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those things enthrall me. i'll watch anything about them. >> kayleigh: russ guttfeld did a piece about an art work. what's better. the invisible portrait or the hunter biden portrait? >> >> thank you, emily, fox news ark letter to kickoff "america reports." man whose accomplishments were consequential to american life he was awarded presidential medal of freedom twice. he has died at the age of 84. general colin powell's family announcing he died from complications due to covid-19. i'm sandra smith in new york, hi, john. >> john: sad day to start this week. colin powell was an american trailblazer, the first black national security advisor chairman of the joint chiefs of
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staffs and secretary of state. served 35 years in the u.s. army, two decorated tours in vietnam. credited with reforming the u.s. military following the cold war and being the architect of the first gulf war. >> sandra: fox team coverage begins now weighing in on the medical side of this story. >> john: first to national security correspondent jennifer griffin on powell's life and career, what a life and career it was. >> jennifer: it was. known for integrity, he will be remembered for the powell doctrine during desert storm in first gulf war as chairman of the joint chiefs at the pentagon, which stated only use force if it has clear and achievable object itch with public support, sufficient firepower and exit strategy to end the war. he told secretary of state regarding use of u.s. military
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u.s. troopss should not be used as toy soldiers. then there was his pottery barn rule. you break it, you own it, tough lesson the u.s. learned after invasion of afghanistan and iraq after 9/11 when the u.s. military ignored the powell doctrine and did not have an exit strategy. born in 1937, colin powell joined rotc at city college of new york, served two tours in vietnam, where his world view was shaped while training in georgia, he faced racism. he was injured in vietnam, forcing an early end to his tour. he was made national security advisor under ronald reagan after the iran contra-scandal, oversaw invasion of panama and removal of emmanual norie ga. under george wbush, despite skepticism about the iraq
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invasion, suggested saddam -- lloyd austin issued the following statement. >> the world lost one of the greatest leaders that we've ever witnessed and i lost a tremendous personal friend and mentor. he has been my mentor for a number of years. he always made time for me and i could always go to him with tough issues. he always had great council. i feel as if i have a hole in my heart just learning of this and will be quite frankly, it is not possible to replace colin powell. we will miss him. >> jennifer: colin powell passed a. john. >> john: jennifer griffin for us. sandra. >> sandra: professor of
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medicine, dr. mark segall joins us. we mourn the passing of colin powell. many people are wondering what were the complications, he was being treated for blood cancer, what were complications he suffered that led to his death? >> sandra, i don't have specific details right now except to say usual complications of covid-19 that lead to death are lung complications, pneumonia from covid, he had history of parkinson, that could make that more likely, the heart canning involved and the kidney, three main organs we are concerned about with covid. he is battling multiple myeloma, blad cancer. if he was in stages of treatment for that, it is difficult for the vaccine to work. that is one reason we started giving boosters. i do not know if he had a
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booster. he's 84, he had a history of prostate cancer, battling multiple myeloma. i don't know if he had enough immunity to fight this off. looks like he didn't. you're 11 times more likely to die of covid if you haven't been vaccinated. he is an outlier in the sense of risks because of the myeloma. he is not just a hero to our country in many ways issue but in fights against diseases he suffered, he has great courage. >> john: doctor, we are hearing more and more about breakthrough infection in recent weeks. is that just a factor of more people are vaccinated more than ever before or something to do with waning efficacy in the original doses of vaccine necessitating a booster? >> john, great question. i think it is both. more and more people being
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vaccinated. data out of israel shows the pfizer vaccine is waning in ability to fight off infection and severe infection and that is why we came up with the booster shot for those over 65. we don't know if the secretary of state had a booster. looks like the booster does help fight that waning immunity. i think the shots were given too close together and doses were lower, i think we're getting more long-term immunity from the moderna. pfizer works issue the booster is essential, especially in somebody with other health conditions. >> sandra: we remember him and his service. doctor, appreciate your time. we'll have general keith kellogg coming up, former president george w. bush and laura staying in a statement, he was such a favorite of presidents he earned presidential medal of freedom twice. he was highly respected at home and abroad and colin was a
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family man and a friend. you have heard that so much, john, after his passing, what a friend he was to so many that respected his service /* service to this country. >> john: we live not far from each other, i would run into him at the local subway. he was an extraordinary guy living a normal life. >> sandra: he is remembered today. white house press secretary jen psaki is expected to face tough questions on president biden's response and have white house response to his death. she is expected to address the ongoing supply chain crisis happening from coast to coast. have you seen the images over and over again, the liness of cargo ships waiting to enter major ports and get the goods across the country. transportation secretary pete buttigieg says the issue will note be resolved until next
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year. bring in a former speech writer for george w. bush and fox news contributor. great to see you. with the forecast it won't be resolved until next year according to transportation secretary, what does that mean for all of us in getting goods and services we all need? >> it is seldom i find myself agreeing with pete buttigieg, but i agree here. i think that the response from the administration is likely to make it worse, especially if they pass this reconciliation bill. the problem at the -- is not 24/7, the answer is not the president to say, we'll run this around the clock. that may be part of the answer, but the companies are nimble. one of the reasons the journal we've objected to the tariffs and so forth, they are very complicated things issue the supply chains. get the goods to the person selling them here.
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if you mess with them, you reek havoc and prices and reliability. this is far more, they are finally admitting, it is a matter of truckers and having enough storage to unload the ships and put them in a place. i would prefer to bet on the private sector. some big box places like walmart and home depot, they are chartering their own ships to bring stuff in different ways, different ports and so forth. that will be reflected in higher prices. >> sandra: great point. it is a case of just get out of the way f. they try to fix the problem, assuming it is the white house's problem to fix, perhaps that causes more disruption than fixes the problem. my question would be the fact that jen psaki, what we're about to hear from, she said over and over again the white house is not just responding to this crisis, she is making the case that president biden saw this coming and he's been working on this for months.
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she said since he took office, he has been preparing for this. why are we where we are today? i know the point is being made, it is not just a supply issue, it is demand issue. pete buttigieg is saying demand is out of control and that is difficult to keep up with. >> yeah, demand is up and so forth. i believe the private sector can handle that. look, what has president been doing last months demonizing american business saying they are not paying their fair share and implying they are living off the rest of us by exploiting us. now we need them on this. >> sandra: he is asking for their help, right? the irony of it. >> i don't think it is all the biden administration's fault, but when you claim this and do it and do it on top of the disaster at the border and with afghanistan and covid, real question in people's mind about
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competence. it may not be entirely fair, a lot of people will judge joe biden on this, unlike afghanistan and the border, the consequences of the supply chain are visible to anyone that goes to the gas pump, anyone that goes to the grocery store and seess the empty shelves. >> sandra: pete buttigieg says one way to fix this, pass the infrastructure bill. great, have it be stand alone bill. vote up or down and encourage congress to take a vote on the infrastructure bill, if that will solve this. that is not happening yet. that is not an immediate fix, either, infrastructure bill will take time. great to see you. thank you. >> john: good to have bill on. >> sandra: john, it will not be fixed overnight, it is a major problem, every time we ask for new photos of the ships off the coast and everybody talking about it, the number of containers on the ships continue
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to grow. they are trying to get those things off there. it is a process, you have to have trucks and drivers that can get goods where they need to go. we have a truck driver joining us next hour, we will talk about that. >> john: even just ports up to 24/7 operation as the president called for, we understand will take weeks, if not months, we have a backlog to get the backlog cleared. crazy. 16 american missionariess and canadian counterpart kidnapped near haiti capitol. the missionaries kidnapped in porta prince after heading home from building an ovfannage. 400 mioso is believed to be responsible for killings in haiti and kid nap priests and nuns and hold them for ransom. biden officials are aware and the fbi is involved in the effort to free the aide workers. haiti ascended into chaos,
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following the assassination of their president in july and a devastating earthquake in august that killed more than 2000 people. >> sandra: china flexing military muscle, beijing making stunning advance in race for space-based weapons, retired general keith kellogg will join us on that. >> john: today is the deadline for police officers in some cities to get the vaccine or be fired, that is income. >> we have to have mandatory vaccines, not taking the vaccine wasn't even a question. the process how they did it was ridiculous and making people do this or lose your job was ridiculous. i'd like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans because i know there's so many of you who have served our country honorably. whether it's 2 years, 4 years, or 32 years like myself. one of the benefits that we as a country give our veterans is eligibility for a va loan for up to 100% of your home's value. so if you need money for your family, call newday usa.
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houston outside a nightclub, killing one deputy and injured the other two. officer kareem atkins leaving behind a wife and two children, including a two-month-old baby. authorities describe the gunman as heavy set hispanic man in his early 20s, last seen wearing white t-shirt and blue jeans. sandra. >> sandra: jen psaki started taking questions at her daily briefing. >> bring the individuals home safely. the f.b.i. is part of coordinated u.s. effort. we will not go into too much detail, can confirm engagement. u.s. embassy in port au prince working to resolve the situation. can't get into the identities
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due to privacy. -- missile over the summer to the surprise of u.s. officials, are these accurate and do these raise concerns about -- capabilities? >> i know secretary austin was asked this question this morning and addressed it, but i'm not going to comment on the specific report. i can echo what he said, generally speaking, we've made clear are concerned about the military capabilities the prc continues to pursue and we have been consistent in our approach with china. we welcome stiff competition, but we do not want the competition to veer into conflict, that is what we convey privately, as well. >> biden administration has smaller percentage of nominees confirmed than recent predecessors, what do you make of this? who is to blame? the fault of the senate or because he has been focused on covid response and build back better agenda? is there a concern this will
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affect government at this point? >> we are concerned about obstruction of nominees and we have made progress over the course of the last several months, back to the transition of putting forward qualified nominees to serve in key and vital positions across government, there has been unprecedented delays, obstruction, holds on qualified individuals from republicans in the senate. what is also true, if you look historically and we can get numbers after the briefing to give this to you in more data specifics, is that many of our nominees, huge number nominees passed with overwhelming majority of democrats and republicans and can be voted through with unanimous consent. yet there has been time after time obstruction that prevented qualified nominees to be in vital positions, whether national security roles, defense
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department, the state department, where we've seen ambassadors held for weeks and months or our economic nominees, who are unquestionably qualified, but been unable to move forward and serve in these positions. i would say the blame is clear, it is frustrating. it is something that we wish would move forward more quickly and there is historical precedent moving forward through a faster process. go ahead. >> i want to -- elaborate on something you said, encouraged by the accelerated talk of infrastructure, what changed? is there something different now? >> the president is feeling urgency to move forward and get things done. i think you have seen that urgency echoed by members on the hill, who agree time is not unending and we're eager to move forward with unified path to deliver for the american people. >> does the sense of urgency have anything to do with the president's trip coming up in eight works days? does he feel the need to get
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this wrapped before he leaves? >> good news, there are phones and video conference capabilities overseas for every president, not here to set new deadlines or timelines. we have been at this for sometime. the president proposed the plans back in the spring. we have been, he has participated in dozens of calls and engagements to hear viewpoints, understand where they are coming from, to reach consensus and we're at a point we feel urgency to move things forward and the pickup of meetings is reflection of that. >> quickly on i want your reaction to the president of the naacp on record saying administration lack of urgency on the issue is appalling, lack of priority will be undoing legacy for this president. >> well, i would say lack of urgency in congress, in the senate, among republicans and protecting people's right to vote is also frustrating to the
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president and to this administration. the united states senate needs to act to protect the sacred right to vote. no question, we agree with leaders from naacp and other activists who express concern. unprecedented assault by proponents of the big lie and state legislators across the country. it is urgent. senate democrats are working hard to draft legislation that includes traditionally bipartisan provision, protecting people's fundamental right, making it easier to vote. the president will engage with in a couple calls in addition to build back better calls with members to provide read-out to you this afternoon, about the voting rights legislation that will be put forth. i would say right now the question for us and i'll bet we share this view with a number of civil rights leaders is, for senate republicans and what kind of leaders they want to be.
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will they play a role in making it easier to vote, protect this fundamental right or continue to be obstructionists and put democrats in a position where there is no alternative but to find another path forward. it is up to them, these are bipartisan proposals talking about people's fundamental rights. >>-- manchin and sanders -- >> the words, i would say the president has been in touch with both senators, not through immediate words, but to better understand the path forward and what is -- what are priorities to each of them. he will continue to play that role. >> two quick ones on policy. senator manchin has been clear for a while now publicly. given your team try to figure out work arounds to that, does the president believe he can
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meet his mission gold if cepp is not in his final proposal? >> president biden has been clear about what he supports, 100 clean power by 2035 is a goal he committed to a year ago. he remains committed to it. good news, is there is range of good ideas and proposals from members of congress about how the legislations can help meet that goal. and there is no question in our mind, there is important debating right now happening about what the components of the climate proposals will be in the packages that these packages will have historic impact in addressing climate crisis. one more thing, i note the president has not waited for legislation, he has led the ship toward electric vehicles, components in the packages will move that forward. phased out submissions, made cross-government investment in clean energy, made commitment to
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use every lever to advance environmental justice and spur economic opportunity. it is absolutely pivotal these piece of legislation have climate components and they will to address the climate crisis. he's not waited for that, he's taken action of his own accord. >> one more, one of the critical -- in the package, discuss this a couple times in the last couple weeks. given the scale of the ramp up from opposition to proposal you laid out, in terms of push back or concerned about the future of that proposal? >> it should not be lost on anyone that the latest opposition to the proposals and the biggest ad spending against them is from the biggest banks who do not want to be bothered by inthrow and outflow. we can get to numbers where it is publicly available how much is being spent and how vocal this had opposition is. top 1% is responsible for 163
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billion a year innoed, but unpaid taxes. this proposal is about preventing high income individuals for not typical wage earners, they don't get paid through standard payroll, w-2s, vast majority, 97% are paying taxes they are owed, we are not talking about that, we're talking about highest income individuals, 1% responsible for $163 billion a year in owed, unpaid taxes. there are discussions, active discussionss, with senator widen, others in congress about how to ensure this is targeted at those who evade taxes and exemptions. be clear what this is about, about big banks deciding to protect wealthy americans that get away with not paying taxes they owe by fighting this common sense solution and we want to be clear about that. >> ask about moderna and the --
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that exist is production levelss. what is the biden administration doing to lean on this company and talked about using the tools that are available, are you going to use defense production act -- >> i don't have new actions to on preview for you. what i think you are eluding to, the doctor did not mince words and his expression of what moderna should be doing here, which is sharing their know-how with other parts of the world in order to increase capacity and production, something we definitely support. so the process of technology, as you know, involve teaching another company how to make a vaccine that takes specialized scientists and transferring intellectual properties. we want that to happen. my understanding is that the u.s. government does not have ability to compel moderna to
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take certain actions, it is something we support and want to happen and the doctor has been vocal about it, as well. >> will the president get involved in this discussion in terms of reaching out to the cea? he's had conversations with other ceos. >> i don't have anything to preview on that front. i mentioned we don't have the legal ability to compel, that doesn't change regardless of who is having the conversation. we've been crystal clear about what we would like to see happen here. >> follow-up on that. defense production act -- have you ruled out using it in this case? >> i am not here to announce, preview or roll out anything, our position is we would like to see them address their know-how to address this global pandemic. >> the nomination question, you mentioned economic nominees. to what extent does it hurt you that you don't have key treasury nominees in place to help you as you address these questions that
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we're discussing now in terms of the economic impact of the measures in the legislation? >> you mean impelementsing measures once they are passed into law? >> right. you don't have the secretary that -- certain people -- key policy makers at treasury who would be advising secretary yellin or not in place. does that hurt in your effort to move forward? >> well, i think there is no question first there are career employees in every agency, including department of treasury who have vast experience and play vital roles. it is true preference of any president is to have the individuals they nominated qualified individuals, who have unquestionable credentials serving in these roles. that is the preference, that does make things easier and that is what we like to see moving forward. go ahead. >> thank you there is mask
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requirement inside restaurants president biden and the first lady were not wearing masks on saturday, why? >> well, i think what we're referring to is photo of them walking out of a restaurant after they had eaten, mask in hand. they had not put them back on yet. i would say, of course, there are moments when we all don't put masks back on as quickly as we should. i don't think we should lose the forest through the trees, our objective is to get more people vaccinated, make sure that schools and companies around the country can put in place requirements to save lives and keep people safer and not overly focus on moments in time that don't reflect overarching policy. >> it was not exiting the restaurant, walking through the restaurant with no mask on. carve out for people under two or people actively eating or drinking, curious why the president was doing this. >> i think i just addressed it,
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peter. >> why did the president break his promise not to enter into decisions what cases the justice should bring and not bring? >> how did he break his promise? >> he was asked if doj should prosecute people who divide january 6 committee subpoenas and he did not say i will let the justice department decide, he said, yes. >> let me reiterate and i put out a statement on friday night to this on -- on this, conveyed one, president continue to believe january 6 was one of the darkest day necessary our democracy and continues to believe that the department of justice has the purview and independence to make decisions about prosecution and that continues to be his view and continues to be how he will govern. >> you say that is his view, that is not what he said. >> i just conveyed what his view is and how he's operated, governed and will continue to govern and i think that is important for people to watch. >> what changed since last year
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when he said i will not do what former president trump does and use justice department as my vehicle to insist something happen? >> since you give me the opportunity here, former president trump used his office to insight insurrection and put pressure on senior doj officials and they threatened to resign, i think there is hardly comparison there. >> president biden said, the justice department and my administration will be totally independent of me and he said he would not enter into what casess the ark igency would bring and not bring. >> he has not and will not. criminal prosecutions are their sole purview. criminal prosecutions are the sole purview of the department of justice, that is the president's position and what he nominated the attorney general to operate under, that is exactly what the attorney general is doing and those are the actions people can watch from this administration. >> as the public reflects on the life of colin powell and his
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public service, people are also now aware he had a breakthrough case of covid in addition to cancer and vulnerabilities. because he was fully vaccinated and got covid, that took his life, any concerns about how that will be interpreted publicly or how does that affect the message from the white house about the importance of vaccinations? >> as people saw in the statement issued by the president's very personal statement about his personal relationship, obviously a heartbreaking tragedy for the country and one the president is feeling personally. there are extremely rare cases of deaths or hospitalizations among fully vaccinated individuals, that has been the case even before the death of colin powell. especially among people, older people over a certain age and people who have underlying health issues or people battling other diseases, that has been the case. it is also the case and this is
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important for people to know and understand that unvaccinated person has 10 times greater risk of dying from covid-19 compared to fully vaccinated person. there is no question that vaccination, taking precaution can save lives. and it is still true in this race that certainly the death of colin powell, that underlying health issues, fighting other diseases, is something that can lead to greater risk. >> the administration on the issue of the texas abortion law is seeking redistress from the u.s. supreme court, can you speak to that? >> we've spoken a few times including statements from the president, he continues to believe that roe v wade is the law of the land, he supports efforts to codify roe v wade. >> texas abartion law and talking about the death of colin powell and talking about the importance of being vaccinated even though there are rare cases of death and breakthrough
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infections among people vaccinated. answering peter doocy's questions about the president saying people who refuse january 6 subpoena should be prosecuted, even though he said he will not tell the justice department what it to do and jen psaki not giving much explanation as to why the president and first lady were walking through the restaurant not wearing masks when dc guidance says they should have been wearing their masks. sandra? >> john: john, let's bring in david live at the white house. david, there was a moment off the top of jen psaki's remarkss before we were able to get in life, she announced president biden will meet tomorrow with house democrats at the white house, one group of progressives and another group of moderates, she was also asked about the ongoing war of words between joe manchin and bernie sanders,
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david. >> that is correct, it shows president biden is not giving up on social spending plan, even hard infrastructure bill. the president in connecticut on the tarmac after speaking about build back better said he will not hit the 3.5 trillion number, it is not going to happen. there is appetite from the white house to negotiations. without joe manchin, the president is in serious trouble when it comes to social spending deal, dealing with climate change part of the agenda. we don't know what the final number will be. bernie sanders put an op-ed in a newspaper, joe manchin said, stay out of my state, we know what we're doing here. seems joe manchin and bernie sanders on different sides. on the doj aspect peter brought up, i cover the department of justice and a spokesman for merrick garland after president
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biden said he believes defying subpoenas should be prosecuted, anthony coley said the department of justice will make its own independent decisions based on facts and law, period, full stop, end of quotation. >> sandra: all right, david live at the white house for us. >> john: keith kellogg, former national security advisor to president trump and vice president pence. you served alongside colin powell. panama was a deployment you had a lot of contact with him, your thoughts on his passing? >> he was an american icon. two great stories. i was assault brigade commander. we were taking out targets and that night after i had come back from taking targets, i was
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called by the general and said, your dad died. it was pretty emotional moment. we had gone through a lot. 10 days later colin powell came down as chairman of the joint chiefs and started questioning intelligence officers and talking about the invasion. colin powell stopped him and looked at me and said, tell me about your dad. tell me about your family. we spent five minutes, it just took me back and it showed that is the kind of leader he was, he had empathy and compassion about him. it struck me the kind of man he was. fast-forward, about nine months later, en route to the gulf, 82nd airborne division following command tour, he came up and they had the powell doctrine, we forgot about, fight with overwhelming force, fight to win, bring american people and have defined in state. we forgot that. when you look at him as person and strategy guy, i mean, the
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americans lost, americans today lost an american icon and really i think about that a lot. >> john: it is a real tragedy. i want to talk about something else that jen psaki was asked about, that is china test in august of this hyper sonic space vehicle. you say this could change the way wars are fought? >> absolutely. when you look at war fare, individuals, certain weapons change how you conduct war. the machine gun, the tank, the submarine issue the airplane, now you have hypersonic weapon system out there that are fielded by russians and chinese, for the viewer we're talking about missile that travels mock 5 or higher, two miles per second. we have no defenses against that right now. that was part of my frustration about getting out of afghanistan, we forgot the systems we ought to develop and r&d we ought to work with. i think there is a way out of this, it was smart move to create a space force. only way you will track this and
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attack it is through space command and force that is ability to do something with orbiting seattles to pick up missiles and something we need to think about. it goes back to the strategy piece, we lost the bubble on it, started to create hyper sonic missiles and defense department went away from it. in the obama administration and now two adversaries have them and we don't. >> john: lots to talk about in the weeks and months ahead on this point and others. general kellogg, thank you for your recollection of general colin powell, as well. >> sandra: supply chain mess happening right now is threatening holiday shopping season for many, democrats now say they have a plan to fix the situation, more spending, is that the answer? is that what our economy needs, panelist will debate that next. oh! are you using liberty mutual's coverage customizer tool? so you only pay for what you need.
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>> sandra: less than 10 weeks to go before christmas, cargo ships waiting off the coast struggling to make goods to store shelves across the country as secretary pete buttigieg says the problem will not go away any time soon. listen. >> a lot of the challenges we've been experiencing this year will continue into next year. part of what is happening is not just supply side. it is demand side. demand is off the chartss, retail sales are -- >> jacqui: we bring in our panel, former president of the american action, is here, former chair of the academic advisors under president obama, welcome to both of you. douglas, that sounds like a big challenge for shoppers to get what they need, what will it look like this holiday season? >> well, this problem is baked in the cake and not going to be fixed between now and christmas.
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supply chain problems are real, they became visible when the administration of congress overdid it with trillion spending in march, that generated inflation, showing no signs of coming down quickly, as promised. to do more spending would be a mistake, time for the government to get out of the way, not raise taxes, making supply chain more expensive, not limit supply chains and open things up and allow this problem to get worked out. if you think about it, one mano labor shortage is another person's supply chain problem. number one priority should be getting people back to work. >> sandra: absolutely, we have a truck driver coming up next. the democratic congressman is making case spending more will help fix this crisis, that is hard to believe, here he is in his own words. >> we got to get people back into the work force, what will get people back into the work force? providing child care. this bill is tackling inflation.
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>> is that the answer, to spend more money and pass massive spending bills to fix the problem? >> well, i think you're mixing two things. i would say to doug, the problems of the supply chain and inflation are not in the u.s., not caused by u.s. policy, ships backed up throughout asia, this is world-wide problem. spending are not on goods, inflation and supply chain issues are about physical goods the demand has come back for. bills in the senate are for child care, healthcare, education, those are not the things that are what this problem is and the spending on infrastructure is spread over 20 years. i think it is bit of red herring. >> sandra: let douglas respond to that, douglas, what is hard to understand about not having
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enough workers to unload the ships, load them on trucks, drive trucks and stock the store shelves? >> yeah, i will agree on austin on the fact this is global phenomena. we have global commitment to fight this pandemic and doesn't appear to be strategy in place right now. we have domestic issues, no question about it. some domestic policies are contributing and notion this incredibly poor designed child care bill will get people back to work quickly, it will not do that. other elements, child tax credit, most recent research shows going wrong direction, this is not what we need. >> sandra: final question, the president said and jen psaki backed this up, he's been working on this problem since he took office, for months now. why are we in the worst possible position at this moment? >> well, we aren't in the worst possible position and i just
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emphasizing, this is happening in all the advanced economies of the world. so the argument it is something the president did or did not do is totally wrong. it is happening everywhere. >> sandra: likely to continue, appreciate both of you joining us, thank you. john. >> john: cancel culture pushing to erase thomas jefferson. up next, the vote to boot a founding father and why some say his statue in new york city hall should stay. stay with us. a veteran who may have served in my time, during the vietnam era, would be eligible today for a va home loan. so many do not know that. there's no expiration date on your eligibility for the va home loan. every veteran, every service member out there if you're thinking about buying a home if you're thinking about a cash out refi whatever you're thinking with a mortgage, you should come to newday usa first. veteran homeowners.
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>> john: hearing underway as seven-foot statue of thomas jefferson facing a vote today for removal because jefferson owned slaves. david lee miller live at city hall with the latest on the debate. david. >> john, that is right. founding father thomas jefferson could soon find himself evicted from new york city hall. a group called new york's public design commission is embroiled in controversy. they are holding a virtual public hearing to decide whether or not to remove jefferson's statue from the building after 187 years. at issue, jefferson owning slaves. theres were called to remove the
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statue and a councilman was among the first to call for its ouster. >> insult to our people to have a slave holding pedophile racist who said we were inferior, racist who said we were not equal to whites in body or mind, to highlight him is ridiculous. >> those who want the statue to remain say jefferson's numerous accomplishments, all men are created equal should be taken into consideration, and removing the statue is a slippery slope. >> the type of woke progressivism that wants monuments and memorials to be torn down will not be satisfied by just thomas jefferson. we were chuckling years ago saying what is next for the founding fathers, i think what is next, people like george washington and who knows who else. >> if the statue is removed, john, there are plans to put it
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on term nant loan to the new york historical society. back to you. >> john: we'll keep watching. remembering the life of an iconic american, colin powell's family announcing his death from covid complications earlier this morning. the family also says the general was fully vaccinated. dr. nicole sapphire will join us with her thoughts on this and congressman michael mccall and jonathan turley, coming up in the next hour of "america reports," stay with us. i've spent centuries evolving with the world. that's the nature of being the economy. observing investors choose assets to balance risk and reward. with one element securing portfolios, time after time. gold. agile and liquid. a proven protector. an ever-evolving enabler of bold decisions. an asset more relevant than ever before. gold. your strategic advantage.
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>> john: fox news alert to stand a brand-new hour. is the man of steel about to buckle to the woke mob? brian kilmeade sounds off on superman giving up his fight for the american way and why the pc crowd might be far more damaging than kropt knowite ever could. >> sandra: appeals court out
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west, a lot of americans are learning their ability to buy firearms is about to change. all of this could be a preview of the showdown ahead in the nation's highest court. >> john: top name in constitutional law, jonathan turley with what gun owners need to know. >> sandra: and defense building for police, siege of violent crime in the city, for many, the fear of losing their jobs, mandate for police, at center of discussion with mayor lightfoot. the mayor is about to speak. >> john: honoring the life of colin powell, whose death from covid, despite getting the shot has people asking serious questions. "america reports" on fox news deep dive. between the solid minutes and every fact we know about breakthrough cases. this is one time we'll begin with the bottom line. vaccines work. they save lives.
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dr. nicole saphier is here with what everyone needs to know about staying safe even after you have had the shot. welcome to hour two of "america reports," i'm john roberts, good to be with you, sandra. >> sandra: i'm sandra smith, millions of americans have been vaccinated, just like colin powell. just like him, millions of americans have pre-existing health conditions and they are at an age that puts them at higher risk. covid still breaks through, though, and in this case, tragic result. before we bring in dr. nicole saphier, joining us in moments, we'll start with what we know about powell's health prior to the infection. jennifer griffin kicks things off. >> jennifer: colin powell's family announced his death from complications due to covid-19 in a facebook post. he was fully vaccinated and being treated for multiple myeloma, a blood disease affecting bone marrow.
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his immune system was weakened as a result of the treatment. it was second time powell had cancer, he was successfully treated for prostate cancer in 2003. he rose to be the nation's top diplomat and first black chairman of the joint chiefs, broke through many racial barriers. in commencement speech in 1994, shortly after retiring from 35 years in the army, colin powell addressed the students grappling with the limits of free speech on campus and the racial turmoil that followed a hate-filled antianti-semitic speech by nation of islam leader about black empowerment. powell's words 20 years ago resonate to this day. >> above all, never lose faith in america. it's faults are yours to fix, not to curse. america is a family, there may be differences and disputes within the family, but we must not allow the family to be broken into warring factions.
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from diversity of our people, draw strength and not see weakness, believe in america with all your heart and soul, with all of your mind, remember it remains the last best hope of earth. >> colin powell dedicated his life to public service because he never stopped believing in america. and we believe in america in no small part because it helped produce someone like colin powell. >> jennifer: secretary of state colin powell, soldier until the end died this morning at walter reed. sandra. >> john: bring in physician dr. nicole saphier for more on all of this. we do know, doctor, that powell was suffering from multiple myeloma, which can diminish his ability to fight off infection. would that account for the breakthrough infection, could it be waning efficacy of the vaccine, both or maybe neither?
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>> john, those are all very good questions. people all over social media are trying to use this anecdotal report of secretary powell dying from a covid breakthrough. stick with what we know and leave it at that. we have an 84-year-old man who suffered from parkinsons disease, previously treated for prostate cancer and was undergoing treatment for multiple myeloma, which is cancer of the blood. we know that of the 1.3 million americans who are in remission from these type of cancers or are still currently being treated for them, they have decreased ability to fight off infections, as well as decreased ability to mount immune response after vaccine. we know that secretary powell had been fully vaccinated, his second dose was in february, which means he would have been available in the first wave of booster shots in august. they did say he was scheduled to receive his booster shot last week, but because he fell ill,
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he did not get it. we can surmise several things. when if comes to multiple myeloma, and cancer of the blood, about one-fourth of patients had no detectable antibodies after vaccination, which is why we knew it was critical for patients to get the booster shot to build immunity n. a specific study in journal of leukemia, they showed 55% of patients with multiple myeloma, did not mount sufficient immune response against the vaccines. while they were fully vaccinated, that vaccine is not as protective in this patient population as the general population. also, couple with his age, at being 84, we know that about two-thirds -- sorry, three-fourths, 78% of deaths from covid occur in those over the age of 65. when you reach 85, the chance of
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dying from covid is about 570 timess greater than if you are younger than 30. putting these together, secretary powell was vulnerable to covid-19. we have to remember, we are still in the midst of a pandemic. this virus is still deadly for certain patient populations, why you have to do due diligence and do what you can to protect the vulnerable. >> sandra: doctor, where are we as far as knowing what we need to do for the fully vaccinated who have not gotten a booster shot, what we know now about who should go get one, who is able to get one and how much that actually improves the efficacy rates of the pfizer and moderna vaccines? >> something important to keep in mind, based on current data from cdc, those over 65 who are vaccinated, still nine times higher rate of hospitalization in the unvaccinated than the
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vaccinated. yes, you are seeing breakthroughs, why we are recommending boosters in this population, but even just fully vaccinated who have not gotten a booster have lower rate of hospitalization than if they are unvaccinated alone. for general population who do not fit in the boxes where you are immunocompromised or suppressed, because of age or medical condition, you have to know, the antibodies may wane from the vaccines, your memory system produces b cells and t cells, they still are there and they are probably going to be there for years to come. so people start to get nervous the efficacy of the vaccines are waning, it is turning virus that can be deadly into a very annoying cold in most people who are fully vaccinated and what we need to keep the eye on the prize. like the flu shot, never expect today to get us to zero cases,
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decreases hospitalization and death and we recommend the flu shot and the covid vaccine is the same. >> john: question, doctor, i think a lot of people have. in the months after getting vaccine,antbody level for the most part, is pretty high. you probably exposed to covid virus a number of times, maybe kwloour not, i can imagine that you probably be exposed to it a number of times, you don't get it and all of a sudden, you do. why? >> well, that's a good question, that is a lot of guesswork, you may say you have been exposed to it. what does that mean? were nuclose, prolonged contact with someone? do you know if you were so exposed to the virus you need to mount your immune system to fight it off? hard to say. it has become clear just to the general population after six to eight months we're seeing breakthrough infection, is that
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because efficacy decreased or because people have a sense of feeling protected from the vaccine and not wearing a mask when they would have before or maybe they are in larger indoor gatherings they haven't been doing before. it is hard to say, can't look at decreasing antibodies when we talk about vaccine efficacy, it is not one size fits all. immune system is more complex than the antibodies. >> sandra: your information is so good, people have questions over breakthrough cases. saphier lead us off with something you want out there in the wake of colin powell's death that you want people to know because obviously a lot of information to take in on that. final thought from you. >> sandra, it is very upsetting to see that people taking colin powell's death and using as vaccine didn't work. this is a very specific situation and one to use
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someone's death to try and make a point that really doesn't carry a lot of weight to it, very frustrating. i can tell you this is a very specific situation, you have elderly gentlemen, age of 84, he was vulnerable for covid-19 and you add cancer of the blood and he is the most vulnerable when it comes to covid-19. >> sandra: our thoughts with his family at this moment after learning of his death this morning. thank you. >> john: thanks, doctor, good to talk to you. good information from the doctor there. >> sandra: a lot for everybody to keep track of. we're not all medical doctors, so much to take in. we learned of colin powell's passing and these are all questions people have out there. thanks to the doctor who joined us on that. >> john: in 20 someodd years i knew colin powell, i knew him to be such a robust person, that to hear he had died from covid was unbelievable shock to me this morning. >> sandra: an amazing life.
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uncertainty keeps a lot of people from getting the shot, even if they are ordered to in places like chicago and seattle, some sworn to serve and protect. >> wish i could say more, but this is it, stay tuned, this is the last time you will hear me in a patrol car. >> john: just one of the police officerss in seattle who is refusing to get the vaccine, similar standoff between police and the mayor in chicago. america reports, special coverage on covid mandates in cases that break through, continue income. that spin class was brutal. well, you can try using the buick's massaging seat. oh. yeah, that's nice. can i use apple carplay to put some music on? sure, it's wireless. what's your buick's wi-fi password? it's buick envision. that's a really tight spot. i used to hate parallel parking. (all) me too!
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police officers and the city they protect over vaccine mandate n. chicago, mayor lori lightfoot trading lawsuits. in seattle, mandate takes effect after the city has lost hundreds of officers. the questions critics are asking, are cities sacrificing public safety? fox team coverage, dan springer is live in seattle. begin with garrett in chicago. hi, garrett. >> sandra, city leaders over the mayor vaccine mandate and top brass at chicago police department say any officer who doesn't comply could be terminated. the chicago tribune reports that is just one of the threats cpd laid out in a sunday night memo in the latest phase of city hall's pressure campaign with the mandate, requiring all city employees to be vaccinated or undergo testing twice a week.
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starting soon as tomorrow, any city employee who hasn't uploaded vacs status to database will not be paid. head of chicago police union is warning if the city enforces that policy, it could take as many as half the city's 10,000 active officers off the streets at a time the city is facing epidemic of violent crime. >> you know issue the reality is, we have a profession nobody else wants to do right now. they cannot get anybody to go to the police academy. she is vilifying the police in city with 185 expressway shootings this year alone, 280 kids shot this year alone and she like nothing else going on but covid. >> urging rake and file officers not to comply with the mandate, which lori lightfoot argues is about keeping people safe. city leaders haven't said what they will do if half of the police force is taken off the
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streets. mayor lightfoot is not backing down and hopes most officers will ultimately comply. >> if you ignore a directive of your supervisor or worse, direct order lawfully given, you will enjoy your career, that will follow you forever. over what? going to a website, clicking yes or no? if no, saying that you will sign up for testing? really? that is worth it? i don't think it is. >> mayor and the police union filed lawsuits against each other over the mandate and a judge is expected to hear the arguments a week from today. >> sandra: live on the ground in the windy city. thank you. >> john: to dan springer in seattle, police officers have to be vaccinated by today and some clearly are not going to be. dan. >> yeah, john, we're seeing the same thing garrettissuing is seeing in chicago. over 100 officers are playing
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game of chicken with the mayor's office. it is high stakes for them and the residents of the city. 300 police officers have left the department since 2020, 20% of the force. violent crime including murder has jumped to 30-year high, response times are way up and many 911 calls are not getting responded to. 18% of the department is unvaccinated and could be fired at midnight tonight. 8% seeking religious or medical exemption issue the rest have not uploaded vaccination status. >> if we lose even 50 officers, due to this mandate, that will be catastrophic to our ability to answer 911 calls in emergency situations at a reasonable time. >> but like chicago, the politics in seattle and washington state are working against the unvaccinated government workers. democratic governor ensley made
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it impossible to get -- defund the police department by 50% in 2020. they would welcome firing unvaccinated officers, each the mayoral candidate considered pre-police is not budging. >> i support the mandate. i support, and that's unambiguous, in how we terminate any officer should be a bargain for condition of employment. >> now there was a lawsuit filed by state workers, they had a hearing today seeking an injunction against the mandate. it failed, so tomorrow thousands of state workers and perhaps over 100 city cops could be fired as of midnight tonight. john. >> john: dan springer watching for us in seattle. thank you. sandra. >> sandra: you hear them answering calls for help, police in seattle say vaccine push more pressure on force seeing enough.
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look at the scene last week, violent protesters smashing windows, spraying graffiti on buildings, even in seattle, demonstrators taking to the street for one-year anniversary of the killing of self-proclaimed anarchist, local police estimate it caused $500,000 in damages. it is so tough to see this, considering how many small businesses that got so hit during the rioting that we saw of the summer of 2020, many of them were not able to bounce back and they are still struggling today. >> john: it is interesting to see, as well, in some of the cities who were first in line to start defunding police, a lot of them are refunding the police, after they see what happens when you take money away from the blue who protect your city. >> sandra: indeed. >> john: a lot of people knew that would happen, others clearly didn't. shocking report suggests china's weapons program far more advanced than anyone in the u.s.
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intel community ever calculated. >> sandra: how did a launch catch us so off guard and how is the white house responding today? the top republican on the house foreign affairs committee michael mccaul will join us next.
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>> sandra: china caught u.s. intelligence off guard with a missile launch. according to reports china sent into orbit hyper sonic missile carrying a nuke. beijing is not confirming anything, china government adds if it is true, it is just one more blow to the united states since "strategic superiority," congressman michael mccaul is here to react in moments, first a report from the white house for us. >> about an hour ago, white house press secretary jen psaki said we want to have competition with china, we don't want the
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competition to turn into conflict. hyper sonic missiles travel five times the speed of sound, they are incredibly fast and difficult to detect. you can maneuver these miciles. countries can maneuver them, making them more advanced than traditional ballistic missiles. china is denying this report and u.s. officialss not commenting on the report. according to final times, they put out a report late saturday, they are saying china tested nuclear hyper sonic missile in august and the report says u.s. intelligence officials were caught off guard. chinese say it was a spacecraft test. u.s. officials constantly watch what the chinese is doing, there is natural competition between the nations when it comes to technology and defense materials. secretary of defense lloyd austin oversees meeting
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officials in georgia, was asked a few hours ago about the alleged missile. listen. >> what i can tell you is that we watch closely china's development of armament and advanced capabilities and systems that will only increase tensions in the region. >> mike gallagher, congressman from wisconsin says this test should serve as call to action, if we stick to our current course or place our hopes in deterrence, we will lose the new cold war with communist china within a decade. china announced earlier this year it boosted defense budget by $208 billion, 7% it boosted. sandra. >> sandra: live at the white house, john. >> john: bring in michael mccaul, ranking member on the house foreign affairs committee and on the house homeland security committee.
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congressman, how did this slip by us? >> michael: great question. this is the most advanced, most dangerous weapon system that we cannot defend ourselves from. we knew they had these missiles when they paraded them in the square. we have not seen them actually use it. it is the capability that it was able to orbit the earth and land about 25 miles away from its target, that is the most disturbing thing of all. i call it a wake-up call for the united states and our allies and a sputnik moment, if you will, where we have to win this global competition gaeps communist china. >> john: missed by two dozen miles, that is only first attempt, they can dial that back in quickly. space x was blowing up boosters on ships offshore and now easily land them exactly where they took off from. it is just a matter of the
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learning curve. does this represent a new cold war with china? at least maybe in the stages? >> michael: is like a new space race and bit of a cold war. we are in competition in space. we created space force under the trump administration for this very reason. particularly frightening about hyper sonic, it is made to avoid detection. it flies below altitude, five times the speed of sound and zig-zags. we currently have no missile defense system to stop it. imagine if hyper sonic was put into a submarine off the coast of the united states. this is what we had been worried about over the years and to see this kind of capability they have, it is putting the -- heightening tension. i think he is flexing his muscle, the president, and sensing weakness. after afghanistan, and the failure of what happened in
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afghanistan, they view this president as not projecting strength, but weakness and when they see that, they test and they are testing this president, who i believe is failing in showing of strength. >> john: congressman, what might this all have to do with taiwan? >> michael: well, this is the most disturbing part, i think, john. the technology in most part came from the united states. they have used to build hypersonics. we have software companies in the united states, that exported this software to tsmc in taiwan, who made the chips that china infiltrated and got the chips from tsmc that created and helped build these hypersonics. this is why, we have called for more rigid export control laws and action, so that the united
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states for god's sake is not sharing the very technology that the chinese military are using to build most advanced weapons systemss. >> john: what i was getting at, though, is this part of a military umbrella that would make impossible any u.s. response to a chinese invasion of taiwan? >> michael: right. if you're in taiwan right now, in particular after afghanistan, the ccp is very embolden, so is russia, putin with the ukraine. taiwan is very much in their bull's eye, part of long-term strategy to take taiwan back as part of empirial china. i would be nervous if i were taiwan. they are testing this president. if we show no deterrence rest assured communist china will take it over, free democracy in the nation, in the world and they created a lot of
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semiconductor chips and we can't allow that to happen. to turn to the key, but they sense weakness here. >> john: yeah, we'll keep following this clearly this is something that will only get worse issue not better. congressman michael mccaul, great state of texas, thank you for being with us. i was talking to general keith kellogg earlier, he is concerned about taiwan thinking china has technology to keep u.s. carries 1300 miles away, otherwise they will get blown out of the water and how do you counteract possible invasion of taiwan, if you can't get close to it? >> sandra: growing concern about just that, john. we'll have more coming up. developing moments ago, this just happened, state department announced team in haiti is in communication with the families of american missionaries kidnapped there over the weekend, all this as we learned the f.b.i. joined the search. police saying 12 adults and five children taken by gang known for
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mass kid napings, victims were part of ohio-based christian ministry and visiting orphanage outside of port-au-prince when they were kidnapped. john. >> john: showdown on second amendment as nation's highest court takes on the first major guns rights case in a decade. jonathan turley here to break it down for us. >> sandra: and john, not even superman is safe from cancel culture. brian kilmeade is on deck with his thoughts, he's here to react just ahead. ♪
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>> sandra: it's a bird, it's a plane, a new slogan? superman's mantra is no longer truth and the american way. the man of steel's new mission statement is truth, justice and a better tomorrow. so is the american way controversial? brian kilmeade, cohost of fox and friends, joins us now. why would they do away with the
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american way, brian? >> brian: it is amazing, it seems like america is being ripped apart from the inside. in china, they are taking down, telling google, make sure the anti-china thing is out. in america, you know what is in? anything anti-american seems to be in. last time they changed their slogan was in the 1960's, they put freedom at the end, not as bad. the 1960s was a time a lot of people were mad at america. the war was unpopular, civil unrest. now it seems as though america is upset and embarrassed about being american, creators of dc comics. >> sandra: variety pointss out that the head of the company in this official announcement to change the motto appears to be a pointed statement the man of steel is a hero for everyone, maybe this is more inclusive. >> brian: what do you think? i don't think so at all. the american way is synonymous
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with 1.5 million trying to sneak into the border on regular basis, people vying for citizenship, people want to be part of america, they want to travel here. the american way is positive and if someone is going to have a problem with the american way, it shouldn't be america. >> sandra: dc comic, this is their statement on this motto, truth, justice and better tomorrow will better reflect global story lines we're telling across d.c. to honor the character's incredible legacy of 80 years of building a better world. superman is a symbol of hope, inspiring people from around the world. what better than america, brian? >> brian: great point. frees them up to do hungary and czech republic and get inside their politics without being clamped down and cornered with the american way as a lead weight. all you can do, if you are an american consumer, decide if you
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are anti-american, i will choose a different cartoon. >> sandra: tell us about the president and your freedom fighter, you new book? >> brian: president and freedom fighter, antithesis of this. abraham lincoln, frederick douglas and the battle to save america's soul. that is what happened. america is a story that gets better and better, never perfect, always trying to be, pivotal moment, african american born in slavery, this american with who is essentially born to two illiterate parents, both step uch to lead america in the most important time, the way superman did as he tried to come as a child, raised by civilian humans and realized he was a cut above. in america, full circle. >> sandra: pivotal moment where we all hope and pray we come back stronger, as we always have. >> brian: let's hope so. >> sandra: good to see you, i will join you tomorrow morning.
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john. jaushgs another controversial topic, court in oregon tossing out restriction on gun sales to buyers between 18 and 20, part of age discrimination against the ban. the ruling could be first round of knock-out fight to come on the second amendment as supreme court prepares to hear first major gun rights case in more than 10 years, decade that has seen game-changing shift on the nation's high court. bring on our guy on all things constitutional, jonathan turley, professor at george washington university law school and fox news contributor. the oregon case is not coming before the supreme court, what is coming is new york state law on concealed carry permits. what is that all about, jonathan and how might it reshape the debate over the second amendment for the most significant time since the heller case in 2008?
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>> jonathan: this is a fascinating case. last year the new york rifle and pistol association had a case accepted by the supreme court. this was a very restrictive new york law on transporting guns from your home. many of us believe the law was flagrantly unconstitutional. new york politicians pounded their chest and said take this to the supreme court. it is supreme court called the bluff and accepted the case and right before the court could rule, they pulled the case, changed the law and pulled the case, avoided ruling. four justices cried foul and said this was manipulating the docket and some of them wanted to go ahead and rule even though the case was effectively moved. what is interesting, the justices said this is not the end, we'll look for case to deal with lower courts chipping away at the second amendment. they did and found a case by the same plaintiff, new york rifle
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and pistol association out of new york. this is a case involving concealed weapons. if those four justices hold firm, they just need either roberts or barrett, and they could issue a major gun ruling. >> john: what is it the plaintiff is complaining about here? that the rules regarding concealed carry and who issued permit and who is not are arbitrary and capricious? >> jonathan: the law says you have to show proper cause in order to have a concealed weapon permit and that includes showing that you are of good moral standing. what the plaintiffs said, this ambiguous standard requires them to prove they need a gun or they have a right to one. and they said that is really sort of limits their second amendment right there has to be clarity and should be default, assumed to be able to carry a
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gun for your own protection. briefss in the case are interesting, historians are talking about how carrying a gun in public was treated synonymous to right to bear arms. this is all elements that existed in 2008 with heller, this long historical evidence that has been presented. but also now you've got justices that are locked and loaded. they are -- they said last year they wanted to deal with lower courts chipping away at the second amendment. they seem ready to do that. >> john: one thing you didn't have with heller 6-3 conservative majority on the court. >> jonathan: that's right. and brett kavanaugh was one of the four justices that was quite miffed what new york city did last year, that leaves roberts and barrett, they probably do have five or six votes to overturn this law. the question
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is how strong are they going to be? a lot of pro-gun rights groups have told the court, you sort of created this problem, there was a line in heller where you said no right is absolute. you said that could be limited in some places. they said, you need to push back, strengthen the second amendment. >> john: we're watching this, very interesting case. jonathan turley, great to spend time with you. thank you. sandra. >> sandra: you have seen the ships lined up for miles yet still they are heading nowhere. sight that shows just how many store shelf products can't make it where they need to go. our next guest says that represents a bigger problem and just a fraction of the crisis because so much of what goes on the shelf or on your plate right now could be on a truck. we will have the head of the trucking association join us on this emergency next.
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>> sandra: as courts begin opening and operating around the clock to unload the stuck cargo, there's the problem of getting goods out to the stores. the trucking industry is short tens of thousands of drivers. companies say it's hard to hire right now. sean, thanks for joining us. first off, what do you believe is the number 1 problem right now not just with the trucking industry but overall with the supply chain crisis? >> good to be with you. i'd say under the most ideal conditions, the global supply chain is a complex and delicate choreography between each link in the chain. especially talking about port of l.a., port of long beach, which has been in the headlines lately. i'd say every link in that chain is part of the challenge today and ultimately part of the
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solution. so whether you're talking about the steam ship lines, the port terminal operators, the on-dock labor, trucking and even beyond that, over to the warehouses, the distribution centers and at times rail, every one of those links has to be -- we have to get the efficiencies in place and really get a solution to make sure that the flow is optimized, which it is not at present. >> sandra: so the biden administration said part of the solution is to have the ports open 24/7. is that going to fix the problem? >> no. not singularly. but every step is helpful. we have trucks out at the ports right now. they're in line, waiting for chassis, which they need to have to accept a shipping container and transport that container off port. we also are trying to get empty
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containers back out of the way. there's some storage and mismatch issues going on there. on the one hand, when you talk about the 24/7 operations at the ports, it's a step in the right direction but doesn't necessarily mean that you can have a trucker out there in the middle of the night picking up a container if the distribution center or the warehouse is not open in the middle of the night. the good news is, you have the different stakeholders throughout the chain working on this. there's a lot of attention to it. there's no single magical solution to this or magic solution and it's not an overfight fix by any means. >> is the vaccine mandate, is that essential to your industry is that getting in the way of being able to have as many truckers as we need of getting the goods to the shelves? >> i'd say any type of vaccine mandate is challenging for the trucking industry.
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if you think about it over the past 1 1/2 years, and i would commend all of the professional men and women out there around the country that have been heroic in their efforts throughout the pandemic to get the emergency and essential supplies not only to the hospitals and the medical professionals but to first responders and all of the commerce out to the citizens around the country. you know, i'd say if you think about it, a truck driver probably has one of the best work scenarios being by themselves in a truck. in terms of the necessity of the vaccine mandate, there's challenges there. i think this industry has proven throughout the past 1 1/2 years that it can operate and function in a great way. i think the mandate is going to be a challenge. if you think about it, if there's a testing component to this as well, literally we're talking about hundreds of thousands of drivers on the move at any given time.
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>> not to mention, you're a head of the california trucking association. you're paying $4.57 for a gallon of diesel. that is expensive and drives prices up. thanks. john, we owe a lot to our truck drivers. >> john: we do. >> sandra: part of the engine of the economy. >> john: this will be a long time before it gets worked out. >> sandra: i'm sandra smith. thanks for joining us. >> john: i'm john roberts. "the story" starts rights now with martha maccallum. >> martha: good to see you. good afternoon. i'm martha maccallum in new york. today we mourn the loss of an earn icon. a soldier in the u.s. army. he was born here in new york city from immigrants from jamaica. he rose to the highest levels of the u.s. government. >> it shows to the world what is possible in this country. shows that follow our model and over a period of time from our beginning, if you believe in the values we espouse, you can see things as miraculous ase

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