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>> jesse: back door. >> judge jeanine: he needs. >> greg: gut don't fat shame the hamster, judge. >> judge jeanine: eating peppermint patty. >> greg: "special report" is up next with mr. bret baier who is going to be on colbert, correct? >> bret: i was last night. i'm sure you had better ratings. >> greg: i bet you did great. >> bret: i'm looking forward to trying the jeanine. >> jesse: everybody wants to try the jeanine. >> bret: good evening, welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. breaking tonight president biden's legislative agenda hangs in the balance on capitol hill even as a debt ceiling deal to punt a potential showdown until december seems imminent, new polling tonight indicates all americans of all different stripes are losing faith in the president. according to the polls, giving his his lowest approval rating of his almost nine months in office while democrats in recent polls have given the president a
lot of slack. independents have shifted dramatically to disapproving of the job he is doing. one of the areas of disappointment is his handling of the coronavirus pandemic but he is most under water in the latest polls on the issue of border security and immigration. suburban chicago advocating vaccine mandates businesses. peter doocy starts us off live on the north lawn. good evening, peter. >> good evening, bret. the president's progressive plan remains stalled in office. is he trying to do something he can do on his own that he think also reverse that sliding popularity and that is create new vaccine requirements. >> we're headed in the right direction if we don't keep our eye on the ball here. >> the model workplace according to president biden is one that makes people get vaxxed to get paid. >> look, i know that vaccination requirements are a tough medicine. unpopular with some.
politics for others. but they are life-saving. game-changing for our country. >> day trip comes with the president's poll numbers have turned upside down two issues once considered by biden world to be winners. covid, where he has now got a 48% approval rating and the economy, where he has got a 3% approval rating according to quinnipiac. >> he has done everything he possibly could to divide us. most recent example is she's unconstitutional mandates that are being incredibly corrosive rosen. >> there could be new rules ahead requirement everyone who flies commercially get vaccinated. >> options are off the table. >> vaccination rates with out pace those without by 20 point according to report released by the white house. >> vaccine requirements work. they are also good for the economy. and gets people back into the workplace. >> the opposite could be true. according to some critics. >> very tight labor market.
workers who don't want to abide by joe biden's mandate can simple walk down the street to a new company, sometimes getting higher pay as well. meantime these employers are going to face thousands of dollars of fines if they don't act as joe biden's covid police. all directly contradicting the promises he made not just in the election, but after the election as well. >> that promise came in response to a december question from fox news. >> do you think the covid vaccine be mandatory. >> no. i wouldn't demand it to be mandatory. >> what a difference 10 months makes. >> we know there is no other way to beat the pandemic than to get the vast majority of the americans vaccinated. while i didn't race to do it right away, that's why i have had to move toward requirements that everyone get vaccinated or i had the authority to do it. that wasn't my first instinct. >> very reflective by the president there who also says that hospitals are so overcrowded right now the wife of a close friend was waiting a
long time at a pennsylvania e.r. so the president says that last night he personally picked up the phone, called the receiving nurse at that hospital to ask what the situation was. we have asked officials around here what exactly happened next. bret? >> bret: continue to ask that question. peter doocy live on the north lawn, thank you. athletes at western michigan university will not have to be vaccinated to participate in their sport. the sixth circuit of appeals today denied the school's appeal of a federal judge's ruling that the mandate violates the athlete's constitutional rights to follow their christian religion. the school argued its policy is neutral toward religion. the case could be heading to the u.s. supreme court. a deal as mentioned at the top of the show, is in the works on capitol hill tonight. one that could be voted on this evening. the deal would essentially be a punt. a temporary extension of the federal debt ceiling eliminating walking the country up to the
next fiscal cliff now but setting up another show down in december. senate democrats have agreed to a republican proposal to extend the limit until early december. the senate is likely to vote on this shortly. congressional correspondent chad pergram has been following it all day and joins us now. good evening, chad. >> good evening, bret. the package would hike the debt ceiling by early december. mitch mcconnell offered democrats a deal after saying for weeks they should lift the debt ceiling on their own. >> look, mcconnell blinked. i think senator mcconnell took a hard look at the risks this was posing to the filibuster. and decided that he would step aside and let us mo forward. >> there was chatter the democrats could try to create a special carveout on the filibuster exclusively for the debt limit. but there is no evidence democrats had the votes to do so. they needed all 50 democrats to go along. >> how close are democrats
yesterday to doing a filibuster carveout? >> i don't think, no. that wasn't going to happen. i mean, i don't know what the desires were of some people thinking it might happen. it was never going to happen. >> some g.o.p. members are mad at mcconnell. they say he backed away from making democrats lift the debt ceiling by themselves. >> i don't understand why we are folding here at the end. this is the complete capitulation. i'm upset with us because we had a strategy to make them pay a price to raise the debt ceiling and we blinked. >> mcconnell's defenders say the move prevents democrats from having carte blanche to spend for a year. democrats were ready deal. otherwise a crisis over the debt limit could hijack their big spending bills. there is now an agreement to break the filibuster tonight. a final vote comes after 8:00 p.m. eastern time. bret? >> bret: watch that meantime, chad the senate judiciary committee today releases this
report about then president trump's efforts to enlist the justice department for help after the presidential election. what are you hearing about this? >> well, the chair of the committee dick durbin he says the former president wanted doj to overturn the election. it shows how close we came to a constitutional crisis. the report revealed how officials threatened to resign en masse if the president bounced acting attorney general jeffrey roseanne and installed jeffrey clark in his place. the report says the former president wanted doj to probe election outcomes in arizona and pennsylvania, the top g.o.p. member on the committee chuck grassley says president trump focused on legitimate complaints. graphsly says the former president followed the lead of his advisers. bret? >> bret: okay, chad, thank you. parents concerned about their children's education, that's a lot of them, and their trite speak freely about it, are meeting today in virginia. this conference and the conference attendees are describing the biden administration's newest effort as trying to control dissent
against school boards. the department of justice claims it's about safety, concerned parents say it's designed to push them to be quiet and just go along. correspondent mark meredith reports tonight from leesburg, virginia. >> we just have to keep speaking. >> amy rogers is a northern virginia mom turned education activist. she says she is proud toe speaking up at her local school board meeting. >> it's a free country last time i checked and we still have freedom of speech and we are taxpayers of this county. our children go there. >> rogers and other conservatives say they are fired up after attorney general merrick garland's recent memo urging the government to do more to protect school board members. the biden administration says it is stepping in because it believes education officials nationwide are facing increasing threats of violence as parents voice outrage on a number of issues. >> regardless of the reasoning, threats and violence against public servants is illegal. that's what he was conveying
from the department of justice. >> the government is also urging the public to report threats to the fbi, a directive that has republicans including texas senator ted cruz outraged. >> the attorney general told the department of justice that those parents of school boards should be treated as threats and as domestic terrorists. >> cruz and fellow republicans on the senate judiciary committee sent the attorney general a letter today demanding to know why the justice department is involved at all. they write: the fbi should not be involved in quashing and criminalizing discourse that is well beneath violent acts. interest groups representing school boards are thanking the justice department for getting involved. but parent, like amy, who are attending a summit hosted by the family research council says they have no plans to stay quiet. >> we have everything riding against what is happening in our schools and it makes even more people want to speak out. >> parents here at the summit say of course they don't want to see anyone get hurt, but they worry the government is simply going to be bullying people into
silence. as for the justice department, bret, it says it stands behind directive and hopes to have few ideas in a few weeks how it can best protect school board officials. >> bret: mark meredith in virginia. thanks. the pentagon also getting into the act of trying to monitor what its employees or personnel communicate. military leader are announcing what they call continuous vetting to try to detect extremists. national security correspondent jennifer griffin tells us what that entails. >> the head of counterintelligence at the pentagon says defense department employees' social media will soon be monitored as part of the new security measures. >> this includes replacing periodic reinvestigations every five to 10 years with a continuous vetting program. ensure ago trusted workforce in realtime it through automated records checks and inner agency information sharing. >> top brass want alert to flag records, arrests or activities of concerned to be more
automated giving recent examples of information that would have been mess missed by the old security clearance renewal process including a recent case. >> this alert identified that the subject was under active investigation by another government agency for potential terrorism activities. >> the pentagon has sought ways to vet employees for extremism for years. though it has never defined the term. an executive order in 2011 called for changes in the way the defense department monitors its employees to eliminate the insider threat after the fort hood shooting and the wikileaks breach that occurred when then army private first class chelsea manning released reams of top secret files. efforts to screen service members became more pressing after the january 6th attack on the capital. >> we are focused on extremist behavior. not what people think or what political ideas or religious ideas. >> so do you have a definition of what extremism is. >> again, we are focused on
behavior. >> u.s. military's top general thinks the number of so-called extremists in the ranks is quite small. >> we have a very large force. and 99.99% of these folks are out there every single day trying to serve the country with honor and dignity. >> 12% of those charged in the january 6th riot at the u.s. capitol had military experience. one was an active duty marine corps officer. the pentagon's counterintelligence security chief said they still haven't figured out how to distinguish high hyperbolic talk on social media from real threats. bret? >> bret: jennifer griffin at the pentagon. jennifer, thank you. the number of americans applying for unemployment benefits fell last week. the labor department says initial jobless claims were down by 38,000 to 326,000. that's the first drop in four weeks. stocks were up today. the dow gained 33, the s&p 500 finished ahead 36. the nasdaq jumped 152. up next, a look at one way
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thank you all for watching all of this time. there are a lot of people in front of and more importantly behind the camera who made this place work. throughout the hour we will bring you some more moments. here is "special report" over the years. new york democratic governor kathy hochul has a theory about vaccine hesitancy. hochul is tying it to fear of crime. >> i heard some people say
they're afraid to go get vaccines because they don't get on a subway and they're afraid of being assaulted in this very city. >> that raised eyebrows. the father meantime of federal fugitive brian laundrie has joined the search for his missing son. christopher laundrie arrived this morning at a park adjacent to the wilderness area where the police have been looking for the suspect. brian laundrie is considered a person of interest in the death of former girlfriend gabby petino. the woman's family, the petino family has a message for laundrie. >> turn yourself in. just go to the local police department or wherever you are whatever the circumstances are. what happened, just do the right thing. too the right thing for yourself. do the right thing for gabby, for our family and for your own family. >> we deserve the truth. >> bret: lawyer for the laundrie family says authorities had requested the father's assistance but north port police say they made no such outreach.
we have new images tonight illustrate how illegal immigrants are crossing the southern border to get into the u.s. and how authorities are trying to stop them there. correspondent bill melugin shows us tonight from roam marks texas. -- roma, texas. >> illegal immigrant on a train fleas near texas. >> got one running. >> scenes like this becoming more and more common as the border crisis continues. the migrants use the train in an attempt to get further into the united states. but, texas dps has positioned members of its special operations group along the way and using atvs they will chase the runners down and make arrests. one recent dps arrest at the trains included this member of the latin kings. one of the most violent street gangs in the world. in rio grande city wednesday night, we embedded with the texas dps trooper as he hunted for illegal immigrant runners
hiding in the brush. >> these are the migrants who do not want to be caught and do not turn themselves in. in yuma, arizona, border patrol says they arrested this child rapist after he crossed illegally. he had previous felony convictions for first degree child rape and incest. also in yuma, journalists julio rosa encountered three men from uzbekistan who had just crossed into the u.s. illegally and they showed him their uzbek passports. in his exclusive interview on "special report," former u.s. border patrol chief rodney scott said immigrants from over 150 countries have crossed illegally at our southern border and there are more than 400,000 known got-aways so far this year who were never caught. >> who is in that 400,000? i can't tell you but i can tell you statistically it always includes rapists, murderers, potential terrorists, every single year if you look at cpb
statistics. those exist who we actually catch. think there is not just as bad or worse those getting away would be naive. >> and, bret, tomorrow u.s. secretary of state antony blinken, dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas and merrick garland will all be traveling to mexico together to hold some high level security talks between the u.s. government and the mexican government. as for the state of texas today, governor abbott sent a letter to president biden officially requesting an appeal of fema's decision to not declare a federal disaster down here at the border. it's something that governor abbott had requested and it was rejected. we will send it back to you. >> bret: bill melugin on the border in texas tonight. thanks. increasing tensions between the u.s. and china over taiwan. first, beyond our borders tonight. the death toll rises in southwest pakistan following an early morning earthquake. at least 23 people are dead. the 5.9 magnitude quake collapsed a coal mine with workers inside and flattened dozens of homes, injuring at
least 200 people. search and rescue teams have arrived in the mountains to help. german chancellor angela merkel's farewell tour stops at the vatican for a meeting with pope francis. she tells reporters they discuss politics, climate change and clergy sex abuse. america is retiring after 16 years as chancellor. just some of the other stories beyond our borders tonight. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ my name is dana perino, and i have been at fox news since april of 2009. my path at fox news wept through 1600 pennsylvania avenue. i never thought that i would necessarily end up at fox news. i just knew i wanted to be there. >> and then all of the sudden out of a blue i get a call asking if i wanted to do this temporary show for five weeks called "the five." >> hello, everyone. it's five:00 on east coast. >> dana: i thought oh my gosh go live in new york for five weeks
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♪ >> bret: there is word president biden and chinese leader xi jinping will hold a virtual meeting before the end of the year. it comes after six hours of talks yesterday in zuckerberg zurich.>> new tensions between . and china over the island nation of taiwan. >> we are in a dangerous, dress inflection point in the history of our presence. >> the "wall street journal" reporting at least a year dozen of special for the operators backed by marines have been on the island training ground forces there especially regarding coastal activity. the pentagon had no comment except that it forces are aimed at secures peace, security and stability in the indo-pacific. it comes following the flight of some 150 chinese military aircraft nearby taiwan in recent days which prompted defense
minute story say relations between china and taiwan are the worst in 40 years. and that an invasion by china of taiwan could be possible in as little as four years. washington is telling china to stand down. >> this activity is destabilizing. it risks miscalculations. it undermines regional peace and stability. >> for its part, china says the u.s. is the provocative one. u.s. navy ships in recent days conducting large scale exercises allies in the waters off china and taiwan. those seen as necessary to rein in and keep an eye on china as is a move reported by the "new york times" that the cia is starting a reorganization aimed at looking harder at beijing via china mission center. focus resources on analyzing the country's act activity. this as regional neighbors of china say they too need to speak up for increasing imperiled taiwan. >> it's more important than ever under such circumstances that democracy stand shoulder to
shoulder with you. >> but diplomacy is not dead. as was first reported yesterday president biden will be meeting with chinese president xi in a virtual summit by the end of the year. no time to lose. bret? >> bret: greg, thank you. congressional republicans are pushing for additional information tonight about when china learned of the coronavirus outbreak at one of its laboratories there are indications now china may have been aware of the situation much earlier than previously thought. as this investigation continues. state department correspondent rich edson has new details tonight. >> january 2020, the chinese government isolates the city of wuhan only weeks after revealing to the world that a deadly virus was spreading there. a new report says chinese authorities knew months before that covid was circulating. >> now, almost two years hence, it's fair to say the chinese government is not going to share any information. >> australian research firm
internet 2.0 said the chinese province that was the epicenter of the first covid-19 outbreak initiated a dramatic increase in buying pcr tests. the type of kit americans now use to test for the coronavirus in 2019. suggesting that, quote: the virus was highly likely to be spreading virulently in wuhan, china, as early as the summer of 2019 and defendantsly by the early autumn. the world health organization is assembling another team to try to determine whether this virus escaped from a lab in wuhan or developed naturally. though there are significant challenges. >> i wish the chinese would come clean and reveal their lab records and hospital records of people who got sick in november 2019. >> the white house initiated a review from the intelligence community to figure out whether the pandemic developed naturally or leaked from a chinese lab. that report was inconclusive. republicans on the house foreign affairs committee reported this summer that the evidence shows the pandemic began with a leak from the wuhan institute of
virology. and republicans on the house energy and commerce committee are asking whether the biden state department agrees with trump state officials claims about that lab. they wrote secretary of state antony blinken this week quote this is a very straightforward request and we would appreciate a direct answer on whether the state department continues to maintain that the wiv has collaborated on secret projects with china's military. a spokesperson says the state department refuses to comment on congressional correspondence that the administration will work with the world health organization on its investigation and claims the u.s. will keep chinese government for access. bret? >> bret: ich edson. thank you. a house committee heard election on maricopa county, arizona. organizers said session to examine how audits undermine public confidence and i couldn't know mine democracy. last month a public review of the maricopa found that joe
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by $480 billion not chump change. meantime democrats are looking at the polls. the latest quinnipiac poll trusted poll out the job approval rating president significantly 38% approve. if you look at the handling of specific issues, approve, disprove, you see coronavirus, the economy really taking under water. taxes. and foreign policy but the biggest, perhaps is the issue of immigration and border security. immigration issues. you can see this. 25%, 23% approval. this is, again, democrats, independents, and republicans. so, with that let's bring in our panel amy walter. guy benson political editor of a guy hall.com host of the guy benson show on fox news radio. and jonah goldberg editor and chief of the dispatch. amy scare politicians.
>> absolutely. the history is midterm election. especially recent history. any president who has an approval rating that is under 50% and for the last four midterms every single president has been under 50% means they lose seats: in some cases oa lot of seats. by the election, of course, i think the bigger challenge right now for the president and his party. there has been a lot of issues, covid, afghanistan, the border. overall, you know, when the president ran as candidate, his message was i'm going to bring sort of normal back. life is going to feel normal in whatever way you thought normal meant. i think for so many people, certainly voters that i talk to, they are still waiting for normal to come. and whether that's on the economy. whether that's the end of covid.
whether that's the end dysfunctional politics. haven't seen it. >> bret: guy, that's a good point. it feels a little chaotic especially on capitol hill behind me, this deal is not done on the debt ceiling as amy mentioned you have afghanistan, the situation on the border, inflation people care about. crime in cities. there is a lot of stuff here that is all packed in to these numbers. >> that's exactly right. we're talking about this one poll it series that has actually favored democrats pretty significantfully recent years. so, i would say that's extra eye-opening here. but it would be one thing if it were just a lone wolf, right? or an outlier poll. unfortunately, from the president's perspective, it's actually in line with a lot of the other data. this is really a trend. morning consult had a poll with the president now bouncing up into majority disapproval. gallup had new numbers out this week with republicans surging into significant leads on questions like national security and economic prosperity.
so you look at the polling data across the border. and it is pretty brutal for the president at the moment and i would imagine that his party has to be pretty anxious, especially speaker pelosi with that razor thin majority in the house of chuck schumer for that matter 50/50 senate. if the president is in this neighborhood a year from now. it could be a very ugly midterm election for the democratic party. >> bret: yeah, as amy points out we have a long time to go before that obviously there is a race in virginia that's very consequential. we will talk about that next panel. jonah, this democrat on democrat, political back and forth, bernie sanders, joe manchin, kyrsten sinema and progressives, that can't help in this whole situation. especially if the president is not steering them -- the boat. >> no, i think that's exactly right. you know, pick up on amy's point, i think that it's not delivering normalcy. the reason why he is not delivering normalcy because is he not showing that he has the
confidence to handle politics the political landscape as it is. that gets to the fact that he was elected to unify the country, to return normalcy and he picked an agenda that was wildly partisan. progressive, some significant financial terms more ambitious than the new deal or great society. with a congress that is the most divided in american history. and the idea that you can 50 senators bring in a new new deal was just lunacy. and i personally think he should have dropped mic when he got the bipartisan infrastructure deal through the senate with 19 republicans and called it a day say look, this is what i was elected to do. and i will see you at the midterms. but, instead, he has tried to push an agenda that's not popular with voters. that he can't even get through his own party. bernie sanders likes to say two senators can't hold up 48 senators. it's not two senators.
it's 52 senators because it's a 50/50 senate and two democrats closer to republicans on this issue. biden is incapable of reconcilable of all of this. >> bret: even though he ran as somebody who can bring all this together. a gormings night in washington. amy, there are storm clouds ahead as we push this if this deal gets done as expected to the debt ceiling in december. it all then september was going to be horrible. as far as legislating go. now december and they're all pushing up against, you know, getting home for the holidays. >> and the government funding also runs out in early december. so you have debt ceiling, government funding, and then trying to get this legislation passed. the congress does love a really difficult deadline or they do like the pressure of a deadline to get things done. maybe we can think of b. it the way that a high school student pro-crass continue united states and waits to the last minute to do their homework. not that i ever did anything
like that. but, december's traditionally been the times when a lot of this stuff gets done. remember, in 2017 that's when the tax bill voted by republicans made it through congress. right before christmas. you have had many deals to avert government shutdowns debt ceiling. >> bret: former speaker boehner said that negotiation doesn't start until it has. to say and they start smelling the jet fumes that they have to get home. speaking of jet fumes. air force 1 landing at andrews from the president's trip up to illinois. panel, stand by. up next, the politics of education, the virginia governor's race we just mentioned and the pentagon looking for extremists within its own ranks as we go to break, some "special report" moments with a pair of commanders in chief and one man who wanted to be one. ♪ ♪ >> bret: letting one of the big three automakers go to
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boards and speak with educators about their concerns. whether regarding coronavirus related measures, the teaching of critical race theory in schools. sexually explicit books in school or any other topic. we are back with the panel. guy, this is touching a nerve. and we just get a ton of response to this from parents across political spectrums. >> yeah, bret. and you have been now referencing in the previous segment leading into this one the gubernatorial race just across the river from here in virginia. this is a potent issue in that race. especially in northern virginia, the suburbs blue trending areas if not blue areas all together. i just had a republican candidate in that race glenn youngkin on the radio yesterday. and i brought up education before i could even ask him about this doj, fbi intervention, involving school board meetings, he proactively raised it. because he called it outrageous. he thinks that this is chilling speech, it's intimidating
people. it's trying to delegitimize legitimate concerns that parents. i think when you talk to youngkin himself or his campaign. they are very eager to attack on this issue. to be on offense on this issue, to litigate education broadly and between some comments from terry mcauliffe the democrat and now this particular controversy from the justice department, it's fueling the narrative that i think the youngkin people are really hoping will bring them to victory in a few weeks. >> bret: yeah, we should point out we have invited terry mcauliffe on this show numerous times. put up the polls. our latest poll has it about tied roughly if you look at the margin of error plus or minus three. amy, this is harr badger. in purple virginia it is a race to watch this issue is a big issue to watch. >> absolutely in the suburbs are clearly going to be a place that we want to watch not just
gubernatorial race but 2022 democrats made big gains during the trump era can they hold on to suburban gains when joe biden is in the white house and not donald trump. the interesting thing is that terry mcauliffe is very interested in nationalizing this race and quite frankly politics has become more nationalized. it's not as localized as it once was. the challenge for mcauliffe right now though is even though donald trump is very unpopular in the state of virginia and joe biden won by 10 points. joe biden is not that popular either if we go back to our previous discussion about job approval ratings. so, mcauliffe wants to nationalize the race at the same time he doesn't have the tail wind behind him that would be a popular sitting democratic president. >> bret: he is also saying publicly now that he is running in a rates that virginia does not particularly love joe biden.
in virginia, jonah, what about the substance of this policy and what it means. >> yeah, i'm a little nuanced i agree with everything guy and amy said. if you read the letter, he does say the right to free speech needs to be protected and all of that the real criticism to me is that local politicians and local officials get threatened all the time and rarely does the doj come down on the side of one group the way it is on the side of teachers. and a lot of feel like they have been jerked around by teachers for 18 months because of the pandemic. it makes nerves raw and at the same time you shouldn't threaten teachers. you shouldn't threaten violence to anybody. and everybody sort of needs to ratchet down. for me it's the selective attention to the doj is applying to one constituency when they wouldn't necessarily have done it for any other. >> bret: good point. panel, when we come back, tomorrow's headlines. ♪
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♪ ♪ >> bret: finally tonight, a look at tomorrow's headlines with the panel, jonah? in response to congressional subpoenas for the january 6th commission, steve bannon, who was not working for the president on january 6th, surprises court by invoking friendly podcaster privilege to defy subpoenas. >> bret: amy? >> a december to remember, democrats trying to bring christmas to president biden by delivering not just on the legislative agenda but ensuring that the government doesn't shut down, too. >> bret: all right, guy. lightning here? >> my headline is fox dominates in the ratings. it's an easy prediction to make and a happy one to make on this day the 25th anniversary of fox news channel. honored to be a part of the team dating back even into the intern
days. >> bret: nice. dave rankin "special report" only lighting director one of the most beloved crew members on this show getting married to match and kindness and generosity. congrats to them on 25 year anniversary. that's one place that makes this place great. it's basically been a family since day one. people care about people. hopefully that translates on air. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight and every night for the past 25 years. that's it for this "special report" fair balanced and still unafraid. i took five seconds of ben domenech's time on "fox news primetime" but i had to get that out. >> ben: i had to see that intern photo of guy. that's excellent. fantastic. thank you, bret. >> bret: you bet. >> ben: good evening and welcome to "fox news primetime." ♪ ♪ >> ben: something funny happened in the spring of 2020, while the world was teetering on the edge of collapse in the face of the oncoming pandemic a new nation briefly tried to constitute itself right here in the united states. you probably never heard of it.