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it instantly relaxed and put me at peace. the last night of his life, i walked in to see him. now he was the one line in an icu bed. he could not see or speak to me. so i took his hand, just as he had taken mind decades before. i knew everything was not going to be okay. i wanted him to be at peace. but again, i felt my father's love in that hand. that hand that took my mother's hand in matrimony. that hand that held me as a baby. that hand that signed report cards, tots baseballs, and sold old cars. that hand that signed treaties
and war orders, saluted service members, and jasper joyfully while telling the story. that hand is still now. but it left a deep imprint on the lives of families and dear friends. soldiers and sailors. presidents and prime ministers of a generation of aspiring young people. ralph waldo emerson said that the purpose of life is not to be happy, it is to be youthful, to be honorable, to be compassionate, to have it make some difference that you have lived and lived well. my father made a monumental difference. he lived. he lived well. i've heard it asked, are we still making his kind? i believe the answer to that question is up to us. to honor his legacy, i hope we do more then consign him to the history books.
>> i invite you to stand. the lord be with you. let us pray. oh, god, whose mercies cannot be numbered, accept our prayers on behalf of thy servant, colin. and grant him an entrance into the land of light and joy, in the fellowship of thy saints. through jesus christ, your son, our lord, who live and reign with the and the holy spirit,
one god, now and forever. amen. almighty god, giver of all comfort, graciously with colin's family and friends in their grief, surround them with thy love, that they may not be overwhelmed by their loss, but have confidence in thy goodness and strength to meet the days to come. through jesus christ our lord, amen.
>> a reading from the prophet mica. with what shall i come before the lord and val myself before god on high? shall i come before him with burnt offerings, with calves a year old? will the lord be pleased with thousands of rams, with 10,000 rivers of oil? shall i give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?
he has told you, o mortal, what is good. and what does the lord require of you? but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your god. the word of the lord. >> i lift up my eyes to the hills, from where is my hope to come. >> my help comes from the lord, who made heaven and earth. >> he will not let your foot be moved, and he who watches over you will not fall asleep.
>> behold, he who keeps will neither slumber nor sleep. >> the lord himself watches over you. the lord is your shade at your right hand. >> the son shall not strike you by day, nor the moon by night. >> the lord shall preserve you from all evil. it is he who shall keep you safe. >> the lord will keep your going out on your coming in from this time forth and forever more. >> i looked, and there was a
great multitude that no one could count. from every nation, from all the tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the land. robed in white with palm branches in their hands, they cried out in a loud voice saying, "salvation belongs to our god, who is seated on the throne, and to the lamb." and all the angels stood around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped god, singing, "amen! blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might be to our god forever and ever. amen!" then one of the elders just me, saying, "who are these robed in white, and where have they come
from?" and i said to him, "sir, you are the one that knows." and he said to me, "these are they who have come out of the great ordeal. they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb. for this reason, they are before the throne of god and worship him day and night within his temple, and the one who is seated on the throne shall shelter them. they will hunger no more, and thirst no more. the sun will not strike them, nor any scorching heat. for the lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and he will guide them to springs of the waters of life, and god will wipe away every tear from their eyes." the word of the lord.
jesus christ, according to john. >> [responsive reading] >> jesus told his disciples, do not let your hearts be troubled. believe in god, believe also in may. in my father's house there are many dwelling places. if it were not so, what i have told you that i go to prepare a place for you? and if i go and prepare a place for you, i will come again and will take you to so that where i am, you may be, also. and you know the way to the place where i am going. thomas said to him, lord, we do not know where you are going. how can we know the way? jesus said to him, "i am the way, and the truth and the life. no one comes to the father except through me."
the gospel of the lord. >> [responsive reading] >> come, holy spirit. fill us with your healing and saving grace. in the name of god, the father, son, and holy spirit, amen. please be seated. mrs. powell, annemarie, linda, michael, your children, and all the family, today we stand in solidarity with you before the
mystery of life and death, in saying our prayers in farewell to colin luther powell, son, loving husband, devoted father, grandfather, friend, soldier, counselor to presidents, senior statesman, man of peace, child of god. i pray you will see less holding you feel usholding you up in this tt most importantly, the loving ars of god around you all. and i hope that also in this brief span of time, in memory and honor of your beloved colin, we may know ourselves more
united as americans. the measure of colin powell's life is good, and a great man is more than any one person can fully take in or tell. these heartfelt, moving, and poignant tributes took us a long way. and so your presence here today, as you stand with this family, all of you, your memories -- indeed, even the person you are -- is now a part of that larger mosaic that tells of the life of colin powell. the love and years you shared as family are forever with you, it imprinted deep within your hearts. and the impact of colin's life on you, his friends, colleagues,
and this nation, reveals the fullest picture that we can have. you know the ways he formed and influenced you, whether up close or through historical events. this man had a discernible gift, to predict gravitas, warmth, and goodness, which called us all to our better selves, to strive for the good and the just, to face billy into duty, and with integrity, resolve, and benevolence, to carry it out. you all have memories of colin powell, in heart, in mind. treasure and share them, but most importantly, place them before god in gratitude. before god who created the wonder and mystery of all
creation gave you the last breath you drew, and who gave colin life from the first, and receives it back again. the great 20th century rabbi abraham joshua was once asked, what is the most important thing a religious person can do? 's answer was given in one word: "remember." that is what we do this day. it is what we do as religious people, every time i gather we hear again and again the sacred stories of encountering god, ancient and cherished. story about god as ineffable mystery, but still revealed to our fragile and mortal humanity. we remember god's saving love for the human race, and in that act of remembering together, the god of life and giver of every
good gift is present to us just as in this moment. this god is the one who raised up and delivered israel out of bondage in egypt, fulfilling ancient promises, and who raised jesus from the dead into resurrection life. colin knew this god through all his years. his faith was of first importance, and his life was marked by those words of the prophet, micah. "he has shown you, o, what is good. to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your god." the god who gathers and comforts us this day is a god of justice and mercy, who seeks to lift up all who seek him.
those who grieve the lost, weary, forgotten, the vulnerable and poor and all in the margins of life. and god wants you to know, in every circumstance of life, that you are beloved, whoever you are, whatever you are, whatever you've done. god looks at you today and he loves you. this is the god we now, who lives seriously, who traffics in life and death, and is known in every dimension of life, even in the crosscurrents of the emotions we experience today. and speaking of many people, in these last weeks, as colin powell's life was remember, there was at the beginning of most of those conversations just the slightest of pauses, sort of a
recalibrating of the mind and the heart, and a realization that we are now talking about a member of the family -- respected, admired, and loved. former secretary of state condoleezza rice captured this in a recent remembrance, writing, "colin love soldiers and always held them to the highest standards, yet he also took time to understand their struggles, personal and professional, and to comfort them when they suffered. the military was his second family, and he cherished the opportunities that it had given him and others." do you hear what is at the heart of this? this might seem unusual, or new to you, but those who serve
together in the profession of arms, especially when in harm's way, come to know that there is a component of love in the bond. and one that you actually depend on. i discovered this personally in 2005 and '06, deploying into the persian gulf as an army chaplain. general colin powell was the epitome of this reality and truth. recently, a dear friend, eric motley, a younger african-american man who grew up as a young boy in madison park alabama, on land that had been ceded to the ancestors of slaves, shared this memory of
me. "when i was in high school, my grandmother give me a photo of general powell adorned with a chest full of metals, and prompting me, you need not look far for your own hero. i carried that photo all through school, and have it to this day. after reading general powell's book, my american journey in college," eric said, "for the first time in my life, i found myself, and all i wanted to be. and all these years later, i still do my best to imitate the man himself, trying to make my life journey as good and honorable and centered in service. i have held a light to his life, and it has been a true affirmation of faith.
." i've often wondered, how many young men, especially young black men, or given that book accompanied by the same admonition: "you need not look far for a hero." there are many loves we recount this day, and all the tributes we've heard, the ones that are deep in your hearts. as beloved wife, children, family, friends, those in the profession of arms, colleagues, and numbers of men and women across our nation. many loves. but i am here to speak with you about an even greater love. we are here today because of a person, and that person is the man in the glory, jesus christ.
in him, the greatest love ever known was given to the world. we know this most supremely in christ's life, death, and resurrection, climaxing on that first easter morning. each gospel varies in telling of those last days of his life, providing both a veracity and a stereoscopic truth unparalleled in all of literature. in his last hours, as jesus was tried, mocked, beaten, humiliated, crucified, and spiked to his cross, he took into himself all the sins of humanity, past, present, and
future. his closest disciples fled in fear into hiding, but finally, strong women came to his tomb. there, god enacted a cosmos-altering explosion of divine light and life, released and searching at god's command, breaking that three-day canopy of silence. and from that tomb, jesus rose to new life, resurrection life, and all creation rises with him. in that newly-beheld radiance that is without analogy, sins
are forgiven. death is vanquished forever. god raised jesus so that you and i might share in his resurrection. and if you turn to him, and accept him in faith, he will come into you and raise you into that new and eternal life now, just as he has for your beloved colin, who now stands upon another shore and in a greater light, with that multitude of stains saints that no mortals can number. in colin's last hours, his loving family went to him in the evening at walter reed to say
goodbye. in the predawn, he took his last breath, fell asleep, and awakened into the heart of god. and now, colin knows intimately of what the 17th-century anglican priest and poet, john dunn, wrote. "bring us, o lord god, in that last awakening, in the household and gates of heaven, to enter into that gate and will in that house, where there shall be no darkness nor dazzling, but one equal light. no noise, nor silence, but one equal music.
no fears, no hopes, but one equal possession. no ends nor beginnings, but one equal eternity in the habitation of thy glory and dominion." colin, may you gaze upon our lord face to face. may angels surround you and saint look and even peace and may your heart and soul ring out enjoy to the living god and in his presence you are held forever. may god bless you all.
♪♪ how great, how great, how great, how great ♪ ♪ thou art ♪♪ >> amen. amen. >> sandra: a nation are members of colin powell, the former u.s. secretary of state, passed away recently. publications due to covid-19. what an absolutely same money we've been watching together, as the nation remembers the four-star general, the first black secretary of state in u.s. history, who served of course from 2001-2005 under the former president george w. bush, who is present there in the front row along with other former
presidts. john, a beautiful ceremony to remember his legacy. >> john: what a crescendo there with the singing of wintley phipps, who has performed for every president from jimmy carter to barack obama. that was just magical. and michael k powell's tribute to his father was so incredibly moving, as well. let's bring in someone who knew colin powell very well, k.t. mcfarland, former top national security advisor. k.t., i love what you wrote in your fox news op-ed. "your presents what a military can and should be. nonpolitical, fiercely patriotic, ambitious for nation but not for self. he believed we needed a strong military not for conquest but to deter our enemies from attacking us. he embodied reagan's peace through strength." what a moving tribute to him today at the national kitschy cathedral.>> i kept looking at t
thinking, gee, they almost seem old-fashioned, those virtues of patriotism and self and self service. i can't help but wonder if what we need to do as a nation's get back to some of those virtues. you know, colin powell's life span from vietnam to afghanistan. i worked with him in the reagan administration. i was a speechwriter, he was a military assistant to the secretary of defense. we are in and out of each other's offices a dozen times a day. i remember him talking about coming back from vietnam, in uniform, driving through the south. his wife, alma, was from the south. when he drove up from the south to new york, where he was from, he couldn't go to the bathroom because the filling stations, the gas stations at the time, had "white only" on the signs. here he was, a man willing to sacrifice his life for the nation in vietnam, and yet the nation wasn't honoring him. before there was barack obama,
before there was condoleezza rice, there was colin powell. he was an iconic figure of a generation and inspired people. he was the role model, he meant toward, and i don't know, i just wish we had a lot more colin powells right now and a lot fewer woke generals. >> sandra: it's always remarkable to see as we have in the front row there, the former president and first lady, michelle obama, hillary clinton stated there with george bush a. it is a beautiful moment as we all mourn the loss of colin powell. i look back at a statement from his family upon his death, saying, "we have lost a remarkable and loving husband, father, grandfather, and a great american." we know colin powell is a great american who served this country dearly, but we had such personal stories. john talked about michael powell, his son, honoring his father with a great story. i doubt there was a dry eye in the cathedral. when michael powell talked about
colin powell coming back after a long day of work and showing up in the icu, in the hospital room, where michael powell as a child lay, and he was squirming in anguish and pain, and colin powell held his son, michael's, hand. he remembers the love in that moment, and he brought it full-circle to the end of his father's life, where he held his hand and felt that same love as he breathed his last breath. >> you know, so many political leaders, and the superstars in washington, when you peel back the onion, you realize they don't have your happy homes, and a not very good parents, and then have a good spouses. but colin powell was. and he was a good friend to people. i remember being in his office the day his son, michael powell, who was in the military and looking forward to a great long career in the army, had an accident. the jeep that he was in overturned, and nobody knew if he was going to live. nobody knew that he was ever going to walk again. i remember colin saying, "you
know, i'm not going to rush to his side. i'm going to let the people in charge of him do their job. i know they'll do it well, but i'll be there for him when he needs me." timmy, again, these averages we kind of forget about today. i think it's important for america to see them, especially to people who don't know colin powell, don't know of him, they are young generation, they don't remember when he was the iconic hero of vietnam, the iraq war, when he was the first black everything. tenets of the chief of staff, national security advisor, secretary of state. i think it's a good example to everyone today that the politics and the dysfunction is not nearly as important to the virtues that make us all americans. >> john: he lived in such a rarefied atmosphere but came from such humble beginnings. he gave the commencement address at my son's high school graduation at the dar constitution hall. he said growing up he wasn't a very good student, he went to the city college of new york. he didn't go to west point. it wasn't until he got into the military that he really found
his calling. but we lived in the same town, and i would run into him at the local subway sandwich shop as he was picking up a couple of sandwiches. we would see him around town and his little pt cruiser that he loved so much. for flying so high, he was also a real down to earth type of fellow. >> i think what i admire about him is that, after he left government, instead of being on corporate boards and being someone on talk shows, he actually sort of found a new career for himself. he wrote books about his own journey, about his life's lessons, but he spent a lot of time mentoring young people, particularly inner-city young people. that's america's promise. in fact, that's what he called his foundation. america's future, america's promise, is a kid like me. poor kid, the bronx, immigrant parents, no real education, not a fancy west point scholarship. yet he is the one who achieved great things. >> sandra: a beautiful ceremony we have been hearing
there at the national cathedral, k.t., as we sort of take in the sounds as we are about to see the conclusion of this funeral. i look back at some of colin powell's most famous quotes over the years, talking about leadership, and how timely that is to hear and see his words. "leadership solving problems. the day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you've stopped leading them." and we remember him for so many reasons, but above all we remember him for his leadership, k.t. >> yeah, and i think as a nation now, after afghanistan, now that we face this threat from china as opposed to the soviet union in the reagan era, we are trying to figure out, what's the purpose of our military? what are they supposed to do, how are they supposed to go to work, how are they supposed to train? we need to rebuild our military after afghanistan, and it's the same thing general powell helped deal after vietnam. it was another war america loss and we left an ignominious chain.
and yet colin powell didn't give up on the military, he didn't leave the military, he stayed and helped rebuild it to be a military that ultimately we didn't have to use but which we were able to enact the cold war without firing a shot. we have to go back and look at, how did he do it, what did he do? and really take those lessons to heart now. >> john: after the first gulf war it was widely believed that colin powell, a republican, might have become the nation's first african-american president. but he said he did not have the fire in his belly to do it, and he also let us know that alma powell, his beloved wife, wanted no part of that, either. >> well, what happened is after the gulf war he wrote a book, he did a national tour. and people said, "we want you to run for president." this was in the late 1990s. he ultimately made a decision not to run, but they were an awful lot of us who knew him and loved him. all called and said, "look, i'll drop everything."
at the time i had five kids. i said i will drop them and come work for your presidential campaign. a lot of people who worked for him and with him were touched not just by the prospect of somebody like colin powell becoming president of the united states, but because of what he would have done. i think he would have been one of the great presidents of our time if he had ever chosen to run. but you know what alma apparent he said to him? this was relayed to me by a bunch of our friends. he said, "look at the crowd i'm getting, i should maybe think about this." and his wife, alma, very down-to-earth and kept his feet firmly on the ground, they said, "they would have showed up like that free mass murder and execution, too ask not" >> john: [laughs] >> sandra: k.t. mcfarland, thank you for joining us for this coverage. and think it harris faulkner who handed it off to us as we still take in the sights and the sounds of this beautiful, beautiful ceremony honoring the late colin powell. jennifer griffin is live at the national cathedral for us as
this continues. jennifer? >> sandra, you just heard beautiful eulogies from michael powell, the son of colin powell. he told funny stories about his father about how he loved to tinker with things, his corvette, when it broke down, and there was a vet who stopped by the side of the road on the way to want to read. how he didn't realize it was colin powell when he was fixing that car, and later his father invited that vet and his family to their home. you had funny stories from richard armitage who had served in vietnam for six years and got to know colin powell in 1981 when they were both serving at the pentagon under president ronald reagan. that friendship of 40 years, you heard richard armitage talk about how they spoke almost every day, sometimes 15 times a day. you heard from former secretary of state madeleine albright. there were times that the two of
them butted heads during the balkan conflict, that she had very warm words for her friend and described how that friendship grew over time. right now we are waiting for the casket to come out of the cathedral behind us. we are here in front of the national cathedral. you have a current president, joe biden, and his wife in the front row seated next to president obama, former president obama, former president bush, secretary of state hillary clinton. it really was a private funeral for a thousand of his closest friends, and yet it looked like a state funeral. you heard the hymns, he was a man who spent a lot of time in the episcopal church, and his faith was very, very important to him. sandra? >> john: it's interesting, too, in the preamble as people were assembling in the church, there was the music played as they welcomed people into the
national cathedral there. bob marley, who have course is from the powell families native jamaica. abba, they played "dancing queen "because powell was a huge fan, as we heard in the service, of abba. at one point i think it was caught on video come him dancing to "dancing queen." if you look at the real enduring velocity of general colin powell, it was the powell doctrine. use overwhelming force of there's no question about the outcome. how far we have we gotten from that philosophy now? >> well, i think what is so surprising looking back over the last 20 years of constant war, really, since 9/11, the fact that the powell doctrine was not invoked in some of those conflicts after 9/11, into afghanistan and into iraq, those wars dragged on and they did not follow colin powell's own
doctrine which he stated so eloquently during the first gulf war when he said that you should not go into a place without overwhelming force, allies, and an exit strategy. so colin powell himself was, to the very end, a soldier. he he was a four-star general, but he always remained a soldier, and that powell doctrine he will be remembered for. i think as the war in afghanistan ended, as the pentagon regrouped, this is an inflection point for the pentagon. people will be going back to the powell doctrine and thinking about that, i think, in the new feature. >> sandra: jennifer, the retiring perception has begun. we'll watch that in the national cathedral.
>> john: as we watch the final journey of general colin powell through the entrance of the national cathedral, the georgia dome at gorges national cathedral in the northern part of washington, d.c. we will come back in jennifer griffin, live at the cathedral. jennifer, set the scene for us there as general colin powell makes his final journey. >> john, i think it was striking that when the bells of the national cathedral began ringing and playing earlier as colin powell was escorted into the cathedral behind me, it was "america the beautiful" that was playing. you've heard some of the hymns chosen. they are uplifting. the sun has come out and we are just waiting for the coffin to
be brought out through these doors behind me here at the cathedral. it is really quite a stunning scene here, very peaceful. when we think back to the last time this cathedral was filled for a state funeral, it was president george w. bush who was being eulogized. and of course he, colin powell, played such an important role in president bush's administration, overseeing, as we mentioned, the first gulf war and the successful prosecution of that brief war which was so significant. colin powell, when we look back on his life, he broke so many barriers. not only being the first black national security advisor, chairman of the joint chiefs, and secretary of state, but he said one of his most proud moments was when his best was placed at fort leavenworth next to a statute that he had
commissioned and placed there for the buffalo soldiers. it was really important to him what he had done in the military, the opportunities that the military had given him, and he always said that the military was a place that was transformational and where racial barriers could really be broken down. because that is where people are promoted based on their skills. >> sandra: jennifer griffin, live at the cathedral for us as we see colin powell's widow there saying her goodbyes to family and friends. k.t. mcfarland is still there with us, as well. k.t., we are taking in some of the pictures at the cathedral as the current president, joe biden, shake the hand of hillary clinton. you see president bush in the front row as the nation remembers and says goodbye to colin powell. >> you know, he wrote a book. his memoir was called "my american journey," and i think
his american journey was our american journey. it shows what america is capable of, while he remained the greatest nation in the world, so i look at him and all the people around him, he was a giant even among the giants that are assembled at the national cathedral today. he stands head and shoulders above most of them. >> sandra: it is a moment that we will all remember, sharing in this final goodbye. we have right back. that's 2.25%, with an apr of 2.48. this is their lowest rate in history. the newday two and a quarter refi can cut thousands of dollars off your mortgage payments. there's no money out of pocket and no up front costs. lock in your rate.
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>> sandra: this is a fox news alert. >> john: you at 2:00 as democrats on capitol hill push forward with president biden's agenda. cricket stomach critics say the far left isn't just missing the message from americans, it's not ignoring it. good afternoon, i am john roberts in washington. sandra, great to spend another hour with you on this friday. >> sandra: good to be with you as well and taken a very special hour for this country. i am sandra smith in new york. ask democrats planning those today on the massive social spending plan. republicans are pointing out they are doing so without any clear picture of how much of this is going to actually cost
american taxpayers. house minority leader kevin mccarthy also saying there are plenty of other problems on their plates. >> from virginia to texas, to seattle coming to minneapolis, need to new jersey, to the mandate to the elected officials. stop catering to the progressive left. they really should be working on fixing our supply chain crisis, but the democratic policies will create even more disruptions. a border that is open, rising gasoline prices and looking to opec to solve the problem instead of allowing american jobs and american workers to solve it. they want to rush through a bill that will cost $4 trillion and bring more harm and damage to the problems they've already created. >> john: even democrats admitting voters sent a loud message this week on everything from spending to education to crime. despite the warnings, are left lawmakers are blaming everybody
but themselves. >> virginia was a huge bummer. honestly, if anything, i think the results show the limits of trying to run a fully 100% super moderated campaign that does not excite, speak to you, energize the progressive base. >> john: "bummer, but not our problem." >> sandra: then there is senator joe manchin. the squad banded in a bigot for criticizing the spending plan, and just yesterday he had to de. >> joe manchin, is it worth it? is the money with it? is the money that important, joe manchin? isn't more important than my life, joe manchin? is it more important than your kids' lives? can you lick me in my eyes as i talk to you cannot do only talk to millionaires? >> sandra: surrounded in a parking jar done at garage by climate protesters blocking the senator from trying to leave. they claimed he tried to run them over and took issue with
him driving a maserati. >> john: moments away, we begin a team coverage on capitol hill. first, aishah hasnie for the drama playing out in the house. aishah? >> good afternoon, john and sandra. house republicans right now are using a procedural tactic to try to delay things on the house floor, but they may not have to do this, because house democrats still don't have the votes to pass this massive "build back better" plan. they are still whipping democrats at this hour. speaker pelosi can really only afford to lose. she's huddling with a bunch of members in her office right now. house majority leader steny hoyer telling reporters a few hours ago, "we are still working on it." a couple frustrations here for democrats. first of all, they are breaking house rules by not getting lawmakers at least 72 hours to read the bill, which, by the
way, is more than 2,000 pages long. second of all, there's no congressional budget office score, or the cbo score. that's the true cost of the bill. leader hoyer says we will not be getting that today. listen to this. >> we have members who have very specific concerns that we are trying to address as we provide sort of the fine tuning to this legislation. i am confident that we'll get there. >> meanwhile, house minority leader kevin mccarthy poking a little fun at moderate josh gottheimer today of the problem solvers caucus who is still negotiating with pelosi. >> poor josh. that guy has been promised so much. [laughter] i mean, i feel sorry for the guy. and every time she pulls that football out from under him, "we are going to vote on it this week!" i don't know how many bottles of champagne we have sent him, but i feel bad for that poor guy. >> remember, guys, this is not
the final bill. it still faces the senate and tough critics like senator joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. we could see parts of this bill, like immigration and family leave, get cut during the senate part of the process. john, sandra? >> john: aishah hasnie for us on capitol hill. sandra? >> sandra: more now on the unknown cost of all this and the president's social spending plan. we might finally see the massive final price tag in time for -- wait for it -- thanksgiving. hillary vaughn has all of that for what are we hearing? >> sandra, that's right, it could take weeks for the cbo score to come out. that's part of the reason there are several democrats today in speaker pelosi's office begging her to bring this to a vote today. but there is over a handful of moderate democrats who say no cbo score is a no vote for men. but others think the analysts or experts, outside economists, and the joint committee taxation report that is out should be
enough on the table to get moderates to a "yes." >> i think where we are is we can't rush the congressional budget office. we've been rushed. but the point is i just feel comfortable that there are sufficient documentations, numerous document tatian. >> but some of the documentation out there says this package is far from paid for. the budget model says the real cost, if the social programs are made permanent, is over $4 trillion. house republicans say today that democrats cannot be in denial and turn a blind eye to the price tag that could potentially add trillions to the debt. >> with the wharton school is saying, that the president is nt telling the truth, that the bill does cost. it costs $4 trillion. there's a reason why they want to run the bill through without
having a congressional budget office tell you how much it costs. there are gimmicks behind this. >> speaker pelosi herself in the past has been pretty passionate about getting a cbo score, but not anymore. back in 2017 she tweeted that republicans should not vote without an updated cbo score on legislation she also criticized them for trying to "jam this bill through close without an updated cbo score of its impact. even if these social programs do expire as planned in the package after a few years, penn wharton says the math still does not add up. they found that his $300 billion short. that's why some moderate democrats are not easy for voting yes on a package that we still don't have the final price tag for because it could add to not only the debt but also inflation, both of which, sandra, as you know, is rapidly rising. sandra? >> sandra: hillary vaughn on capitol hill for us. it's going to be a busy day. thank you. john? >> john: "washington post" columnist, former washington
speechwriter, and a former fox news contributor. the democrats took it on the chin and a big way tuesday night. the response to that is all we have to do is get the tax the tax-and-spend reconciliation bill passed and all will be forgiven. >> more socialism, that's what voters want. a congressman virginia said it best. she said, "nobody elected biden to be fdr, they elected him to be normal and stop the chaos." there is no mandate. a 50/50 senate, razor-thin majority in the house, is not a mandate for socialism. but what are aoc and the progressive wing up to you? they know they don't have a mandate for socialism. they know that what they've been given is this brief window to enact as much of their radical agenda as possible, and what they saw on tuesday is that window is closing fast. they need to get as much fruit as they can, because they understand something, which is that government is a one-way ratchet. once you establish a new entitlement, it's never going to get taken away. look at obamacare. they lost control of the house because of obamacare in 2010,
lots of political careers ended, and here we are a decade later, republicans spent a decade trying to repeal it, they never did. they want to do that on multiple fronts before they lose power. and they are willing to lose power in order to do it. >> john: there was a skating take on all of this in an editorial income of all places, "the new york times." "significant parts of the electorate are feeling leery of a sharp leftward push in the party, including priorities like build back better, which have some discretionary provisions driving up the price tag. the concerns of more centrist americans about a rush to spend taxpayer money, a rush to grow the government, should not be dismissed." this is "the new york times" telling democrats to be careful where you tread, this could end badly for you. >> the difference between "the new york times" and the aoc wing of the party is "the new york times" wants to enact the election in 2022. aoc doesn't care about winning the election in '22. their approach is lennon
leninist.even if they lose in 2, republicans are never going to roll back what they accomplished. what they do is go through a cycle. to get power, the enact a new entitlement, they pushed us down the road to socialism, then they lose power temporarily, republicans can't repeal that, we'll cut some taxes and do some things they don't like which they can reverse quickly, then they come back into power and continue the march toward socialism. it's a one-way ratchet, they are willing to understand it, they are willing to lose power to get done what they want to do. >> john: the white house insists this will cost $1.75 trillion. janet yellen put out a statement yesterday saying it will reduce the deficit over ten years, but as aishah hasnie was pointing out, penn wharton had something different to say about it which was highlighted in "the wall street journal" editorial which said, "if all the provisions in the bill except green energy tax cuts are made permanent," which is the intention, "it will decrease while the tax revenue will stay at $1.55 trillion over ten years." that's a big hole in the budget.
"the wall street journal" says it's a $4 trillion trojan horse. >> it is, 100%. joe manchin is not going to vote for $4 trillion, he just isn't. what they don't seem to understand is, when joe manchin said he was comfortable with zero, he meant it. this whole idea that joe biden comes out and releases a framework for this bill, and they are voting on a bill that they have not cleared with joe manchin. joe manchin isn't just another stakeholder or another person in the negotiations, he has a veto over this. they passed $1.9 trillion already as social spending -- you know, pretending to be covid relief. they got another 1.92 trillion they could do with a bipartisan info structure bill. find out what joe manchin wants, past that, and declare victory. how hard is this? joe manchin is not going to help you pass a $4 trillion spending bill. >> john: apparently it's harder than it looks. >> apparently paid [laughs] >> john: have a great weekend. >> seem to you. >> john: we will see where
this goes but they want to get a vote on it. >> sandra: we await updates coming from the capitol. after briefly leaving the building, this is at 1:46 p.m. eastern time, while you're recovering the funeral of colin powell, represented jim clyburn said there will be forward movement while walking back into pelosi's office. when asked if there is a pathway for it. so we will continue to bring the updates from the 19 is to get them and see what happens next. >> john: chad pergram is washing it off for us as well as aishah hasnie. >> sandra: speaking about her problems, showing no signs of easing up. is the biden administration throwing up its hands? >> john: and the economy adding more jobs than expected last month. we will talk to "wall street journal" editorial page editor james freeman who says it is way too see and for any victory laps from the president. stay with us. ib♪ ♪ so they only pay for what they need. woooooooooooooo... we are not getting you a helicopter. only pay for what you need.
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alone. business has to step up and do their part and we are going to continue to ask them to lean in and help. we are making progress every day where there is no light switch. if they were, we would flick it. >> the secretary also says the democrat infrastructure bill, if and when it gets passed, it will help ease the backlog. republicans argue that it will in fact do the opposite. listen here. >> they really should be working on fixing our supply chain crisis, but the democratic qualities create even more disruptions by shipping our businesses overseas. >> there are of course many moving parts in the supply chain. americans are shopping and vast numbers, asian countries are making goods in record numbers, but they sell when they get here. water shortage is part of that. in particular, a lack of truck drivers. the commerce secretary also says the administration is working very hard to get new driver's
license in time for the holiday rush. john, it is worth noting that the average time it takes to train and qualify for a commercial driver's license is seven weeks. seven weeks from today is christmas eve. the pressure is on to get santos some help. john? >> john: and the weather there is right about on par with the possibilities of fixing the supply chain crisis. it gloomy. it jonathan, thank you so much. sandra? >> we still have to tackle a cost american families are facing. with this recovery is faster, stronger, fairer, and wider than anyone could have protected. >> sandra: that was president biden talking about the economy, boasting about it, in fact, after job numbers did fall last month. economists say some of that is driven by weak labor force presentation. americans are sitting it out. let's bring in james freeman from "the wall street journal" editorial page. great to see you.
what struck me is the president's first words there in that sound bite. talking about tackling the costs that american families are dealing with. one of those is the high price of fuel. if they're not playing for that fuel in their car, they're paying for the goods they are buying on the shelf because it is costing more for companies to transport those goods. the energy secretary under the biden administration was just asked on another tv channel about what the plan is to bring those oil and gas prices down and increase oil production, and this was her response. listen. >> in sturgis michigan it is $2.89 a gallon. i guess that's better than in california. what is the plan to increase oil production in america? >> [laughs] that is hilarious. would that i had the magic wand on this. as you know, of course, oil is a
global market, it is controlled by a cartel. that cartel is called opec, and they made the decision yesterday that they were not going to increase beyond what they were already planning. >> sandra: or that magic wand could be called domestic oil production. we've got a lot of it, james. i will first get your reaction to that. >> what a concept, right? the idea that maybe we wouldn't allow opec to dominate the oil market worldwide. maybe we would allow -- oh, i don't know, u.s. producers to have the freedom to play a bigger role in this market. it really isn't magic, it is basically allowing people to have permits to drill, to build refineries, to build pipelines, and create the incentives for people who want to produce oil and energy in the united states, not thinking they're going to be regulated out of existence. >> sandra: there are some
areas in the country like california that are paying upwards of $7 for a gallon of gasoline. lance gooden, a congressman texas come up out a tweet to what we all saw. they blamed high gas prices on the opec "cartel." the u.s. has a 200 year supply of oil. that being said, this is just one piece of the supply chain crisis that we are currently dealing with. as you look big picture here, are you seeing any plans to fix the problem? we still have a labor participation problem in this country. >> this problem has a number of parts. i recommend my colleague's piece the journal today in the concerns in california that make it difficult to operate trucks.
we have an ongoing worker shortage. we get some good news today, over 500,000 jobs created, but we still don't have a lot of people coming back into the labor force. about 4 million fewer jobs than we had pre-covid. certainly biden increases earlier in the year in benefits, it gives them an incentive to stay home. those have rolled off. so it is encouraging to see this job creation, but when the president says this is faster than anyone could have predicted, it's actually slower than we are hoping and expecting when he was inaugurated. so the policy will get out of the way and that markets run. >> sandra: that's an interesting way to put it. some of these problems can fix themselves if some of the regulation and restrictions just out of the way, to point.
thank you for reacting to that. >> john: i sighed in the commercial break. they were testing. it's all moved to sturgis. gases under $2 a gallon. >> sandra: when you look at this inflation crisis, the viewers of hearing it at home. it is real, the pain you are feeling at the sticker shock you are seeing. you go to buy or rent a car right now, the car rental prices, look at that, 43%. >> john: that's because there are no cars. >> sandra: everybody talks about what they are seeing at costco, prices going up, and every day items. eggs and milk. and to go to the grocery stores costing more. >> john: i wonder if they want to do anything about gas prices. the higher the price goes, the more pressure there is to adopt
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better-than-expected job numbers today, because he is saying things that don't sound like they were together. on the one hand he is saying the recovery is so far since he's been president, stronger and wider and fairer than anybody anticipated. in the same breath he is saying that if the economy is going to continue they can't just do things the way they've been doing. you need these two spending bills, the hard infrastructure and the human infrastructure. he told us earlier today at an event celebrating those job numbers that he would answer some questions at some point today. another big issue over the last couple days, those reports from "the wall street journal" and "new york times" about a possible $450,000 payment,
illegal immigrants separated from family members during the last administration. the president initially dismissed those reports as garbage and he said it's not going to happen. the deputy press secretary came out yesterday to say it is going to happen, that it would save taxpayer dollars, just not at the 450,000 die level. it's going to be settled, lawsuits filed by those illegal immigrants. there is congressional action to stop and block payments like that. we hope to get an update soon. >> sandra: live in the briefing room, thank you. >> john: federal agents arresting danchenko, partially funded by the dnc and the clinton campaign.
they say this is more proof that john durham is aiming for a big fish. former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, and he contrary andy mccarthy joins us now. do you think durham has his site set on the clinton campaign? where do you think this is heading? >> i think people may ultimately be disappointed. i do think that the clinton campaign is what durham is focused on in the sense that i think the last two indictments that have come out, the national conclusion that flows from them is that his theory is that the clinton campaign is the source of the trump russia collusion narrative. that they fabricated it, that they used their agents, their law firm, the intelligence agency they were using, dps fusion. this guy christopher steele, who danchenko was working with, they used him to both put together
the information and peddle it to the fbi in the media, which enabled them to frame trump as putin's puppet and even to suggest he was under the investigation, that the fbi was taking it seriously, and that was their campaign theme. the problem is, from a prosecutor standpoint, that's not necessarily a crime. where i think we are headed is a big narrative and we may see an narrative report like the mueller report. we may see more charges but i don't think it'll be an overarching criminal conspiracy case. >> john: what we have seen so far is lying to the fbi, and not much more than that, whether or not there's any criminality involved in doing what they did. but is there any doubt in your mind that this was, at the very least, a political dirty trick? >> i don't think there's any question about it. it's probably a unique criminal
trick or political trick in american history, because what they did here was they used the fact that they had access, not only to friendly media, but they had an entree into the government. the thing that comes out of the durham report that is most disturbing is, for example, the fbi didn't interview danchenko until february of 2017. they were in the fisa court in october 2016 bringing to the judges what was supposed to be a verified application, which means they are supposed to corroborate the information before they go to court. they didn't do it until much later. i think they are pushing on an open door when it came to the agents investigating them. >> john: you mentioned a second ago the idea of a willing media. news organizations now based on this indictment of igo or danchenko are rethinking the original coverage. this in washington post article
today. this casts new uncertainty on the pass reporting of the dossier by news organizations including "the washington post." were these media organizations just said a pack of lies and are only too happy to print them? >> you don't say, huh? john, i think the really disturbing thing that comes out of this is, when you read the steele dossier, the allegations are outlandish on their face. anyone whether it was government or not seriously looking at this, if you had talked to danchenko for 10 minutes or talk to the clinton person, charles dolan, that was working with danchenko, if you talked to him for 10 minutes, you would have seen that this is all unmitigated nonsense and it should never have gotten to where it got, and yet they used
it to go into court and basically they, for two years, the country was led to believe the president might be a clandestine agent of the kremlin. >> john: should this erase any lingering doubts that the russia investigation was perpetrated on fraud? >> i don't think so, no. this was a political narratives by a very influential political campaign, the clintons are a political powerhouse, the head entree to the media and to the government that gave it legs. when you look hard at it, there's nothing there. >> john: how many millions of dollars to be spent investigating? andy mccarthy, always great to see you. have a great weekend. sandra connects the eight brand-new details after the break on a deadly shoot-out near a tourist hot spot. ♪ ♪
>> john: two people are dead after shoot-out between rival drug gang members near cancun mexico. a group of gunmen stormed a beach not far from where some american tourists were on vacation. more from miami, not all is well on the mayan riviera. >> not recently, that is for sure. american and european tourists, men and women from around the world all flocked to mexico's yucatan peninsula.
for the sun, the sun, and the idyllic beaches. but a drug gang turf war is never part of the plan. the latest drug gang shooting happened in the cancun area at the all-inclusive luxury hyatt resort, not far from the airport. tourists relaxing on the beach and at the hotel pool, suddenly had to rush inside for safety as the gunfire erupted. men and women still in their bathing suits credit down that crowded into the hotel lobby or barricaded themselves in their hotel rooms. mexican police say it was a planned attack by one drug gang against another, brazenly arriving by boat on the beach, opening fire, and killing two people, presumably in the rival gang. one tourist was also injured after being hit with one of the rifles. you can definitely see the worry and concern on their faces scare for their lives. police say about 15 assailants armed with long guns stormed the
beach, commando style, shot and killed the rival and another that was hiding. for an hour it was vacation chaos. >> we are all safe at this time. i just ask that, please -- [inaudible] >> and other drugs shooting south of the in tuolumne killed bystanders from california. local prosecutors say the recent uptick in crime is due to primarily drug sales to foreigners and local mexicans. john? >> john: phil, thank you. sandra? state of california mother went missing after the football game person. on the story live from lot dominic washington for us. what do we know? >> it's been a little more than two weeks, and investigators aren't any closer to understanding what exactly happened to the 39-year-old mother. the biggest question is how her
dog somehow appeared on the 28th floor of the high-rise in downtown l.a. but no trace. she was last seen at her 10-year-old son's football game on october 17th. when she failed to pick up her son from school, she was then reported missing. her ex-husband managed to track her to that high-rise because the animal was micro chipped but police have now managed to obtain security cameras footage, belongings were found in her car still missing. her ex-husband told nancy grace he has no idea where she could be. >> her phone was on, but the location services on her phone, the laptop commander watch, are all shut off. >> and where they shut off? >> we don't know. that's another one of those mysteries. we don't know. if the police do you know, they haven't shared that with me. >> he also points out he was
contacted by the securities and exchange commission a day after they were reported missing. it was in regard to her boss, jason sugarman. in 2019 the sec charged sugarman and his business partner with securities fraud. we should mention this is just one of the estimated 600,000 people who go missing every year. the department of justice reports that, while some i found fairly quickly, tens of thousands of those incidents become cold cases of many families seeking answers and closure across the country. sandra? >> sandra: wow. jeff paul, thanks. john? >> john: sandra, a year after those defund the police protest to portland, that city is thinking about major changes to its police budget. definitely not in the way activists had hoped. christina coleman live in los angeles with more on all of this. do tell, christina. >> john, during cause to defund the police, city leaders cut more than $25 million from the portland police budget. $11 million of that was
attributed to pandemic-related issues, but since august of last year, more than 200 officers have left the portland police department, many citing low morale and burnout. keep in mind they were ongoing and sometimes violent protests for more than 100 consecutive days in portland last year. and now the city is dealing with an all-time high in deadly violence. so far this year portland has had a record number of 72 homicides, topping its previous record of 66 homicides back in 1987. >> many portlanders no longer feel safe in their city. business owners have closed up shop for fear of doing business in high risk areas. commuters fear for their safety, whether taking public transit were going by foot. parents are scared to let their children play outside. >> and just last month, police say around 100 anarchists vandalized businesses and
government buildings in downtown portland, causing at least $500,000 in damage. portland police say they didn't stop the rioters because of legislation passed by oregon lawmakers this year which limits the tools they can use to intervene in these instances. the mayor announced he would like the city to hire 200 more police officers in the next three years to deal with this rise in crime, and at this point public safety concerns are resonating with voters all over the country, as many now reject various defund the police efforts. in seattle, the progressive mayoral candidate who voted last year to slash the city budget in half lost by 30 points on tuesday and in minneapolis voters rejected the proposal to replace the entire police department with a new department of public safety. john? >> john: an old saying about sowing and reaping comes to mind. let's continue our will and trip around the country, back to sandra. >> democrats scrabbling to pass
social spending plan without knowing the true cost of the massive bill. congressional correspondent chad pergram has the very latest on that. hi, chad. >> good afternoon, sandra. while congressional black caucus chair just left the office a bit ago, the house will vote on the infrastructure bill today and then take a procedural vote but not a final vote on the social spending bill. leadership has not signed off on this. one source said "this is what joyce beatty thinks we should do." democratic leaders are scrambling to line up the votes to pass the bill but moderate democrats are holding out. they want time and a final cost from the congressional budget office. democrats tout what is in the bill. >> i think we know this bill includes things like universal pre-k for people. we know it'll lower prescription drugs, the cost of insulin, we know a lot of things. i think we feel confident enough
to move forward. >> the house of representatives has established a record today for the longest roll call vote in history. it's been going nearly seven hours. this vote is a protest by republicans to adjourn, and even if the house approves a bill, the senate will make changes. back to you. >> sandra: chad pergram live on capitol hill. we'll keep watching it. thank you. john? >> john: coming up next, the star quarterback under vaccine for his vaccine status. abby hornacek here to explain. ♪ ♪ newday is holding the line with their two and a quarter refi. that's 2.25%, with an apr of 2.48. this is their lowest rate in history. the newday two and a quarter refi can cut thousands of dollars off your mortgage payments. there's no money out of pocket and no up front costs. lock in your rate.
♪ ♪ >> marco fete drama dominated the nfl this week karen rogers reportedly furious that his vace status leaked. out for sunday's big game against the chiefs, behind a check is here on that. >> this is a little bit complex. it all started when aaron rodgers tested positive for covid-19 a few days ago. there are other vaccinated
players in the nfl who have tested positive for covid-19, but the reason this is getting so much attention is because everybody, i shouldn't say everyone come a lot of people thought that erin rob aaron rodgers was vaccinated. he said, i am immunized. so people automatically assumed that he was inoculated with one of the approved vaccines. turned out he had received a homeopathic treatment that raise the antibody levels in his body. so he is saying look, i said i was immunized. if you look at the fine print, they do define immunization and vaccination slightly differently. why does this matter? he has been operating under the protocols of a vaccinated player. so now there's an investigation into the violations he might have had while also acting like this when he should have been following the unvaccinated player protocols. he's gone to press conferences without a mask and he can face
fines, the packers conveys fines. it's a whole big mess. >> now we just got word that aaron rodgers gave a pretty good interview a few moments ago. >> i believe in bodily autonomy and the ability to make choices for your body, not to have to acquiesce to some woke culture or crazed group of individuals who say you have to do something. health is not a one-size-fits-all for everybody. >> the camera was so high. [laughter] >> some powerful words. i imagine that is going to receive a lot of reaction. >> absolutely. i think a whole conversation here is look, we've been talking about vaccine mandates with fire to varmints, police departments, and now with the nfl pit is not necessarily a mandate, they just have to follow different protocols. and i think in that interview he was actually asked, why were you violating the protocols.
for example, the mask in these crowded areas but he said it's not backed by science. i think the reason that people are having a little bit of an issue is that he was not following the protocols. >> we will see what the league decides to do about all of it. it's happening and real time. to have you here, abby. we will see you with this weekend, thanks abby. >> always lovely to see abby. santa is going to be here before you know it, so before we go today, fox news is coming out with a new book from rachel and john duffy. it is called "all-american christmas." you can preorder it now at fox news books.com or wherever books or sold. you've got a chapter in it, sandra. i've got a chapter in it where we both reminisce about christmas traditions and some of our most significant christmases. >> i love it, and i love the
pictures of all of our colleagues. what i love most of all, and those family pictures like mine shared here, it is just so lovely. and it is so fun to do this. john, i love that picture of you taking your kids to the white house. i write about, amid all the chaos, and remember to be grateful for the quiet moments at christmas. >> good to be with you, sandra. >> you too, john. "the story" with martha starts now. ♪ ♪ >> martha: thank you very much john and santa. good afternoon, i martha maccallum. here's the story on this friday afternoon. bran new developments into very big stories we are watching this hour. after a very long wait, the durum investigation is moving quite quickly. it appears to be working its way closer to the top of the clinton campaign. we will show you what we are learning in the story this afternoon. new developments. but first, watching the action on the house floor as democrats try to get a w