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acquittal, our prayers for justice, let it roll down like a river. nancy grace. signing off. ♪ ♪ >> i'm chris wallace. public health officials warned of a winter surge as covid cases rise across the country. the biden administration vaccine mandate faces challenges and courts. >> private businesses suing the government over rules requiring shots for testing for tens of millions of workers. >> the president does not have the authority to force people to get a vaccine and then threaten them with their jobs.
>> were confident in our authority to protect american workers. >> will ask surgeon general vivek murthy over debate versus public health and personal freedom they will get reaction from texas attorney general ken paxton who state is at the forefront of legal battles over vaccines, masks, abortion and voting rights. plus trump advisor steve bannon hit with contempt of congress charges for refusing to provide information to the house committee. investigated that generates six attack on the capital. will ask her sunday panel about the test of the president's executive privilege powers. and our power player of the week, virginia's incoming lieutenant governor winsome sears on how she made history. >> i think they wanted to take a chance on me, their child of politicians that want that the wounds of the past heal. chris: all right now on "fox news sunday".
hello again from fox news and washington. here is the new spike in covid cases across the country, just as a federal appeals court has blocked one of the main ways president biden wants to fight the virus. the court ruled for the second time against the new administration role that businesses with more than 100 workers must mandate vaccines or weekly test or phase thousands of dollars in fines. the court says the rule grossly exceeds the government's authority and rejects the argument stopping the mandate could cost dozens or even hundreds of lives per day. in a moment will speak with the u.s. surgeon general doctor vivek murthy and will get reaction from texas attorney general ken paxton, who is suing the administration. let's bring in david spunt at the white house with the very latest on the administration stop against covid and its
critics. >> during his first few months in office. president biden pushed back against vaccine mandates that covid infections rose and now changed. >> the biden white house receiving another blow from a federal court halting the vaccine and testing requirements pending review a judge on the fifth circuit court of appeals in new orleans in an opinion late friday wrote the public interest is also served by maintaining a constitutional structure and maintaining the liberty of individuals to make intensely personal decisions according to their own convictions even or perhaps particularly when those decisions frustrate government officials. white house officials insist that mandate is literally a lifesaver. >> we are confident in our authority to protect american workers and this virus is killing 1100, approximately 1100 beer cans a day. >> the department of justice prepared to fight all the way to discipline part writing apart the department will vigorously
defend the standard and looks forward to obtaining a definitive ledge luncheon resolution with consolidation of the pending cases for further review. the mandate lost to a growing list of supply chain issues in the highest inflation rate in 30 years and it spells trouble ahead for a president not even a year into his term. >> even the wages are going up, we still face challenges and we have to tackle them head-on. >> tomorrow president biden will sign the bipartisan infrastructure package into law, he will head out into the road to new hampshire. chris: david spunt reporting from the white house. joining is now u.s. surgeon general doctor vivek murthy, welcome back to fox's sunday. >> thank you so much, good to see you again. chris: covid cases are up 11% over the past two weeks you can
see the spike across the country. the virus is on the rise in 20. some states some states more than 50%, two thirds of u.s. counties have high community transmission. as the weather gets colder and people spend more time indoors, what are the chances that we will see another winter surge? >> the good news, we are well down from the peak that we hit during the delta waiver earlier this year, early summer. as winter approaches people going indoors and the virus is able to transmit in cold dry air. we know that increases the possibility that there will be spread. a couple of things are critical, number one if you are vaccinated of getting six intrinsic and transmitting the virus to somebody else much lower and
makes it important as winter approaches. and second, if you're eligible to get a booster shot, it's especially helpful if you go ahead and do that now. as winter approaches again and people get prepared for the holidays. we should be prepared for the fact that there may be an uptick in cases that we see in various parts of the country with cold weather. the last year is still true, the vaccine give you a high degree of protection against the worst outcomes of covid hospitalization and death. chris: you talk about being eligible for the booster. three states california, colorado and new mexico have jumped ahead of federal authorities and said anyone, everyone above the age of 18 can now get a booster. do you have a problem with that? >> i certainly understand why these states are doing and what's happening in their own states. there seem cases go up and they want to have protection for the entire state. i get that, what people should
know is the fda has already made millions of people eligible for booster shots, people above 65 who have other illnesses up with them a higher risk and higher risk for exposure. most of the people eligible who have not gotten a booster shot and we want to focus on that but people should know the fda is considering broadening eligibility from pfizer to do so. but they want to take a close look at the data and make sure the booster shots are safe and effective for the population that are not currently eligible. once they determine that they will make a recommendation. the bottom line millions of people can get boosters, we want them to get boosters. that will extend and enhance the protection that they ready been getting from the vaccine. chris: there is reportedly a split inside the biden administration between folks like dr. fauci and you you
reported late favor making boosters available to all adults in the cdc director doctor walensky who is reportedly not as persuaded that young healthy adults need the extra protection. does this split inside the administration add to the public confusion about vaccinations? >> i'm glad you asked that question. their reality there is much more agreement that people appreciate. in august all three of us dr. fauci, dr. walensky and myself and other medical leaders within the administration including fda commissioner and the nih director and others all signed a letter saying that we believe that protection was starting to wane and boosters would be needed sometime later in the year across the age spectrum 18 and above. what we also said in the letter
that we wanted the cdc in the fda to weigh in on the efficacy and the safety of booster shots. all that remains true. while we have millions of people eligible for booster shots we are going during fda process and will go through cdc process to see if eligibility should be widened. the bottom line all of us are on the same page about the strong protection and we know where boosters are indicated that they will be helpful to extend the protection against covid-19. chris: on friday the fifth circuit court of appeals in new orleans for the second time continue to block the biden administration mandate that all businesses with more than 100 employees vaccinate their workers or they get a test. here's what the judges wrote, rather than a delicately handled scalpel, the mandy is a one-size-fits-all sledgehammer that makes hardly any attempt to
account for differences in workplaces. you are not a lawyer so i'm not going to ask about the legal reasoning but a public health expert. if the courts continue to block the vaccine mandate for big companies with over 100 employees, what is the impact on public health. >> i think it would be a setback for public health. what we know very clearly when people get vaccinated and the more people to get vaccinated the quicker we can bring the pandemic to an end and the more lives we can save. that's my primary concern as a doctor in a public health expert. how do we in this pandemic as quickly as possible and save lives in the process. it's really important that people understand about the requirements are a few things, they are not new we've had requirements in various settings in our countries since the founding of the united states of america since the 1800s, workplaces like hospitals, requirements for vaccines for
years in the military has had such requirements. we know that they work remarkably well even with covid-19 leasing a 20% bump in vaccination rates with organizations that put those in place. many already have, many businesses are not waiting for the federal mandate. the fortune 100 companies have put requirements in place and millions of people have gone vaccinated with adults. what is the heart of this vaccine requirement strategy is to create safer workplaces for workers and customers and increase vaccination rates overall because that is how that is our shared goal as a country. chris: of public safety is the issue, how do you balance the drive for more vaccinations, with the fact that police and healthcare workers in a number of studies are walking up the jobs and now you have the oklahoma national guard refusing the mandate to get vaccinated.
>> what i think is important in the broader picture is the vast majority across this country, the vast majority are in fact in line with it the general requirements. we've seen that in the businesses that put these requirements in place. many have achieved a greater than 95% adherence if you will with the vaccine requirements. chris: i just want to say the other hand there is a large percentage thousands of border patrol agent to have a been vaccinated and threatening to leave the job you see police departments in big cities and healthcare workers and as i say now the entire oklahoma national guard. >> here's what's important i think number one i think everyone's point of view matters and for those who are concerned about the vaccine requirements. it's important for them to have their questions answered and their concerns heard but if her
concerned about the safety of the workforce, the biggest threat to our workforce in hospitals and police force and other workforces has been covid itself. the number of workers that have gotten sick and been quarantined off the job or lost their lives, it's extraordinary and really heartbreaking during this pandemic. we want to protect our workers, the vaccine requirements will ultimately help us to advance at cost to the greatest extent that we need to. chris: for a lot of people this comes down to personal freedom and the green bay packers quarterback aaron rodgers came down, i see you nodding with covid after deciding to take alternative treatments instead of the vaccination, he spoke out this week, take a look. >> i believe strongly in a ptolemy and to be able to make choices for your body and not to awoke culture.
chris: doctor when you say to aaron rodgers? >> i think the principle of freedom and health in general is very important in freedom is very important to my family in this country, immigrants years ago and brought so many immigrant families to this nation. it's extraordinarily important. but keep in mind we are a community of 300 million people we are not individuals entirely on our own in any community, sometimes our decisions to affect other people, it's why we have speed limits on highways because we know our decision on how fast we drive affects others. when it comes to getting vaccinated we know people were unvaccinated spreading it to others and why many settings we made the decision as a community to require vaccines in schools all across her country and in workplace settings. that's why these are important. while freedom is absolutely important we have a collective responsibility to one another when our decisions impact the
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chris: texas has been taken on the biden administration on a range of issues from abortion to voting reform and now vaccine mandates. they all have one thing in common they cross the desk of the law enforcement officer. joining us now is a texas attorney general ken paxton. mr. paxton you are suing the biden administration over the vaccine mandate which you say is unconstitutional in the federal overreach but coronavirus, the virus is killing more than a thousand people every day and a top white house spokesperson had a question this week. take a look. >> the question is why are these legislatures, these republicans getting in the way of saving lives, getting in the way of making sure the economy is working as well and getting out of this pandemic.
that is the question for them. >> how do you answer that question sir? >> first of all i'm not in the legislature so i can't answer for our legislature. but i think they want people to have choices over their own decisions so the healthcare with their doctors advice. people have different opinions about what that should be for them mission to be made by the fellow government from joe biden's desk. chris: i want to play a clip from you this week going against the vaccine mandate. take a look. >> i would urge businesses, don't listen to the president he is bullying americans and bullying businesses. what they should do is take care of their own businesses in their own workers. chris: use a texas company should take care of their own workers. given that, how do you justify the governor of texas, greg abbott issuing an executive order that bans any business in
texas from issuing a vaccine mandate and how do you justify the governor issuing a ban on all school districts unmask mandates. a band that was overturned just this week by a federal judge? >> i justify the governor has the authority under state law and an emergency to respond to these types of issues. he has done just that. obviously that these mask mandates are unnecessary and vaccine requirements are also unnecessary. it's my job to defend what he's done and what the legislature has done i'm perfectly comfortable doing that. chris: i want to drill down on this a little bit. you said that you think texas companies should take care of their own workers. is that consistent with the governor's executive order in your enforcement of the order which spans companies from taking care of their own workers as they see fit? >> what i was trying to say in
the clip, the president doesn't have the authority to force companies. obviously we've got to stay in the fifth circuit to stop them from forcing companies to require their workers to get the vaccine or be fired. what i'm saying to these companies she don't have to listen to him because he is out there saying you should do anyway despite the fact that we have a stay from a higher court. >> you said the businesses should take care of their own workers and the governor is saying they can't take care of their own workers if they see fit. they are prohibited from deciding if they so choose to issue a vaccine mandate. that is not consistent. >> were dealing with different types of requirements, we have state government requirements, it is clear that the government has a different executive order for them and we've been all types of litigation from school districts and counties trying to
stop them from forcing mandates in san antonio vaccines and we've been successful. no lawsuits against businesses. a lot more freedom for businesses to make their own decisions. i would say they should definitely consider the employees. were in a situation with our economy where we can healthcare workers and law enforcement officers. that is happening all over the country and i think you have a negative impact on our economy and our ability to help people. chris: i want to go through this one more time. if you're saying they should have the authority and the ability to decide what their workers should do. the governor's executive order prohibits them from deciding what to do. he bans vaccine mandates. as in a mandate by the federal government, is there a difference between a mandate to get a vaccine from the federal government is different in terms of the ability to take care of their own from estate mandates not to have vaccine mandates?
>> i think your question is a little confusing for the federal government has no authority to do this. right now we have osha guidelines not authorized by congress. they absolutely have no authority to do the spring the government has a different authority under state law that the legislature has given his operating under the state law. chris: he can tell private businesses what to do, that's okay and they can take care of their own? >> i definitely agree that states have more authority over these areas than the federal government. the federal government has limited authority if congress is not great to osha and i would question whether congress has authority. states have a lot of authority to deal with what's going on in their states and i think that's clear from the founding of our country. chris: you're also in court defending the new abortion law in texas that deputize is anyone, however, disconnected from it for charging and suing anyone who assist in an
abortion. i want to put up what you said. you said the texas law is not at odds with the roe v. wade merely creating the potential for liability for some abortions is not a ban. mr. attorney general are you saying if someone wants to assist with an abortion and pay the $10000 fine but that's okay? >> i'm not saying it's okay is a violation of state law. i am not responsible, i defend them and we are doing on the legislature has made a choice about how they will regulate abortion and how they will protect the unborn and they've done it here in my job is to defend the lawsuits we done all the way to the supreme court. this case so far is not about the substance of whether roe v. wade will be overturned as whether the federal government and the plaintiffs have standing to sue me the attorney general who has no authority to implement any of this.
chris: let me ask you a direct question what do you think of the abortion law in texas? >> i applaud the legislature for doing anything that they can to protect human life. they try to balance the current supreme court provisions and cases with what they want to do in the state, they are elected by people in the state and they have the right to pass whatever laws that they want and will deal with them in court when it comes up. chris: let me ask you about one aspect. the law makes no exception for cases of rape and incest. if the pregnancy results from a crime like rape or incest, you have no problem with forcing the woman to carry a fetus to term. >> i didn't pass this one, whether i was a legislature i would've made some changes, i don't know basically what i had the opportunity. i defend what the legislature put in place and i'm glad to do my job representing the people of texas.
chris: i'm asking you as a public official you must have an opinion you think there should be an exception for rape and incest as their most abortion laws in the country ordeal favor what texas did to say there's no exception for rape or incest? >> here's what i would say i think it's very important to protect life, i think this bill is defensible and i think we are going to do a really good job defending it read gone to the supreme court twice and the first time we were successful, i have no idea what will happen on the second round but again we are not talking about the substance were talking about procedure which is whether they have standing to sue us which we don't believe that they do. chris: you fascia on legal problems as you well know, you're under indictment on an allegation of security fraud in your also the subject of an fbi investigation because former top officials in your own office
accused you of bribery. george p busch, the son of jeb bush is running against you next year, you're seeking reelection as attorney general. here's what he says. our top lawyer needs to be above, there shouldn't be a question of one's character and confidence for this important role. have a problem do you think these allegations against you will be in your effort to win reelection? >> i been dealing with despite, when you do the type of things that i've done you'll be challenged and have issues like this pop up. this happened seven years ago, i was reelected when i happen and i think we've done a great job defending the state of texas. that's what i'm going to talk about what my job is to do for the state of texas and make sure i'm defending the state and the governor, the legislature and i will continue to do that job. chris: thank you, thank you for coming in, good to talk to you.
>> have a great day, thank you for having me on. chris: will bring in our sunday group to discuss former trump advisor steve bannon's indictment of contempt of congress charges for refusing to appear before the january 6 committee. that is next. ♪ [engine humming] [clapping] “we will rock you” by queen ♪ the new gmc sierra with hands-free driving offers the most advanced and luxurious pick-up in its class. ♪ yeah, it rocks.
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all hell will break loose tomorrow. chris: steve bannon on january 5, the day before the insurrection of the u.s. capital. bannon has his first court appearance tomorrow i contempt of congress charges for refusing to provide information to the house committee investigating the riot. it is time for our sunday group, former rnc communication director doug hi, julie pace executive editor for the associated press and moa lately of the georgetown university of institute of politics and public service. juliet is rare for the justice department to prosecute criminal contempt of congress charges.
but what does this prosecution and this case say about the ability down the line for the house committee investigating the january 6 riot to be able to hear from former trump advisors despite the former president's claim of executive privilege. >> i think this is a boost for this committee which had been struggling to get key people to show up and talk to them and turn over documents. this is a warning shot from the justice department if individuals who are close to president trump refusing to participate they could face criminal prosecution. i think bannon's case is a bit unique buddies trying to fall within the executive privilege on bella even though he left the white house in 2017 there are questions that we are looking to get from the justice department with mark meadows chief of staff who was in the white house and the executive privilege sent to him. for this committee that wants to
move rapidly and get answers from key people around the president trump this is real potential boost for that. chris: i want to pick up on a couple of the points and julie made. the banning case is different. first of all president trump is no longer the president, he is a former president, as she points out steve bannon was not a white house official at this time. he had been out of the white house since 2017 and also were not talking about the official business of the president. what were talking about investigating a crime which is the insurrection at the capital. what does that say about the strength of bannon's case and is there a big difference between bannon's case and let's say former white house chief of staff mark meadows. >> there is an enormous difference, the former chief of staff mark meadows is going to go through the process of what is allowed in executive privilege and what is it. we don't know those answers that's what we'll find out. bna did not have those protections. when i worked in the house of
representatives for the majority leader congress held eric holder in contempt for not appearing before congress. congress takes his very seriously and whether you're talking about a republican house or democratic house. congress and its oversight is paramount in republicans and democrats should be able to unify. they obviously well but if we have a republican house in the future they will have no hesitation in holding democrats to contempt justice or see now. it may be what the best option may be an independent committee all along. chris: that was blocked by the senate republicans. congressman jamie raskin is a member of the january 6 house committee had a strong reaction this week to the bannon indictment. take a look. >> a criminal defense he violated the law when he stood us up, when he blew off the subpoena and he violated the law when he refused to produce the
documents in the papers we are looking for. >> the problem for the committee, undoubtedly steve bannon and his lawyers are going to try to delay this case as long as possible, do everything that they can procedurally to play it out and there's a good chance, probably better than 50/50, year from now on them in terms, republicans may take control of the house in which case no matter what happens in this case they would probably kill the committee and there's no place for bannon to testify even if his order to. >> i agree with what doug said there are a couple of long term applications here. one is getting to the truth of what happened on january 6. that is first and foremost what this is all about. number two is about establishing and defending the role of congress in oversight. that cannot be a partisan thing.
republicans have held people in contempt, democrats have held people in contempt. if you believe in the rule of law and the constitution and the role that congress plays the new gotta support this. i do think if republicans take over a year from now and kill this endeavor, they are completely underlining their ability to hold oversight in the future. there's a lot of different balls at play here. >> this'll make building.congress in next december 1 of the wildest we have ever seen in washington. >> yes. chris: let me pick up on the idea that they should be above but enter bipartisan and about the law. the house held eric holder, the attorney general for barack obama and contempt in the obama administration and obama justice department refused to prosecute that case. there is politics all over these
cases. >> sure, i do think, you already alluded to this in your earlier conversation. what happens with bannon may be different than others. bannon was not there, he was not in the white house. he talked about this on air video before. there is no way to make the executive privilege claim whether or not others are successful that will play out whether or not you're indifferent, that will play out but this sends a very strong message that they're not playing around and that they want to get to the truth. this is unprecedented it is going to be treated as such. chris: were talking about the reasons of the banning cases but there is talk in washington concerning that it could open up a dangerous precedent in seeing the willingness of the biden administration to go after steve bannon and potentially to go
after people with a stronger case like the white house chief of staff mark meadows that this opens the door for one administration to go after officials in the previous administration. >> that's why i think the decisions are supposed to come for the justice department are more significant. i think steve bannon is a unique situation having left the white house in 2017 and claim executive privilege. there is a precedent that will be set by the decisions that come forward as a sitting chief of staff is going to be prosecuted for failing to appear before congress and talk about his direct conversations with the sitting president of the united states. i think that is something that both parties would have some major concern but i think the justice department as you mentioned earlier, the incident at the center of this discussion. this is an attack on american democracy in the insurrection of the u.s. capital and i think
that raises the significance of these physicians that they are making right now. chris: you wrote an interesting article this week talking about the continued drag that you feel the donald trump and especially his claims of a stolen election have on the republican party going forward in the 22 midterms, explain. >> is not just 2022, is 2024. my big concern if donald trump doesn't run again and nobody knows what he will do except for trump himself, we could have a scenario with 17 republicans running for president like in 2016 and there's no incentive for any republican to accept the results of the iowa caucus or new hampshire primary. they be incentivized if they come in second or third to say it's a fraud and fixed which could cause an entire presidential primary system to be in chaos in a state-by-state rolling tour, that's not something the republican party is prepared for or the country. chris: what that means you have
to make a break with the idea if you're going to establish his principal. working abide by the spirit is also a challenge for the party and for state parties to accept her own results are not and they might call it a question again sitting iowa caucus which was fixed when he lost 2016. chris: when we return how inflation will affect the president's agenda in your plans to sell the mythologies.
>> in some parts of california are paying $4.70 a gallon. >> president biden reacting to the inflation numbers. we are back with the piano. i think it is fair to say that this is the week that inflation really hit home and became a top political issue beyond the overall six-point to percent increase. i want you to look at the spikes in specific items. gas prices at 15%, beef prices up 20%. used car prices up 26%. how big of a problem or president biden and democrats, just a little bit less from a year of the midterms. >> this is a big problem going to get worse provided in the democrats. a "game of thrones", winter is coming, home heating oil prices. fear democrat in the northeast were these prices will be felt
the most, you have a new issue where you need to separate yourself with the president his popularity continues to fall on every poll that we see. chris: what makes it worse for this white house, for months they have been talking down the threat of inflation. listen to them and also former clinton and obama top economic adviser, larry summers has been sounding the alarm for a long time. take a look. >> economists call all these things and transitory effect. >> there's a transitory nature, the inflation problem. >> the policymakers in washington unfortunately have almost every month been behind the curve. they said it was transitory. chris: larry summers said he told them, he did tell them, he was right all along and they were wrong.
>> rule number one of political communication, don't tell people what they're feeling is not real, you can tell them that the situation is temporary, that were going to turn the corner but acknowledging the pain and the concern that people are feeling out-of-the-box is critical. the president's popularity was skyhigh for a while because they were able to go out there and put money in the wallets, but shots in your arms. they got into a big fight they were getting ready to save the jobs of the communities for the infrastructure. daca overcome by a big internal party fight over a big pile of money, a number that didn't really have anything to it that people could wrap their heads around. inflation layered on top of that is a big mess. they've gotta get back out there and say we get it, here's how were going to turn the quarter and here's what the next wave of results are going to look like and how soon you might feel
them. they could still turn the corner but they squandered a couple of months, they have been the broader democratic family, they squandered a couple of months, they gotta get back to put into those results in helping people understand that they get the problem. chris: president biden's answer to how he's going to get a handle on inflation as he says let's pass the $1.7 trillion big social spending plan which he says is going to lower inflation because it will increase worker productivity through a lot of programs. but almost anybody analyzes that bill if it gets past, says in the short term it will boost inflation before in the long-term. >> this is the problem the buy demonstration is going to face if they can get the bill passed and will see how the next couple of days ago. if they can get past they are going to have to go out and argue that it was worth all the
time and energy in the procedural debates that consumed washington for the last couple of months and the reality the actual implementation of those policies will take time, if you're an american you're not following the debate in washington every day and thank goodness for most of you. you're looking at practical measures, you look and how much everyday items cost in your grocery bill and you look next year at those prices and see if there's a change and democrats will argue that long-term the provisions in the bill are good for the country but i think the short term impact is what most people will be looking for particularly heading into the midterms. chris: they do the other striking numbers. enter into and september 4 million americans, 3% of the total national workforce quit their jobs. what does that say about the state of the economy and the impact for democrats going forward? >> it says that voters are nervous about what the future
might hold that their jobs are paying as much as they need to to keep the family going. ultimately the word transitory is a word that's used in washington, d.c., it's not used to contain tables throughout the country. those conversation of the rising gas prices and how much more to put beef on the table. that's a problem the democrats need to address and understand and right now they're not showing that they understand at all. chris: an interesting debate in washington. a lot of it sparked by an interesting article by two democrats, although stray into the republican side, mark and andrew who argued very strongly that this president needs to make a sharp turn back to the center, the way bill clinton did in 1994 after the midterm debacle. first of all, do you think this president is going to take that advice? >> i think we obsess over left versus right versus center in
this town in a way that nobody else does. i think we keep it not left versus right or center but it's front versus back. people feel like they're stuck at the back of the line and they can't get ahead. just talking about people is the way to go. you see in the white house do that this week a little bit. you see them talk about the immediacy and the urgency for their agenda getting past. if it passes, and 2022 you'll see childcare costs come down by eczema and prescription drug prices coming down for seniors by x amount. at least that starts to bring the conversation to the kitchen table that doug was just talking about. that's what this president does very well and he needs to get back to doing after couple of months where washington was just talking about a big pile of money. chris: i'm not sure that i agree because it seems whether the spending a huge amount of money or immigration or crime or what goes on in schools that there is
an increase in perception out there and we certainly saw it play out in virginia and new jersey that democrats and president biden have moved to the left. first of all do you think that's legitimate and they feel that and secondly, do you take that advice and take them back to the center. >> i think this is a huge link space ahead of joe biden, questions about izzy going to try to make a run at the legislation of voting rights. two big democratic priorities particularly on the left that have been stalled out and congress. if you see that as a way to energize the base heading into the midterms. does he spend the year campaigning on what he hopes will be a successful passage of the bill back better plan. i think that's a big decision for him, what does next year look like how does he position himself. they have spent so much time on the two big pieces of
legislation and there's a lot of promises made through a lot of americans who voted for him that have gone unfulfilled. >> of 20 seconds to think joe biden has it in him to move sharply the way bill clinton did in the '90s. >> it certainly where he's comfortable if he feels that's where he needs to go for the party to succeed that might be where he wants to be. chris: thank you, see you next sunday. up next to power player of the week, virginia when some sears on a long shot when near powerful stories. ♪
chris: glenn youngkin's victory in the virginia governor's race is the big story on election night. there was somewhere else on the ballot the also 1 inches creating a stir taking on tough issues and nailing one-liners. here's our power player of the week. >> i've always assumed whatever room i am in i belong. whatever i want to pursue, it is
mine for the taking. chris: virginia republican winsome sears will be taking the office of lieutenant governor. >> how sweet it is what is considered a long shot, to be the first black woman in that post. >> what do you think virginia voters were saying on election day when they made you lieutenant governor. >> there tired against black against white and asian against latino. they are tired of politicians who won't let the wounds of the past heal. >> we were with her as she toured the state capitol in richmond. checking out the senate floor where she will preside. >> how awesome is this. the power of the moment was not lost. >> a black lieutenant governor was handing off to another black lieutenant governor. that has never happened. that is history. >> god bless virginia.
>> at a time when recent education are the focus of charge debate. >> nobody is denying that we don't want to hear all the history. i certainly do not want the sense of the past to be repeated. we don't have to tear one person down in order to build another up, that is no way to be that is not america. >> her love for america's wounded. she immigrated from jamaica and served in the marines. >> everything that i've had i had to work for, no one gave me anything. >> she isn't shy about her lived experiences faces her worldview. >> in case you haven't noticed i am black and i have been black all my life. that is not what this is about. >> sometimes what happens to you is it because you are black or a woman, it is simply life, some days you are the pigeon and some trays you are the statue, it is
just life. >> her victory in her politics in this photo made headlines beyond the commonwealth. >> when elected as virginia's first black female lieutenant governor. this is a win, not the them will get them better than this picture. >> did you think the joke was funny? >> i did because i don't think he knows what he saying. >> the fact that his audience thought it was quite hilarious was also very telling about the character. it's a bunch of hypocrisy but it is all right. i can handle that, i'm a big girl. chris: it's a tenacity that has political insiders asking already if she has bigger plans. >> i want to serve in the end. i want others to see me, especially the children to say if winston can do it i do it because i didn't do anything special except stay in school and study and i never let anybody walk over me.
if they did they didn't get a second chance. winsome sears is ready to cope she takes office on january 15. that is it for today, have a great week and we will see you next "fox news sunday". in this country. i will see you next time on "life, liberty & levin". steve: good evening everyone welcome to "the next revolution". this is the home of positive populism, pro-worker, pro-family, pro-co mmunity, and especially pro-america. on friday the biden regime held its first cabinet meeting but why cracks what is the point what good do they do? last week we noted how refreshing it was to see elected leaders to be positive and practical with the field learned factor with those to