sure. they wonder why america is fat. it's because the healthier options are much more expensive. all ght, so, we want to know, what do you think of the current food stamp system? it is working like it should? or, is it being abused? send us an e-mail at cnn.com/hln. a lot of activists use the internet to raise awareness for their causes, but the internet may actually to save some endangered plants and animals. the kaiser spotted newt here is one of those animals. today, the convention on international trading voted
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overwhelmingly to ban the trade of this reptile. the world wild life fund says the newt has been devastated by internet trade. a proposal by the u.s. and sweden to regulate the trading of red and pink coral was defeated. the coral is used to make jewelry that is sold extensively on the internet. highways across tennessee are littered with rock slides right now, and detours aren't the only headaches. talk about being between some rocks and a hard place. look at this. why this driver didn't see what was coming.
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a historic day in washington. house democrats need 216 yes votes to passealth care reform, and leaders say they have got all the votes that they need. the house will actually have three votes today. the first one is on the terms of debate. then comes the vote on the senate-passed reform package. if it's approved, it goes onto president obama. finally, there will be a vote on a package of changes to the senate plan included in a budget reconciliation matter. republican leaders vow to do all they can to block passage. president obama may win the vote on health care, but he may not win the white house office pool for the ncaa basketball championship. a lot of people picked kansas to win this year's tournament, including the president. but you know what, that is not going to happen. the jayhawks were stunned last night by northern iowa. the number nine-seeded panthers upset kansas 69-67 to advance to the sweet 16.
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a close game. the president wasn't alone in picking kansas to take the crown. 4.8 million people, turns out, filled out brackets on espn.com and 43% picked kansas to win it all. okay, i picked them, too. less than 1% of those brk kaelts put northern iowa in the sweet 16. more than half a dozen recent rock slides are making it really tough to get around in tennessee and north carolina, and the results of those rock slides can be nasty. take a look. >> i'm okay. man, i didn't even see it. >> how do you not see a huge pile of boulrs in the middle of the road like this? driver andy edmonds said he was so busy watching police and a news crew he drove right into this rock slide debris in knoxvie. >> i didn't even see that rock fall there. i'm lucky to have hit it in a
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way to not get too hurt. my dog here probably took a pretty good hit, but she's all right. >> the dog may be all right, but the highway certainly isn't. it's closed until engineers figure out how to shore up the mountainside above the 11-mile stretch known as the dragon, because of the 300-plus curves. another slide in november was caught on camera with spectacular results. take a look. wow. all these rock slides cost nearly $14 million to clean up. look at this. the detours are cutting into local business profits. some engineers who helped build the roads in the area predicted they'd be bombarded with regular rocklide but the lay of the land just made it impossible to put the roads anywhere else. streets in st. paul are closed right now as flooding threatens that city and many others in the state, as well.
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the mississippi river will reach major flood stage by today, and will crest on wednesday in st. paul. governor tim pawlenty says people all over the state have worked hard to minimize the damage. >> confident in the flood figh again, there will be danger. there will be some flooding, wi. but we believe it will be a manageable event. in large part because of the incredible preparation skill and leadership of minnesotaians across the state who rallied to fight this flood and put maximum preparations in place to have an effective flood fight this year. >> a temporary levee in st. paul expected to protect against flooding since it's about five feet higher than the predicted river vel. people in fargo, north dakota, are just about ready to claim victory in their battle against risingloodters. rising sandbags are about to hit the river as they crest. forecasters call for drier weather. the river should be back in the
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banks by the end of the week. officials say they were tter prepared for this year's floods than last year. some yards, bike paths and sports fields flooded. there are no reports of major damage. a volcano that sat quietly for nearly 200 years erupted in iceland. look here. hundreds of people areleeing om nearby villages. so far, there are no reports that anyone's been hurt though. geologists initially feared the eruption took place under the glacier that covers southern iceland. that could have triggered devastating floods. but airplanes flying over the volcano confirmed the eruption is bofr the ice shelf. it's the first eruption of this particular volcano since 1821. all right. so you heard stories like this before. baby born in the back of a cab. but wait until you hear who was driving! dddddddddddd
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