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eric: it's down to the wire in the closely watched governor's race in virginia. there are only two days to going until an election that experts say could provide clues about the all important midterm elections. polls show that former governor terry mcauliffe, he's struggling against republican glenn youngkin in a state that president biden won handily last year. is this a test of president biden's administration? hello, welcome to "fox news live." i'm eric shawn. hi, arthel. arthel: hi, eric. hello, everyone, i'm arthel neville. a fox news poll now showing the gop's glenn youngkin with an 8
point lead, quite a change from earlier this month when democrat terry mcauliffe was ahead. education remains one of the biggest factors in why the race has swung so much in recent years. eric: we have live fox news coverage. rich edson is in virginia. let's go to alexandria huff, covering the youngkin campaign in abing ton. >> reporter: you can't get more southwest in the state than this. it really doesn't get more republican than where we are now, that's okay, because youngkin is not here today to change any minds. the goal this late in the campaign is to really ensure that et voters who are likely to vote for him do and to show he's willing to put in the miles. of course, as we mentioned, the latest fox news poll of likely virginia voters show youngkin having an 8% lead over his democratic opponent. as he's been telling crowds, polls alone don't win elections.
it comes down to matt had. an expected -- math. an expected or better than expected turnout could help him in places where he's vulnerable. he says he's confident his base will cast their ballots along with independents. >> talking aboutish smews thatt are most important to inns. this is why we're seeing double digit leads with independents. education matters to parents. >> reporter: several supporters told fox news this morning that they really just aren't used to candidates coming out to this section of the commonwealth at all. so this goes a long way for them. youngkin started the day at 8:00 a.m. with a breakfast with veterans and is attending a worship service behind me right now. eric: we're going to have a lot more on youngkin's push. jon hilsenrath will join us on this race coming up. eric: .arthel: we're going to switch
to the mcauliffe campaign. top leaders say a loss for mcauliffe would mean a dooms day scenario with political analysts saying this race could have major implications for next year's midterm. rich edson, what's going on. >> reporter: this is the richdale suburbs. stanburger won this district by a narrow margin in 2020, also back in 2018, so it's an evenly divided area west of richmond. mcauliffe is coming to the richmond suburbs, he's going to go to northern virginia later today. then he will you hit the southeastern corner of the state tomorrow. he's going to the democratic areas, trying to turn out the vote. a new washington post poll has the race essentially tied with education now sharing the list
of top voter concerns with the economy. post poll says in accepted case voters favored mcauliffe by 33 points, now glenn youngkin leads that by 9. that subject dominated mcauliffe's conversation this morning on meet the press. >> he says he wants to day one all masks come off and no teachers get vaccinated. that's life threatening. we have 1,142 children who have been in the hospital in virginia, two 11-year-olds died the other day from covid. he doesn't have an education plan. >> reporter: mcauliffe has been campaigning with national democrats this week, house majority whip jim clyburn, senator tim cane, vice president kamala harris and president biden. the democratic governor's association sent out a last minute fund raising e-mail recently that was picked up by some news outlets, warning of disaster if mcauliffe loses this race. now, democrats and republicans typically send out these types of fund raising e-mails.
they usually warn of calamity. in this case, the attorney is similar to what you're hearing from the -- the tone is similar to what you're hearing from the democrats who are campaigning for mcauliffe, warning of dire consequences if they lose the race. arthel: we are watching it closely. rich edson, thank you. eric: across the river in capitol hill on washington, democrats there working through the weekend on changes to president biden's build back better social spending bill. and the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill. they're aiming to try to vote on both measures this coming tuesday and finally hand their president a big win on his domestic agenda while progressive seem to stand of fast on trying to get what they want. kevin cork has the latest on this measure. >> reporter: the devil is in the details. which is to say we don't yet know what adjustments democrats might make to boost efforts to lift the president's legislative
priorities but we expect there to be more horse trading between now and tuesday, perhaps some add-ons to the big bill like more immigration reform, tax hikes, perhaps on billionaires, further expansion of medicare, longer paid leave and more green energy provisions. we got a chance too to hear what chris kuhns had to say about it. he says there are dozens of proposals that folks are going to make a last ditch effort to add to it. yeah, we expect that. however, thanks to a fractioned democratic caucus led by progressives, speaker man a than could be pushed further left than maybe she would like to be. and that could endanger, eric, what makes it out of the house. which is to say, might it survive the senate? maybe not. that's assuming that it makes it out of the house. they've been going back and forth with progressives. one thing is certain, many in her own party want to get that ball moving and i mean right now.
>> i think when the american people see the results of what we are trying to do and understand that for the first time really in the modern history of this country, we are attempting to tackle the real crises facing working families, the massive income and wealth inequality that we have. i think the american people will be very pleased and understand that government is starting to work for them. >> reporter: sort of what you expect to see from senator sanders. he is no doubt a true believer. precarious margins for errors, it's likely much of what progressives are hoping for ends up on the cutting room floor. senator rick scott says, quote, i am not going to bankrupt this country. that's been the perspective we've been hearing from republicans. we don't know if they'll having to face or something to try shoot down on tuesday but we'll find out together, eric. eric: big day on tuesday. we've got the elections and the
vote on the bill. arthel: right now we bring in congressman henry cuellar, democrat from texas, he sits on the house appropriations committee. congressman, thank you for joining us. i want to -- bear with me here. i want to begin with items i want to share with the audience, some of the items in the $1.75 trillion build back better framework. so here we go. we've got expanded child tax credit for one year, universal pre-k, expansion of the aca premium credit, medicare expansion for hearing services, tax services for solar energy and electric vehicles, clean energy investment. so congressman cuellar, tell us why these items benefit the whole country, even american hads who are not direct ben gnash arealies. >> -- beneficiaries. >> i look at the provisions of
day-care and pre-k as a way to get americans back to work. if you have a mother or dad that can't get back to work, these provisions will get them back to work. when you talk about some of the things that are there for healthcare, healthcare is something that's so important to all of us because if we have a healthy community, a healthy individual that's good for all of of us. so i look at this build back better as a jobs program to get people back to work. and also, i like to point out that there was some things that were there that are not there, should i say, when they were targeting certain industries with punitive taxes. i had a problem with that because we are supposed to have a tax code that actually helps build our economy and get businesses and get individuals working again. arthel: so in the end as you're pointing of out there was compromise but getting there exposed party dissension that was on public display, complete with less than the full throated
support of president biden's agenda. so how do the democrats plan to hold onto their slim majority in congress? >> you know, i tell some of my progressive friends that when they talk about getting things done and they think it's that easy, it's not. you do have to compromise. i mean, look at what president roosevelt had or president lb johnson, lbj, had, they had large democratic majoritys in the house, 285, 318 democrats, very, very different times. here we only have three votes margin in the house. arthel: how could do you plan to hold onto it. >> people need to realize we're in the legislative ayou rena and the legislative arena you've got to give and you've got to take and that's what it is. some folks have not been in city council, have not been state legislators so they come in with a different perspective. they need to understand that in congress, we have to work things
out for the betterment. don't let the perfection get in the way and that's what we're going to do we are going to get it done this week. we need the infrastructure bill. we need the build back better. because again, all of us are going to create jobs. arthel: so you're saying, congressman kaye yarr, that -- cuellar, there will be a t vote on the build back better framework and infrastructure bill on tuesday. >> i'm not saying it will be on tuesday but we certainly hope it will be done this week. i know things have been put together. just before i got on this i was talking to somebody about provisions that i want to make sure that we see, the hyde amendment. it's important for me. arthel: expound on what that is. >> you cannot use federal funds for abortion. this has been part of the ayou -- appropriations bill. some people want to see the hyde
amendment in this bill. my personal a perspective is that the hyde amendment, the appropriation covers all federal funding but we're going to try to add the hyde amendment on this. so we're still working it. we're still working it. arthel: where does the tuesday deadline come from? this is was we're talking about. it seems like you kind of can't get it together. this deadline, then you move the goal post. seems like you can't come together as a party and make up your mind on what you want. arthel: well, ask speaker paul ryan, ask speaker boehner where they couldn't get their work done because of the tea party folks. it's part of the process, doesn't matter if it's a democratic speaker or republican speaker. we've seen this before. ask paul ryan, ask john boehner. i would tell you, that with speaker pelosi, we are going to get it done. i don't know if it will be on tuesday but we will get it done this week. arthel: quickly, what's the success rate past this week? next stop is the senate.
>> well, one of the things that the group of nine and this is one of the ideas that i pushed very hard that before we vote on something on the house side it's got have the approval of all 50 democrats including my friends, senator joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. i want to make sure that all 50 senators are on board before we move something forward in the house. i don't want to see a ping pong on this. we've got to get the democrats in the senate over so it's as you can understand, to get that on both sides instead of having a paint bomb, have you to thread that needle very carefully and i think we'll be able to do this a very surgical way. arthel: okay. well, we will have you back on to -- after the results are in, techs as congressman henry cuellar, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you so much. arthel: as the heated governor's race in virginia hits the home stretch, will a youngkin win send a big defeat for president biden and the democrats or will a youngkin
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governor's mansion. analysts say the race may well set the tone for next year's midterms. so will a youngkin win boost republican prospects or if terry mcauliffe wins back the state house will the democrats be sitting pretty. jon hilsenrath, fox news contributor joins us now. the pundits and the brainiacs are sitting there, predicting this is going to predict the mid terms. is that a fair assessment? or does this just show the mood of the electorate in one state, in virginia? >> yeah, i mean, i think its you shows the mood of the electorate today and a lot can change over the next 12 months. so, you know, i wouldn't get too carried away in predicting forward what's going to happen a year from now from today's election. by the way, eric, i caught your carnac reference, as to johnny
carson. i don't know if all the viewers did. eric: he had the envelope, i know. this is what analysts do, they put the pressure on this race, to say youngkin wins, the republicans get the white house back, big defeat for biden. mcauliffe wins, nah, is had that fair? >> well, it's not just the analysts. it's the politicians too. i mean, i think they want to create a sense of importance and, frankly, the media wants to do this around these elections because the politicians want to get voters out for the media, it drives ratings. so it's kind of like game day, every sunday in the nfl, it's game day, people want to focus on the game. for politicians, it's the first tuesday in november. the way i describe this election coming up in virginia is i think it's about the three cs.
covid, culture, and calamity. and this is what i mean by that. there's a big debate still in this country about which party is doing a better job or has better ideas about how to manage covid and the resurgence of covid and the early stages of covid, should we be wearing masks, should we be having vaccine mandates, et cetera, et cetera. culture, we've seen, for instance, on education, that's a major issue in this election in virginia. that's a lot about culture, about cancel culture and what we're teaching our kids. and then calamity, both parties want to convince voters that it's going to be a calamity if the other guy wins. and i think that's, again, about this heightened attention that gets around politics first tuesday of every november. eric: you talk about the education and that issue and the culture issue, that is the number one issue you in the fox news poll, education and (call
control and) call -- parental control and parental influence. will that carry over into the midterms. republicans have a live wire issue on that. >> i think it will. i think that the issues that divide america right now are very much about issues related to culture and a lot of those culture issues get into the classroom. what are we teaching our kids? what belongs in the classroom on any number of issues, about climate change or race or gender. and those are big debates going on around that and i think it does carry into next november and we'll see in these elections how that plays of out. it will be interesting to see in the exit polls what people think. it looks like republicans are winning some ground on that issue and then the other thing with this virginia election, which is the two people who aren't on the ballot, and that's donald trump and joe biden.
i think, again, both parties are running against the other guy, the republicans are running against biden and democrats are running against trump. so that's also another part of this which also carries forward to elections in the midterms. eric: that really is the looming sha he dough over this, -- shadow over this, mcauliffe said even though president biden won the state by 10 points and president trump lost twice in the state, mcauliffe says president biden is unpopular. here's what mcauliffe says about youngkin. he says, quote, youngkin's entire campaign has been a full embrace of donald trump's dangerous extremism, divisive cultural wars, racist dog why ss and -- dog whistles and bigotry. >> this sums up so much of what we've been talking about in terms of, again, culture wars
and about tying the issues to the people who aren't on the ballot. i do think that it's interesting, as it relates to donald trump, he hasn't been to campaign for youngkin but i think no matter what happens in this election, there's going to be a lot of analysis around, well, how did the former president president affect the outcome of this. i think that if youngkin wins, then president trump and his supporters are going to say, look, trump is still viable. i think if youngkin lose president trump is going to say it was his fault for not putting me on the ballot with him, i could have helped him. so biden and trump are very much going to be a part of the analysis that we're all talking about on wednesday after hopefully we'll know the outcome of the election on wednesday. eric: mr. youngkin says he's honored to have former president's support and the former presidents has not set foot in virginia, does have a
telerally, a virtual rally for youngkin coming up. always good so to see you. we'll be talking about this on wednesday. arthel: the fda approved the pfizer vaccine for children ages 5-11. some parents sound hesitant about having their kids get it. dr. frida fisher joins us with her analysis coming up. plus, president biden speaks today after wrapping the g- 20 summit in rome, what to expect from the president in a live report from rome, that's coming up next. the et health today will dictate the health, happiness and economic prosperity of generationses to come, plus our overwhelming responsibility to generations yet unborn. ♪ well the sun is shining and the grass is green ♪
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arthel: right now we want to take you live to rome where president biden is hosting an event where he's addressing the challenges of the global supply chain. let's take a listen. >> by the private sector, but government can play a key role identifying supply chain risks and bringing the different pieces and actors together to address these vulnerabilities. in the united states, my administration is focused on this from our earliest days of the administration, which is not that long ago, just january 20th of this year. in february, we began directing new investments of to strengthen supply chains at home and to work with partners to bolster supply chains around the world. last month we launched an early warning system to help get ahead of the global supply chain disruptions for computer chips.
which impacts so many industries in my country and all of yours. just a few weeks ago, we were able to facilitate an agreement with key unions, retailers and freight movers, to begin operating two of the largest ports in the united states that account for 40% of the imports on the west coast, the port of los angeles and the port of long beach, california. so we got them to move from five days a week, eight hours a day, to 24 hours a day, and seven days a week. i'm going to help get -- it's going to help get goods on the shelves faster and our build back better framework provides for the first time funding dedicated to monitoring and strengthening supply chains. today, i'm announcing two
further steps. first, i'm allocating additional funding to help american partners as well as the united states cut port congestion by slashing red tape. and reducing processing times so that ships can get in and out of our ports faster. and second, i'm signing an executive order that will strengthen our management of the united states' defense stockpiles for minerals and materials and allow us to react and respond more quickly to shortfalls in the industrial base. i urge all of you, all of you to consider bolstering your stockpiles, critical to national security in your countries. but like so many challenges today, it isn't a problem any one of our nations can solve
through unilateral actions. coordination is the key, the reason for meeting many the best way to reduce current delays and building greater resilience for the future is to work together, across the entire supply chain, from raw materials to warehousing and distribution. our supply chains should be, one, diversified, so we're not dependent on any single one source that might cause a failure, secure, secure against natural and a man made threats including cyber criminal atax like ransomware and transparent, so that both government and the private sector can better anticipate and respond to shortages that may be coming down the pike and sustainable, to ensure our supply chains are free from forced and child labor, supporting the dignity and the voice of workers and are
in line with our climate goals because at the end of the day, supply chain resilience is really about all of our people. workers around the world will make the flow of goods possible. factory workers, dock workers, welders, shipping crews, truckers, child care proked vieders -- providers, locomotives, so many other pieces. solving this is going to take all of us. government and private industry, labor unions and research institutions. so i'm directing my secretary of state, secretaries of state and commerce, to chair a multistate forum to bring all these key parties together with relevant officials from all of our governments to chart a path forward. i look forward to hearing from each of you and finding ways we can work together to increase
our resilience and enhance our shared prosperity. i'm going to turn it over to secretary blinken to actually make sure the trains run on time here. >> arthel: well, there is president biden, he's there live in rome at 5:35 p.m. local time there, making news, saying he's signing an executive order that will strengthen management of u.s. defense stockpiles for minerals and materials, he's going to allocate additional funds to america and american partners to help cut port congestion while he touted the extended operations of the port of la and port of long beach, moving up to operations of 24/7 and also one other note that the president made that he is saying that government can assist private industries to identify
supply chain risks and to help coordinate glow -- global supply chain orders and operations. eric, there is the president in rome making some news. eric: did you see those -- cutting blinken off like that. did you hear about the reported plan the biden administration has, considering they say to settle lawsuits by paying, get this, $450,000, $450,000 a person to families separated at the border because of what the trump administration did to separate those families. this reported plan comes as the massive migrant caravan continues to slowly make its way you to our southern border many dan springer is on the southern border with the latest on both of he's these developments. hi, dan. >> reporter: hi, eric. the curious thing from a political standpoint is the
biden administration is saying nothing, letting this thing sit for days, this report about the big payment. meanwhile, republicans are universally hammering them for it, even republicanses frankly who were critical of the trump administration, for zero tolerance policy that led to 5500 migrant children separated from parents or guardians, most of them over two months. president biden called it a moral and national shame. 1,000 kids still not been reunited. the payout would settle the lawsuits but it's more money that what's given to gold star families. meanwhile, the surge of illegal immigration continues at the southern border as officials gear up for a caravan in southern mexico. they're on high alert at crossings like one in laredo, texas where 2 million cross each year. last week two trucks were
stopped carrying migrants from guatemala. .75 migrants were found shivering. border patrol agents delivered a baby girl after getting a 911 call from construction workers about a woman in distress. the mother and child were taken to a local hospital. they're doing fine. this is just another example, eric, of the misery, the extreme misery of so many along this southern border. eric. eric: it is a humanitarian crisis many dan, thank you so much. and when we come back, we will be talking about iran, what vice president pence had of to say, the message to the white house. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ peerless design, cutting-edge tech, and a world-class interior.
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the adult dosage. joining us now, dr. freda fisher, certified in peed pedia, nephrology and internal medicine. would you vaccinate your own child between the ages of 5 and 11 and under what circumstances would you not. >> i would and i will. i have two children who are between the ages of 5 and 11 and now that we have this authorization and i have reviewed the data and i know that the cdc and fda have rigorously scrutinized the day , i will absolutely as soon as the cdc approves getting my environment approved. all children between the ages of 5-11 were found to have great results. safety profiles were wonderful you, minimum side of effects, great efficacy. you want to consult with your pediatrician. this will helps us contain the pandemic. arthel: cdc director dr.
rochelle walensky she is going to make a decision this week. you mentioned reactions, side effects, how likely is a child to have a reaction to the vaccine? what are the potential reactions? given what scientists know at this point, possible reactions or long-term effects of covid in children. >> there's no comparison. there's no question. the benefit of children getting vaccinated far, far, far outweighs the risk of getting long covid or covid-19 disease. even though children do better than results, we have over 700 children that died, almost 6.2 million children have been infected by covid. they can get long covid symptoms. they're not completely immune. children tended to get headaches, arm pain, some got fever. with the lower dose, children were able to mount a robust
immune response while have few side effects. it looks great and effective for children age. >> arthel: -1 -- ages. >> arthel: -11. arthel: pfizer vaccine with moderna booster, and vice versa, is there any scientific proof of this? >> there is some scientific evidence. it's not new. we've been doing it for years. when you mix and match boosters, when you get another vaccine that's a little different than the initial one, science shows that will allow you to protect yourself if in different ways. with the message rna against the coronavirus proteins, if you get a vaccine that is different you may attack that protein in a different way which could give you amore robust response. with these mix and matches for the vaccines the nih did a study. they found if your first dose
was johnson & johnson for example, two months later if you got boosted with another johnson & johnson you had a four-fold increase in antibody response but if you got a booster with the pfizer, you had a 35-fold increase in your antibody response. and if you got a moderna as your second dose you had a 76-fold increase in your antibody response. what does that mean? that it is possible that -- arthel: before you continue, what i'm specifically asking if you get pfizer or moderna as your first shot or your first two shots, can you get -- and you get the other as your booster, are you more protected in had that scenario? >> it's possible that you're more protected. to be clear, if you get all pfizer, all moderna for all three, you have excellent protection. there is theory if you mix with pfizer and moderna may give you an edge. my colleagues have made the choice to do the mix and match for themselves, just so you know
what physicians themselves are doing. arthel: i have to leave it there. we have to cut it short. we will have you again. we love having you. thank you very much. >> thank you. arthel: a eric. eric: former vice president mike pence is slamming plans to revive the nuclear deal with iran. straight ahead, why he says president biden's strategy on this is so dangerous. i'll shoot you an estimate as soon as i get back to the office. hey, i can help you do that right now. high thryv! thryv? yep. i'm the all-in-one management software built for small business. high thryv! ow. get a free demo at thryv.com. what do we want for dinner? burger... ow. i want a sugar cookie... wait... i want a bucket of chicken... i want... ♪♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win.
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>> in no uncertain terms we told the united kingdom and germany and france and russia around china that the jcpoa was a dangerous mistake for america, for the world, and to the people of iran and we made it clear that under no circumstances would the united states ever allow iran to obtain a nuclear weapon. eric: that's former vice president mike pence, speaking out at the free iran success sut week and president biden and a europeanal lies say they're convinced the iran nuclear deal can be restored. pence appeared at the symposium, held by the national council of resistance of iran. they warn about what they say is iran's goal of building a bomb
and calling for the regime to be overthrown. >> it involved the iran people are ready for the regime overthrow more than any other time. it is time for the international community to side with the people of iran and their desire for change. eric: former new jersey senator robert toricelli joins us now. how do you greet the niece of the administration's potential move to try to get back into the nuclear deal? >> well, i thought that mike pence actually his remarks were -- set the stage for this debate pre the restoration of conversations with the iranian regime which basically was we need to see the regime for what it is, the reality of this. the biden administration may be
enthusiastic to renew conversationses and seek a restoration of the jcpoa but simultaneously the regime is doing missile attacks on american soldiers, continuing with terrorist activities and just selected as its leader a man who simultaneously in europe is being investigated for crimes against humanity. and the iranians themselves are saying they will not re-enter the pact on the terms upon which we left. so i understand the administration pursuing the objective but i think as mike pence said we need to have some sense of renewed reality about the regime in tehran. eric: do you think the state department and white house will get that renewed reality as you say? they're talking about potentially unfreezing $1 billion in iranian assets where the trump administration had the maximum pressure which seemed to bring the iranian economy to the brink. >> well, as of the months that
passed, iran has increased its purification and stockpiling of nuclear materials. it could be months or weeks away from a weapon of, if it chooses to go in that direction. reaching accommodation with them is so unlikely, you take them at their word, the question is what do we do next. my theory that is we're entering into a period of history here post afghanistan where in tehran vis-a-vis a nuclear weapon and china vis-a-vis taiwan there's going to be a sense that a door is open and maybe for a limited amount of time to seek their ambitions. i think we're headed for a perilous year ahead in foreign policy, starting with tehran and nuclear weapons. eric: how do you think we should respond? >> i don't say this with any delight. i say it with extraordinary regret, understanding the enormous consequences of it. first, we should return to the trump administration's maximum
economic pressure. the partisan politics aside, the fact is, the economic embargo on iran was probably the most effective in modern history. it was bringing the iranian regime to its knees, the iranian economy was in full retreat its currency has collapsed. they that is the one thing what that has worked. it should be tried next. if not, i think it needs be made painfully clear, regrettable as this may be, a military option is on the table. everything should be tried first. economic sanctions and the embracing of regime change. this is simply not a regime the world can do business with. it is not a he regime that makes it safe to be in the region or within range of their missiles. i think the biden administration when they realize the reapproachment is not going to work needs to put everything back on the table. eric: finally, 30 seconds left.
we've seen totalitarian regimes fall in the past, the soviet union, eastern europe, on and on. do you see the day when that could happen to this criminal regime? >> i do and i think there's a sense of inevitableity about it. i you know the cia talk about the opposition is small, all revolutionary groups are small. i know they think the regime will never fall. one consistency if in my years in american politics is the american government has been wrong about iran not some of the time, not most of the time, all the time. they didn't see the shah falling, they didn't see the hostage crisis, they didn't see the nuclear weapon problem, they didn't see the iran/iraq war. this he regime will fall. tighten the noose. keep the pressure on. it will fall. eric: senator saying the regime will fall. thank you.
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